What does Michael Robinson do for the Seahawks?
by James Brady on Sep 6, 2010 7:01 AM PDT
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PrintRegardless of what happens, there will be extremists on both sides of the Michael Robinson debate. There will be those that feel that the special teams unit will inherently suffer to a cataclysmic degree, and there are those who will say Robinson wasn't good at all and there are hundreds of players in the league who could do what he did, and probably better. It would be nice if we could find the middle ground as a whole, but it just won't happen, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that, we're all entitled to our opinions!
At the very least, we can take a look at Robinson and what he provides for our division rival Seahawks As is their newfound custom, they signed him as soon as the 49ers were done with him, and there's a few ways they can use him. As much as I hate to say it, I think Robinson is a very good fit there. One of his ex-fellow special teamers, Jeff Ulbrich, is now one of his coaches. Seattle is lacking a special teams captain and standout to Robinson's extent, and they also currently lack an actual fullback on their roster.
So he'll go in there and be in the rotation at fullback, which, for those of you who are quick to forget, he isn't bad at. He's not an ideal starting fullback for any team, but definitely someone who can make blocks in space, as he's been good at doing on special teams. He'll likely immediately become their core special teamer and perhaps be the captain on the unit.
My question is, whether or not you feel the 49ers will suffer on special teams, are you worried about him going to a divisional rival? Even if, only to a small extent. I don't think any of us will claim he'll push them over, making them suddenly a favorite to beat the 49ers, but I definitely feel it's a solid signing for them.
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No Offense to Michael Robinson
and I can certainly understand if he’s bitter about the Niners cutting him, but did he have to pick the Seahawks? I know the NFL is a business, but come M-Rob, how much revenge can you get on the 49ers twice a year? I hope Bowman blows him up on Seattle’s first KR, when Robinson foolishly tries to block Lil’ Willie.
In reality this signing isn’t terrible by the Seahawks, but I don’t see what opportunities Robinson will have other than on special teams. There’s too many RBs in Seattle, he won’t be getting many touches in the offense. Seattle is just looking for more inside information on the team that will steam roll them in Week 1. Even if the Seahawks know the 49ers gameplan, that doesn’t level the playing field. San Francisco is the much more talented team at this point.
I've only seen an unconfirmed tweet on it
From Brian McIntyre: http://twitter.com/brian_mcintyre/status/23087111279
Haven’t seen anything else yet, though in looking found out that the Seahawks O-Line coach quit on Saturday and Carroll hired his USC guy Pat Ruel. Looks to be a long season for that team and their fans.
Everyone knows Indy's plan
Knowing plan overrated. Having skilled players who perform – underrated.
Michael Robinson
Robinson is a gifted athlete who played option QB (mostly as a runner) at Penn State. The 49ers signed him for his athleticism and football intelligence, but never really figured out what to do with him except special teams. The Seahawks have the same problem to solve. If you want to start from scratch with a roster comparable to the 2005 49ers and real cap problems if the salary cap returns, he is a good pick-up, as he was for the 49ers 5 years ago. Maybe he will get a bit of time in a wildcat set? Perhaps as our talent base has increased we have outgrown him. I think we should all wish him luck at his new job and get on with our lives.
by seafood lover on Sep 6, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the quick background info, I’m quite aware of who Michael Robinson is. I suggest you let me have my morning period instead of being all mature and suggesting we wish him luck.
(just so you know, I’m just messin’ with ya, don’t take offense to this post. I’m still grieving.)
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
oops, what a time to forget a “u”! lmao!
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Morning "periods"
I recommend Peet’s coffee to help for those mornings, and particularly like their Indonesian-based Geruda Blend.
If you like conspiracy theory, try Robinson and Coach Singletary not being 100% on the same page about coaching philosophy, and “my way or the highway” being the operative rule here. Ditto Hill, Jacobs, et al.
by seafood lover on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Alright guys, you have helped me over come my morning period, even without the coffee.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. So your hoping he gets blown up Sunday? I hope he makes a couple special teams tackles and make the 49ers realize what a mistake it was cutting him.
And he isn’t bitter about it. He doesn’t sign with the team by looking at if they play us or not. He just picked the team he thought would be best for him.
just on the opening kick-off return for the Seahawks, I hope he tries blocking someone and gets wall-papered.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i like him at seatle for the entertainment value
I can scan the field on special teams and point at him in the 1/24th of a second and scream I knew we’d cut you!
The only thing that worries me,
is that he knows the playbook. He at least has an idea of our teams weak spots. Ours is DB’s, yes everybody knows that. But he knows that So n So will always bite on this move. This guy will jump this route so… The little things that the scouts might not even see. Could I be right?
"Moving Forward."
The Seahawks have picked up our fourth team
Pretty much any player that couldn’t make our third team went to our fourth team, otherwise known as the Seattle Seagulls. they behave just like seagulls too, they wait around for us to throw away any scaps and then they scurry to get there first. I take it as a sign that we have alot more talent on our team than they do.
by Pat Willie on Sep 6, 2010 7:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Normally I’m not on the side of calling teams play on words nicknames (other than the Lions the Leos), but in this case Seagulls is a great description of what the Seahawks have done in the offseason. Let’s put some alka-seltzer in the next player the 49ers cut, and watch Seattle’s stomach burst. OUCH.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay.
Ravens are scavenger birds too, and they’ve been picking up the “Seagulls” scraps (Hamilton, Redding, Wilson, Housh), so by this logic the Ravens must REALLY suck.
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair,
Ozzie pretty much raped John Schneider on the Wilson trade.
"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
We'll have to wait to see how he plays.
The same thing was said when Darrell Jackson got traded to the 49ers for only a 4th.
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
good point. what a terrible player D-Jax ended up being for the 49ers. The Seahawks definitely got the most out of him, and threw away the shriveled up sponge that was left over. Who did the Hawks take with that selection?
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Mansfield Wrotto
He was a backup until Okung went down, then it looked like he was going to start this Sunday if Okung didn’t come back in time, and then he got cut either today or yesterday (hard to keep track of all these moves).
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You forgot to equate that Ravens are smart birds
This looks more like they are stealing the some of the best the Seagulls have instead of merely taking it’s scraps.
By the way, who do you mean by Hamilton?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 6, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ravens are smart.
But so are seagulls. Maybe that’s the 49ers front office…
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
that's a funny video
I was once at a McDonald’s and I tossed a half of a double cheeseburger to a one-legged seagull (no joke, he only had one leg) and the darn thing swallowed it in one gulp! It was crazy!
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha
I would not have been impressed, but then I saw that he opened the bag. That’s pretty good.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 6, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That video got passed around at my work a few years ago.
Back then it was on some website with an accompanying story. Apparently he’s a regular, but the shop owner doesn’t do anything since the locals find it funny and will usually pay for the stolen goods.
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops,
I meant Ken Hamlin. Not Hamilton.
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Your logic is faulty
I think T.J. is a good pick up for the Ravens, and Redding was a free agent who hardly qualifies as “scraps.” Wilson is a pretty good DB who was aquired by trade, not scavenged off cuts and waivers. The Seahawks have been signing guys that we cut from our roster, they’re not trading for them or signing them as free agents. I didn’t get the T.J. cut. He’s a big agressive reciever who comes at a price, I guess the Seahawks aren’t willing to pay for the chance to win games this year. Everything I see them doing looks like they just don’t want to spend money. Building your team with waivered players is a good way to save money I guess. Why not get the best players cut, as in the Niners cuts.
Scraps is a relative term in this instance.
All of those are players that the Seahawks gave up willingly, they could have kept any of them if they wanted them.
And as far as which “scraps” the Seahawks have taken from the 49ers;
Jeff Ulbrich – Was brought in as an assistant to the special teams coach. I don’t really know anything about him, but I guess if 49er fans think he’s an idiot that will only hurt the Seahawks, then I guess you could be right, time will tell.
Scot McCloughan – He was successful in the Seahawks front office before he was ever a 49er. You guys came and took him away by giving him a promotion, and it didn’t work out. Now he’s back in the Seahawks front office working in the same position that he was good enough at before that you guys wanted to hire him away. For comparison, Mike Solari was a good O-line coach for the Chiefs so he was promotted to OC, but he failed big time and was fired. Are you guys stupid for making him your O-line coach?
Kentwan Balmer – he was traded for a 6th round pick which has little value, not a cut player.
Brandon Jones – Was most likely brought in based on what he did for the Titans, not the 49ers, but he didn’t make the final roster and cost us nothing.
Michael Robinson – Was signed, not claimed off waivers. Also out of 1392 49er fans polled, 73% seem to at least regard him as more than “scraps”.
So as far as I can tell, we only have 2 former 49er players on the active roster, and only 1 of whom is not well regarded by 49er fans. And lets not forget Seahawk fans could just as easily call Derek Walker, Will Tukuafu and Mike Solari old Seahawk “scraps” that the 49ers have picked up, but we don’t (could also throw in Michael Bennett whom you tried to get of waivers from us last year, but were beat by the Bucs).
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Good points.
It seems we get too caught up in the guys going to Seattle, Ulbrich, Robinson, Jones, etc., and forget about all the guys coming over.
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Balmer, Jones, Robinson, within 3 weeks
It’s as if the Seahawks are waiting outside the team HQ with a bus. These guys are all cuts. Balmer wasn’t going to play for us and he likely won’t play for the Seahawks. Mike Solari is well respected so you can’t say anything there. I won’t venture to judge the other guys because they weren’t included in my part of the conversation either. Have fun being a seahawks fan though. I do respect them even though my cutdowns may seem harsh. We all wonder what the heck Petie is up to up there. Hope you lose 11 games.
They are not all cuts.
Balmer was a trade, and John Clayton has reported that the Bengals offered a 7th round pick for him, but the Seahawks got him because they offered a 6th. So he was traded, and you cannot say he would have been cut if the Seahawks had not traded for him, because he would then have gone to the Bengals. And while he may not play, if he even serves as a backup for a year, that’s better value than you can expect out of the average 6th round pick, since the average 6th rounder has an average career span of less than 1 year in the NFL.
So we are down to two cut players, Robinson and Jones. Jones did not make the roster and he cost us nothing, so we have 1 single 49er player on our roster who was cut (the 49ers carried a cut Seahawk on defense last year, that doesn’t mean our defense was good or that yours was bad), and 1 who was traded for. That’s not a high number by any standard. In addition to the Ravens, look at the Lions. They currently have 7 former Seahawks on their roster. Which is why we affectionatly refer to them as the Sea Lions.
And yeah, 11 loses is not unrealistic. Even in my best case senario I’d expect no better than 8-8 (I’m predicting 6-10). Most of my hope for the year is pinned on the team getting better as all our young guys gain experience and the team starts getting the scheme down.
by Mind of no mind on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not good to have Seattle pick up our immediately cut players.
But, better to be us with too much talent than the Seahawks with not enough.
its a very good sign
that the team didnt scour the cuts around the league and pick up 2-3 guys…id rather be in a position where people are picking up our guys instead of the other way around
Michael Robinson
is one of those fan favorites that as the team gets better, no longer is the best use of a roster spot.
He’s a special teamer, a good one but still a special teamer. It’s not like they waved goodbye to Joe Montana. That spot can be used for someone who can contribute on special teams and another position.
Maybe
Seattle should change their name to Sloppy Seconds. It seems like as soon as we’re done with somebody they always swoop in.
Getting tired of reading articles based soely on Robinson.
How about an article based on a new 49er. Someone who I believe can do a better job at ST.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/06/10/Longshot-Brock-Makes-Most-of-Opportuniti/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=304979&feedID=5936
That’s right, lets welcome Tramaine Brock, and just let go of Michel Robinson. Some people are having a difficult time coping with Sing’s choice, like spending alot of time over at the Shehawks board telling them how lucky they are.
by ericalancanty on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Getting tired of reading about a divisional rival signing one of our pro bowl alternates?
Not to mention, this is the only post on Michael Robinson. We have plenty of other content on the front page for you to enjoy.
Also, we just had a post on Brock, enjoy.
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I don’t think many are upset with Sing’s choice, it just sucks seeing a fan favourite going to a divisional rival. And like Ninjames said, there’s a Brock post up now, so easy there big fella.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not very worried
I honestly believe that Dixon can do a really good job at ST. For three reason 1. he can block 2. he is fast 3. he is big so he can hold his own.
I'm not concerned because...
… The Seahawks are clearly the 49ers’ minor league team. lmao.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
I'm not concerned because
Michael Robinson is a 4th-down-only player. He was going to get zero carries for the season. Zero. Not one. Ever.
So really, this is a big piss-and-moan about nothing. The Seahawks get a guy that will make their special teams better, maybe. We’re really going up in arms about a special teams guy that can’t block, can’t catch and can’t run? Really?
Ohh, but he did (whatever completely irrelevant crap you can find) in college! Yeah, just like Reggie Bush was going to be LaDanian Tomlinson, and Giovanni Carmazzi was a quarterback of the future. Ohh, he has high football intelligence! Yeah, so does Alex Smith. I’m sure the MRob whiners are all in uniform agreement that Smith is the best possible QB on the team? heh…
The Seahawks got our fifth-best “running back” and like our seventeenth-best “receiver”. I’m so scared. The guy will get one TD all year, probably in the opener against us, and the whiners will go “SEE?! SEE?! SEE?!” and then forget about it like ten weeks later when Robinson has been mostly meaningless.
A fourth-down only player. And we’re doing main page polls.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
You're seriously hating on the fact that we have articles about this guy?
Seriously? We had a post about the practice squad, the roster cuts, the inactive squad, we had more on the 53-man roster, I do my Nuggets every single day. We can’t invent news. Robinson was a captain on this team and signed with a division rival, me opening discussion and getting poll information is so wrong?
Thanks for the input.
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have you ever heard of the term fan favourite? I for one liked M-Rob for his efforts during darker times, not just his special teams "ace"ness.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I can understand having an emotional attachment
To me, it’s like worrying that Rich Aurilia would be some major improvement for the Dodgers.
It’s sad to see a guy who’s been here for a while to get cut. It’s not a game-changer. It wasn’t even unexpected, when you consider our RB depth and MRob’s lack of versatility.
I just don’t understand how it became the biggest talking point of our preseason overnight.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not the biggest talking point of our preseason.
There is one article about him. Who else would we talk about? Would you honestly rather there be no posts up at all?
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Wow
Did he really just use “whiners”? I hate that insult as it has been directly attributed to our name by rival teams. Ie. Cowgirls, Seachickens, The Aints, The Cardinals(lol birds that just chirp are (descramble AYG).
It was referring to the act of whining, not a derogatory nickname.
Next time I’ll use “bitchers”.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds good to me
just stop doing so much of it yourself and then it could carry some weight when you throw it around.
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by seafood lover on Sep 6, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know if you noticed, but the MRob discussion kinda overtook a couple of recent threads. I’m talking more about the reaction from the fans. I’m sorry for making it seem like there shouldn’t be an article.
I guess what I’m trying to say is, the people who are worried about Robinson joining the Seahawks make as much sense to me as people going on and on about the Fred Lewis dumping. (Giants baseball)
Lewis was DECENT, not great, and most of the time not even really that good. But a bunch of people were furious when the Giants basically gave him to the Blue Jays for nothing. If that had been the D’Backs, Dodgers, Padres or Rockies, it would have undoubtedly been an even more vicious reaction. And over what? A guy who would barely ever play.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Lewis is having a pretty solid season for the Jays. OT I know, but he is. :P
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
But would he ever play on the Giants?
Would you start him over Andres Torres, Aubrey Huff, or Pat Burrell?
He’d be a guy who played an inning or two every third day.
Do we really need that?
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
:] Nice taking over the thread with something irrelevant to the 49ers.
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Wow, I said twice that I'm sorry for making it seem like the article was a bad idea
Pardon me for giving my opinion, I thought that’s what this site was made for.
My mistake, I guess.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all good, man.
The facepalm I just posted was just poking fun. That’s why I made a happy face. One love.
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lol, it was my fault. I’m just a dumb Nats fan. And yeah, I’d start Fred Lewis over Pat Burrell.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
And furthermore
It’s a valid comparison, so it’s not unrelated at all.
Michael Robinson was to the Niners as Fred Lewis was to the Giants. A decent talent, with some fan support, who was no longer needed.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Bro... just said, right above.
I was poking fun. Lighten up a little bit …
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I just don’t see why you’re taking offense to it. If people are talking about it, then it’s worth having a post on. If it took over recent threads, then it’s because people obviously were discussing it. He was the biggest guy cut for the 49ers. A team captain. That’s why he’s being discussed. I’m sorry that I can’t cater every post to you, but I do my best around here.
I just don’t see how a level-headed post (ie, this one, not taking any sides) with a poll with three pretty concise options that’s garnered many votes deserves to be face-palmed over.
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The facepalm was more in reaction to the people voting the first option, not the post itself
And I shouldn’t have made that last comment.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
All good.. just felt it was relevant.
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I don’t think anyone’s worried about what he’ll do for Seattle in terms of the Seahawks beating the 49ers. And I certainly don’t believe this has become the biggest talking point of the preseason. If that were the case, I would think this thread would have blown up with David Carr Press Conference-like comments.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it's not that big of a deal, but
why have 42% of the responses say they are worried that the Seahawks signed him, if no one is worried about what he’ll do for the Seahawks? What, are we worried he’ll turn them from Mediocre to Just Barely Above Mediocre?
I’m just failing to see how getting rid of Michael Robinson is a bad move, or why Seattle signing him is something worth worrying about at all.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Failing to see how a special teams captain is cut ...
… when the 49ers 2nd, 3rd and 4th best special team coverage players were also cut. It’s just subjective. Like I said above, I wish there was middle ground for most of us, but there just isn’t. This is why this post is up, for discussing this.
I could argue my point over and over but you won’t be convinced, and I won’t be convinced otherwise, either. It doesn’t have to degenerate to hostility or something of that nature. Not that you were hostile, but it’s generally the case.
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Wait.. wait... wait for it...
Stop crying!!!
OHHHHHHHH MAN I TOTALLY JUST BURNED YOU!
(lmao. You’re gonna kill me one of these days, aren’t you?)
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Nah, you're cool by me.
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I voted for the third option, just for the record. I’m not sure why 42% voted “yes”, I guess I should’ve looked at the poll results before saying “I don’t think fans are worried about the Seahawks beating the Niners because of M-Rob”. Still, despite the results, I don’t think they are worried that the Seahawks will beat the 49ers because of M-Rob. I think the voters just don’t like that Robinson went to the Seahawks of all places.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
OK...
Not sure what happened to you to make you so impertinent today but you really need to settle down. It seems as though the anti-Robinson posters seem to have some rather vitriolic attitudes towards the pro-Robinson posters ( couldn’t think of any other labels).
Seems as though they go out of their way to insult and demean rather argue and discuss. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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by Hoopers Judge on Sep 6, 2010 12:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay, I apologize.
First of all I’m not “anti-Robinson”.
Secondly, if you can present me an argument as to why I should worry about our fifth-best running back signing with a division rival that is, on paper, a whole lot worse than we are anyway, I’m all ears.
My arguments have been expressed. Robinson would have had no carries. He can’t catch. He would have only played on 4th down. He is going to a Seattle team that will have him playing behind Julius Jones. I’m not worried at all.
Should I worry? Or are the “pro-Robinson” people overreacting?
Also, if people are really “pro-Robinson” wouldn’t they be happy he’s going somewhere with a chance to be more than a special-teams-only player? I guess the argument is that there was some kind of untapped potential there, but I thought we’d see flashes of that by now.
Then again, I’m the guy who thinks Alex Smith will be a pro bowl QB this year, so WTF do I know. Oh, that’s right, I know he’s younger than Robinson, and that Robinson has hit that magical age where almost all RBs start to decline anyway.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Sep 6, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Julius Jones is no longer in Seattle
And really, I think some are overreacting to the poll, but if you read the question posed in the article,
My question is, whether or not you feel the 49ers will suffer on special teams, are you worried about him going to a divisional rival?
The question is whether people think special teams will suffer with the loss of key special teams players including Michael Robinson, the special teams’ captain.
And the pro-Robinson people are more about what he does on special teams, not as RB. It’s not about playing time for Robinson because he’s going to excel at ST, not carrying the ball.
Even if, only to a small extent. I don’t think any of us will claim he’ll push them over, making them suddenly a favorite to beat the 49ers, but I definitely feel it’s a solid signing for them.
No team should underrate special teams. Last year, the Jets lost to the Dolphins because Tedd Ginn scored two kickoff return TDs. Rex Ryan in the post game press conference talked about they outplayed the Dolphins on offense and defense, but the Dolphins beat them on special teams and won because of it. I don’t want to lose a game because of special teams.
However, I am going to be patient about my concern on ST because if the coaches think they can replace the talent on ST with other players, I am going to see what their replacements can do before I say that Singletary made a mistake releasing that may key special teams players.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 6, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Robinson
Let’s try to correct a few contemporary myths. He can catch out of the backfield; actually, he has pretty good hands. He just doesn’t make significant yardage running after the catch—-he is not elusive and does not have blinding speed. He is an excellent blocker; however, at 220-odd pounds he is 30 pounds lighter than the typical lead blocker who plays fullback, and can not effectively block 300-lb plus DLs. He has an excellent skill set for STs, and while it is too late now I wonder if he could have had a career as a strong safety in the NFL (think Michael Lewis).
by seafood lover on Sep 6, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ninja
Hey what did you think on those player templates at EA???
I liked them a lot, there were one or two disparities, mostly with Tramaine Brock.
I think Caulcrick needs a bit better acceleration as well, but other than that, they were good. I just don’t see Brown being added, personally.
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Donny is updating
I just saw on his Twitter he is updating roster moves. I think we should get him a message ASAP on these guys that are being added.
He’ll help them on special teams, which is fine, but whatever. I’m not too worried about it. Glad he found a home so quickly, and nice to see Seattle relegated to picking up our garbage/left overs!
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M-Rob will be missed as any versatile, tough minded team captain would be. His leadership was more vital when the Niners had less talent and needed to work hard to improve, a place where Seattle now finds themselves. It would still be important but as this roster has more talent and leadership than 2+ years ago, he can and will be replaced.
It is possible the Niners ST will see no drop off from what they would’ve been even with him here. We’ll never know since every poor KO return made or long return allowed will have someone screaming that it wouldn’t have happened if M-Rob were here. What’s more likely is that the ST unit will struggle some early in the season with so many new faces that don’t have M-Rob, Ulbrich, Hill or McKillop to turn to or bail them out with a saving tackle.
I won’t judge the ST on one game, much less the opener. A great game by our unit in Seattle could mean the Seahawks have an awful ST unit this season. A bad game could mean the new young guys struggle but will get better. Seems to me that Seattle will appreciate M-Rob more than we will miss him. I do wish he had signed elsewhere, but that’s football.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
M-Rob
My take on him is how long has he been playing for us??? The guy reached the pay dirt how many times in how many kickoffs? Ya I’m good with the drop. I’m more concerned about the guy selling out play calls about the niners. I think Jones would be great pickup if we could get him for nothing if he’s available.
VD is a good thing and nobody wants to catch Crabs this year
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