I Got a Golden Ticket!
No position is more important to the success of a football team than QB. Teams with a star QB always feel they have a shot to make a deep run into the playoffs. Meanwhile, a team with a mediocre or poor QB needs to be good in every other facet of the game to have any sort of shot at winning it all.
Over the last decade, 8 of the 10 QB's to lead their teams to the promised land were well known, even by the most casual fan. The list includes: The Manning Brothers, Roethlisberger (2), Breese, and Brady (3). Without using Google, can anyone guess the names of the 2 QB's who won a Super Bowl that aren't on the list? Even if you did know the answere, how many fans would like Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson, even in their prime, as their starting QBs?
Dilfer and Johnson were hardly household names when they won it all, but they both had something in common. The '01 Ravens and '03 Buccaneers had two of the best defenses in football, as well as great running games. That means Mark Sanchez, and dare I say it, Alex Smith, can both still dream of lifting up the Lumbardi Trophy.
But teams need a lot of players to have a dominant defense and running game. While only 1 player is needed for a great QB. Getting that franchise QB is a little like winning Wonka's golden ticket. In fact, coaches and GM's that already have that QB probably wake up every moring singing the song from the movie. OK, maybe they don't. But it sure makes their job a lot easier.
The problem is, teams that already have that QB aren't going to let him go. So there's really only 2 ways to get that "Golden Ticket". A team can pick up a Hall of Fame QB at the end of their career like the Redskins and Vikings have done. But that only seems to help those teams make a deep run into the playoffs, while not actually helping them to win the SB. So that leaves teams with their other option. They can find one in the draft.
After the jump, we'll look at the QB's taken in this years draft that have a chance of helping their teams win it all.
A total of 14 QB's were chosen in this years draft, which is 1 over the average of 13 taken every draft over the last decade. Of the 14, one will be the opening day starter, one will be the back-up, 8 made their teams as the 3rd string option, one made the practice squad, and 3 were cut. Of the 3 that were cut, Dan LeFevour was signed by the Bengals as their 3rd string option, replacing J.T. O'Sullivan who was cut. And to think we thought he could lead us back to the playoffs. Zac Robinson was picked up by the Seahwks and put on their practice squad, while Levi Brown is now looking for a job in the UFL. And how did Brown respond to the news he's now unemployed? He said through his twitter account, "I've now officially gone from surprised to pissed." Way to make a good impression for a future team.
Some of the highly touted QB's like Colt McCoy, haven't exactly lived up to expectations. In fact their was a rumor that McCoy wouldn't make the final cut, although he ultimately did. But others look to be the real deal. So let's look at the top 5 rookie QB's who look to make the most impact for their future teams.
5) Franz Kafka Sorry, I mean Mike Kafka
Assuming he doesn't wake up one morning and find he's a giant beetle, Kafka may end up challenging Kevin Kolb for the starting QB role. Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg told reporters that Kafka has been "on fire" during practices and praised his quick decision making. That great practice hasn't exactly translated to great play in the preseason, but given the Eagles past success with getting the most from their QB's, Kafka, not Kolb, may end up being the Eagles QB of the future.
4) Jimmy Clausen or Tony Pike
I realize this is a little bit of a cop out to choose two, but it's not real clear which of the two is better. Clausen was drafted in the 2nd round, while Pike lasted until the 6th, but Clausen didn't exactly tear it up in the preseason. He finished with a 46.8 QB rating, while Pike finished slightly better witha 58.4 rating. Neither were great, but both showed flashes and I find it hard to believe the Panthers are in love with Matt Moore. Eventually one of them will step up and take over, probably before the start of next season. With the strength of the Panthers running game, if Clausen or Pike can avoid throwing multiple interceptions a game like Delhome, look for the Panthers to be a real threat to go deep in the playoffs once again. If I had to pick one, I'd go with Pike for no other reason than that's what my gut says. And I never argue with my gut.
3) Tim Tebow
You have to wonder what Kyle Orton will be thinking in his first home game. He's the starting QB in Denver once again, but when he plays in Mile High Stadium, or whatever they're calling it these days, he'll see lot's of fans wearing Tebow's 15, and very few in his own number 8. In fact, Tebow's 15 jersey is the number 1 selling NFL jersey of the year. So, how did he look in the preseason? He completed 64% of his passes for 344 yards, at an impressive 8.8 yards per attempt, with 2 TD's, 2 Int, and 1 rushing TD. In fact, I think it's a safe bet Tebow will be put into the game occasionally as a wildcat option. The only two questions remaining are, when will his occasional play become permanent play, and when will he take over for Brett Favre as the QB most likely for a member of the media to have a man crush on?
2) Max Hall
I can hear it already. Except for Smileyman and maybe Fooch, since he had to watch him beat up on his Rebels for the last 3 years, most people are asking themselves "Who?". Hall was a 3 years starter who put up great numbers at BYU, but since he doesn't have the size most NFL teams want in their QB, he went undrafted. Eventually he signed as an undrafted rookie with the Cardinals. Originally the Cardinals signed Hall to provide competition with their 5th round draft pick John Skelton, with the winner most likely being the one to stay with the team as their 3rd option. But Hall, and Skelton to a lesser extant, both really impressed the coaches. Coach Whisenhunt said Hall was, "the best of our four quarterbacks in camp." They wanted to keep both their rookies, but they weren't going to keep 4 QB's. So what was the answer? Cut Matt Leinart, of course. Now Hall is backing up Derek Anderson, and is hoping to one day replace Tony Romo as the best undrafted QB in the NFL. As for Leinart, don't feel too bad for him. He's already found a home as the Texans 3rd string QB. Let the come back begin!
1) Sam Bradford
This was a no-brainer. The number 1 overall pick in this years draft was the only rookie QB to be named as the starter for week one. And it's not just because of where he was drafted. He's clearly been the best QB for the Rams in the preseason. He completed 60% of his passes for 338 yards, 3 TD's, and 0 interceptions, with a 95.9 QB rating. It's not the first time a rookie QB was named the starter from day 1, but history has shown mixed results. Will he get beat up so badly it shakes his confidence so he ends up gone in a few years like David Carr, or will he overcome the hits and go on to greatness like Peyton Manning? I don't know about everyone else, but I'm really hoping he looks more like Carr, or maybe at least Ben Roethlisberger, since by the time the Rams finaly get a team around him, he will have already headed so far down the path of self destruction that the Rams, like the Steelers, won't even want him as one of their team Captains anymore.
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Ochocinco SB champion? I think you meant Brad
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that was just one of his names
He was Brad, then changed his name and took off the makeup and moved to WR and be a probowler. Then he again changed his name to Ochocinco stayed at WR and become mediocre again
by mcwagner on Sep 6, 2010 2:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hall and Bradford
will both be #1s in their career. Hall may be better too because he will get time to develop and not thrown to the wolves.
Bradford handled the wolves just fine
He got blitz after blitz sent at him and didn’t fluster at all.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I believe Bradford is going to have an injury riddled career.
He could either go the McNabb route with constant nicks and bruises or an Alex Smith route with more then 2 years on the IR. I’m thinking the latter.
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Credit to iaalexeeff
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Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Sep 6, 2010 3:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude looked sharp in pre-season
Baltimore and New England were blitzing him all night—he did a really good job of checking down and then throwing it away. Significant improvement from the first game where he got sacked 4 times
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
good teams make good QBs
You become a household name winning the SB. The Steelers once won it all in spite of the rapist and Eli was almost ran out of town. QB play is great and I understand and agree with the article but good TEAMS win the SB. Niners win SB and suddenly Alex is elite
by mcwagner on Sep 6, 2010 2:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
There is no guarantee that a great QB wins you the Super Bowl. Dan Marino…
The Vikings have an excellent defense and great RB, and couldn’t win with Favre, although they came close. I’d love to have a stud QB, but I wouldn’t trade away a quarter of our talent to get it.
I agree with that
But it makes it a lot easier to win with a great QB. And while I agree Eli is overrated, Roethlisberger, while he’s a complete tool, is an elite level QB IMO.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Didn't Rapistberger have like a 7 QB rating at that first SB?
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
The New and Improved Bay Area Connections:
Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Sep 6, 2010 3:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
22.6
But they still won, even if it was with help from the officials. But he had 3 great games that got them to the SB with QB rating’s of 148.7, 95.3, and 124.9, and then when he got back to the SB the second time he finished the game with a rating of 93.2. I agree the guy is an A-hole and that his off field actions are hurting the team. But as much as I dislike him, I’m willing to realize he’s put up some great numbers, including a 91.7 career QB rating.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
You'd never heard of Max Hall
Kidding me? You’ve never seen Silly Walks and Silly Faces? Wow. Wait til Max pulls some of these moves in the regular season to elude defenders – America will sit up and take notice then, you mark my words.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
It's amazing the things people found funny when TV was still in Black and White
Although I did laugh at Monty Python’s “Ministry of Silly Walks”.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I liked Hall before the draft, and I was expecting the Cardinals to draft him instead of Skelton.
I’d like to see what he can do against a 1st string defense if he gets a chance to play this year. It’d be nice to see a local kid (He is from Mesa, and he went to Mountain View High School which is close to where I live) succeed here too.
I don’t know about Kafka though, he was 25 of 59 for 274 yards, a TD, and 3 Picks in the Preseason against 3rd and 4th stringers. He may have looked good in practice, but if you can’t step up on the field. Kolb hasn’t been that great either though…
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
About Kafka
I agree he didn’t look that good in preseason, but I included him for two reasons. First, he’s entering a situation without an established QB so the doors wide open for him to take over if he can figure it all out. But the real reason I included him was because it gave me a chance to make an obscure literary reference.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
He was impressive in the Outback Bowl back in January
If Kolb winds up sucking, I think Vick is the one who will wind up playing though. Kafka could step it up in the regular season though…
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I agree Vick is next in line
But Vick isn’t signed past this season. That means Kafka could be the one putting pressure on Kolb next season.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Much like NFL scouts and draft experts, I have no idea which of these QBs will be best of the bunch one day. Obviously, Bradford has the best chance of helping his team win this season because he’s been handed the reigns to the Rams offense. Also, he’s looked rather stellar in the preseason. St. Louis may not have flashy weapons at WR, but guys like Danny Amendola and Laurent Robinson could get a lot of opportunities for targets with Donnie Avery on the shelf.
Max Hall is a BYU product, and we all know of a certain BYU product that made it big in the NFL. Thankfully, Hall isn’t a scrambling lefty that first signed with the USFL. I recently pulled a John Skelton Rookie Autograph from a Topps 2010 Jumbo pack, so for the sake of my future ebay auction, I hope Skelton does much much better.
Jim McMahon was a BYU product as well
people tend to forget that.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
McMahon also never threw for more than 2400 yards or 15 TDs in a season.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
sure, no one in the 80s put up ridiculous stats.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he's the best QB to ever play the game
not even saying he was great.
Just that he’s one of those BYU QBs that slide under the radar
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I’m definitely not trying to make a big deal of it, or knock BYU, but the reason McMahon gets overlooked is because he more like a Trent Dilfer than a Steve Young. Not that anyone is like Steve Young.
You are correct though, there are probably two people that know McMahon went to BYU, you and McMahon. ;)
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
and for the record, I’d take McMahon over Dilfer 100 times out of 90.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not true
His wife also knew McMahon went to BYU sense that’s where they met.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
bringing the total up to three, possibly, maybe Smileyman is McMahon’s wife.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think mrs smiley would like a word or two with you
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
McMahon still holds alot of the QB records in college.
He didnt put up stats in the NFL but the guy was a winner
I knew McMahon came from BYU
However I still don’t believe it. Steve McNair came across as more BYU than McMahon.
Not to mention that cool video
Who could ever forget “The Super Bowl Shuffle”?
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
OK, maybe a few people have
Here’s the Link I really love the part where our own Samurai Mike starts rapping. But I agree those Ray Bans on McMahon make all the difference.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Ignore the earlier link
I don’t know why, but I really struggle with this. Hopefully, this link works.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
That worked
And for those who don’t have the patience to wait, our beloved coach comes in at the 1:20 mark.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
It could be worse
At least he’s not doing some creepy pelvic thrust like back-up QB Steve Fuller is at the 3:10 mark.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
thank goodness teams don’t do silly things like this anymore. Between the Raiders, 49ers and Bears, there’s some steamy piles of 80s past in terms of absolutely horrible music. Oh wait, that was the entire 80s.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 7, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
rooting against you here.
i have Max Hall’s autograph from his sophomore season in college, so for the sake of my future ebay auction, i have to hope the worst for you.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
hmm, wonder who the team is eyeing up as its third QB?
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe they will just roll with two for now
by Rod Blogojevich on Sep 6, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Who are we going to add to fill the roster then?
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I hope it’s a QB to be honest, I’m not too comfortable knowing there’s Alex Smith, then David Carr, then nothing (well Jarrett Brown on the PS, but that would be total disaster). Not even M-Rob is around anymore for emergency QB duties. :(
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 6, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
ILB
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 6, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Team Photos
I just got a 49er tweet on the team photo! Wow that gotta suck for him!
Okay! Enough small talk let's get this division!
You know...
I don’t think you have to say “dare I say” regarding Alex Smith. I mean, even if he doesn’t improve very much, if that offensive line develops into a force and the defense becomes more consistent, this team can beat anyone at anytime. If Smith makes any major improvement, this team goes from dangerous to flat out scary.
And with that said, I also think Alex will not only have a career year, but raise some eyebrows while doing it. No, I’m not saying he’s the long-lost twin of Aaron Rodgers (although I bet they could pass as fraternal twins, haha), but I do think Smith is going to have a very good year.
Hell, even his performance from last year over a full season wouldn’t look too bad. (he played 10 1/2 games out of 16). That would equate to 27 TDs, 18 INTs, and over 3500 yards. I think the difference we’ll see in Smith this year is fewer interceptions, so to me it’s easy to picture a season with 25 or more touchdowns and 15 or fewer interceptions with over 3000 yards. That would easily put this team in the playoffs (and then some).
My point: A lot of people have concern over Smith (which is easy to understand), but my confidence in him is far higher than it has ever been. I consider QBs to be my specialty, and I think he will prove to be a good one this season. I think his ceiling is higher than people think (you don’t go #1, even in a down year, if you don’t have the skills). Urban Meyer very well could look like a genius after this season concludes.
Just thought I’d throw some “educated optimism” out there for my fellow Niner fans… lol
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Max Hall "Hate"
Try doing a Google search on Max Hall + Hate. Max Hall Hates Me. The feeling is mutual. The guys an idiot and a jerk.
He’s talented, don’t get me wrong, but I hope he gets broken in half.
There are other BYU QB’s that I would hold in higher regard:
Steve Young of course!
Jim McMahon cause the guy was a rebel!
Ty Detmer, played for the 9ers for a season a while back. He’s really a nice guy who “likes to hunt and fish!”
Brandon Doman was on the team earlier this decade, but I gotta hold the rival high school and rival college thing against him.
Max Hall, I and about 50,000 “Beer Ninjas” have a cold one to pour your mom again!
Make that keg!
Make that a keg to pour on your mom!
I know that’s a precious thing to waste, but that’s how deep it goes.
Funny that a Y-ner would bring up BUTTHURT...
How’s the closet treating you? Why don’t you come out already? I don’t have a problem with your lifestyle.
Still sore over getting “shafted” by the U and the 12-PAC?
Upset that we hit it and quit it and left you feeling alone and unloved?
Bitter that we’ve moved on to something better and aren’t going to “play with you” next year?
Take comfort coUgar fan. You are a son (or daughter, depending on whose turn it is) of God, and he still loves you. I’ll drink a caffeine free Diet Coke with you when you reconcile the difference between your religion and your sexual preference. Make like your college football team when the ydeclaried independance. Come on out.
Best Regards,
Your Ute Bro
Don't worry
BYU and Utah will still play with each other every year. As for the Pac-10, they chose Utah because all the schools they really wanted turned them down. If they were chosing solely on the strength of a schools sports programs, they would have chosen BYU and their 118 MWC championships over Utah and their 45 MWC championships. But they wanted their new member to also have a research department, which Utah does and BYU doesn’t. I guess BYU will just have to settle for playing with all those schools that turned the Pac-10 down when the Big XII expands again. But I will have a drink with you if you make it a scotch on the rocks or a glass of port.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Nothing to worry about
They will work something out, it’d be a shame if they didn’t, but I wouldn’t be upset if they never played again either. The whole “holier-than-thou” and “the Lord’s team” attitude from Y-ners turned me off years ago and caused me to turn to the Red side. The attitude and statements eerily echoed what Dallas Cowboy fans say. If you can stand to talk to a Cowboy fan, ask them why there was an opening in the old Texas stadium. If the rednecks answer doesn’t make you want to knock out their remaining teeth than you’re either not very religious or not very passionate about your NFL team.
“Many are called, but few are chosen.” If you understand the significance and source of that statement, then you know in your heart the real reason that the Zoobies didn’t get the invite. Which I agree is discriminatory, but it’s the truth. Settle for the Big XII? Yeah right! When Provo freezes over. If it ever did happen, have fun with all the bashers in the Bible belt where Y-ners will receive as warm a welcome as they’d get trying to stop a gay wedding.
I’d call you Elder urnext, but I think Elder “Jack” would be a better fit for you after the scotch/port comment. Whatever your drink of choice is that’s fine with me. If you attempt to drink it in LES during a game, than more power to you man.
Just remember that you are cheering for the RED team…on Sunday.
CTR = Choose The Red
Go Niners!
Elder Athiest would be better
Or maybe just agnostic. I go back and forth between the two. And since Provo freezes over quite a bit, you must feel pretty good about BYU’s chances of getting invited to the Big XII. Personally I like the idea of being an independant, so I won’t be too upset if it never happens.
As for the anoying BYU fans, I hear that a lot but I don’t get it. Then again, I’m a BYU fan so I never find myself arguing with one, but I do agree there’s a holier than thou attitude among some of them. But there’s a holie then thou attitude among a segment of all religions. But as long as we both love the 49ers, we can still be friends.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I think the Big 12 is a good fit for BYU too
i thought that would be where they ended up this year after all the shake ups, but maybe independent is the way to go. It sure works for Notre Dame.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I stopped reading
After ‘Breese’ and ‘Lumbardi’
Hopefully the rest was better.
Shit happens when you party naked

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