Are the 49ers better off with Troy Smith in place of Nate Davis?
by James Brady on Sep 7, 2010 7:01 AM PDT
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PrintYesterday, the 49ers released third string quarterback Nate Davis. They then went ahead and signed free agent quarterback Troy Smith to a one-year contract. It's a pretty straightforward trade-off, I think. The question is, are we better off after this trade? With Troy Smith under contract, are we better off than we were with Nate Davis under contract. It's a simple question, but answering it might be a little bit harder than it seems, and if anything, pretty circumstantial.
Troy Smith is a known commodity in the NFL. Sure, he can probably show more and get a little bit better than he is, and I see the 49ers system being well-suited for him, but it's not out of the question to say that he's reached his ceiling. I think we can say that where he is at now is far above that of Nate Davis, but is it high enough to surpass the potential of Davis?
I think that's where most people will be conflicted. "Well, sure, Smith is better now, but Davis ...," being the best example that comes to mind. But were Davis and his seemingly unlimited potential really going to go anywhere in the NFL? Did he have the drive and mental fortitude to make it in the NFL at its most demanding position in that regard? It's very possible that the coaching staff saw what they needed to and came to the conclusion that Davis would be more trouble than he was worth.
Maybe they just wanted to make an example of him, or maybe they just wanted an upgrade. It's really hard to tell at this point, but I wanted to see, definitively, how people feel about this and whether or not they feel the team is better or worse with the move.
As a side note, I'm tickled pink that our preseason news explodes with bits about our third string quarterback being cut, while our defending division champions and other rivals have so much going on that they're cutting a projected starting quarterback. Feels good, man.
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I haven't voted yet, as my mind isn't made up yet.
It is all so sudden. However, what I am excited about is the team taking seriously the QB position. Any 49ers QB, just like any player in any position, better be ready to perform. The way I read this is Davis wasn’t ready to step in, and wouldn’t be ready for a long time; so if AS fails or is injured, and DC follows suit, the third QB has to be ready to step in THIS SEASON. I don’t know if ND would “have been our future,” but there is a growing sense that “the future is now.” Go Niners!
lol we have to find that dude
This guy has to get his own topic of discussion. It is still funny to this day!
Okay! Enough small talk let's get this division!
Nate Davis was the only way we were gonna win the SuperBowl
so I’m going to become a Raiders fan now
Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter
Go
With logic like yours you’ll fit right in with the Traiders. And please don’t ever say you were a 49er fan. You actions spead volumes. You were never a fan you were a follower. Look at the big picture. Davis may have had a world of talent; but he evidently didn’t have the desire or work ethic.
by 49er faithful on Sep 7, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I detect that your sarcasm detectors are not working.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 7, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, guess not
Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter
He's new
He probably doesn’t know that Tre is the Comment Champ around here.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather be known as dedicated fan truth be told...
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
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Your sarcasm detector detector appears to be in full swing.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think they come with the basic package.
Gold card members only.
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by Hoopers Judge on Sep 7, 2010 12:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Uhhhh....
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Wow, you took that personally..
"Son, I'm going to break you like a wild horse." - Mike Singletary
I want to know about the cashew butter
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 7:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
baddum ching!
"Son, I'm going to break you like a wild horse." - Mike Singletary
I’m still holding out hope that Nate Davis still clears waivers and makes it to the practise squad. That way the team can find out just how hard Davis is willing to work now that he’s been through this adversity (I suppose that’s what we can call it). I seriously don’t see a lot of teams lining up for his services, but you never know.
And how was that cashew butter, by the way?
Not happening
I just don’t see it as he only brings value as a QB and apparently it wasn’t enough to make him stick. Troy will get all the reps with the scout team now and there won’t be any for Nate if he did get put on the PS. While yes we have another QB in Jarrett Brown but he is more of a conversion guy.
I liked Davis
However, I think the move was an upgrade now and in the future. I think the 9ers wanted some stability at the backup QB spot and Davis wasn’t doing that. Carr is meh at best at this point in his career and if A Smith goes down (or plays horrible) we need to have more options than Carr.
Leaning toward 'message'
And the message being, we’ll support you as a player, even if you are a project, if you give it all you got.
I'm satisfied
Was never sold on Davis anyway and thought that people bought into hype that should have never been there. Smith may not be any kind of answer for the future, but I’m content with him coming in and performing well in the backup role. I think he played pretty well in his time with Baltimore and he should respond pretty well to Sing’s approach. He’ll essentially get an audition this year to return in the future as a backup in the #2 role.
Also like to add...
That I prefer this and sticking J. Brown on the PS to see if we have anything there. I always thought Davis’ learning disability would present a problem for him, and I’d like a QB who can learn a new offense on the fly if necessary.
Troy Smith makes better cashew butter than Nate Davis
so he’s clearly an upgrade.
Troy seems like he's got a better future as a backup
but if Nate Davis could’ve realized his potential, he could’ve been a starter.
I voted that the team is actually better off, but that’s because I think Alex Smith will play his way into a longer-term contract this year.
What people forget about Troy Smith was that he was actually in line to be the starter in Baltimore two years ago—except that he got injured in the Preseason, which forced Flacco onto the field. This seems like choosing between “high floor and low ceiling” (T. Smith) and “low floor and high ceiling” (N. Davis).
I may hate your timing, but I can't hate your reason for leaving. Vaya con Dios, Glen Coffee.
I agree with pretty much all of this
I feel better about the chance that if Alex goes down, Troy could come in and do something. Hopefully, it is something productive, but he’s got a better chance of doing something productive over Davis. I have not felt good about the QB depth all off-season, so this is one step in the right direction.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 7, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Should have picked up JaMarcus Russell...
And become the only team in NFL history to carry three former #1 overall QBs on the roster!!!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Sep 7, 2010 8:18 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
better long term move
I think this move was more the niners acknowledging problems with the backup situation as a whole…and not just a knock against Nate Davis. I think it’s clear that David Carr isn’t going to be an effective # 2…and they basically came out and said that Nate wasn’t pushing D Carr enough to earn the backup spot on his own. Bringing in Troy Smith was a good move to improve the overall backup situation, at the expense of finding out how much upside Nate Davis has.
I actually think
that Carr would be an okay starter.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 7, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
In all seriousness
I’m ambivalent about the move. If we ever have to find out in a game situation how Davis/Smith would do; things have already gone terribly, terribly wrong.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Sep 7, 2010 8:23 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
bringing in Troy does have one plus...
if by any super slim chance…we didn’t have Alex and David under for us, he’d have a rapport with Ted Ginn; they were teammates @ Ohio State.
I'm not sure Nate was our future...
…but I am certain Troy Smith isn’t. Why didn’t they put Nate on the practice squad in the first place?
Because Troy Smith was released only recently
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a big deal...
Hopefully Smith stays healthy and no back ups will see the field, or we’re in serious trouble. I would have liked to see the Niners pickup Leinart for the playbook. He’s at least as good of a backup as Carr, if not better.
One guy who was not going to suit up for games this season...
….exchanged for another one who is not going to suit up for games this season.
Seems like a waste of fan energy on a non-issue. With five days to the season opener, what really matters is how confident and prepared the rookie starters are feeling, esp. Anthony Davis.
i respectfully disagree
what this move means to me is that we now have a team that can win its division and contend in the play-offs even if the #1 QB goes down. I didn’t feel confident of that before. Now I do.
I share your sentiment about feeling more confident with Smith (Troy) rather than Nate Davis ..
…but I seriously doubt he’s going to push Carr for the backup job this season.
at some point, I bet he does
Sing seemed semi-disappointed in Carr albeit much less disappointed than he was in Nate Davis…but still I bet he’s hoping the #2 QB position is better than it is right now and if Smith (Troy) offers that he’ll take the #2.
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
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Agree
Carr is not the backup the 49ers hoped he would be when they signed him. However, I think the 49ers wanted to find a backup that wouldn’t push Alex for the starting job and Carr is just that.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 7, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve wondered was it more disappoinment in Carr or in Davis for not pushing Carr. It seems that Sing wants everyone to prepare as though they will play and earn the spot of the man in front of them on the depth chart. He doesn’t want anyone getting complacent, either starters becoming entitled or backups becoming accepting of the circumstance.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
separate issues
Davis sealed his fate. Sing’s recent comments about “I could grow to be comfortable with David Carr [but right now the thought of him playing scares the daylights out of me]” said to me that he wasn’t satisfied just yet with the QB2 job. Yes, the bracketed portion is my interpretation, for anyone who says “he never said that!!”
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
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If Carr plays well he won't. But that would be a positive development anyways.
Troy is coming from the Ravens where they use a number system also. So while the play names are different the numbering system is a constant. He should be able to pickup the offense pretty quick. More like learning a different dialect than learning a new language.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If it come's down too ...
… T Smith having to play , think’n were F***k’d ….!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
Disagree
I think once Troy has the Playbook Carr will be the 3rd stringer
Hopefully
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Troy vs Davis
I think it comes down to which one is more NFL ready now and that would be Troy Smith because he has played in regular season NFL games. I like Nate Davis and if he ever commits himself he will be a valuable addition to any team, but, it will take more time and the 49ers are committed to winning NOW. So, they think they can go 3-deep at the QB position if necessary and still give themselves a chance to win with Troy Smith and his QB running style.
Smith's and Davis'es
Funny, we will take anyone named Smith or Davis, won’t we?
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
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I missed all this yesterday, and i gotta say im pretty suprised.
My impression is that maybe the 49ers coaching staff just felt like Davis wasnt taking full advantage of his opportunity. This coaching staff knows about project players, and players that take a few seasons to develop (A. Brooks, D. Goldson, etc) so it was suprising for me to hear they released Davis when hes got the kind of physical tools that hes got. THis had to be a problem with Davis that the coaching staff felt strongly about.
As for Troy Smith, he was supposed to be the opening game starter the season before Flacco was drafted, But he ended up getting hurt and missed his shot. Im cool with him being signed, the guys got good intangibles and obviously wants to play if he asked for his release in Baltimore. Troy’s pretty mobile isnt he? And didnt he win the Heisman at Ohio State??
I wouldn't interpret the projects like that
Don’t forget that last year was only Sing’s first full year at HC. Once he took over, he moved Brooks onto the roster, even though he didn’t get playing time. Last year, he moved guys into the starting lineup and divided playing time to those who he thought deserved it. Prior to that, it wasn’t his call.
I don’t think he has a problem with developing players, but I don’t think he’s willing to give out an abundance of time to prove yourself. It’s clearly evidenced in the fact that all of our draft picks, and some undrafted, made the team this year, and some veterans got the axe. I don’t think Sing is willing to wait longer than one year for his players to show they can do something.
by 9thevolution on Sep 7, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Dyslexia sucks, but so does laziness.
To me it just seems very simple with Singletary. He was a player that gave it his all every play, every practice, every offseason. He wants winners, as he once famously said. Nate didn’t have that motivation during the offseason and he was called out on it. If Nate had put the effort Singletary demanded, I bet he would have been more upset rather than partially agreeing with Sing. He even admitted to knowing about 3/4’s of the playbook! 3/4’s? Really? In almost two years? I know Dyslexia can be a problem, but hell I had dyslexia too and I still had to go to College and finish my degree! It’s about focusing, and if you can learn to do that, eventually with time things get easier. He simply didn’t put forth the effort that Alex Smith did in learning this offense. Some QB’s in the league feel entitled to certain things because of what they did in college. (See Leinhart). Hopefully this is a kick in the ass for Nate, and he can get his priorities straight and become the QB we all thought he would become.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
~Abraham Lincoln
(SUPPORT ALEX SMITH)
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Sep 7, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes the biggest problem with Davis is he's retarded
Not in the developmentally disabled way, which people can overcome with hard work. Just for example Leno reads a TelePrompTer and he’s dyslexic. But Davis is retarded in the dumbass, hood rich on a small salary, Look-at-me-ima-mothaf***ing-BOSS kinda way. That’s way worse.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 7, 2010 3:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
way way worse
It’s sad when naturally gifted athletes don’t put in the necessary work to get to the next level. I think he needed this to motivate him. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and you have to earn every second of playing time you get on this team. I hope that Crabtree doesn’t fall into this category too.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
~Abraham Lincoln
(SUPPORT ALEX SMITH)
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'd like Mike to play in the preseason if he's healthy
But if he’s the least bit nicked up to something like his neck it’s just dumb to risk him for nothing. That and he’s already semi arrived. I’ve never heard anything except how Crabtree has an extremely high work ethic. It’s why he was able to come off the street into the NFL with only 2 weeks of preparation. Crabtree’s leap into the elite will probably come next year if he can stay healthy all camp but he’ll officially arrive this year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 7, 2010 4:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Whoa there...
Singletary’s comments on Nate Davis this preseason have certainly been disappointing, but when exactly did he turn into JaMarcus Russell? Did I miss this?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a NOTHING move....
If Alex gets hurt, this team will go 6-10 regardless of who is the #2 or #3 quarterback.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
so basically
Alex is the whole team, or a massive part of it?
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
Nah
I think if Alex gets hurt we lose one game with Carr and Troy Smith becomes the starter.
I think the 49ers can make the playoffs with Troy Smith at QB.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
this
the QB will need to help us win a few games this year but not the majority of them
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
interesting
That although he hasn’t played one snap with the Niners, Troy instill more confidence in handling the backup duties than Carr ever will.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
~Abraham Lincoln
(SUPPORT ALEX SMITH)
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Sep 7, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow... really?
Gore, VD, Crabtree, Westbrook, Ginn… none of them will produce without Smith?
Huh?
Please be using sarcasm!! Nate Davis was never gonna be our guy anyway. I think Alex will be solid and healthy all year and if the unfortunate instance in which he does get hurt presents itself lets hope Troy has the playbook down cause Carr stinks.
Have fun.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL overhyped team.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
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Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Sep 7, 2010 12:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
now who's sarcasm meters are out of calibration?!?
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
Singletary said
that he’s going to try to get Davis on the practice squad if he clears waivers. Per KNBR.
Which would mean, if he does, that Jarrett Brown is gone. Let’s see if anyone claims him in the next 24 hours.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions
Probably not
With his learning disability and the fact that Sing ripped him publicly, teams are probably staying away.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking today
that they probably threw Davis in there against Oakland to show how un-ready he was, to him and to other teams. That way there wasn’t just some tape of him chucking it all over the place…but some “down to earth”…ok, a lot of “down to earth”
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
Hmm... Who to choose???
It’s a tough one..
Either a Heisman Trophy winning qb from Ohio State or a qb who had 5 turnovers in Mid-America Conference championship game from Ball State?
decisions, decisions lol
I want the guy that anahilated Pittsburgh in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 7, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Well..
Troy Smith had that great game against Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl winning 34-20..
Oh and guess who is main go-to guy was in that game..
Ted Ginn Jr. With 8 rec, 167 yds, and 1 td along with 2 car for 73 yds and 1td
240 total yards and 2 tds… pretty good..
I can see a connection :)
I went third choice
because it’s not much worth it to say if a team is better or worse based on where we stand at 3rd string QB.
in this case, it might be
because the implications are really about who will be the #2 QB as soon as mid-season this year…IMO
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
Nate Davis needs to grow up
and figure out this isn’t playground football anymore where a good arm will get you a win. It’s about running the offense, being in charge, and knowing what is going on at all times. It takes commitment, time, and dedication, which I have not seen from him. And no, he cannot use his kid as an excuse. That’s just plain wrong.
If he can learn this lesson, I would like to see him on the PS.
yep
well said
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
How would everyone feel if
tomorrow afternoon the Niners take him off waivers and put him on his practice squad?
Maybe Singletary wants a #3 who can actually run the team this year, no matter how he sees A. Smith and Carr, and N. Davis wasn’t that guy. So, realizing that Davis can’t do it this year he took this risk.
If the Niners do put him on the PS chances are there aren’t any other teams who would look at him as a mid-season replacement in case there’s a run on quarterbacks. That’s when the Jeff Garcias of the world get the phone calls, not the Nate Davises.
But then after this year the team can look at its stable of QBs. If A. Smith succeeds, they resign him. Or if he goes somewhere else then the Niners still have Troy, David and Nate for the future.
I see this as a logical risk for the Niners to take. Nate Davis has much more value to the Niners than any other team. I would be surprised if anyone takes a flyer on him, with the possible exception of the Seahawks, but even the Seahawks have bigger holes in their roster than who’s going to be their #3 QB.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions
Better off
I actually voted for the cashew butter because I’m more interested in that but I think the Niners are better off this way. I really liked Davis but I think this was more of a #2 QB move than anything with Davis. Sing isn’t sold on Carr and I think Troy Smith was brought in to push or replace Carr. It’s too bad that Smith hasn’t had a chance to prove himself in the NFL since he was drafted but I watched quite a few Buckeye games to know he has talent. I feel he can beat out Carr for the #2 and immediately be an upgrade whereas Davis was a work in progress and supposedly wasn’t putting in the effort to become that #2 or #1 for the future. I would like to see Davis clear waivers and go to the practice squad but won’t be overly disappointed if he doesn’t. My problem with Davis is if he did eventually become the #1 and the Niners got a new OC, they would be in trouble. Not worth the time.
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
Don't know why everyone is so hopeful that we retain Davis on the PS
I’ll take a mid round QB with upside next year over Davis, or even one of the 4-5 projected first rounders that might actually have a shot in this league. Regardless of what everyone says, the learning disability is an immediate cause for concern when you play QB in the NFL.
The LD doesn't help.
But it’s been remarked by people around him that his biggest problem is he’s just plain dumb and immature. Fixable… Sometimes.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree and disagree
I’ll agree with taking a mid round QB witrh upside over Davis but I would rather have Davis on the PS over Jarrett Brown. Next year is a different story, but this year Nate Davis > Jarrett Brown.
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
If Davis sticks on the PS this year....
you can kiss Brown goodbye. He won’t have any value to us next year if we keep Nate around this year. Personally, I’d fish through the QBs who got cut that have some talent and potential. I’d grab Crompton if he’s still available and put him on the PS. Brown is just an athletic guy who can fill various spots during practice drills. It’s the same thing Davis did last year.
doesn't sound like Davis is making it to the PS
waiver claims have been put in
The NFC West is sitting on a pedestal if only the 49ers don't trip and fall on their way to it.
Twitteraholic
Davis, simply because David Carr is our best downfield QB.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
by rlott#42 on Sep 7, 2010 1:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm think'n we should just flash forward to the game's ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
Love it!
But thats because I’m both an Ohio State fan and a Niners fan. Speaking as a Niners fan, I’m guessing that Nate Davis did, or didn’t do something that irked the front office and sparked the move. Speaking as a fan who watched every one of Troys games at OSU, the dude simply wins. (nevermind that championship game debacle) he’s got the arm strength, leadership skills and moxy to be a good starter in this league.
That's what she said.
by MTNA2RC on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I don't understand this signing, he has more in game experience than Davis of course, but he doesn't bring much ot the passing game.
9 in the box zone blitz scheme will neutralize all, here’s to Smith starting all 16.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
Not with Ted Ginn on the outside...
Two-step deep fade route would be a quick 70-yd touchdown (if he can evade the first chuck)
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
TROY SMITH!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Analysis
The Nate Davis fan club seems to be built around his strong arm (which is real) and his ability to make lemonade out of crushed lemons by improvisation (he showed this several times in his two preseasons). The anti-Nate group cites his apparent lack of motivation and his “not getting it”.
For perspective, JaMarcus Russell has an even stronger arm and a lack of motivation, as well as a demonstrated level of “not getting it”. Russell is not PS eligible, but could have been signed for the #3 QB slot. Coach Singletary has shown a high level of tolerance for giving second chances when earned. Why isn’t there a strong pro-JaMarcus contingent surfacing yet? There are too many initials here but does JMRIOF work?
don’t ever compare JM to davis. JM can’t hit an out route to save his job!
by whitemike1644 on Sep 7, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither can Davis . . .
But both can throw 60 yards through the air
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
About that lack of PS eligibility
I wonder if the 49ers could petition the NFL for eligibility for JaMarcus on the PS on grounds of FUI (football under the influence) not really counting as NFL roster experience? I would enjoy the debate between the Nate Davis (NDIOF) and the JMRIOF contingent (led by Tre9er and/or smileyman?) for whether that slot on the PS (as a DB, probably) should go to Nate or JaMarcus. Could it could help us pass those boring hours till Sunday, when real football will be played?
by seafood lover on Sep 7, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Coach Singletary has shown a high level of tolerance for giving second chances when earned.
It’s those two little words that cancel out that whole JMRIOF schtick.
Sobriety can be overrated
The repentant sinner often earns more points than the guy who was straight all of the time. Look at how steroid abuse has played out for major league baseball.
by seafood lover on Sep 7, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude , really J Russell where's the Banned button ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
Fail.
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
Wait…. isn’t crushed lemons exactly how you are supposed to make lemonade?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Uninspiring?
Two first round #1 picks and a Heisman trophy winner should inspire. Let’s see how all of these guys do with a good O-line in front of them, which will be a first for all three.
Nate Davis
Seemed to have the mechanics down, He must have been really doggin it aound the camp because he looked good from what I witnessed. No work ethic does buy you a one way ticket to USC 1st round WR Mike WilliamsVille…Oh yeah, he’s a Seahawk now. I can see Nate going there with the trader M-Rob.
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