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How is everyone doing?  It has been a while since I have written a FanPost so here is a quick update about me; I left my cussie desk job in DC and took a job supporting the military in Kuwait.  I am not looking forward to watching the football games this year because they are going to be at 0100 in the morning (and we can't drink here).  However I did get club seats to the 49ers game in London this year, so that is a plus.

With all the talk of Reggie Bush losing his Heisman I want to talk about role models for a bit.  This post is along the same lines as Fooch's Hall of Fame post which can be found here: http://www.ninersnation.com/2010/5/24/1484801/off-the-field-conduct-and-hall-of.  Two quick things: 1. This post will not be ‘preachie'; 2. I don't have children.  I am also not going to defend people who use performance enhancing drugs as I believe that is cheating.

Wikipedia says a role model is a ‘person who serves as an example, whose behaviour is emulated by others'.  We all had our role models that we looked up to while growing up; whether it was an athlete, a musician, an actor or a political figure.  Now with a new generation of individuals growing up are the current role models better or worse than the previous generations?  Let's look at some people.

Reggie Bush:  Arguably Bush is one of the best college running backs of all time.  His Heisman shows that he was the best college player that year; in fact at the time he had the 2nd most first place Heisman votes of all time, 2nd only to OJ Simpson.  However it has recently come to light that Bush accepted ‘lavish gifts' from agents to include a limo ride to the Heisman celebration and a house to live in while attending USC.  But does this make him less of a role model?  What does it teach people? Can't I take from this that if I try hard and I am the best at something that I will be rewarded for my efforts?

Bill Walsh:  This one hits close to home.  Walsh is the best football coach of all time (I don't care if you disagree with my article but you can't argue that point).  He had an eye for talent and took a 2-12 team to the super bowl in 2 years.  But everyone seems to over look the fact that he neglected his wife most of the time while coaching and in fact was having an affair with a journalist.  Also he insisted his son was dying of leukemia when it was really AIDS.  But do those things matter?  If your son said "Dad I want to be a football coach like Bill Walsh" would you be upset; what if he said "Dad I want to be a football coach like Mike Leach?"

Superheroes:  While fictional, we all looked up to superheroes while we were kids.  However Sharon Lamb, distinguished professor of mental health at University of Massachusetts-Boston says "Today's superhero is too much like an action hero who participates in non-stop violence; he's aggressive, sarcastic and rarely speaks to the virtue of doing good for humanity. When not in superhero costume, these men, like Iron Man, exploit women, flaunt bling and convey their manhood with high-powered guns."  She says about past comic book superheroes "comic book heroes of the past did fight criminals, she said, "but these were heroes boys could look up to and learn from because outside of their costumes, they were real people with real problems and many vulnerabilities.""  Am I to assume it is okay to say "I want to be like Iron Man" but it is not okay to say "I want to be like Tony Stark?"

Mark Zuckerberg: The youngest billionaire in the world, Mark Zuckerberg is someone we all strive to be like... right? The upcoming movie "The Social Network" apparently doesn't portray Zuckerberg in the best light.  The movie talks about how Zuckerberg "drank himself silly and had lots of sex with coeds."

Well I believe that is enough examples.  What I want to know is there a ratio of good to bad that an individual has to fall in to be considered a ‘role model.'  If someone is 70% good and 30% bad does that make them a role model; what about if someone is 60% good and 40% bad, how about 50/50?  If Reggie Bush becomes the best rusher of all time, we will care about what he did in college?  If your son says "I want to be a running back like OJ Simpson" will you be upset?  Can we forget about Ricky Williams' pot issues if he continues to perform like he has been?  Is Pete Rose a good role model for children?  What about Tiger Woods?

Poll
Who below do you think is the WORSE role model?
Tiger Woods
6 votes
Pete Rose
3 votes
Reggie Bush
1 votes
Tony Stark
0 votes
Ricky Williams
0 votes
OJ Simpson
29 votes
Someone who is equally good and bad. A 50/50.
1 votes

40 votes | Poll has closed

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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If you've seen Run Ricky Run

You’d know Ricky Williams wasn’t a bad guy at all. Really good and shows that he was just a troubled guy in a tough situation

by Ivang101 on Sep 8, 2010 12:31 AM PDT reply actions  

OJ Simpson

If a kid said I want to be a great running back like OJ Simpson, I don’t know if that’s the worst thing in the world. It’d be different if he just said, “I want to be like OJ when I grow up.” I don’t know if any kid will say they want to grow up to be a running back like OJ because of the negative connotations, but people can separate the good from the bad in many instances.

As far as percentages, your last answer option says 50/50, but who’s to say the people listed in your poll aren’t 50 % good and 50% bad. We can’t know that kind of stuff. It’s very subjective.

by David Fucillo on Sep 8, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I wanna see OJs brain

I bet you he’s suffering from CTE. Back in the day, OJ was a smart, savvy guy at SC. Now he’s dumb enough to somehow walk away clean from a double murder rap, (aside from civil penalties), and then still go and kidnap some dudes over memorabilia and to do it with absolutely no plan or any hope of getting away with it.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 8, 2010 3:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

It sounds hilarious when you say it like that
and then still go and kidnap some dudes over memorabilia and to do it with absolutely no plan or any hope of getting away with it.

LMAO

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Sep 8, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Role Model's , i guess it depend's on what your looking for ...

… If we keep in mind that everyone has a past , it’s the ability to learn and move forward is the key …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!

by Edggy on Sep 8, 2010 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think role models today are the same as they were in the past. Look at today’s youth and how much different things are for them. As a child growing up in the 80s and early 90s, a big part of my adolescence didn’t have the internet or the constant coverage of sports athletes and celebrities provided specifically for exposure. The kids growing up these days have the internet, and things like TMZ that are cramming celeb fauxs down everyones throat. It’s impossible to define role model anymore, and ultimately I think parents have to do a better job.

When I was a kid, guys like Tim Wallach (3B for the Montreal Expos) and Joe Montana were huge role models in my eyes. Here’s the thing, I only knew of them from watching sports on TV. I didn’t have the internet to fully research the players’ personal lives, nor did I have TMZ “reporters” showing footage of Wallach or Montana stumbling drunk out of a bar. I’m not saying either guy did those things, or didn’t, it just wasn’t brought to the public’s attention as much. The National Enquirer was the biggest resource for “gossip” and it was mostly full of stories that were untrue. I’m not saying the media didn’t have their favourite bad guys to expose, but it definitely didn’t try to go after everyone.

by Andrew Davidson on Sep 8, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Was Bill Walsh truly and unarguably the best football coach of all time?

I think all time is a long time, and we are mostly too young to remember Vince Lombardi (who took the Packers from last the first in 2 years and subsequently won several of the early super bowls). He had a great eye for talent and was a great motivator. Or Paul Brown, whose Cleveland Browns dominated the NFL prior to Lombardi, who he trained as an Assistant coach. Or George Halas, whose Chicago Bears were a power for half a century or so.

All three of these guys were good role models—-no scandals, good family values, deeply religious men. Perhaps the best modern counterpart is Mike Singletary. Time will tell if he is also a great coach.

by seafood lover on Sep 8, 2010 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree, it’s hard to annoint Walsh as the greatest coach of all-time. The coaching branches that extend out from the Walsh tree is impressive though, but best of all-time is up for debate. You also didn’t even mention Don Shula, another guy who should be in discussion for one of the greatest coaches ever. Chuck Noll too. There’s too many great coaches really, to say Walsh is hands down the greatest.

by Andrew Davidson on Sep 8, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops

“last to the first”

by seafood lover on Sep 8, 2010 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

And let's also add Tony Dungy to the modern list

Dungy is a good role model—-no scandals, good family values, deeply religious man and also a great coach.

by seafood lover on Sep 8, 2010 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

My thoughts

Role Models-
I really don’t think athletes, stars, or rich people should be used as role models. I believe a Role Model has to be someone who you know better than anyone else and someone who you have known for a long time in your life (like a father,mother,brother,etc)
Then again, not everyone has a father or a mother, so I don’t know….

As for those guys listed above: No love for Ben Rapistburger?
That guy is as bad as it gets.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Sep 8, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

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