The official unofficial 2011 QB list (Nate Davis was our future)

by asmithisaverage on Jan 11, 2011 12:48 PM PST

According to Barrows, here is the list of available QBs broken down via by acquisition vehicles identified by Trent Baalke on ProFootballTalk Live. Notably, Mike Florio wrongly identifies Troy Smith as "currently on the roster" but may have correctly identified Baalke's implication Troy Smith is done as a 49er. Barrows also broke the news Nate Davis has followed Kentwan Balmer and rejoined an organization with Scot McCloughan in the front office.

Draft:
1. Cam Newton, Auburn
2. Jake Locker, Washington
3. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
5. Christian Ponder, Florida State
6. Andy Dalton, TCU

Free agency (*restricted and unrestricted):
1. Matt Hasselbeck
2. Marc Bulger
3. Seneca Wallace
4. Matt Leinart ®
5. Bruce Gradkowski ®
6. Matt Moore ®
7. Troy Smith ®
8. ** Donovan McNabb
9. ** Vince Young
10. Alex Smith

Trade:
1. Kevin Kolb, Philadelphia
2. Kyle Orton, Denver
3. Carson Palmer, Cincinnati
4. Josh Johnson, Tampa Bay

* Labor uncertainty will affect their restricted/unrestricted FA status

** Potential candidates for release from their current team

The big questions now are:

Which rookie QB does Harbaugh believe he can best mold into a franchise QB and will said prospect be available in the late first/early second round for a trade
Is Carson Palmer, Kevin Kolb and/or Kyle Orton available for a 3rd round pick or will their acquisition be cost-prohibitive?
Will Mike Shanahan cut Donovan McNabb before training camp?
Is Josh Johnson available for a late round pick?
Can a NFC West veteran castaway (Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger) channel Kurt Warner circa 2005?

What do you all think?

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If Pat Devlin comes out, I want him!

"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful

by shahbazi3 on Jan 11, 2011 12:50 PM PST reply actions

isn’t Devlin a senior? he has to come out

by 49erEmpire on Jan 11, 2011 5:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Or Gabbert or Ponder, Ponder is going to be a real good quarterback if he can stay healthy, but that’s a big IF.

"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful

by shahbazi3 on Jan 11, 2011 12:50 PM PST reply actions

Of the available non-rookie QBs available for trade

Only Josh Johnson would seem to come at an asking price worth paying.

by asmithisaverage on Jan 11, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions

Good post and CONGRATULATIONS NATE DAVIS AND GOOD LUCK

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 11, 2011 2:39 PM PST reply actions

In the draft...

Andy Dalton or Pat Devlin in Round 2.

by Ougadas on Jan 11, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions

Devlin over Dalton in round 2, but both could possibly be available in the 3rd

In this order

1. Kyle Orton: Will require less of a bounty than the other QBs in the trade market
2. Kevin Kolb: Would be #1 if Philly’s asking price goes down.
3. Carson Palmer: Two bad seasons, but he still has the “it” factor. Give them a 3rd, get er done
4. Vince Young: Wouldn’t be that big of a risk. See if Harb can coach him up
5. Donovan McNabb: A stopgap 1-2 year answer at QB, until we groom one of the future

Draft
1. Jake Locker: Cannot be blamed for playing on a bad team. Has the “it” factor. #1 option
2. Blaine Gabbert: Okay runs a 1 read offense, so what. His game translates to the NFL
3. Ryan Mallett: No footwork, pocket presence, but does have the arm. 20’s but no higher
4. Cam Newton: Please No, Please No. But, if he falls out of the 1st, well maybe
5. Christian Ponder: Would be a nice steal in the 2nd round, has the tools

Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled

by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 11, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions

Personally I think anyone who doesn't consider Josh Johnson

Is willing to undercut our draft of a the franchise QB the early first/late second round. We’d have to trade up to assure we get someone like Locker so we need the 2nd and 3rd round picks as ammo. Otherwise, the expectation seems to be we draft a QB too early and/or trade back. Either way, we don’t get a top 2 CB which is what would be optimal at #7.

by asmithisaverage on Jan 11, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions

I agree.

Devlin over Dalton.. but I think either would be good fits for the WCO. Way better fits than any of the guys projected to be “better” than they are. Even if taking them in round 2 is a bit of a reach, I’d be willing to do that. Our 3rd isn’t high.. and that is where teams start taking QB’s they can sit for 3 years under a solid vet.

I’m not sold at all on Ponder.. he puts way too much air under his throws. That won’t work in the NFL.

I’m also not sold on any of the free agents or aging veterans. We’d have to give up at least a 3rd this year, and I think we’d better address needs in the draft with that pick.

Maybe wait and see if anyone gets cut so we don’t have to offer up draft picks if we just want a warm body to get killed behind our shoddy O-line for a couple years.

Jumping from a 1 read offense to the WCO is like jumping from addition to multivariable calculus. No on Gabbert.

Mallett tries to make every throw with his arm.. his footwork and mechanics in his throwing motion are horrible.. he’ll never be accurate. That’s why footwork and mechanics are important.. it’s not physically possible to throw accurately consistently when your body is not aligned into the throw.

Big no to Cam.. the first rule of any successful franchise is that your team leader must have zero character concerns. Any little red flag and you pass. You take chances with little red flags for other positions.. but never for the face of the franchise.

Locker’s true ability is somewhat of a question mark, but I like him more than any of the other 4 on your list.

Still.. for our offense I like both Devlin and Dalton more.

by Ougadas on Jan 12, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions

McNabb, Locker, Gabbert or Mallett

1) ~~Orton~~. He doesn’t win and he…can’t…move. I’d rather see Harbaugh suit up at 48.

2) ~~Kolb~~? What’s he ever done? Philly’s gonna demand a 1 or a high-2 for him. No way.

3) ~~Palmer~~. That would be awesome but…a 3rd for him is a pipe-dream and he’s most likely not on the block.

4) VY… He can play, but I’m throwing up in my mouth at the thought of him as a 49er… Not a Harbaugh guy.

5) McNabb? Yeah, maybe…

Draft
1) Locker? If Harbaugh likes him, I like him.

2) Gabbert? Same as above.

3) Mallett? Disagree. He CAN move around pretty well for a big guy, has good feet and mechanics (the bad rap comes from not stepping into throws v pressure ala Kerry Collins, Jim Everett, etc.), complete Bazooka, pretty accurate, decent touch, high GPA (surprising, low IQ rep seems to stem from his Texarkana accent), BIG QUESTION MARK ON MALLETT: Is he a complete doucher w/a drug problem? I’ve scoured the net on this topic; though nothing can be substantiated he seems to have quite a rep around the Fayettville campus. I imagine the pre-draft drama surrounding this dude will be EPIC…)

4) ~~Newton~~. Totally AGREE.

5) Ponder? No idea. Haven’t watched him play enough to comment.

by VelamirDARKO on Jan 18, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions

...more on Mallett

…watching a little more film on Mallett and I have to say: don’t buy into the “he can’t move” crap. It’s not true. He’s not fast or quick, but he’s athletic and pretty agile for someone 6-6 240. Throws well moving to his right, buys time in the pocket while keeping his head downfield, good feet, compact delivery for a guy w/a huge wingspan. Yeah, he does make a lot of backfoot throws in the face of pressure. A bad habit to be sure, but not unbreakable and very common for big guys w/strong arms.

The real mystery seems to be how big an a-hole is this guy? Fans of his paint him as a decent kid who’s just gotten into a little trouble like a lot of young people in college (like Nate Montana for example). Those w/an axe to grind imply a very bad guy w/ties to drugs (using & dealing) and mistreatment of girlfriends, etc. The common theme (such as from Albert Breer from NFL.com) seems to be “everything (all the bad stuff) will come out” pre-draft.

I’ve no idea. He’s got the talent and it sounds like he’s a bright kid (3.86 I saw somewhere; no idea if that’s accurate). But re character concerns, where there’s smoke as they say… I can’t see the 49ers drafting him at #7. They’d have to be in love w/his tools and 99.9% convinced of his character. I can’t see that being the case at this point.

by VelamirDARKO on Jan 18, 2011 7:12 PM PST up reply actions

I agree with your assessment completely

I have had so many arguments with people here about that. I have repeated the same thing as you, but people still don’t buy it. I think he has the look of a true pocket passer. Time will tell how he does in the NFL and his personality question marks, but overall, I believe he can be a great QB.

In Jed We Trust?

by jonesin25 on Jan 25, 2011 12:20 AM PST up reply actions

Trade for Brady

trade everyone and just start over with Brady at QB

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by DAD OF VLAD on Jan 11, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions

LOL

…finally. A realistic plan. =D

by VelamirDARKO on Jan 18, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions

no to any qb from the draft except locker. I hope he falls into the late 1st and we trade up for him. Dont use the 7 pick on him however.
free agency/bleh to all options
trade: kolb would be nice but not for what theyre asking

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by operation carrot on Jan 11, 2011 4:59 PM PST reply actions

How is Locker your only option?

He has possibly the worst accuracy of all the QB’s in the draft.

In Jed We Trust?

by jonesin25 on Jan 25, 2011 12:24 AM PST up reply actions

i’m waiting for the Senior Bowl to see if one of Locker, Dalton, Ponder, or Kaepernick can distance themselves from the rest but I really like Andy Dalton in the 3rd round if he’s still there, 2nd round would be a reach

by 49erEmpire on Jan 11, 2011 6:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions

I also wouldn’t mind getting Matt Hasselbeck just to stick it to the Seachickens, anyone think he’s got anything left? I know he looked great against the Saints but it was only one week

by 49erEmpire on Jan 11, 2011 6:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions

no

QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!

by crumpedup15 on Jan 11, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions

yes!

I may make an Unofficial “Official” Matt Hasselbeck FanPost tomorrow.

Is it draft day yet?

by See Jay on Jan 18, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions

FA QBS

Aren’t P Manning and M Vick FA QBs? They are long shots, but are FA QBs. Persoanlly, I think Vick is worth a maximum effort to get him here. The Eagles will want him, but thye haven’t signed him yet. If the 49ers, meaning Harbaugh and Ballke, can sell him, it’s possible. And if that happens and he stays healthy I can see the 49ers competing for the SuperBowl next year. Or we can wait 5 years for a rookie to mature… I also like Josh Johnson to come in with a familiarity to and from Harbaugh.

by Petillius on Jan 13, 2011 8:15 PM PST reply actions

P.Manning a "long shot"...?

(roflmfao) BWAHHHHHAAAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAA!!!!!!!!!

(let’s also trade Parys Harylson and a 7th rounder for DeMarcus Ware and the Cowboys 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks)

by VelamirDARKO on Jan 18, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions

Okay...sorry...that reads far too harsh. Not intending to be mean.

…just having some fun, but Peyton Manning? The city of Indianapolis would be BURNED TO THE GROUND if the Colts didn’t resign P.Manning…

by VelamirDARKO on Jan 18, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions

Not going to happen.

If Philly can’t come to terms with Vick they WILL franchise him. He has no reason to even consider leaving Philly, considering they will pay him handsomely, and he has them to thank for his great turnaround.

Manning is not available either, although I doubt that Indy will be forced to franchise him because I think he wants to stay in Indy where he’s he King of the Castle. The Colts have said they will make him the highest paid player in the league and I see no reason why he’d leave.

On Josh Johnson: Everyone assumes that he has mad game and that he will be able to just come in and know the offense already. Nevermind that he was a 5th round pick and hasn’t done crap in his few starts. Nevermind that he’s played for at least two other coaches post-Harbaugh (one in college and at least one in Tampa) with who-the-hell-knows-what offensive systems – who knows how much of Harbaugh’s system (further assuming it hasn’t changed much) he knows now. I don’t see any value in the guy, cuz he’s gonna take just as long to develop as a rookie is.

Is it draft day yet?

by See Jay on Jan 18, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions

Got off track...

That P.Manning thing threw me… Initially I just wanted to ask what the hell does “Nate Davis was our future” mean? When was having a dyslexic “Kung Fu Panda” clone as our QB ever…“the future”?

by VelamirDARKO on Jan 18, 2011 4:23 PM PST reply actions