Looking at Free Agent QBs

with a chance to start over.

gets us to the playoffs at least. . . .

And I don’t mean that literally. Just pointing out how much I do not want him.

My vote went to Kolb, but if we’re not willing to give up a 2nd for him (or anyone), I understand, but outside of him and Cam Newton, there isn’t anyone interesting enough to me.

I think McNabb is likely going to be the veteran guy brought in. After that, it’s likely that we bring in Vince Young and then Draft someone to groom for the future in a later round.

McNabb can help tutor Young much like he did with Vick, but also help to bring along the other young guy who would likely be our future QB. Vick excelled in one year under McNabb, so I don’t think Baalke is going to overlook that. Even if McNabb doesn’t play, he’d be an asset.

Young will be available for cheap, so why not take a flyer on him. If he starts acting like a fool, then cut him loose and go right to McNabb. It’s possible that he just needs a new situation with a little help around him to excel.

As for the QBOTF, we can now wait until the 3rd or 4th round. We still have all 10 picks left, so we can move our positioning, or just take a heap of young players to start reshaping the roster to fit our new needs. QB prospects will be Devlin, Dalton, McElroy, Cousins, Stanzi and so on.

The only other option I see is that Baalke/Harbaugh sees a young guy in the league that’s only depth but can still be taught and become a starter for cheap. These would mostly be mid-to-late round guys drafted last year or even the year before; Crompton, Pike, LeFeveur, Kafka.

He will serve as a good mentor to whoever the future QB will be. Look at what he’s done with Vick and Kolb, as both guys learned quite a bit underneath him. He can still play for another year or two, and serve as the bridge to the future.

VY should not even be considered. The guy can’t speak of a lick of English and is immature. The guy got offended by someone who did the upside-down Horns sign, by some guy at a stripclub. Nuff said!

Showed a lot of guts and put up some good numbers and it looks like the Bronco’s are sold on Tebow. Now we are going to draft a qb get McNabb he will understand his roll especially with the players we have on this list

Obviously a dream is Manning but he made the Colts n will get paid by the colts! Some are asking to much like Kolb.. Unless they do something where if he performs at a certain level to give them what they want then hey Im all for it.. Personally I think if our O-line improves no matter who the qb is we’ll be improved even if that means we bring back A.Smith which I wouldnt mind but highlt doubt it happens mainly because the fans woyld just not have it.. I think I’m one of the very few that thinks that wherever he goes hes gonna have more success!! But anyways I prefer Vick who knows they said Kolb was the future n I believe he can be w/them! Andy Reid did say that he believed Kolb was the future but that he was riding Vick because of how he was playing! Vick is said to gonna be Franchised and that may be the case but I personally dont see them expecting so much for Kolb because teams are gonna know as they do now that Kol wants out if hes the backup and will use that in the negotiating and if thats the case then sure Kolb is the guy!

for the lulz

If Kolb isn’t worth a 2nd rounder, than Orton shouldn’t be worth anything close to a 2nd rounder. If both teams want a 2nd round pick for there QB’s, then I’d rather have Kolb.

I think that Orton could be had for a 3rd rounder for teams that have a top 6 or 7 3rd round pick… and I’m ok with this I guess. Seems about right. I’d rather give up a 4th for him though.

If the Niners go after Johnson or Flynn I won’t be excited, but I won’t be mad… I trust Baalke and Harbaugh to determine if they will be caparble QB’s in the new system.

I feel this team still needs help on the O-Line and need to save the 2nd round pick to address that position.

The I’m on the Crack-Pipe League:

Peyton Manning – Unbelieveable that he’s even available. I have to believe this is merely technical because they are working on a contract extension now or the Colts are positive that Peyton will not seriously entertain outside offers. If Peyton is willing to listen, there will be 20+ teams that will bid for his services and there’s no way we can compete. (Oh, see the fanhouse link above that just appeared…)

Michael Vick – I just don’t see Philly letting him go or Vick wanting to come here when there will be plenty of other suitors that would pay more than us.

The H-E- Double- Hockey -Sticks -NO League:

Vince Young – Talented prima donna, but has serious psychological red flags. Also, he’s just not a very good passer!

David Carr – Uh uh. No way. Forget about it.

Kevin Kolb (for any combination of a first round pick) – Sorry, this guy just doesn’t look that great. I bump him out of this division if Philly is willing to part with him for a low 2nd or 3rd.

The Hopeful Division:

Kyle Orton – Worth a look if he’s a 3rd round pick with a move to a 2nd if he meets some basic performance standards.

Donovan McNabb – Worth a look if he passes a physical and acts serious about trying to compete here. At his best, he is accurate and doesn’t throw killer picks. If Harbaalke signs off on him as a stopgap veteran, I’m fine.

Carson Palmer – Definitely a good option if Cincy lets him go and he is more interested in us than the other weak QB team suitors. I’m sure his shoulder isn’t the same, but he still is an upper level QB and if he shakes the shoulder problem, he might end up a huge find (a la Garrison Hearst post knee surgery in 1997).

Josh Johnson – This is all “potential” because of his familiarity with Harbaugh, but if Harbaugh wants him, I’m all for it.

Matt Flynn – May be good and again, if Harbaugh sees him as the young Matt Hasselbeck that Holmgren found and traded for, I’m all for it.

The “Meh” Division

Trent Edwards-he showed some spark very early on with Buffalo. He could be good, but I am just not very excited about his potential.

Ryan Fitzpatrick – could be decent, but I see him as the sort of QB that would lose against the hard teams we face every year.

Bruce Gradkowski – See Fitzpatrick.

I am not seeing the answer in the names above (that they could realistically get). And without Luck in the draft, no rookie is ready. So why not Matt Moore? He played poorly in a couple games and got hurt this year, but that was behind the worst line in football. And there was that 49er game where he made the couple second half throws that beat them – the hallmark of a winning QB. Let’s not forget that in ‘09 he was one of the rising stars in the league and on all the fantasy top 20 QB lists for ’10.
As he is a free agent coming off an injury year, he could be had for less than David Carr money. So sign him, cut 3 of the 4 bums from last year’s roster and draft QBs in round 2 & 6 (got to get a Corner in R1). Going into camp you have two vets and two rookies for them to evaluate.

The niners have enough talent right now that if Harbaalke “fixes” the QB spot with a temporary veteran and a QBOTF learning on the bench, we could go to the playoffs on our current roster alone. That shows what a clusterbomb the “Singletary Effect” was on our team.

Ugh, just maddening.

jus bring back Tim Rattey & Ken Dorsey to back up Rattey that would be sick.

NcNabb is to Steve Deberg as ?? is to Joe Montana.

First, remove the guys who have NO CHANCE of leaving their present employer … Manning and Vick.

Next, remove the guy who would cost more (in draft choices) than he’s worth … Kolb.

Next, POSSIBLY remove the guy who might cost too much … Orton. I like Orton and would like him for the Niners, but IMO he is NOT worth a second-round draft choice. If you could get him for a third-rounder with the possibily or converting to a second- IF he plays lights out … that is, he meets some very high stat standards for his 2011 play; the obvious problem with this ploy is that Denver wants a 2011 pick and we couldn’t determine Orton’s playing level until after the season. The only realistic possibility is a 3 this year and an additional conditional pick in 2012. I would easily be OK with that but Denver would not.

Next, McNabb; he’s a 1-2 year so-so temporary solution. IF we could draft a decent QB in this year’s draft, this could work; school the rookie while McNabb fills in. There’s probably two thing wrong with this — I don’t see any QB draftees that will be worth their cost, and I hate fill-in situations. To be brutally honest, I would rather have Alex Smith back (given a decent coaching staff for the first time in his career) than to sign McNabb.

Which leaves us with Vince Young and Josh Johnson. For me, between these two it’s a no brainer … Josh Johnson for every reason that I can think of, mainly he’s a lot of things that Vince Young is not. Vince Young … I started reading about this guy when he was in high school … and have hated him at every step along the way. Does he have talent? Of course. But it’s everything else that comes with it … his belief that he is God’s gift to women and football, that he is entitled to be and do anything that he wants to without regard for consequences to others, that he has the maturity of maybe an 18-year-old. The guy is totally undependable … he will do what he wants when he wants to do it. Why in the world would we want to force our coaches, team members, other fans and ourselves to put up with that shit?

So, my conclusion is:
1. If you can get Denver to bite on a “reasonable” trade price for Orton, do it. Else, pass.
2. If you can’t get Orton, resight Smith. I don’t want to hear static … a least he’s a known quality and quantity; and, who knows, with decent coaching for the first time in his career, he might even be able to develop.
3. Trade for Josh Johnson, assuming a “reasonable” trade price, including a low-round 2012 pick as a sweetener if he reaches certain milestones. If you get BOTH Orton and Johnson, let them fight in camp (assuming we have one) to be the starter this year.
4. Take a flyer on a “prospect” in this year’s draft, tutor his for a couple of years, and hope he turns out better than Nate Davis.

showed he can still play bit against saints, would be a great mentor, knows the WO system and would probably be great with Jim Harbaugh. Then we draft a future QB in second round and maybe go after Vince Young as well.
Much rather have Hassel than McNabbs

..actually available as in “Peyton Manning? LOL LOL” are not any better the even Alex Smith. Some are worse then Troy, or even Carr.

I think this is the coach to fix alot of things we all need to give him time and he will have our qb of the future you wait and see I bet we bring in a vet and draft a rookie like dalton is who I like but its all about who harbaugh belives in

What about me?!

When I look at the other options I can’t find one thing any of the realistic choices do better than Trent Edwards. He has a great arm, he is young 27, he is tall 6’4 231, fast release, ect… He doesn’t have the numbers like any of the other realistic FA’s outside of what McNabb did 2+ years ago, but Edwards played for the bills. He is a bay area kid with the Stanford ties, he should know some form of the WCO. I can’t really find a reason that we wouldn’t go after him except his numbers haven’t reflected the talent as of yet in the small amount of starts. I think under Harbaugh’s eye he could become what his athletic talent says he should be. Oh and to top it off he would be cheap and easy to get, let me know if I am off my rocker and why

Sign either Young or Johnson. Draft Peterson from LSU and sign Nnamdi from Oakland and move either Clements or Spencer to FS. Use a 3-5-3 defense with Mays being the extra LB/DB. That would allow him to roam around and make plays. Draft a big NT or sign one. The Niners have the cap space and money to do all the above. And next year draft Kellen Moore.

the Skins do end up letting McNabb go, pick him up in a heartbeat. You’ve got a QB that is at least good, with a lot of experience and familiarity in playing WCO. Also you have an older vet that will be a great teacher for the rookie QB. If we end up getting him for free (or essentially free) then in the draft we can go CB in the first, QB in the second, and pick up some other need points in the rest and come out nicely set up going into next season. Especially with the coaching staff being set up now. Solari and Drevno will take our young OL and mature it, and Donatell will bring some solidity to the secondary.