Official NFL Draft Thread: 1/16/11 [UPDATED]
With Andrew Luck heading back to Stanford, the quarterback class for this 2011 NFL Draft is looking a bit on the skimpy side of things. There is no question that with him heading back for a junior year... and possibly even a senior year that the upcoming draft was shaken up a bit.
With the 49ers in desperate need of some attention at the quarterback position, it's a mystery as to which way they will head with it. However, if there is one thing that we saw while the 49ers new head coach was at Stanford is that he is one of the best at coaching young talent up to meet their potential.
In this new thread, I went ahead and took an in-depth look at NFL teams needs and plugged in who I thought they would pursue in the draft based on that. Of course you have to consider and factor in best player available for each team as well. Some teams may have two or three big time needs at a few different positions.
So with all of those factors, let's look at me new "unofficial" mock draft. The "official" mock will be the last one of the year I do. The draft order is not set in stone yet. so I have used another sites draft order for the selections for this post.
1st Pick Panthers - DT -- Nick Fairely -- Auburn -- 6'4", 300 LBS: Fairely played like an animal in last nights National Championship game. He is by far the most destructive force to offensive lines this year. The Panthers are basically starting from ground zero and there is no better place than to start than by building a dominant defensive line.
2nd Pick Broncos - 34OLB -- Robert Quinn -- UNC -- 6'5", 271 LBS: The Broncos could go three different ways with this selection, possibly four if they trade. But despite their need to build a better Dline, and to get younger at the cornerback position, they lack a pass rush in the worst kind of way. The other two positions of DL and CB are much deeper than the outside linebacker position. If they are smart, which is to be determined, this would be the best way to go. Linebacker D.J. Williams led the team with 6 sacks. There is definitely room to improve.
3rd Pick Bills - OL -- Derrek Sherrod -- 6'6", 310 LBS: The Bills could go several different ways with the pick here, but the smartest thing to do would be getting Ryan Fitzpatrick a bit more protection. They have some offensive weapons and if Fitz has enough time to get the ball to them... on top of beefing it up for the run game, then the Bills could be on their way to improving in a very tough division.
4rd Pick Bengals - WR -- A.J. Green -- Georgia -- 6'4", 205 LBS: With Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco potentially moving on, the Bengals will be running a skeleton crew at this position. Even if T.O. moves on, they still can afford to get better there. If Jonathon Joesph leaves, it is also possible that the Bengals target a defensive back with this pick.
5th Pick Cardinals - QB -- Ryan Mallett -- Arkansas -- 6'6", 240 LBS: Coach Whisenhunt seems to like the larger sized quarterbacks. Just a couple of years ago the Cards had one of the best pass-protecting lines in the NFL. Not too many pieces have changed. When Kurt Warner was with the team, he was not the most mobile of quarterbacks. Mallett falls in to the category of a non-mobile quarterback but has a rifle of an arm. All any quarterback has to do in Arizona is just get in the general area of Fitzgerald's hands and they should be good.
6th Pick Browns - ILB -- Greg Jones -- Michigan State -- 6'2", 241 LBS: Last year the Browns did very good at drafting some potential star talent for their secondary. I believe that it will be Mike Holmgren's desire to get better at the linebacker position this year. While they desperately need help in the department of receiving, they can get help in the second and third rounds... possibly even free agency. The ground game is already solid with Hillis running the rock. Jones would be a great addition to an evolving defense. Jones is already used to playing in cold weather, so he won't have to make too much adjustment in Cleveland.
7th Pick 49ers - CB -- Patrick Peterson -- LSU -- 6'1", 211 LBS: There is no question in my mind that the 49ers would jump at the opportunity to grab Peterson at number seven should he be there. There is an instant need for help in the 49ers secondary. If you watched even one game last year, you'd know this to be true. Peterson has all the tools to be one of the best in the league.
8th Pick Titans - OLB -- Von Miller -- Texas A&M -- 6'2", 245 LBS: The Titans were literally running dry at the linebacker position. The secondary was banged up all year due to the lack of competence there. Miller would fit very well in what the Titans do. It is very possible that they could go with a wide receiver here, or something to help the offense, but Miller is very good and fills a crucial need for Tennessee.
9th Pick Cowboys - CB -- Prince Amukamara -- Nebraska -- 6'1", 203 LBS: Let's face it, Terrance Newman is not exactly number one cornerback material. He serves as a very good and solid number two. Amukamara could possibly step up and meet the challenge of being a number one rated corner for the Cowboys. Their secondary could definitely use a face-lift.
10th Pick Redskins - SS -- DeAndre McDaniel -- Clemson -- 6'1", 210 LBS: With LaRon Landry on the other side, this pick here would give the Redskins one of the better safety tandems in the league. The Redskins got beat a bunch on big plays down the field and will need a ball hawk like McDaniel back there to keep the opposition honest.
11th Pick Texans - C -- Stefen Wisniewski -- Penn State -- 6'3", 305 LBS: The Texans ran flat at times on offense last year. They seemed to be stuck in 2nd gear in spurts last season. They need help big time on their interior line. A good center is the leader of the offensive line. It would be ill advised to go in any other direction for the Texans as they are much stronger in all other areas. This should be priority numero uno.
12th Pick Vikings - QB -- Cam Newton -- Auburn -- 6'6", 248 LBS: Brett Favre is gone, Adrian Peterson is still there, the defense is pretty solid minus possibly a safety... Cam Newton makes sense here. He is a duel threat and a beast at the goaline. With Peterson and Newton in at the same time in the redzone, it will be very hard to defend against. Newton has a big arm to get it down field to the big play receivers in Sidney Rice, Percy Harvin, and Bernard Berrian. There are endless possibilities on offense should the Vikings go with Newton.
13th Pick Lions - 43DE -- Da'Quan Bowers -- Clemson -- 6'4", 271 LBS: If Bowers is here, he could ultimately be a addition to help on that defensive line. He was the Nations leader with 15 sacks. If he could replicate what he has done in college in the pro's, the Lions will be stacked with one of the best defensive lines in the National Football League.
14th Pick Rams - WR -- Julio Jones -- Alabama -- 6'4", 210 LBS: Jones could be the missing link to an up and coming very talented football team. There are several receivers on the team now on the brink of breaking loose and emerging as threats to the opposition. With the addition of Jones, Bradford will have multiple options as he goes through his reads. Should they draft Jones here, this could be the makings of this decades next super tandem ala Manning/ Harrison, Montana/ Rice... well maybe not that good, but pretty good.
15th Pick Dolphins - 34DE -- Stephen Paea -- Oregon State -- 6'1", 315 LBS: The Dolphins lack a strong force in the middle of their defensive line. Although they may be looking for a quarterback, there really isn't many options. This is the safest pick for the Dolphins. They have their linebackers and they seem to have their secondary. Now it's time to focus on getting some push on that Dline.
16th Pick Jaguars - 43DE -- Adrian Clayborn -- Iowa -- 6'3", 285 LBS: The Jags lack any sort of force or outside rush from either defensive end. With Jack Del Rio, a defensive minded coach running the show, it seems appropriate that he would help out last years draft pick Alualu in drafting Clayborn. Clayborn has been a menace throughout his entire college career and should do just that as a pro as well.
17th Pick Patriots - 34DE -- Cameron Heyward -- Ohio State -- 6'5", 290 LBS: Big Daddy Wolfork is getting too old to do things by himself. He is going to need some help next year assuming he returns. Heyward has had a dominant college career. He could be an elite at his position. Specifically because Belichick is a master at coaching his guys up. Heyward just seems like a Belichick sort of guy and would be a good fit.
18th Pick Chargers - S -- Rahim Moore -- UCLA -- 6'1", 200 LBS: Moore has been one of the most talented players at his respective position. The Chargers are set at cornerback, but could use an upgrade on the back end of the secondary. He had 10 interceptions his sophomore year but only 1 pick this year. It was in large part to teams throwing away from him. Pro scouts, particularly the ones in the southern California have not forgot about the talent and presence that this kid brings each and every game. He finished the year with 77 tackles. It may be a bit of a reach considering the drop off in INT's, but it will be a pick well spent in an area that the Chargers need.
19th Pick Giants - RB -- Mark Ingram -- Alabama -- 5'10", 215 LBS: This could be the closest thing the NFC East has seen to an Emmitt Smith type player in a long time. This is one of those best player available meets a need type of situations should Ingram fall here. I imagine he will be one of the players invited to the green room during the draft, but he may be waiting there for while considering that most teams are now looking for running backs in later rounds nowadays.
20th Pick Bucs - WR -- Jonathan Baldwin -- Pittsburgh -- 6'5", 225 LBS: The Bucs lucked out in grabbing Mike WIlliams... he has been a pleasant surprise for them. However, they lack a solid second receiver. Of course there is always free agency, but when you are that young, it is wise to continue to try and get guys through the draft. The Bucs, and Josh Freeman would love to have a potentially great receiver like Blackmon.
21st Pick Chiefs - ILB -- Akeem Ayers -- UCLA -- 6'4", 255 LBS: Vrabel will not be around much longer. Ayers could start imediately and give the Chiefs the pass rusher they have lacked since the late great Derrick Thomas. Ayers is a guy who posses lightning fast speed for his position and a nice set of skills to get by would-be blockers. This would be an ideal selection should Ayers fall in to the Chiefs lap here.
22nd Pick Eagles - CB -- Brandon Harris -- Miami -- 5'11", 195 LBS: The Eagles got torched by Aaron Rodgers. One side of the field seemed to be secure and the other not as much. Harris would be a steal at the 22nd pick and the Eagles could certainly use it. Even though a lot of the blame was put on Michael Vick for the loss, the Eagles defense did give up 3 touchdowns in the air.
23rd Pick Colts - OT - DeMarcus Love -- Arkansas -- 6'5", 315 LBS: Love protected Ryan Mallett's hind parts all year long. He helped a not-so-mobile quarterback launch his draft stock a bunch higher than it should be. With that said, Love could wind up being the guy to protect Peyton Manning for the remainder of his career. This is more need than it is BPA, but it would work for the Colts who have done very well at drafting in recent history.
24th Pick Saints - 43DT - Marcell Dareus -- Alabama -- 6'3", 306 LBS: The biggest knock on Dareus, which is a big one, is that he had tendencies to take plays off throughout the year when he was in the game. Sean Payton is a big-time motivator. If he can't get this kid kick started, then nobody can. Dareus would be a nice replacement for the right defensive tackle Remi Ayodele who struggled quite a bit through the course of the season. He didn't manage many tackles, sacks, or just presence in general. Dareus would be an upgrade on downs when he decided to play.
25th Pick Seahawks - QB - Jake Locker -- Washington -- 6'3", 225 LBS: Locker will not start immediately but Pete Carroll knows all about Locker and could cultivate him in to a starter while he sits behind Hasselbeck for a year. Locker would be the next in line to keep that Brett Favre tree alive. Hasselbeck is oft injured, so Locker could see action here and there through the course of the season. Which in a sense would be good for him to get his feet wet like that and not be given too much too fast.
26th Pick Ravens - OLB - Ryan Kerrigan -- Perdue -- 6'4", 263 LBS: (Commentary coming later)
27th Pick Falcons - TE - D.J. Williams -- Arkansas -- 6'2", 250 LBS: (Commentary coming later)
28th Pick Patriots - WR - Torrey Smith -- Maryland -- 6'1", 205 LBS: (Commentary coming later)
...the rest will come as the playoffs progress and more teams are knocked out.
Don't forget to rec the post.
Note: Smileyman is working on a mock draft as well that will be coming soon...
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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They had decent picks last year didn't they?
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
My dream draft
I just remember the Texas kid
I wasn’t that impressed with his college highlights, he had a bad knee than unfortunately might have ended his career with a car accident in camp.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Sergio Kindle
He fractured his skull falling down the stairs
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 16, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Chad Jones
I’m pretty sure you’re referring to the safety from LSU who was drafted by the Giants I believe. He’s damn lucky to still have a leg. And it was a good pick by them, just sort of unfortunate
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
by Camraman926 on Jan 16, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
they need wide receiver
big time
boldin and houchie did not cut it.
I say they pick wr first and te second.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Draft
So, yeah, if Peterson fell to us that would be awesome! Or go pass rush if there’s a sure-fire monster sitting there and a shut down CB isn’t.
If Harbaugh wants to totally blow our mind he could pick Cam Newton here. I don’t want him too, unless he does . . . I trust he knows . . .
hell no we'll be taking a cornerback for sure in the first round..
AND Pat Devlin in the second round ..after that..couple more DTs and CBs and maybe a ILB and if possible, another WR to develop on.
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
He's there now
but I think the EW shrine game and people looking heavily at film will bring him up some. I agree that right now I’d mark him for 3rd but I’m not getting too chummy with my two pick just in case ;-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 17, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Is the East-West Shrine game next weekend?
I know the Senior Bowl is the week after next.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Jan. 22nd
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
This coming Saturday
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Is the East-West the guys not good enough to make the Senior Bowl
What is the difference?
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
EW allows Juniors Senior Bowl (hence the name) does not
the Senior Bowl is a bit more highly regarded but the EW should not be ignored. Then there is the game (Is it called Texas versus the Nation or something like that) that showcases some lesser knowns.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
My Dream Draft
Round 1: Peterson or Amukumara – The Niners need a DB like desperately. If the niners can pick up Joseph in FA then this secondary gets an Immediate boost.
Round 2: Either an OLB or QB : Jeremy Beal to me can be a great OLB but there is a pick later on that I will like at OLB. Ponder? Locker? Devlin ( Doubt he declares )
Round 3: Demarco Murray RB – Fast and good reciever.
Round 4: Casey Mathews – I would like him to play OLB guy is a Mathews so we know he has pass rush in him.
Round 5: DeAndre Jordan – 6’6 WR big target. We need one.
Round 6: Havalli from USC
Round 7: Not sure
MONTANA TO RICE!!!
Round 7: Trade for Johnson from TB
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Trade what?
Trade a 7th round for him? If he is of value to us I gather he’ll be of value to them and worth more than a late 7th rounder.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
They drafted him in the 4th and he's thrown 140 passes in 3 years
and Tampa has Josh Freeman.
Hard to think he’s got much value. The only real interesting thing is that Harbaugh coached him at San Diego.
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My thoughtful watermelon is easily mistook for an early American catapult.
also, if Shaun Hill is worth a 7th rounder, Josh Johnson is worth a 7th rounder
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I just personally doubt they let him go for a 7th.
He would be a targetted pick by us. Hill was let go to clear the field(wrongly yes but that was the most probable reason) so that was more of a “Hey you want him?” “Yeah we’ll give ya a 7th, sound good?” “Yeah” kinda deal. Versus a Joshy move which would be a Tampa saying “Yeah I know you want it baby..c’mon show me what you got” kind of move. LOL
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Why do people keep ignoring that we can't trade unless we have a CBA in place?
Unless you’re assuming that there will be one by April.
Official Survivor of 2011 Harbaughcalypse.
Assuming there will be one...
but also keeping an eye on the possibility of there not being one. The entire chances are unknown either way right now.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 17, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
Because I am assuming there will be one.
There’s too much money involved for a CBA not to happen.
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I can’t see Casey Mattews getting past the 2nd round. He’s a Belichick type draft pick and won’t slip by him.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
+1
Matthews won’t slip past the 3rd at the worst. I think he will do well at the combine and raise his stock. I would love for him to tank the combine and the 49ers get him in the 4th, but I don’t see it happening. Casey is a 3 year starter at Oregon, while big brother Clay only had 1 year of starting experience.
by ericalancanty on Jan 18, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
If we get DeAndre Jordan or whoever he is..i say we make a reach
and grab him in the 5th, with his size other teams will be sure to pick him up before us and lets not forget we have 2 4th round picks
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
Are you talking about Deandre Brown?
I like him but don’t believe he’s going in the 5th ..at least not at this point. More like 6-UDFA
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
DeAndre is Moss without the talent. He was benched for a lack of effort in his biggest stage, while two
Starters that played in front of him were out of the game. UDFA!!!!!
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
What do you think of the CB's in this draft?
Who would you draft and who would you not draft?
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Draftable:
Peterson
Harris
Smith
Burton
A. Williams
Chekwa
Rucker
Undraftable:
Amukamara
House
Brown
Dowling
Wright
Burney
Carmichael
Out of those top 14… that’s what I’d say. Too bad Minnifield is going back to Virginia. Really liked him as a prospect. Maybe next year. But I have a feeling his stock is going to be much higher after next season.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Question for ya Drew
why do you have Prince in the undraftable?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Spotty game
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
C'mon Drew
I don’t doubt you have your reasons, it would just be nice if you provided more than just that.
Yes, he got burned by Blackmon, but who didn’t this year. His front seven was more than solid all year, which could have been to his benefit.
But give us more than “Spotty game” You are the draft guy on the site. There are a lot of people that like Prince, give us constructive reasons why we should be weary.
by VigilanteSteve on Jan 17, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
No.
If you go back and look at that entire game, its going to be the closest thing to the Pro’s that he would have faced. Honestly, I think Blackmon will be good in the NFL, but he wont be a star. Now with that said, Amukamara before that, did not face too many WR’s of that caliber. He is not a lock down corner. He will be a decent 2nd I believe, but I would not touch him in the 1st because of that.
Specifically, when he is playing anymore than 5 yards away from the guy, he is easily fooled. He turns his hips great and all that, but when a guy throws a double-step at him, he gets lost quick. He has adequate recovery speed and he is decent against the run, but even in the run, I have seen some whiffs from time to time. So basically he is a good option if you play a bunch of bump and run. Dunno, just after looking a bit deeper, I cannot say I would be thrilled or disappointed. To me, it would be a “blah” pick if we get him in the 1st.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I swear to god
that you just described Nate Clements.
Wouldn’t be surprised if you cut and pasted Clements scouting report to Prince’s.
I do NOT want Prince, I want a guy with elite speed, Prince is not that guy. Clements 2.0
Worse than Clements
Clements isn’t that bad of a CB just overpaid. Prince is benefiting from a strong pass rush which Clements does not.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
My dream draft
Thank you.
That helps the people who might like Prince, but not know the flaws in his game and why you have your reservations about him. I still want to see what he does in the combine before making the decision to pass. I don’t put that much weight on the combine numbers, but it would be nice to see where he stands compared the the guys we could nab in the second round.
by VigilanteSteve on Jan 17, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
I would rather have Jimmy Smith or Brandon Harris
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Haden's game was spotty too
Amukamura should be evaluated in how he’d do in OUR system before blowing him off.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 6:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I just go by what I know.
And there are guys that “I know” have a really, really good shot at succeeding. But we’ll see how it plays out.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I watched his highlights from the OK State game and Texas '09 game.
He looks like 2 different players. In the Texas game, he was all over the WR, even if they made the catch. Other times he was all over them and made McCoy look elsewhere. Teams eveluate him on him ability and potential. I like him and would not think that it would be a bad move if he was drafted by the 49ers in the first round. He looked WAY better than Clements does in coverage. It’s not even close.
by ericalancanty on Jan 18, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Another question Drew
Why is Dowling undraftable (just getting more info on him)?
Draft Nick Fairley
I just have doubts about guys when they sustain injuries like that.
Sometimes guys recover, sometimes they don’t. Draft picks are valuable though and should be used sparingly. If there is someone there that isn’t too far off from how Dowling played when healthy, then you get the healthy guy. Just my opinion anyway.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
And still does.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
by rlott#42 on Jan 17, 2011 6:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
to be fair
Few RBs carry the same load as Gore and those that do get injured as a common occurrence. Thus, a lot of teams use the RBBC.
by asmithisaverage on Jan 18, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
and we spent a mid round pick on him.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
My dream draft
If we used one of the 4ths on him, I guess that's be okay.
But here’s my theory… The 49ers are probably going to spend a max of 2 picks on CB’s. Do you really wanna shake the dice on a guy who may not ever recover?
I thought about this more last year when I was advocating a pick on Walt Thurmand III. He did pretty decent for the Seahawks as a back up, but before the injury, people were talking about him like he was the next Deion Sanders.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
He suffered a broken ankle...that's not that bad. Happens in sports all the time.
Ras-I Dowling is 6’2" and 200 lbs. He had good size for a DB.
by ericalancanty on Jan 18, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Prince Amukamara
The NFL Prince reminds me most of is Nate Clements. IMO he is a very good college CB, good tackling, good run support, but lacks the elite speed necessary for the NFL. I don’t think he has much ceiling left for the NFL. On the other hand Peterson has it and will continue to develop. The Draftable list should get more clarity when the combines are completed. I’m curious what Prince will run.
Prince Amukamara Is Overrated signup list:
these3words
manraj7
hudd07
Drew K
Petillius
anyone else? i think maybe rlott#42 should be on here, not sure.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
I think I may join this list.
I like Prince, but I don’t think that he is the number two CB in this draft. Maybe fourth or fifth, but not second.
"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
I'm not going to lie, I know very little about NCAA Football.
I don’t watch college football, so I rely on the opinions of people who do, namely Drew K. I don’t agree with all that he says, but he seems to know what’s up, and has stated that he would prefer Jimmy Smith or Brandon Harris over Prince Amukamara.
It was rash, and quite honestly wrong, of me to say that Prince is not the number two guy without the ability to back-up that claim. I won’t be upset if we get Prince, I’d just prefer Peterson, or trading down and picking up Smith or Harris.
"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
You can watch it online for the SEC games.
For others follow some people on youtube and they upload whole games.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3
that's not how we do things around here.
when you say things that you can’t back up, and someone calls you out on it, you are supposed to call them names.
you should have responded by saying that bignerd has an irrational love of Nebraska defensive players and that he should get his head on straight and watch some more film.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Ok in these uneasy times...
let’s not use the word “lay off” ;-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Can I get a list ..
of what names I’m supposed to call them? Would Ninny work? How about Patooty too or…bad boy! We really need a list..maybe we can take the list from the ones that Drew and rLott called each other last year and use them. Or some of the ones they called me at times as well.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
rlott#42 said he'd be good
I’m not sure where the Clements comparisons are coming from. Nate Clements wishes he had the footwork of Prince.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Someone said that when I said he's good in bump and run
but when he plays off a receiver, he is easily juked. I elaborated though and said he has great recovery speed. Whoever it was equated that to him being Nate Clements.
There is flaw in his game. But the same could be said about anyone entering the draft. The pro skill-set is different from the college skill-set… at least to be successful.
I don’t think he is going to be bad, but I don’ t think he’ll be a number one corner on the team he is drafted to based off of what I have seen in his play at Nebraska. I am a Big 12 fan, so I have had my on Prince for a couple years now. He has got torched by some receivers who are A) Not even in the pro’s… or B) Are average as a pro now… or C) Will most likely be average in the NFL.
Both Ryan Broyles (OU) and Justin Blackmon (OSU) torched Prince this year.
All his pass deflections came against weaker competition and he wound up with zero interceptions for 2010. He had 5 interceptions LAST YEAR, and has not done much else in his career.
He is solid against the run too… Although I dont completely agree with the Clements comparison, I do see why whoever it was would draw the conclusion.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
That was me.
I called him Nate Clements 2.0 and have been for a while.
I just think their game is VERY similar. Neither has great speed, both are good in bump and run, both need to cheat on routes to get to the ball because of the lack of speed, both get beat in double moves, both are good tacklers and help in the run game, etc…I think Prince is a younger version of Nate Clements back when Nate had better speed. The problem is, when it’s not elite speed, it fades very quickly and you go from being fast enough, to not being fast at all when you lose just a bit of the speed. Whereas guys like DeSean will always be considered “fast” with top speed. Ginn, same thing, etc…Deion always had elite speed. The second Prince loses a little of that quickness either through age, or injury, he will not be a good #1 lock down Corner.
I think they are VERY similar DBs to each other.
Solid against the run is not a knock
and I’m not standing up for Prince (though I like him) as much as we have to remember that even though yes this is a passing league at this time…teams do run. Oh he’s a guy who’s got some prospect and oh he’s good in run support, should not bring about negatives for his run support. What are his coverage abilities? Just because he is good in run support does not mean he is bad in coverage. (Not discounting Drew’s points re:coverage). It’s not quite as black and white as an either/or situation.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Right...and I am not saying he CAN'T be good. I don't want anyone to draw that misconception.
I’m just putting out a “buyer beware” alert. I would put Amukamra in the same category as a Brandon Burton. Because of the hype, incredible front 7, among other things, he is being conceived as a top 10 talent… I don’t think he is as I alluded to above. I think without those things on an island by himself, he is very exploitable. It can be fixed, but to me, he is more of a project.
But I could be wrong. Joe Haden got his butt in camp, worked his tail off and will continue to do so. He’s going to be more than what I thought he would be.
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Footwork?
You think he had good footwork against Blackmon? I know it was just one game, but he was all over the place and had a hard time finding and tracking the ball. He didn’t look anything like elite in that video.
I get it, some WRs can beat you, sometimes you look silly, but he got murdered that game. #7 Dbs don’t get beat like that in College. I’ll pass on him. I’d rather reach for Locker, or take a risk with Quinn than Prince.
#7 pick DB's don't get beat in college
I wonder if YouTube has those videos of Michael Irvin abusing Deion.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Deion ran a 4.1 in the 40
If Prince get’s even close to that I will be glad to take him at 7.
Problem is, on top of getting man handled in college, he will run a 4.5 probably at best and with the 7th pick I’d rather reach for Locker, or take a chance on Quinn. If I’m grabbing the second best DB in the draft, he is going to be fast.
As Ricky Bobby once said “I just wanna go fast”
I’m just throwing cold water on the notion that good DBs don’t get burned in college. If he runs a 4.2 like Deion I’d be ultra excited about the pick to.
Right now the CB position is the fall back option. I’m convinced Locker is worth the shot at #7 with Harbaugh on staff to develop him. I’d like to look at the OLB options next cause again the position has more impact than CB. If any of them look worthy than I’ll take them over a CB. If neither are left/worthy and Prince is left on the board I’d be content with the pick.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
If he runs a 4.2 and has alligator hands I wouldn't
If he runs a 4.2 and doesn’t make the plays that are needed then what does it matter. You can’t coach speed is true but you also can’t coach smarts. You give them what you can and let them out there.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
If he ran a 4.2 then what did Michael run?
I don’t think that anyone would consider Michael be a burner. A worker (and a lot of other things as well..both good and bad)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
prince will wish he could run 4.38 like nate clements
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
its the 5th round, he'll be a project anyways..not like he can be a bust
btw i just found out his name is DeAndre Brown not jordan.
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Too bad we didn't go after Stephen Williams last year.
I think he’s gonna be a stud. He did really well for the Cards when he was given a chance
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lol yeah we need a stud WR next to Crabtree
is it just me or does crabtree seem a bit undersized
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Ummm....
that sounded… well…. uhh… hahaha!
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Crabtree
I don’t like him either—on the field or off the field. I’d like to see Balkke-Harbaugh trade him for a first round pick this year and maybe something else next year. With the first we could maybe pick up J Jones WR from Alabama or sign FA V Jackson from the Chargers and draft more DBs, maybe a good ballhawking FS llke Karim Moore from UCLA. I just can’t see Crabtree being successful in Harbaugh’s very complicated offense with very precise pass routes and lots of timing throws. That’s not Crabtree’s strength, to say the least.
You would have embarrassed any NFL scout with that pick.
I think he’s gonna be the steal of the 2010 Draft.
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….well depending on if the Cards mess it up badly or not.
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Didn't that CB kid from Fresno State go to the Cards as well?
The one that could leap over tall buildings? He looked good and had return capability as well and some ball hawk ability.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Quinn will not be drafted by the Broncos, they paid Dumervil tons of money. Peterson is more likely. I’m hoping for a trade back or Quinn for the Niners.
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The guy from North Carolina that didn't play at all this year?
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Quinn is an OLB in a 34
It’s never a bad thing to have two outstanding OLB’s. See: NY Giants ) late 80’s. Current Baltimore OLB’s. Bears mid 80’s, Redskins now have to former 1st rounders, etc
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Its the money, not the player. I see them trading out before using the pick on Quinn. When you have a sack machine making that kind of money, you dont pay Sam Bradford money to a guy opposite him. Kid would make more than Dumervil.
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Yeah but who is gonna trade up with them?
Nobody is worth what a team would have to give up for the 2nd pick. They are stuck there, may as well go with a guy that is going to earn that money
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Dumervile AND Quinn coming from either side?
That would be ridiculous.
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I like this idea
Only problem is a trade back will require a CBA which looks more unlikely as we approach the draft.
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I like Brandon Harris the best. Peterson and Prince are studs, I think Harris will be best for our roster if he is as fast as I think.
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I like Peterson better, but if we wind up with Harris I'll be happy.
Just hope they do like you said and trade back if they are in fact targeting. I think we can go as far back as 20 and still get him.
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I think Peterson is pro ready, not sure on his speed. Harris has technique issues and wrs still struggle to separate.
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He is really frikin fast...
not sure what he is gonna run in the 40, but on his punt returns he hits another gear. Like a CJ gear…maybe but as fast, but you know what I mean.
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Watch this lott.... :26 in to it... watch what happens off his cut... he is gone....forrest gump gone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCOLpiFxgbM
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lol, EVO-capped right now, vids are to choppy. I have seen him fly, I just think Harris faster and is solid vs the run.
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His return at 1:30's as well.
Notice how he just essentially jukes the opponents out of the way? Devon with hands LOL
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I seen it, but coverage speed is different. I need to see pro dayys and the combine.
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He has good recovery speed when he is beat too.
You dont see too many folks taking it to the house on him. If he makes a mistake, it’s not usually like a Clements or Bly type of mistake.
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ala Neon Dieon. I dont want to spend the money we'll need to draft him.
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Not my money...
If he is 3/4 as good as neon, I would be ecstatic to get him. Lock him up for 5 years.
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Too bad he didnt wait a year for the rookie wage scale
Damnit!
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well none of these guys will be signed until the new CBA
so i guess it could still work out if we get a bit lucky and he falls to us
by monkey spanker on Jan 16, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think they are exempt from it.
I believe it will only impact the 2012 class and on… Since they are drafted before the new CBA, technically they fall in to the prior arrangement.
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so thats how it works
ive been kinda confused on how this limbo draft would go down. i figured theyd lump them in with the new deal, but that was just a guess
by monkey spanker on Jan 16, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not 100% sure...
smileyman or one of them prob has more insight than I do.
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That's what I thought.
but I was shot down several times when I thought Andrew Luck was giving up $50 Million by returning to Stanford
Draftees will fall under the new CBA. Sam Bradford was the last #1 pick to cash in on a huge deal
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well, ill admit im not sure
that just seemed like the logical idea to me. i guess as the draft gets closer we’ll see what people say about it
by monkey spanker on Jan 16, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
I read they have to sit and wait for the new CBA
But that assumes their will be an agreement to change the current system.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Nah, they won't fall in to the prior arrangement.
A contract between a union member and an employer is only valid under the current labor agreement.
Unless they specifically agree in the new CBA that a rookie wage scale starts in 2012, it starts this year.
At the combine after training
Peterson will run a 4.34. And he’s built like a truck. His first 10m split will be the fastest of anybody.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 6:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Can we have a draft countdown clock on the front page?
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Which one?
None of them are Holmgren’s style
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I actually think that he like McCoy
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Lol... Damn McShay...made the kid millions.
A. Smith 2.0
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I agree completely. I think Holmgren will muff a few first rounders in his tenure.
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if Blaine Gabbert had an agent yet
i’d think that guy was paying Todd McShay.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Thats possible..since Colt McCoy really isn't built for the NFL
he’s a solid backup at best.
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Disagree.
I think McCoy can be a solid NFL starter.
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Rumors floating that they arent set on him as Qbotf, Wallace ia still ahead on the depth chart.
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Well I am sure they will bring in competition...
but McCoy just has a spark about him.
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Hey... if the shoe fits.
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If they don't want him I'll be glad for us to take him off their hands
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My dream draft
I said that last week
Except I thought he’d draft Locker. He’s wild and needs some work like Young and Favre.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
That Favre guy had an okay career.
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by happiergilmore on Jan 17, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
How can we get Peterson and Harris?
Any ideas? haha!
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first 2 picks
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They will both be gone in the 1st
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One can dream. I expect cb addition via FA, trade back. I would love Quinn, Harris or AJ Green. Of course 7 is too high for Harris.
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Green is a possibility.
Kid is gridiron-dynamite! Would be a nice receiving corp…no doubt about that. Green and Ginn outside, Crabs in the slot, and VD at TE? Ouch… just need a guy to get them the rock. Plus Gore and Westbrook outta the backfield.
I wonder if Steve Young can still play? Haha
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A.J. Green would be out of left field, but i do like it
If he does drop to us, with no corner at 7, and no possibility to trade down and receive value, i really do like that idea
FYI: The Jets are a bunch of freaking douches… i keep hearing interviews, and i feel like i want to punch them in the face!!!!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
You think Westbrook comes back?
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Why?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hes injury prone, more than Gore, I dont want his production to be relied on. Id rather it wiuld be seen as an added bonus. we need another young rb, like Devine.
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His Production wouldn't be relied on
it would be an incentive. We have Gore and Dixon, and he wouldn’t demand a huge $$$
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So, but, between the two of 'em we have one kickass RB
No?
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I would love to get Devine or Hunter though.
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Devine in the 5th would be nice
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Don't see any chance of Devine in the 5th
Though I agree with you. I see him going in the late 3rd to 4th. You know people are going to fall in love with him.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
agree
He could even go as early as the bottom of the 2nd
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Yep, and possibly late first. A team thats pretty much set can take him. Maybe SD, Pitt, NYJ.
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Devine? Really?
See I think (and maybe I’m being cheap) but the COP RB need is not large enough to warrant him. I’m looking at a few other options: A) Derrick Locke – A bit bigger and just a step slower B) Brandon Saine – a big boy with some speed and outside run ability C) (Knows I’m gonna get crap for this) Ahmad Bradshaw – FA and as with a lot of teams, Giants have a lot of needs and can’t fill every one.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
Devine has Barry Sanders like potential
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Just to back it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDn_IIwUUhI
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Not disagreeing with you...just weighing team needs
It is not a top need …and well…let’s remember that though Barry is great (I loved watching him in the day) his teams never went anywhere. I’m seeing a 4th about as high as we’d be willing to go for a RB. CB and QB have to be in the top 2-3 picks and then we really want to look for a rush LB, I am seriously thinking about Ahmad now because he would give us a young COP back that’s proven and would not cost a pick.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 17, 2011 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
Barry
Had he been on the Cowboys, imagine where they would’ve been. And where he would have been.
You cannot blame the lack of team accomplishments on Barry. Not sure why you even mention that. You put ’90s Barry on the 2011 Niners, and do you honestly think that would be a bad thing?
Devine, if he’s there in the 3rd, would be well worth it IMO. A steal. Defensive linemen and LB’s cannot even see him shooting out of the backfield until it’s too late.
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Yes it would be a bad thing...
warranting who we have at QB. My point is/was that Detroit did him a huge disservice to him by not giving him a good supporting crew. I do have a good bit of faith in our OLine so that would change things a bit. But RB is not something I personally want to put a high pick on. And honestly Id rather have Stiller or Best than Devine.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 17, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
I'm ok with either
Let’s just not throw out one of the name of one of the greatest RB’s in history here. Barry had some thighs and cut on a dime, a lot of Devine’s highlights are speed, not really making the moves Barry did. He looks a LOT more like Sproles. Look at his Junior highlights. Aside from Drew’s freshman like, and someone saying he looked like Barry, you wouldn’t think it with your own two eyes.
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Bull
Go back and look at ALL of his highlights. The kid makes insane cuts. Stops on a dime… all that. Not sure where you get that he is “just speed”. In fact, speed is not his game… he often gets caught from behind like Barry did from time to time.
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I'm not sayin he WILL be the next Barry.
And nobody will be for that matter, with maybe the exception of Barry Sanders Jr. But the fact of the matter is that no one will ever BE Barry Sanders. When I make the comparison, I make it based on the similarities. Devine cuts and moves again just like that.
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He does get caught from behind
and OMG that dude is insane. Seriously I would hate being on the doctor on call when Devine is playing he breaks so many ankles. He also delivers some hits which I love. Not to mention his size is so desirable to me. 5-8 180 I love the small guy.
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This actually made me go back and watch some odl Barry highlights... man I miss watchin that guy play.
His 20 LB shoulder pads crack me up though
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And I cannot wait until Jr. is in college:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu9Q04L4a7k
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THE greatest RB in history.
And no one else, not Jim Brown, not Walter Payton, not Emmitt Smith, is even close. Barry did things the human body shouldn’t even be capable of. He is the Secretariat of RBs.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Had Barry been born in Greece 2000 years ago
We’d still know about him. Because he’d be Barry of Olympus, son of Zeus and the tales of his agility would have earned him Demi-god status.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Sproles can't make the same cuts that Devine makes.
I haven’t seen any RB with that capability since Barry. Hence the comparison.
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He reminds me of Jahvid Best
in the open field, can cut on a dime!
and you worry about him getting injured?
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He didn't get hurt all season
even after he became the feature guy.
Besides, in a WCO he won’t be asked to pound the rock. He can do what he’s always been good at, catching dump-offs and making plays happen.
Is it draft day yet?
Why not?
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I am confused
McNabb? Why not? Old? Maybe it could be the lack of players on Washington. Just a thoight.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
For who?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Peterson AND Harris
Well one of ’em next years 1st
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I would be ALL IN for that scenario.
If Baalke pulled that off, there’s no way I’d ever want the Niners to cut bait
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Maybe it's just me ..
but I’m wary of giving up a next years first for a player…sounds too much Carolina-esque to me.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 16, 2011 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
You should only trade use a future pick for two reasons
Its not yours.
You really love a guy.
Hell those are the only two reasons you should ever trade up.
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I'd rather trade back into the first for a QB Harbaugh loves
by asmithisaverage on Jan 18, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
It his picks
If he wants to trade them for a guy he loves go for it.
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If you can get two stud CB's in the 1st when that is your biggest whole on D, then you don't hesitate, you pull the trigger.
The only way that scenario works of course is if the QB position is addressed. Next years QB class should be much deeper though. What to do, what to do?
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how bout a stud OLB and a stud CB???
personally i don’t think peterson will be there for us @ #7 because denver, buffalo, Az, and Cleveland ALL need DB help and to think they would ALL pass on that sure of a thing is not realistic…u think von miller would be worth a shot @ 7?? or too high??
Cleveland is actually set as far as DB's go
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Since Alex won't be back....
Sign VY, Kyle Orton or trade for Fitzpatrick because he’ll be able to groom our 2012 QB pick.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The scary thing is, Alex technically could be back
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it's technically possible
and it’s technically possible for me to win the lottery… just extremely unlikely.
Is it draft day yet?
Dunno... there's not a ton of QB options out there.
Harbaugh may think he can transform him. Every coach that Alex has had was defensive minded with exception to Norv Turner who only got a year with him.
Guess we’ll know for sure before too long.
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I'm not disagreeing that Harbaugh could work with him
but unless we have a CBA by the end of the league year, he’ll be a UFA before we can sign him so he can entertain offers from all directions… why would he want to come back? He has no continuity here with yet another coaching change… all he’d be returning to is a fan base who (largely) hates him.
I don’t think it happens :P
Is it draft day yet?
I agree with you here
He is boo’d when he throws an incompletion, he even mentioned it Monday after the season how it was ridiculous. He could come back, but I think it’s HIGHLY unlikely.
I’d say there is a 30% chance that he’s back. If Harbaugh wants him, he’d convince Smith to stay.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I almost wish he would...Harbaugh could mold him well
but I think he ends up somewhere else to try and prove his naysayers wrong.
Is it draft day yet?
I think the only way he comes back
Is if CBA drags on, and there isn’t much of a free agency so he re-signs because not a lot of time to get into another camp, etc…maybe a one year deal.
smith ant coming back
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
You don't think Smith is a 2nd rounder?
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Late first early 2nd
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Peterson and Harris
almost impossible. I can do Harris and Smith. Trade back to late teens grab Harris and then trade up again to grab Smith. Peterson if he slips we can get him but then we will have to trade up to get Harris.
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No we won't
Harris will go late teens to back of the 1st round. If we traded next years first like Lott suggested, then you’re golden
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You have him going 22nd
You can trade up to #20 without having to affect the first pick. Our Next year first is worth about 750. Which is about a #23 in this year draft.
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which players on the 53 roster this year
will not be back next year?
besides alex smith?
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ray mcdonald?
he will be restricted free agent
c.j. spillman?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure that if Marecic is there by our 2nd 4th rounder that we will get him.
He is a huge reason why Gerhart and Stepfan Taylor have had so much success at Stanford.
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Merecic is
a WC FB playing under the radar. Some teams may view him strcitly as a ST player. I see him available in the 5th or 6th
Mock draft 2.0: 1) CB- Prince Amukamara, Nebraska 2) DE- Cameron Jordan, California 3) LB- Bruce Carter, North Carolina 4) WR- Austin Pettis, Boise State 4) QB- Pat Devlin, Deleware 5) RB- Darren Evans, Virginia Tech 6) S- Tejay Johnson, Texas Christian 6) FB- Owen Merecic, Stanford 7) OL- Danny Watkins, Baylor 7) LB- Wayne Daniels, Texas Christian
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well one thing is for sure... I am sure Rathman will like him.
And despite what Gore want with his buddy Norris, Marecic would probably blow him away in camp and preseason.
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I think
that if we get Merecic, whether in the 4-5-6-7-UNDFA. He will be our starting FB next season, love the dude. Also, fills out a BU LB spot
Mock draft 2.0: 1) CB- Prince Amukamara, Nebraska 2) DE- Cameron Jordan, California 3) LB- Bruce Carter, North Carolina 4) WR- Austin Pettis, Boise State 4) QB- Pat Devlin, Deleware 5) RB- Darren Evans, Virginia Tech 6) S- Tejay Johnson, Texas Christian 6) FB- Owen Merecic, Stanford 7) OL- Danny Watkins, Baylor 7) LB- Wayne Daniels, Texas Christian
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
He can be a good FB too
As well as a great ST.
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Isn't Brit Miller on the PS? He is a Rathman clone. Can block and catch. Great for the WCO.
by ericalancanty on Jan 18, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
No he got picked up by someone. There are no fullbacks on the PS currently. (Maybe Jehuu Calucrick(sp?)?)
there is no practice squad right now.
it’s the offseason.
if they aren’t on the main roster, they aren’t with the team.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Marecic and Harbaugh and Bay Area possibilities
Agree with drafting Marecic. One huge plus is that Owen already knows the offense, the blocking schemes, pass routes, etc. So the usual time it takes to learn a new system is not there. Another plus, he already knows Harbaugh, and Harbaugh totally loves him and the way he plays football. He can immediately contribute as a FB, and as a ST player who can take on blocks and tackle really well. 4th round sounds about right depending on his 40 times.
Sione Fua is another Stanford player who fits well with 49ers needs at NT and DE in the 3-4. It is generally agreed than Fua was Stanford’s best defensive player, though his stats were not great from the NT position. He will probably need some time to mature, so getting or retaining a good, veteran NT [Ngata or Franklin] seems essential. Ryan Whalen could be a FA signing. Good route runner, strong hands, knows the offense.
I don’t know Cal football well, but Cameron Jordan seems like a strong player who will be gone by the second round. Shane Vereen could be a decent change of pace RB. I don’t think Dixon is long for the NFL, good effort, poor speed, and doesn’t add much to Gore. Mike Mohamed could be a good late round pick-up. Any other possibilities?
Its not that I hate the mock draft
But I hate the not Sean Taylor pick, because unlike any other NFL player in trouble, he didnt do anything wrong.
And it just makes me sad.
What?
some kind of sick joke
Mock draft 2.0: 1) CB- Prince Amukamara, Nebraska 2) DE- Cameron Jordan, California 3) LB- Bruce Carter, North Carolina 4) WR- Austin Pettis, Boise State 4) QB- Pat Devlin, Deleware 5) RB- Darren Evans, Virginia Tech 6) S- Tejay Johnson, Texas Christian 6) FB- Owen Merecic, Stanford 7) OL- Danny Watkins, Baylor 7) LB- Wayne Daniels, Texas Christian
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
THIS R.I.P.

Mock draft 2.0: 1) CB- Prince Amukamara, Nebraska 2) DE- Cameron Jordan, California 3) LB- Bruce Carter, North Carolina 4) WR- Austin Pettis, Boise State 4) QB- Pat Devlin, Deleware 5) RB- Darren Evans, Virginia Tech 6) S- Tejay Johnson, Texas Christian 6) FB- Owen Merecic, Stanford 7) OL- Danny Watkins, Baylor 7) LB- Wayne Daniels, Texas Christian
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 16, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
epic fail
parly haralson salary $5,737,280
3 million more a year can have player like tamba hali
42 tackles-4 sacks and nothing else.
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Dam you got Torrey Smith goin in the first?
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he is supposed to be the best fastest receiver in the next two years.
would be a sweet pickup with the niners second rounder
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 17, 2011 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
I have him in the first too
Going to KC
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Prince Amukamara
Up until about 5 minutes ago I was sure that Prince would be a solid option for us at #7. Granted, his ‘09 tape doesn’t look amazing but has played almost lights out this year. He hasn’t put up great numbers but QB’s aren’t throwing in his direction. He also plays with more physicality than what I’ve seen from Peterson primarily in run support.
I love the idea of getting Patrick Peterson but was just curious about what turned you off with Prince Amukamara.
Justin Blackmon
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Yes, he got burned every play
He also benefits from a great pass rush.
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For the last two years
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Not even a good pass rush
a great one.
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My mock draft
1. Carolina (2-14) Nick Fairley DT Auburn
2. Denver (4-12) Marcel Daerus DE Alabama
3. Buffalo (4-12) AJ Green WR Georgia
4. Cincinnati (4-12) DaQuan Bowers DE Clemsom
5. Arizona (5-11) Robert Quinn DE/OLB UNC
6. Cleveland (5-11) Julio Jones WR Alabama
7. San Francisco (6-10) Patrick Peterson CB LSU
8. Tennessee (6-10) Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
9. Dallas (6-10) Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
10. Washington (6-10) Jake Locker QB UW
11. Houston (6-10) Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
12. Minnesota (6-10) Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
13. Detroit (6-10) Akeem Ayers LB UCLA
14. St. Louis (7-9) Jonathon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
15. Miami (7-9) Mark Ingram RB Alabama
16. Jacksonville (8-8) Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
17. New England – from Oakland (8-8) Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
18. San Diego (9-7) Cameron Jordan DE Cal
19. New York Giants (10-6) Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi
20. Tampa Bay (10-6) JJ Watt DE Wisconsin
21. Kansas City (10-6) Torrey Smith WR Maryland
22. Indianapolis (10-6) Anthony Castanzo OT BYU
23. Philadelphia (10-6) Gabe Camri OT Wisconsin
24. New Orleans (11-5) Cameron Heyward DE Ohio
25. Seattle (7-9) Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State
26. Baltimore (12-4) Brandon Harris CB Miami
27. Atlanta (13-3) Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
28. New England (14-2) Jason Pinkston OG Pittsburgh
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Well This draft looks pretty darn good
Really can’t question many of those picks. Well, except Locker over Mallett. Although i agree Locker is the best prospect, Mallett will go before him
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
Locker is a better fit than Mallett in Washington.
I actually like Mallett over Locker but no player is greater than the team.
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Coming from a team that put their trust in Favre (Minnesota)
I don’t see Lockers as a better fit
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
Hence Locker went to Washington
Mallett went to Minnesota
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Okay never mind, guess i have the cases of Nate Davis LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
Its all good. I could see Mallett going first if he goes to the Cards. Fitz wants a guy that can throw it to him deep and accurately. I’ll probably have to change it up because of Denver. Stupid Denver.
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Mallett would get murdered playing behind the Cards Oline
like…literally murdered
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maybe, or maybe he will become a bit more mobile
Or develope the fastest trigger in history. He be so fast, he can pass the ball before the snap!
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Thats called a "fumble"
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I'm going to have to change it up though
since denver is switching to a 4-3.
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Stupid John Fox
ruined my whole mock draft.
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personally, i think the Bills are most likely to take a pass rusher.
they have nothing at OLB and there should be some intriguing prospects available at that spot.
specifically Robert Quinn, and maybe Aldon Smith if he continues to fly up draft boards.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Guys wth I leave for 2 hours and this post gets 200 comments.
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Say what?
My sig rivals yours LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
Your sig
represents Katie Mcgrath. My sig represents both Mila Kunis and Scarlett Johansson. Johansson called Kunis “sweet lips” tonight, kinda gave me warm feeling quick LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
At the Golden Globe Awards Tonight!!!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:30 AM PST up reply actions
This

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:26 AM PST up reply actions
Also
she is wearing a Morrison “Doors” shirt, A+ in my books. Oh the dreams tonight LOL. Just make sure my fiance isn’t looking up my history
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:34 AM PST up reply actions
Jim Morrison?
How old are you? You don’t know the “Doors”? I am not even 30, and i know them
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:37 AM PST up reply actions
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:39 AM PST up reply actions
I'm 19 and I don't listen to rock
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Oh okay
I am 28. And, i love The Beatles, The Doors, U2, Skynard, Chicago, Jefferson Airplane etc… At your age i hated rock, you should give it a chance
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:43 AM PST up reply actions
Beatles are the best of all time
Draft Nick Fairley
by REDANDGOLD8 on Jan 17, 2011 1:44 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Completely Agree
Rec +100 if i could
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:45 AM PST up reply actions
the Beatles remind me of a kids band.
i don’t understand the mass love for them at all.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Because I am the Walrus
Is a kids song. Damn the kids got into my LSD again :/
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2011 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Tell me you are joking and that isn't really a song.
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Its off Magical Mystery Tour
2 tracks before Strawberry Fields Forever.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Tragically Hip anybody?
L'eggo my Eggo.
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by happiergilmore on Jan 17, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
On my phone otherwise
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
On my phone otherwise I'd rec
I’ve been on that ish for a while. I’ve been getting hella back into motown from the childhood radio brainwashing cause it has awesome groove for snowboarding.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Could Pat Williams play NT or DE in the 3-4?
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Seriously
he is a pure NT/DT in a 3-4 or 4-3. Dude at 320+ will never be an end, no matter the scheme
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:32 AM PST up reply actions
Awesome
I wonder if we could sign him. He doesn’t like Minnesota.
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We
have Franklin and/or RJF to play NT in a 3-4, no need for him.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
Pat is better than them combined.
Did you see how dominant Vince Wilfork was. I want a NT like that.
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Need to look in the draft...
Franklin isn’t worth Franchise money and I’m not sold on RJF as anything close to a replacement.
Powe from Ole Miss
is 6-2 340
Here is his scouting report.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/DT/Jerrell-Powe.php
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I'm looking for some video
Ole Miss is from the SEC right?
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Ya he is
against a quality O-Line in Alabama
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He can't read though
http://www.footballfanspot.com/jerrellpowescout.htm
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If any position would allow a guy that can't read
It’s Nose Tackle. I mean seriously, just take on two blockers, and call it a day. Great job if he can do just that. It’s not like he has to really know scheme or anything.
Basically
He knows how to read now. He lost weight now and is 320 was 340 last year. Seems pretty good still. Would love to have him at NT. He is 23 and NT last until what 34-36? Even if we give him some time on the bench he will still be a good NT for years to come.
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How about this Mock guys. Just a little bit of fun.
1) Patrick Peterson CB LSU
2) Jeremy Beal OLB Oklahoma
3) Pat Devlin QB Delaware
4) Owen Marecic FB Stanford
4) Austin Pettis WR Boise State
5) Mike Blanc DE/DT Auburn
5) Traded to Tampa Bay for Josh Johnson
6) Alex Henery K Nebraska
7) Chase Beeler C Stanford
7) Baron Batch RB Texas Tech
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Stephen Curry to David Lee
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I
like it, but no reason to draft a K, we have Jeff Reed
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:44 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
we also have a K that can kick 69 yards on the P-Squad.
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He
is on our practice squad and made a crazy FG in a semi pro Florida League game.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:51 AM PST up reply actions
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:53 AM PST up reply actions
Here's the data ...
Fabrizio Scaccia (pronounced SCOTCH-uh — has to be a good guy, I’m a scotch drinker)
6-1 210# 26 years old
2009 Arizona Rattlers of AFL — PAT 69/74, FG 1/4
2010 Sacramento Mt. Lions of UFL — PAT 17/17, FG 12/16, longest FG 54 yards, the UFL record
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 17, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
So he is 13/20 thats not very good
Like 65%
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He is 31
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:56 AM PST up reply actions
Reply fail
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
we have Jeff Reed
Candlestick is beat up enough, we don’t need Jeff Reed to break more paper towel dispensers.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 1:48 AM PST up reply actions
His career stats…. then get back at me
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:50 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't matter what his stats are when he has a history of getting drunk and disorderly.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 1:55 AM PST up reply actions
So does S-Bas with Oakland, Still pretty good right?
I say keep Reed and push him with Scaccia, and see what we get. Don’t waste a pick on a K when we may have two here
And to say “Doesn’t matter what his stats are” means little to me. He won and kicked FGs in two Super Bowls with Pittsburgh
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
Having head cases and trouble makers isn't the best way to construct a team.
Ask the Bengals. It doesn’t work.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 2:03 AM PST up reply actions
Henery can punt too
If Andy Lee goes down (not that he would) but just in case, its always good to have insurance with a two-for
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It would give us an extra spot on the 53 for the future.
But Andy Lee will probably be punting in to his early 90’s… I assume anyway
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We should just sign him to a 60-year contract
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Drew ... rather have Hennry than Kai Forbath?
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 17, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Alex Henery
I don’t share the same belief as Drew. If a guy has talent draft him doesn’t matter of the position. Henery has a leg but doesn’t do the KO. I wouldn’t mind drafting him in the 5th since I love my ST.
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If he doesn't do kickoffs i hesitate
because carrying 3 kickers would be stupid.
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The Saints do it
They have a KO specialist a PK and a Punter.
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I didn't know that
but I still don’t think it’s worthwhile since the skill sets are so similar. If the 18 game season and increased roster sizes happen, then we can do it, but mehhhhhh
Is it draft day yet?
If we have an 18 game season we will have an expanded roster.
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That's what I said :P
If we have more games and thereby more players on the roster, then OK, but otherwise, meh.
Is it draft day yet?
Its going to happen.
Scotch can be the KO and Henery the PK.
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I'd like that IAOI the 18 game season happens.
What do you think we do if we stay at 16 games? 3 kickers is a possibility like you said, but maybe we keep Old Sausage Legs and Andy Lee?
Is it draft day yet?
*Cums hard!*
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
We only have 1 5th round pick
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FA wish list
Pat Williams- NT (Beast in stopping the run. Would anchor the middle of the line and allow Willis to run free without a guard on him all game. )
Tamba Hali – OLB (He isn’t a one year wonder his sack totals 8, 7.5, 3, 8.5, 14.5. Don’t know how good he is in coverage.)
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So our front 7 would be
Smith Williams Soap/Frank/RJF (whichever one works best)
Lawson Willis Spikes Hali
Would be beastly.
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Lawson is gone
Brooks/Haralson would start opposite of Hali. Still not that bad of a front 7.
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What makes you so sure that Lawson is gone?
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 17, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Unless they franchise him
He’s more of a 4-3 OLB than a 3-4. He’s just not a great pass rusher, even if he is great all around. He’ll cost a lot to keep.
Is it draft day yet?
No he isnt, he has been misused. Everyone is looking at his sack total. He forced 8or 9 fumbles in two seasons. Hes stout vs the run.
Remove Clements and Lawson and the run d will suffer.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
Depends who you put in their places.
How do you misuse a 3-4 OLB? He rushes the passer plenty… he just rarely gets there.
Believe me, I’m a Lawson fanboy. I just think he’s a misfit in our system and is not an outstanding rusher. Whether or not he can be is up for debate.
Is it draft day yet?
Really? Do you remember the stunt up the middle on Orton? The defense didn’t run that play again. You line him up to rush the passer or cover the TE. We used very little zone blitzing and cb bites and his height and speed could cover a void. If you think an Olb has two jobs that’s ridiculous. With a pass rushed opposite him, he’d be great. Only the Steelers have two great PR olbs. Lawson used one type of pass rush, to the outside, and that’s a bad scheme.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
Or 3
We will still find DB’s in 2nd-3rd round too. I was thinking trying to maybe get Robert Sands from WVU (safety).
Draft Nick Fairley
Sands
“Hard hitting safety with limited coverage ability”. From NFL Draft Scout, this sounds a bit like Dashon Goldson to me
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 17, 2011 1:54 AM PST up reply actions
Reggie Smith – FS
Taylor Mays – SS
We’re covered. Mays will get better and he is perfect to cover TE’s.
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….and help with the run
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
If Mays doesn't turn out at S
What do you think of converting to OLB?
Official Survivor of 2011 Harbaughcalypse.
He would have to pack on 10-15 LBS or so...
But I think he has it in him to be a solid SS
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He's an athletic freak
I think if he had to he could put on the weight. I agree that he’ll turn out at SS though.
Is it draft day yet?
Mays has less than 5% body fat
He could probably pack on an effective 20 lbs in an off-season
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He'd look just like a leaner Von Miller if he did.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Correct.
Mays might never cover little slot guys, but put him against ANY TE in the league and it’s a favorable matchup.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He is strong enough and fast enough
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Late round prospects
Guys I’d like to see in rounds 5-7 if available
NT Phil Taylor, Baylor
DE Mike Blanc, Auburn
WR Terrence Toliver, LSU
G John Moffitt, Wisconsin
QB Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin
OLB Greg Romeus, Pittsburgh
FS Chimdi Chekwa, Ohio State
SS Robert Sands, West Virginia
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Can't believe I forgot someone
Brandyn Thompson from Boise State
I’m still pretty shocked he’s not being considered at least a 4th round talent. This kid has been locking down WR’s and getting INTs since his true freshman year. I almost forgot he was eligible for the draft since he’s getting ZERO hype.
I’d love Thompson in the last couple of rounds as a nickel corner.
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 17, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
He got targeted a lot last year I believe
because he was opposite of Kyle Wilson. Also Boise always has good corners.
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why is everyone convinced Terrence Toliver is a late round guy?
everyone wants their team to draft him, but no one thinks they will have to spend a high pick.
if he is in demand, he will be drafted high.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
That's why I said if available
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s taken in round 3
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 18, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
A guy or two to keep an eye on in the East-West Shrine game
DT Terrell McClain of USF – 6’1 1/2" 298 lbs
OLB Dontay Moch – Nevada
QB Pat Devin – Delaware
QB Scott Tolzien – Wisconsin
WR Terrence Toliver – LSU
WR Armon Binns – Cincinatti
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 17, 2011 8:20 AM PST reply actions
Moch is going to fly up boards if he performs well there
The combine is already his big coming out party
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 17, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Reports say
Moch was clocked running in the 4.4’s twice this year. That has to be one of the fastest times ever for an OLB assuming it was accurate
How about Von Miller??
Butkus award winner….kinda small(ish) @ only 240lbs. but i’m sure he would bulk up a little bit more….love his ability to get to the qb and that quick first step off the edge…i know we need help @ CB but p.peterson will NOT be there @ #7 and the rest of the CB’s i don’t see as worthy of he #7…..a CB’s best friend is a GREAT pass rush….just a thought..
We have Von Miller on our team
Except he plays SS.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ok offseason dream
FA
restructure Clements contract
Clements is overpaid. He is an above average corner but isn’t a shutdown corner. Him and a lockdown CB will be a great duo.
Sign Tamba Hali
Although it may seem that he is having a one year wonder Tamba Hali has been averaging more than 8 sacks a year. This is including the year where he had 3 sacks. When was the last time we had a guy that had 8 sacks?
Sign Pat Williams (optional)
Dude is a run stuffer at heart. If we could get a guy that could collapse the pocket from the middle the passing game and run game will be shut down.
Draft
1. Patrick Peterson CB LSU
I don’t really need to get into why I want him.
2. Jerrell Powe NT Ole Miss
6-2 320 and he lost weight this year. The guy is built to be a NT. Franklin isn’t going to be playing with us for much longer and who knows how good RJF is.
3. Casey Matthews OLB Oregon
I love Oregon players mostly because they play so fast. Casey will be a decent OLB. He may not be as good as his brother but if he is 3/4ths as good as him it will be a steal.
4. Noel Devine RB West Virgina University
Although I personally don’t like drafting a RB we need a COP back.
4. Owen Marecic FB Stanford
Smart player and great hands. He seems like a decent WCO FB. Yes, I finally looked up and read up on WCO took me a day but I think I finally understand has an indepth conversation about it.
5. Alex Henery K Nebraska
What a leg and more importantly what an accurate leg. He only missed one FG this year. Which was a 53 yarder and blocked. He is also a punter so if Andy Lee gets injured (God forbid) he can be the backup punter. If you clicked the link you saw that he kicked a 57 yarder with no wind. Nedney is injured every year and I’m tired of having an annual search for a kicker.
6. Clay Nurse DE/OLB Illinois
This is pending the combine/proday. If he can show that he is athletic enough to play OLB then he would be perfect. He is 6-3 260. He has some stamina issues since I do not see him playing every play. he plays DE right now so his coverage will be lacking a little. Since a 6th round pick isn’t expected to start right away he could always learn how to cover while he plays ST for a little bit. I know I say that I hate throwing random players to play ST just to play it but he has to get some experience somewhere.
6. Chase Beeler C Stanford
I don’t know why people don’t have him ranked higher? He seems light though weighing 270 lbs. Since the 3-4 Defense is the new fad in the NFL it seems vital for the Center to be strong enough to take on the NT.
The 7th round is up for grabs. Just grab people that are really athletic.
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Who are you going into the season with at QB?
Are you projecting we go into the season with Carr as our one and only QB?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 17, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
Crabtree was a QB coming out of HS, he has to be better than Carr.
Where is Arnaz Battle when you need him.
by VigilanteSteve on Jan 17, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
good answer and yes he probably is.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Uhh
I have no idea. I didn’t plan that. Carr I guess. Andrew Luck here we come.
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Plus
you can’t really mock trading our 2nd and 3rd picks (or more/less) to move into the late 1st round for our QB.
by asmithisaverage on Jan 18, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
You didn't plan who our QB would be?
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by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't think about the QB position
I was trying to stock pile talent.
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I didn’t think about the QB position
signed, Mikeraj Seventary.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 19, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
It can happen to anyone
I just tried to build up the defense and ST. I reworked it so have no fear David Carr won’t start for us.
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I value the position more than him
But I like to have a beastly defense and ST. I want to be elite in Defense and ST. Like #1 in both categories.
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I forgot to link some
Powe He is #57
Clay Nurse #97
Chase Beeler He is the Center.
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I like it except we need at least one QB at some point.
I watched the video of that Devine kid and I gotta say… damn. He’s not a burner but man he’s quick and has insane change of direction.
Is it draft day yet?
I know I love it.
I guess we don’t need Casey Mathews and replace him with a QB.
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Devlin?
He can probably be had in the 3rd and he has the potential to be starting material. Of course, I’m assuming his draft stock doesn’t skyrocket as supraman predicts.
Is it draft day yet?
I don't think it does
But ya Devlin in the 3rd.
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Grab McElory. 65.8 passes per pick. 66% for his career. 38 to 10 TD - INT.
He really resembles Montana in size and arm strength. Is a very accurate passer from short to medium range. Smart and would be perfect for the WCO.
by ericalancanty on Jan 18, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Finally, somebody else sees the light
Rhodes Scolar candidate smart, undefeated in his high school career and we could probably get him in the 3rd round. What Harbaugh could mold this kid into – Montana 2?
by DeathValleyCarl on Jan 18, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Is every guy with similar stats gonna be an Alex?
Alex didn’t bust because he has no talent. He busted because he was horribly managed. We think we have excellent QB development skills now… if it was 2005 with this coaching staff, Alex Smith would look like a dandy pick and he might actually become something more than a pariah.
Is it draft day yet?
lets move on
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
Alex didn’t bust because he has no talent. He busted because he was horribly managed.
i disagree. i still think he busted mostly because he didn’t have the natural intangibles to be a franchise QB in the NFL.
if he gets drafted into a better situation then maybe he works out better than he did, but i don’t think there’s a scenario where Alex Smith lives up to a 1st overall pick.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
He busted due to lack of management...
and due to the fact that he didn’t have the moxie to overcome it.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
This.
In a great situation, he always could have been great. I don’t think it’s a knock on him to say that he couldn’t overcome the serious adversity he’s faced in his NFL career. I still think he will land somewhere (I’d say Miami except for Nolan) and silence his naysayers.
Is it draft day yet?
Hey guys guess what I found
A whole game on Pat Devlin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXspH1pSieQ&feature=recentlik
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Liked what I saw.
Accurate, strong throws. Though the utter lack of snaps under center might be a problem. And a few balls got away from him (a few shouldn’t have been thrown). He also didn’t take many shots downfield.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't fully watch it
Just glanced at it.
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It's only 8 minutes.
And the last minute or so is Delaware running out the clock.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't impressed
I like Locker better
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And if we can't get Locker, then my personal belief is that Devlin in the 3rd is the next best option.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
That's probably why Locker is a 1st rounder while Devlin is a 3rd.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
I would take Locker in the first more than the Devlin in the third.
Also I like Mcelroy.
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So would I.
Ever since Luck went back to college, Locker has been my favorite QB. There’s just so much to like about him.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
I still think we should figure out how to get Luck
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We may have to.
With the CBA up in the air, we can’t sign rookies and can’t make trades. And the free agent market isn’t great. Unless you want to see McNabb flounder around for a year.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Sign him off the street for the minimum when he drops out of Stanford.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
We should trade down if Peterson is gone by #7 and get this years #1 and next years #1.
That way we can trade 2 number ones and a future for Luck.
by ericalancanty on Jan 18, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Hell with it, get both!
1 – Locker
2 – J. Smith (or Harris if he lasts that long)
3- Devlin
4- Another CB?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Why this year?
This isn’t the draft to get 2 QB’s. Wait til next year and build an actual football team first.
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 18, 2011 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah cauuse your opinion is that neither could EVER amount to anything.
We have 10 FRIKIN DRAFT PICKS! OUR TEAM DOES NOT HAVE THAT MANY HOLES!!!
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Basically QB and our Secondary
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Tend to agree with you about "holes", not that other positions shouldn't be upgraded.
Does this mean that you think our run-stopping front 7 will be able to transform into Fanzio’s blitz-driven schemes without much help from the draft?
by DeathValleyCarl on Jan 18, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Yet another absurdly abrasive and ignorant post from you Drew
I never said that neither would or could amount to anything. What I said was that this isn’t the year to draft 2 QB’s, especially not in the first three rounds.
If you were talking about taking a flyer in the 6th/7th round on a Nate Davis kind of prospect, then OK. You’re basically investing your entire draft in the QB position. This isn’t a good QB class at the top of the draft as even you admitted recently.
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 18, 2011 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
This isn't a good class at any position there smart guy.
Do not condescend me anymore. 90% of the crap you post is ignorant ,yet I do not stoop to calling them as such. Have a little damn respect, or get the hell off these boards!!!
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We have 10 draft picks… that was the point. We arent gonna draft 5 CB’s and 5 Defensive Linemen.
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Obviously not
but I would like
2 CB (1 early and 1 with athletic ability and potential)
1 NT (I want this guy big and strong. 320+ lbs and a real physical beast)
1 QB at least
1-2 OLB mid rounds that have athletic potential and/or just plain skill.
Then draft guys that are athletically gifted that you believe could turn into a superstar given the correct coaching.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 18, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you Drew
until we get a QB, we need to take minimum of two. Especially since we are a team with no depth and no prospects at QB.
Yep
We can take a 7th/UDFA guy like we did last year with Jarrett Brown (or whatever his name was). We have a big need there, especially if we can’t trade for guys or sign free agents!
Is it draft day yet?
if we can't sign free agents
then we can’t sign UDFAs.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
I will wait for the East-West Shrine game
He looked good but still more to be seen. Alex Smith would have been a pro bowl QB if he was allowed to sit flat footed in the same spot and read the defense the entire time. Want to see how he does taking a snap under center and defensive linemen pushing him off his spot before he’s had time to read.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Aren't both Mac and the Devil at the EW Shrine Game?
Harbaugh’s scouts can get a good look at both.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
some of his passes don't have much velocity.
either that, or i’ve been watching Aaron Rodgers.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Chad Spann (RB) -- N. Illinois -- possible 6th/ 7th Round. 5'9", 200 LBS. 22 TD's this year, 19 last year, 1300 yards this year, 1000+ last.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o4pIH0wx6Q&feature=related
What do you all think?
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Wild guess.
4.55?
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 17, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
average... 4.45 or so...
but has nice break away speed, game speed.
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CBS Sports has him at 4.58
Is he invited to the combine? I’m guessing he’s not.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Prob not.
He’ll just do a small pro day at N. Illinois or something like that. He may go undrafted just because of the lack of recognition.
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Its not an official or anything like that.
It’s about what Dixon runs anyway
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looks decent, not super quick or powerful... kind of a tweener
plus in that video, a lot of his big plays were just plain luck/bad tackling. I wouldn’t be opposed to trying him out as a 7th/UDFA but I’m rooting for Devine or Rodgers in the 4th.
Is it draft day yet?
Really really hard to judge RB coming out of places like N. Illinois
How good was his line? How bad was the talent across from him? Plus a million more questions. As the Niners… We got 99 problems but a RB ain’t one.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2011 7:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually it is a problem when you cannot keep feature RB's healthy.
and get down to a 3rd stringer
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Our 3rd stringer is pretty damn good
Assuming WB ends up being our second stringer again.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2011 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
He's alright... nothin to write home about though.
Def not a guy who would be able to carry the load by himself if something were to happen to both Gore and Westbrook.
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I think we'll see some significant improvement from him
He plays with a fire that has to carry over to the way he prepares himself. Unlike Glen Coffee and Nate Davis I think Dixon understands what being a pro football player entails.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2011 2:04 AM PST up reply actions
Also with Frank coming off a serious injury
I’d hesitate to hang the hopes of the team on him until he shows he’s fully recovered and can carry the load again. RB is not a huge need but I definitely want one in the 5th or earlier.
Is it draft day yet?
My current vote is going for...
Derrick Locke. Probably 4-6th rounder. 5’9" 192 lbs. 4.36 40. From KY or to pick up Ahmad Bradshaw in FA, he’ll be 24 yrs old.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Dunno but looking at him drag up to 8 guys seems kind of appealing at any level.
And then breaking away from 2 man tackles. Had some nice moves too.
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Michael Turner came from there.
Chargers saw value… and I actually like this guy better than Turner. Turner was a 5th rounder. You can’t always use the “lessor competition” argument. Sometimes you just have to look at the player and his ability.
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Of I definitely understand that
Pennington and Moss played against lesser competition too. One was solid and the other is a guaranteed Hall of Famer.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
i love how instinctive he is.
he makes his cuts very decisively, but they’re the right cuts.
gotta believe that will translate to the NFL.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Spann is a good find. I wonder what Iupati would think of him.
His running style somehow reminds me of LaGarrette Blount—except that he’s a way smaller than Blount. He keeps a great pad level and breaks a surprising number of tackles for a guy his size and seems (at least in the video you linked) to always fall forward.
Props to York/Baalke for reeling in Harbaugh. Now everybody get back to work!
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Greg Salas might be a nice option and good fit for WCO offense as a WR in the later rounds.
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Offseason dream redrawn: I forgot a QB
FA
restructure Clements contract
Clements is overpaid. He is an above average corner but isn’t a shutdown corner. Him and a lockdown CB will be a great duo.
Sign Tamba Hali
Although it may seem that he is having a one year wonder Tamba Hali has been averaging more than 8 sacks a year. This is including the year where he had 3 sacks. When was the last time we had a guy that had 8 sacks?
Sign Pat Williams (optional)
Dude is a run stuffer at heart. If we could get a guy that could collapse the pocket from the middle the passing game and run game will be shut down.
Draft
1. Patrick Peterson CB LSU
I don’t really need to get into why I want him.
2. Jerrell Powe NT Ole Miss
6-2 320 and he lost weight this year. The guy is built to be a NT. Franklin isn’t going to be playing with us for much longer and who knows how good RJF is.
3. Casey Matthews OLB Oregon
I love Oregon players mostly because they play so fast. Casey will be a decent OLB. He may not be as good as his brother but if he is 3/4ths as good as him it will be a steal.
4. Noel Devine RB West Virgina University
Although I personally don’t like drafting a RB we need a COP back.
4. Owen Marecic FB Stanford
Smart player and great hands. He seems like a decent WCO FB. Yes, I finally looked up and read up on WCO took me a day but I think I finally understand has an indepth conversation about it.
5. Alex Henery K Nebraska
What a leg and more importantly what an accurate leg. He only missed one FG this year. Which was a 53 yarder and blocked. He is also a punter so if Andy Lee gets injured (God forbid) he can be the backup punter. If you clicked the link you saw that he kicked a 57 yarder with no wind. Nedney is injured every year and I’m tired of having an annual search for a kicker.
6. Greg McElroy QB Alabama
Very intelligent. Has a decent release. Although he isn’t the greatest of athletes neither are many of the top QBs. Hasn’t been asked to carry the game a lot but when he has he has pulled through.
6. Chase Beeler C Stanford
I don’t know why people don’t have him ranked higher? He seems light though weighing 270 lbs. Since the 3-4 Defense is the new fad in the NFL it seems vital for the Center to be strong enough to take on the NT.
7. Clay Nurse OLB Illinois
Look at the first one.
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I don't think we could get Pat Williams
He will probably want to get a shot at a ring. Since he is 38.
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My dream draft
where does a potential late round WR fit on the depth chart though?
I doubt we have any special attachment to K. Williams or Ziegler but at least we know what we have in them, esp. in an offseason of such uncertainty.
Is it draft day yet?
Crabtree, Ginn, and Morgan are, while not superstars, all quality starters
Then you can have your pick of Ziegler or Williams. None of those guys are in dire need of replacement, particularly considering we have one superstar TE and one quite good TE.
Our receiving corps is quality for now…it makes more sense to focus on filling holes than upgrading positions of non-need.
Is it draft day yet?
Yes he is
As a #3 guy. He is no DeSean Jackson type of burner, but DeSean is a #1 guy. Ginn is a #2.
I think he is fine there, I think we need to upgrade our #1 WR and move Crabtree into the slot as #2. I would love a V Jax as #1. Ginn is totally fine at #3, with occasionally Morgan substituting in.
i guess if you consider the #3 WR a starter, then fine.
but i wouldn’t want Ginn to be one of my top 2 WRs.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
He isn't a top 2 WR now.
Ginn is a #3 WR with Crabtree #1 and Morgan #2.
So the role that he is playing right now, is just fine for him and he fits it perfectly. He is a quality #3 WR which is who he is. I’d love another #1 WR like an VJax or such, and bump Morgan but Ginn is quality in the role he is in right now.
Poor quality, we have one guy that can get open. Ginns good for a streak and a post, oh yeah and a double move, that’s some quality alright.
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He's fine
He hardly sees the field anyways since we use so many 2WR 2TE 1RB sets.
Is it draft day yet?
No, we use those sets because they put our best players on the field
Crabs + Morgan (the best blocker), VD and Delanie, and Gore. If we want a 4WR set it’s probably better to motion VD wide, or even Westbrook.
Is it draft day yet?
A speedy poor route running te, with average hands, is not a Superstar. He’s a stud, and a WR that demands a double team or annihilate single coverage is not on this roster.
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I'm not happy with the WR corp
but I’m not sure that’s our highest priority in the draft.
PS: Plaxico Buress could teach Crabtree how to be a diva who catches balls over the middle.
by asmithisaverage on Jan 18, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
And not only that
but how to carry a gun in his sweatpants too.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I don't like drafting WR
Doesn’t seem like a huge need for me.
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I love Boise players
But I would prefer Marecic
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i found the bottom of the thread?
no, that can’t be right.
i’m hallucinating.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Jalil Brown footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84WC_f_3Ip4
anyone know where he might be drafted?
i’m guessing not very high, based on that video…
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Last I checked Walterfootball he had him going in the 3rd round
I the 49ers taking him 2nd round in my mock. Then again I do have a players going a bit early. I know it looks bad, but I’m excluding trades in my mock.
1.QB Pat Devlin 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
that seems too high
based on the video i posted. his coverage and tackling skills both seem to be piss poor.
i don’t see how he can be anything more than a late round pick drafted for upside.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
off base comment
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
of course it was an off base comment.
he’s a shortstop. he’s not supposed to be on base.
;-)
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Strike two
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LOL
Thanks t3w
Drew, how is it off base? Dude has a horrible wind up. I don’t like the guy. It’s like drafted a Tim Tebow without the intagibles that are off the charts.
Is he athletic and accurate? Would Harbaugh draft a short QB? Oh wait, yeah you get it. I think Harbaugh will take him.
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Yes he is those things
But I think you are missing the baseball wind up. I’m not saying he is short, but that he throws like a SS in baseball.
He is like Tebow without the off the chart intangibles.
A shortstop as in a baseball player
He throws like a shortstop in baseball. Watch him throw.
He used to be a pretty good baseball player and still throws like that.
Ok, makes sense now
Kaepernick wasn’t fitting into 5’8" Dominican hitting in the 8th spot profile.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Yeah nothing having to do with his size
He throws just like I used to throw a ball when I played shortstop.
It’s more of a windup so you can get some heat on the ball. He really cocks back. Once he decides to throw the ball, it takes him a couple seconds to get it out of his hands then he just fires it in there.
I watched him in the bowl game and granted I was flipping channels, but I didn’t see him one time use any touch on the ball. Everything was a rocket like he was throwing to the first basemans chest.
Nope that is what he was doing
I watched the game. He’s probably the only non 1st round QB I’d be interested in but the throwing motion needs some major surgery.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Pat Devlin
reportedly not looking good in 7 on 7 drills. If this continues, I’ll have to back off my Devlin in the 1st round argument, and join the Devlin in the 2nd round brigade.
1.QB Pat Devlin 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
Then you could join the Peterson/Amukamara 1st round club.
by DeathValleyCarl on Jan 18, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
pass on Amukamara
trade down and grab Harris in later first.
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by FearTheTree on Jan 18, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Verran Tucker from Cal is supposedly having a great day.
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Yes, I'm sure he's feeling great finally having some time off from Todd Haley :-)
1.QB Pat Devlin 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
DaQuan Bowers
as an OLB?
has speed and seems athletic.
I think he might be a beast at OLB?
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Involve All of SB Nation.
First time ever posting and I haven’t read all 400+ comments so forgive me. With that said once the official draft order is set why not involve all of the teams from SB Nation and create an “interactive” mock draft.
Admins could propose trades, create votes on which player to choose but ultimately the fans/members for each team website gets to make the final decision. I think it could be something new and fun. Also I get really tired of seeing a fan of one team try to mock every other teams picks when they really have no idea what any other team would pick besides their own.
Some people will hate the idea or just ignore it but I thought it was worth throwing out there if it is even possible.
We already do community mocks each year. A couple times.
And mocking the draft usually finds users from each blog to their own as well.
Keep an eye out for ours if you are interested in joining one of them.
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Mocking the Draft:
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/
they do community mocks throughout the offseason (until the draft).
eventually all the team blogs get involved, but not til after the super bowl.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
only 100 days and one hour and twenty five minutes until the real thing.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 18, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
CB's
Any chance we can get Asomugha (free agent) and then draft Peterson? If we got Asomugha I would even be ok with just getting a decent CB in later rounds (Brandon Burton).
Yes. There's a chance.
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Just me?
Is it just me or does anyone else see how signing him could change our draft in a large way? It would take away a huge pressure to draft a CB in the first round (and the top 2 could be gone before we pick! Altough if 1 was there I would still take him).
I know this is a draft post, but I would have thought his name would be all over since he would be a huge help to this team.
Picking up Asomugha would definitely open up an innovative approach to the draft
Problems are:
1.) CBA
2.) He wants to go to an immediate contender.
If by some miracle we get Asomugha, I’d like us to grab Quinn at 7 and Smith in round 2.
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Re: 2.) He wants to go to an immediate contender.
It’s not like the NFCW is a powerhouse. The Niners could very well get to the playoffs next year. Once you’re in the dance, anything is possible.
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yes, niners would be
if harbaugh does with the next niners qb what he has done with his previous two quarterback then other teams in the nfc west are not going to stand a chance.
especially if some free agent(’s) come on board, like nnamdi and tamba hali.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 18, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
May not be a CBA, so may be forced to draft first
So I still see us taking a CB fairly high, and if we do, then it will hurt Asomugha’s chances with us. However, if we somehow miss on a CB, we will put in a full court press on him.
I’m convinced he goes back to the Raiders. They are finally on the right track, and Davis has already shown he will over pay him. If not, I think the Niners are 2nd favorites IF we are even interested. I just think he wants to stay on the Best coast.
Owners are meeting now
according to NFLN
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
and...
They aren’t meeting with the NFLPA though. Hopefully Goddell is lighting a fire under their behind…
Yeah I'm hoping it's a preface...
get everyone together let them all yap and then say as a group “Ok we’re gonna talk to the Players Association”
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
I heard worst case scenario
is that the new CBA would be delayed and that both sides would agree to function under the current CBA until a new arrangement finally came to fruition.
In other words, they would keep negotiations going and keep things under the current CBA.
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Would that decision be "made"
when FA would usually open, or when the Draft would be on? I really would like to go into the draft with some FA guys under our belts.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
There is always a chance
There is a chance that I meet Katie Mcgrath and we become soulmates and live happily ever after.
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It's still very early...
But I don’t see many mock drafts out there that have Peterson available to the Niners at #7
DraftTek consensus has him at #2.
Quinn is a player more likely to be there, and would be a better pick anyways atmo
His name is Ydwin, your argument is invalid.
by microwave donut on Jan 18, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions
Quinn would certainly be an excellent pick
but not the best pick to make when Patrick Peterson is on the board and fills a huge need.
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If he is on the board
But I don’t think he will. Quinn still has some issues if you ask me. Didn’t he get suspended for a whole year and not even play football? I wonder how long it takes him to catch on to the speed in the NFL and shake the rust off.
I’d rather have a better pass rush than better DB play
His name is Ydwin, your argument is invalid.
by microwave donut on Jan 18, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Also the top 8-ish players
keep getting juggled around in the top 10 slots week by week. Some mocks have Quinn going as high as second or third and others have him going near our pick
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not to mention the qb rankings that keep changing even though there is no more college football
lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 18, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
If he is the guy I think he is
I doubt he goes 2nd or 3rd. I think he is a top 10 pick, but towards the 7-10 spot just due to missing a whole year.
Look at Bryant, considered the best WR in the draft, sat out a year, and went 24th or something like that.
someone brought up an interesting point
over at the Ravens blog.
if there’s no CBA in place when the draft rolls around, then no one can sign UDFAs.
good thing we have extra late round picks.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
and the seahducks pick up more bay area trash in tom wife beater and jaw breaker cable
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 18, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
So he gets two opportunitites a year to tape 49ers practice.
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by FearTheTree on Jan 18, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
and still lose
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 18, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
SBNation Mock Draft
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/18/1939164/2011-nfl-mock-draft-nick-fairley
has us taking Marcell Dareus. Amakamura still on the board and taken two down. So is Gabbert (just an aside). Locker doesn’t even go in the first round.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions
I'm sorry, but I would rather have Newton than Dareus.... and I am not a fan of Newton at all.
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He does seem oblivious, especially to the 49ers
I’m sure his next draft version he’ll have the 49ers selecting an OT.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
I just vomited in my mouth a little.
I would be sick to my stomach if we got Dareus. I have my serious doubts that Harbaugh would let Baalke draft him. Harbaugh may not have say-so in the 53… or the draft for that matter…. but he does have control of who plays and sits. I have a really tough time seeing that selection. It’s gonna be 1 of 3 things… QB, CB, or a trade back.
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Exactly
There’s really no point drafting a DT that early this year.
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And it gets worse Drew
Harris goes to the SeaChickens. Jimmy Smith goes to the Patriots. Trade down and get one of those guys with like an extra second(?) and then go for Locker in the second or Devlin in the 3rd (or second)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
DraftTek's draft as of the 18th
1 DE/OLB Rober Quinn
2 QB Jake Locker
3 CB Aaron Williams
4 WR Jerrell Jernigan
4 DT Sione Fua
5 RD Jeff Demps
6 DE Matt Conrath
6 FS Brett Greenwood
7 LOT D.J. Young
7 WR Greg Little
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Is Demps even coming out this year?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure. He's coming off injury.
He might be in the supplemental during the summer… but I’m not so sure if he is going to be drafted in April for sure or not.
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Have to look on YouTube for some "tape" on him
If CBS is anywhere near right he is one fast sucker. They have him as 4.26 40
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
That's him in the middle... the winner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWLgVW0BOQ
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He is that fast
he ran a 10.00 100 meter
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh
Like we really need to draft two more WR’s…
Pass rusher is obviously our #1 need… lol
2 Dlinemen? Maybe 1, but….
Greg Little lasting to the bottom of the 7th is really reality too isn’t it?
Man, I’m not gonna bad mouth them but…. wow. Hopefully it gets better later on.
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Yeah that's what I thought when I saw it...to a degree
First off I wouldn’t cry over getting Locker. Sione Fua could be good. Williams is not a bad CB. If we were to get Little in the 7th I’d be dancing a jig. Is Demps coming out this year? I know he’s fast, way fast.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
I dont think so.
But I think he can still declare for the supplemental.
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Can Luck?
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by happiergilmore on Jan 18, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I think the guys we have are plenty good.
Maybe 1 tops… but getting two is just absurd IMO
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second
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 2:27 AM PST up reply actions
I'd be ok with bringing in several undrafted guys in camp
I do think we need more talent in our WRs, but I’ll hold off on that until I see what a pass-oriented offense can bring
LOL
Bring in 6 undrafted QB’s
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It might work
people find WR really late in the draft.
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We have 0 wrs, that create a mismatch with speed size or route running.
AJ Green, although he never falls past Cincy.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 2:28 AM PST up reply actions
I think that I agree with you.
nick fairley or get de later not in the first.
I think the first has to be olb,cb,qb or wr.
de is really only needed for depth. fairley looks like a beast though and could be good for 10 years on the d-line.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Our TEs are bigger playmakers than our WR
I don’t understand why people don’t include them in the discussion of our Receiving corp?
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meh, one is like a 7 sup throw away pick
His name is Ydwin, your argument is invalid.
by microwave donut on Jan 20, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I would be very stoked with that
His name is Ydwin, your argument is invalid.
by microwave donut on Jan 19, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I like DraftTeks draft for us
I’d change the 4th pick to Titus Young or Pettis or Marecic but overall, I like the top 5 picks.
Wow that's way down here
This is to Drew about us grabbing CB, QB, or trading back. I think we look hard at Quinn here too.
I hope daquan bowers is there
he would be a beast at olb, he is big but supposed to run a fast 40 and he looks quick and agile
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
quinn is a good option
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Man I want Powe so badly
He will be such a good NT.
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Another video of Clay Nurse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6FK_fw1hi0
He is #97 so you gotta find him.
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Just wondering what are good 40 times and athletic ability for someone to be an OLB?
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it depends
you can run 4.75 40 yard and still get 15 sacks in a season
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 19, 2011 2:29 AM PST up reply actions
i don't care very much how fast my OLBs are.
they are hardly ever running full speed during a game anyway.
it’s more about how explosive they are.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
So the first 10 yards is what matters.
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more like the first two.
if you get any farther than that and still haven’t run into a blocker, then someone missed their block and you’re getting a free sack.
if you do run into a blocker (almost always the case), then your top speed is pretty much out the window. At that point it’s about your power and your moves to shed the block. It also helps if the guy trying to block you has a bad angle on you, which comes from your explosive first step.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
They don't measure that.
They only measure by 10 yards.
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In a 3-4, THE MOST IMPORTANT TRAIT is the ability to rush the passer. Coverage skills are a plus, but containing the edge in the run game and pass rush ability are 31 and #2 priorities for a 3-4 OLB.
by BustaTheRippa on Jan 19, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
That’s because Manusky ran the 3-4 ass backwards in the Nolan mold. He seemed to think dropping linebackers into coverage and playing pussyball was the right way to go.
Look at teams like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New England, the Jets, and Green bay. They all run 3-4’s that ATTACK. they all have premiere pass rushers(except NE) who can get to the quarterback. They blitz a ton and this why their the best 3-4’s in the game.
Vic Fangio is a Dom Capers diciple so he is NOT in the Mike Nolan mode of pussyball. He will want rushers, and he is going to attack and pressure the offense. This is why I strongly believe Manny Lawson will not be a 49er next season.
by BustaTheRippa on Jan 19, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Eh
49ers almost always rushed one of their LBers too. It just wasn’t Lawson. Mostly it was LaBoy or Brooks or whoever was on the opposite side of Lawson.
Not as much as Manusky should have, although to be fair, Manusky didn’t have the personnel to rush. This is why Manny needs to be let go, and we need to find a rusher in rounds 1 or 2
by BustaTheRippa on Jan 19, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
then we don't have anybody to drop back into coverage
Lawson is probably the best coverage LB in the NFL
easier to play an attacking 3-4 when you've got the personnel
NE isn’t an attacking 3-4—they’re actually more similar to the Niners’ scheme.
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conflicting reports on how Pat Devlin did in Shrine Game practice.
this one says he did good: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/14568368/nc-dt-austin-delaware-qb-devlin-shine-at-shrine-practice
this one says otherwise: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWest-Shrine-practice-review-Day-2.html
they both mention a cornerback named Justin Rogers playing well. Anyone know anything about him?
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
both articles said he was throwing strikes though….The 2nd article is right in that it will take time for Devlin to get comfortable under center.
by BustaTheRippa on Jan 19, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't like any of the 1st round projected QB's
Gabbert- Alex Smith jr. Great arm, 2 cent head, pretty inaccurate even on intermediate throws. Have no idea why this guy has 1st round hype.
Locker- All athlete. No instincts for the position. Reminds me of Drew Stanton.
Newton- Great arm, inconsistent accuracy. He’s intriguing with his athleticism and poise, but he’s not a 1st round grade.
Mallet- I actually like him, just not sure if he’s a fit with Harbaugh. He’s going to need to be in a system that runs the ball heavily and use a lot of max protection passing plays. I think he’s a 1st rounder, just not sure of #7 overall.
Our best bet is going with a corner or pass rusher in the 1st( Amukamara or Robert Quinn) and then taking a Stanzi or Devlin in round 2.
We're deep at safety...
Especially if clements (under a restructured contract) converts to safety. We’ll have a healthy C. Taylor, a much improved Reggie Smith, all of which can play if DOGO’s price is too steep. I vote for T Mays to convert to OLB. He has the tools to be better than Julian Peterson. He’s faster than every TE in the league (an argument can be made for VD), is stout enough a tackler to handle the run, and versatile enough to be a beast in disguised pass rush packages. Not to mention, he’d be do well in Nickel packages spying the QB. This frees us up to go after Nhamdi, and to sign the best CB.D-lineman available. We now have a top 5 Defense!! Use a late round pick to trade for Josh Johnson, retain T.Smith, and package picks to go after luck next year. We still compete in the west this in 11’, and we’re not over invested in sub-par players (albeit draft choices or FA’s).
Deep at safety?
Um I don’t know about that. Even with your plan, there’s neither quantity nor quality in our stable of safeties. By your count, we will only have three safeties on the team. Now that’s all good…if none of them get hurt. The problem is Curtis Taylor has a penchant for getting hurt, and thus hasn’t really had a chance to show us much. Reggie had a half year this year to start and in essence he would be a rookie because he would be starting SS and backing up FS at the same time. Now Clements, he’s our best DB, but he would still be transitioning from CB to FS. It should be fairly simple, but we still have only one player backing him up. So by your count we would only have three safeties and converting our player with arguably the most potential at safety into an OLB. We are anything BUT deep at the safety position. The only positions we’re deep at, are LB and probably TE. First time FS paired with a SS with little experience and both of them backed by only an extremely inexperienced Safety who has a knack for getting injured? That’s just tempting fate my friend.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Correct...
when only considering our current roster. This dream, was predicated upon the notion that we’d draft a top CB with our 1st rd pick, and pursue a veteran CB via FA. As is, you’re absolutely correct, our current secondary is slim with proven players.
Well...someone had to say it.

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