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East-West Shrine Game 2011 Open Thread

ARLINGTON TX - JANUARY 07:  Terrence Toliver #80 of the Louisiana State University Tigers celebrates after defeating the Texas A&M Aggies 41-24 in the AT&T Cotton Bowl at Cowboys Stadium on January 7 2011 in Arlington Texas.  (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)

The very first Shrine Game took place in 1925. This will be the 86th game in history to be played. The West Team leads the series at 45-35-5. A majority of these games have taken place in the Northern California Bay Area; either San Francisco or Palo Alto most of the time. In 2006, they relocated to Texas and last year the game was moved to Orlando, Florida which is where this afternoon's game will take place.

Each year talented players are invited to this event. And each year players are able to boost their draft stock up a few slots. On the other side of that, players that are hyped a bit more than their capacity fall flat decreasing where they may be drafted. There will still be the NFL Combine for most of these guys as well. So even if some of them have a sub-par performance today, it's still possible for them to regain some ground at the NFL Combine and, or their respective pro days. One thing is certain, there will be players on both sides of that spectrum this afternoon.

Most fans that will be watching are either die-hard NCAA football fanatics and this will be, besides the Senior Bowl, the last time to watch some of their favorite college players. Some of them may also be watching because they want to see who potentially could be on their favorite pro teams roster come April. There are also some, like myself, that will be watching for both reasons.

Several NFL Teams will be in search of a quarterback to resurrect their franchises. And several pro scouts will either be in attendance or watching the game extremely closely on their televisions. They will be paying attention to detail. The mechanics, fundamentals, and just sheer on field presence will be looked at under a microscope.

The guys who will be playing in this game will without question have the adrenaline flowing. This is a huge opportunity for a lot of them. Particularly the guys who have not received a ton of the mainstream media hype.

After the jump, I will list each roster followed up with a watch list of players that will carry the most intrigue.

Star-divide

East Team
Coach: Dan Reeves

#NamePos.College
85 Kyle Adams TE Purdue
95 Pierre Allen DE Nebraska
77 David Arkin OG Missouri State
99 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
6 Perry Baker WR Fairmont State
72 Ryan Bartholomew C Syracuse
70 JC Brignone C Mississippi State
71 Bryant Browning OG Ohio State
14 Mario Butler CB Georgia Tech
34 Wes Byrum K Auburn
12 Delone Carter RB Syracuse
28 Graig Cooper RB Miami
51 Akem Dent ILB Georgia
17 Patrick Devlin QB Delaware
4 Ricky Dobbs QB Navy
19 Ryan Donahue P Iowa
82 Charles Gantt TE Michigan State
43 Eric Gordon SS Michigan State
61 Christian Hairston OT Clemson
7 Jermale Hines SS Ohio State
32 Douglas Hogue OLB Syracuse
66 Randall Hunt OG Illinois
81 Lestar Jean WR Florida Atlantic
31 Brian Lainhart FS Kent State
33 Scott Lutrus ILB Connecticut
94 Gregory Lyoyd II ILB Connecticut
83 Cliff Matthews DE South Carolina
97 Terrell McClain DT USF
44 Josh McNary OLB Army
49 Bruce Miller DE UCF
3 Jonathan Nelson SS Oklahoma
86 Olong Ogbu DT Penn State
9 Martin Parker DT Richmond
76 Jah Reid OT UCF
16 Justin Rogers CB Richmond
36 Brian Rolle OLB Ohio State
22 Evan Royster RB Penn State
48 Anthony Sherman FB Connecticut
10 Cecil Shorts WR Mt. Union
2 David Sims SS Iowa State
13 Greg Smith TE Texas
65 Mike Smith OT Nebraska
5 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech
15 Josh Thomas CB Buffalo
80 Terrence Toliver WR LSU
84 Justin Trattou DE Florida
1 Terrence Turner WR Indiana
21 Demarcus Van Dyke CB Miami
78 Beau Warren Center Virginia Tech

 

West Team
Coach: Wade Phillips

 

#NamePos.College
14 Cortez Allen CB Citadel
95 Dan Bailey PK Oklahoma State
88 Brandon Bair DT Oregon
77 Joseph Barksdale OT LSU
42 Nicholas Bellore ILB Central Michigan
80 Armon Binns WR Cincinnati
84 Jordan Cameron TE USC
43 Chris Carter OLB Fresno State
85 David Carter DT UCLA
47 Patrick DiMarco FB South Carolina
44 Ricky Elmore DE Arizona
10 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho
78 Adam Grant OT Arizona
25 Alex Green RB Hawaii
86 Virgil Green II TE Nevada
38 Trevor Hankins P Arizona State
69 Andrew Jackson OG Fresno State
54 Ben Jacobs ILB Fresno State
22 Jeron Johnson SS Boise State
1 Jerrod Johnson QB Texas A&M
13 Shiloh Keo SS Idaho
36 Karl Klug DE Iowa
82 Ted Laurent DT Mississippi
41 Orie Lemon ILB Oklahoma State
50 Laupepa Letuli OT Hawaii
21 Korey Lindsey CB Southern Illinois
60 Alex Linnenkohl C Oregon State
23 Jeffrey Maehl WR Oregon
55 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada
18 Michael Mohamed ILB California
83 OJ Murdock WR Ft. Hays State
66 Matthew O'Donnell OT Queens, Ontario
45 Cheta Ozougwu DE Rice
3 Anthony Parker WR Calgary
74 William Rackley C Lehigh
24 Andrew Rich SAF BYU
20 Aldrick Robinson WR Southern Methodist University
72 Caleb Schlauderaff OG Utah
31 Da'rel Scott RB Maryland
33 Justin Taplin-Ross SS Utah
35 Vai Taua RB Nevada
81 Julius Thomas TE Portland State
7 Brandyn Thompson CB Boise State
16 Scott Tolzien QB Wisconsin
19 Winston Venable OLB Boise State
2 Darrin Walls CB Notre Dame
8 Ryan Whalen WR Stanford
96 Ian Williams DT Notre Dame
9 Nate Williams SS Washington
51 Zachary Williams OG Washington State
98 Ryan Winterswke DE Boise State

 

 

EAST PLAYERS TO WATCH:

#99 Marvin Austin -- UNC -- DE

#14 Mario Butler -- GEORGIA TECH -- CB

#51 Akeem Dent -- GEORGIA -- ILB

#17 Patrick Devlin -- DELAWARE -- QB

#7 Jermale Hines -- OHIO STATE -- SS

#31 Brian Lainhart -- KENT STATE -- FS

#83 Cliff Matthews -- S. CAROLINA -- DE

#86 Olong Ogbu -- PENN STATE -- DT

#10 Cecil Shorts -- MT. UNION -- WR

#5 Tyrod Taylor -- VIRGINIA TECH -- QB

#22 Evan Royster -- PENN STATE -- RB

#80 Terrence Toliver -- LSU -- WR

 

WEST PLAYERS TO WATCH:

#14 Cortez Allen -- CITADEL -- CB

#77 Joseph Barksdale -- LSU -- OT/ OG

#80 Armon Binns - CINCINNATI -- WR

#44 Chris Carter -- FRESNO STATE -- OLB

#10 Nathan Enderle -- IDAHO -- QB

#22 Jeron Johnson -- BOISE STATE -- SS

#55 Dontay Moch -- NEVADA -- OLB

#7 Brandyn Thompson -- BOISE STATE -- CB

#16 Scott Tolzien -- WISCONSIN -- QB

#19 Winston Venable -- BOISE STATE -- OLB

#8 Ryan Whalen -- STANFORD -- WR

#9 Nate Williams -- WASHINGTON -- SS

#23 Jefferey Maehl -- OREGON -- WR

 

FINAL THOUGHTS: Out of both of these "watch" list, I am sure there will be a player or two that was left off. Just about every year, a guy or two that hasn't gotten the attention he deserved because he played at a smaller school, will emerge in today's spotlight. It should be a fun filled game with lots of action. There has only been a handful of games out of the 85 that have been played before this that have not been very high scoring. Either way, scoring or not, I hope to see more than all the punters showcasing their talents.

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Winston Venable

Will Venable’s younger bro, Max Venable’s kids. Both from SR high, as you well know.

Super Bowl XXIV: 49ers 55 - Broncos 10

by bonbrillio on Jan 22, 2011 12:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Alex Smith still sucks

holy crap if he stays….

Is there anyway to buy stock in trolling?

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

Trolling Default Swap?

"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8

by Young_To_Rice on Jan 22, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

i love that observation

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

What time does it start?

"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."

by Blank x2 on Jan 22, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Can't see Wade Phillips beating Dan Reeves.

Plus the East’s roster looks a bit better today… guess we will see now though.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

agreed

at least its better than the pro bowl

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I found a link woohoo

too bad it sucks

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Quick turnover and score by the east

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

The stadium looks packed

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

50% of it is scouts and coaches

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the other 50% family?

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok , i dont due College football , whom am i looking for as a potenial Niner ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Jan 22, 2011 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Devlin

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Blue team Qb , yes ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Jan 22, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

East QB

I think

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I need Little more than that , Red or Blue...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Jan 22, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Red

"[...] coordinator Bud Foster has never had problems filling holes."

by Cruithear on Jan 22, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

6'10'' wtf

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

I'm hooked on phonics

with an “F”

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

What did you guys think of Tyrod?

I’ve watched him all season, and I see him through maroon and orange glasses.

"[...] coordinator Bud Foster has never had problems filling holes."

by Cruithear on Jan 22, 2011 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

He did ok.

Nothing eye-popping though.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a better representation of his skills

Would be the throw during the Stanford game where he fired a bullet as he went out of bounds to Jarrett Boykin in the endzone (catch stolen by David Wilson, but it was still a touchdown).

He just has great vision on the run.

"[...] coordinator Bud Foster has never had problems filling holes."

by Cruithear on Jan 22, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

ARGOS

L'eggo my Eggo.

All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. ~Gordie Howe

by happiergilmore on Jan 22, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Tolzien is getting chewed up

no blocking…poor guy.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

I liked Mayock's take on Kaepernick and Dalton.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

Haha

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't Boise always develop decent CB?

How is Johnson

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

He was the leading tackler on the team last year.

But he is a safety, not a CB. Brandyn Thompson is the CB.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

How is Thompson then?

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than Tarell Brown?

No he is pretty good… he has some potential.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't know Ninjames was from Canada

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

he is?

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No, lol.

He is just big like that guy. When you have to explain a joke, it doesn’t really work as good.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

oh

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

So-so.

He didn’t get much playing time.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He has looked inaccurate

which is strange. I’m sure it’s a timing thing but he looks like a deer in headlights the little I have seen him.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that he is a film rat

I am sure he has an incredible work ethic too

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah... he is out of his comfort zone

Not used to WR’s and blocking and all that. 1 week is not a ton of time to get used to your team.

Not making excuses, but it does play a part in these types of games.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Hesitant

I think that’s the thing that got me the most. Indecisive QBs don’t succeed in the NFL.

That’s my big concern from what I have seen. And honestly, he doesn’t seem like he has a very strong arm. He has made some throws but they seem to get there very slowly.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a big fan of his...

But he’s definitely out of his comfort zone.. just makes it worse for him that he’s not getting many throws either.. lots of handoffs.

by Ougadas on Jan 22, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Only played a couple of series

Seemed like he only threw the ball 3 or 4 times, all 5 yard passes minus the one. He should play again in the second half seeing all three QB’s got time in the first half.

In Jed We Trust?

by jonesin25 on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

First impression

The defensive lines on both sides are way better than the offensive lines. Even with vanilla defenses a lot of the d line players are getting wherever they want to on the field.

by OkayJay81 on Jan 22, 2011 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

Nice throw by Enderle

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

Great what the Shriners do

but those hats never fail to scare the living daylight out of me

by Nicoyas on Jan 22, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

It screams more child molester, as opposed to child care.

In Jed We Trust?

by jonesin25 on Jan 22, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the Dlinemen was lined up offsides

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Do only seniors play in this game?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 22, 2011 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone see that block by terrence tolliver

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 22, 2011 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

does not have to

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 22, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Mmmmm, pizza

Anyone ever have Lou Malnatti’s or Gino’s deep dish out in chicago? Incredible!

by Nicoyas on Jan 22, 2011 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

papa johns or little ceasars

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 22, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Gino’s, yes. I thought that people talk it up better than is. It’s a very good pizza, however.

by MinerNiner on Jan 22, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This game sucks

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

oooh there was Devlin....

now THAT was a NFL handoff….first rounder maybe? lol

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

He has struggled this game.

I was ready to ride his coattails to the Super Bowl and now I know why he is a 3rd rounder.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Barksdale would be a steal in the 3rd.

He would give Anthony Davis a run for his money over there.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

Lets see how he shakes it off

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure we have scouts there

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Baalke is there

If he is there, I’m sure there are others. Devlin screamed 3rd rounder to me today. He looks hesitant.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats prob where he will be slotted

but if the 49ers want him, I would not be mad if we took him at 45.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be mad per se

I think it depends on who we get with first pick. If we go Quinn for instance, I’d be a little concerned with Devlin at 45 even though he is needed. Only reason is because I really want to come out of this draft with a starting DB.

I’d like a Quinn, Jimmy Smith, Devlin draft if we could. Or something similar.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying he will be picked before our 2nd round pick...

but it’s one of those situations where you don’t want him to do too well here and at the combine because IF the Niners wanted him, you wouldn’t want some other team sniping him before they could get a chance

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Devlin sucks... he can be a 7th round pick if any

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect ___?__ to be super so soon. Alex Smith is no longer expected to do much for this team in the future... on to the next one!!

by bayboy on Jan 22, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't wait to see Dalton and Kaeprnick nest week.

We will see how much working with P. Manning will have helped either, if any at all.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

Don’t think one week does much, but I don’t get your love for Kaepernick. I HATE his throwing motion.

He is a 5th rounder at best.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

No way. You are off.

He will go 3rd… no later than 4th. Someone like the Raiders could love him in the 2nd even.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Man I get he has all the physical tools

I just hate the windup. He is a QB, so he will probably go sooner than 5th, but for me, anything higher than a 5th rounder for a developmental QB scares me. He is a Nate Davis. Smarter obviously, but is very raw. Kaepernick has 3 years easy of holding a clipboard and developing, that’s not a 2nd rounder even for the Raiders.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Key word YOU.

It’s not nearly as bad as you are making out to be. He gets the ball out quick and with velocity… yes, both. Quick and velocity.

Nate Davis? Really? Now I know you are full of it.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he is raw.

I never said I was talking for anyone other than myself. When you talk, it’s coming as your opinion. When I talk, it’s my opinion. I think that’s pretty obvious don’t you think?

You don’t have to get defensive when someone talks bad about your man crush. I just happen to disagree with you. I don’t think you are full of it. I just don’t see what you see in him. He has a cannon that’s for sure, but quick is not something I have noticed. I watched him wind up a LOT. In their bowl game he had all day in the pocket, and he had a windup worse than Tebow. Kaepernick stepped into every single one of his throws, which is baseball throw with his windup. What happens when he gets pressure in his face?

Listen, I like the guy, but are you telling me he starts in his first year? 2nd? 3rd? If it’s his 3rd or 4th (I think it’s his 4th year), that’s a 5th rounder. When I talk about Nate Davis, I am not comparing their talents, just how raw they are, and Davis when we took him, wasn’t going to see the field for 3 years. I think Kaepernick is the same thing, he won’t see starting for 3-4 years IF he ever does. In the first 3 rounds, we should be looking at a QB that could step in and start the FIRST year. No way Kaepernick does.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Had Kaepernick played for a Texas, or a Ohio State, etc... he would be regarded higher.

Higher than a Vince Young or somebody of that nature.

He, to me… by look at his tangibles and nothing else can be better than VY… and faster than what you are giving him credit for.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

So when do you think he starts though?

Like honestly? I just don’t see him starting for 3+ years, and if that’s the case, he is 5th round material. At best 4th round because of his upside. I just think a QB you take in 1st two rounds should be able to start immediately, and in 3rd round should be able to start after a year.

I don’t doubt he has upside, or that he isn’t fast (I’ve never said anything about his speed), I just think he has a long way to go.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't care either way....

but just because you don’t start right away at QB, doesn’t mean you are limited to only being a 5th or worse, Aaron Rodgers is one example, he was a FIRST rounder and didn’t start right away

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Cmon

They had Brett Favre.

We have nobody. You don’t use a 3rd rounder for a guy that is a developmental QB. How can you compare Rodgers sitting to Kaepernick? Kaepernick has to completely relearn how to throw the ball. Rodgers probably could have stepped in after year one.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn't have to relearn at all.

AGAIN… it does NOT COME OUT SLOW….

repeat after me…

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww” "

it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow" … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

“it …does…not… come ….out ,,,,slow” … “The …ball does …not come …out …slowwww”

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I do that

It's Whore-baugh, remember?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it work?

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You are crazy if you think he doesn't have to relearn.

He throws like Tebow. He drops it down around his hip and winds up.

If Tebow had to relearn, then he will. Maybe you need to watch some more film with him. He throws the ball hard, but from when he decides to throw the ball, to when he throws it, it takes a while.

He throws like a shortstop, vs. a 2nd baseman. A 2B throws from his ear and makes a quick throw where the SS winds up more. QBs throw more like a 2nd baseman from their ear. Kaepernick winds up.

Repeat after me…

KAEPERNICK HAS A WINDUP, GOOD QBS DO NOT
KAEPERNICK HAS A WINDUP, GOOD QBS DO NOT
KAEPERNICK HAS A WINDUP, GOOD QBS DO NOT.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

have you seen David Carrs throwing motion?

He shot-puts that thing and he was a FIRST OVERALL pick lol

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Wth are you seeing? I have not once seen him drop around his hip for a throw> He throws a bit side arm but so did Elway, so does VY, so did Marino, Kosar, etc…

I dont deny that he has problems in his mechanics but you are WAY over-exaggerating.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 23, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Well the supposed plan IS to get a vet to come in and play right now, instead of a rookie

and i am not saying they draft him either…look at last year, the Panthers took TWO QB’s before the 5th, with intending on having Moore start

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

that guy sucks

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

you suck! :)

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

the time it took me to respond to this

= time it takes for him to get rid of the football

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 23, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

clever, funny, I actually almost laughed...

…but I didn’t.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 23, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

clever, funny, I actually almost laughed...

…but I didn’t.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 23, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

let it be...

this guy obviously has a deep draft/ man crush on Kaepernick. LOL

Favre will end his messy NFL career with a lawsuit with former JET's massage therapists. I guess Brett's career won't include a happy ending... :)

by Giants49war on Jan 23, 2011 3:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Locker or Devlin?

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

Locker

I think it’s obvious Locker is the better pick, but 7th pick is pretty early.

If it’s a 2nd rounder for Devlin, or 1st for Locker, then Locker hands down.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd still rather give Harbaugh the guy with more raw talent

It’s not my pick, always tell myself that.

It's Whore-baugh, remember?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel ya

I think Locker has the most upside if he can learn to set his feet. I think it affects his accuracy. I know his WR struggle with catching the ball, but Locker can get happy feet sometimes and he needs to learn how to move within the pocket and planting his feet instead of just taking off.

Devlin is limited I think, Locker can be legit.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Locker throws off his back foot a ton.

Devlin doesn’t. That doesn’t fly in the NFL. Not saying it cannot be corrected, but as far as raw talent goes… its real tough to gauge which of the two is better in that regard. Locker is more athletic, there’s no doubt about that, but Devlin is a better pure passer.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Locker is a QB version of Tebow

I think he will be just fine. Footwork can be corrected. I think Locker throws on the run, off his back foot, falling back, etc…too often because of his OL. I know we disagree with how good they are, but I think he has fallen into bad habits due to no time in the pocket.

I am curious how he does at the combine and his pro day. I want to see how accurate he is with his feet set. I think if he can get some time, he can be good. I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest to see us do a CB with first pick, and if Locker falls into the late teens to see us jump up and get him.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh God... the Oline argument again... geez.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that why Locker's ball goes high?

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It is in Green Bay too. Aaron Rodgers handles it just fine.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

One more...

John Elway… Mile High…. Cold… Etc..

HOFer

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Devlin didn't have a good performance today

So far he’s been a pain in the butt to judge.

It's Whore-baugh, remember?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah definitely....

of course games like these it is extremely difficult to judge anyone….i do remember Devlins gusty performance when he was still with PSU against Ohio State that gave the team the win

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He got a serious case of the early Steve Young’s. He decides to pull the ball down and run way to early and often.

It's Whore-baugh, remember?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that may get him killed in the NFL

Of course, I think I am more thinking of Christian Ponder the more I think about it lol

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Biggest choker in college football?

Why? He has choked in every critical situation he has had to face throughout his collegiate career.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Locker has missed a few games here and there but not an injury risk.

Alex Smith is the only 49er QB to take every snap in a full season, 2007 or was it 2006…his second year.

by ericalancanty on Jan 22, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Who's watching Winners Bracket?

Who else thinks its not as good w/o Michelle?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison

"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin

by mikeinsp on Jan 22, 2011 3:48 PM PST reply actions  

Jerrod Johnson clearly doesn't have it...

I only caught the last of Enderle’s performance… it’s late here in Scandinavia…

Anyone get impressed by him?

by Ougadas on Jan 22, 2011 3:48 PM PST reply actions  

He has the tangibles: height, arm and athleticism. I thought his passes were accurate. He still needs a lot work causes it obvious he doesn’t know how to play the position. A few years on the bench I can see developing into a backup QB who can stick in the league.

It's Whore-baugh, remember?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

So what's the score?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison

"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin

by mikeinsp on Jan 22, 2011 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

wierd score

what channel is it on

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison

"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin

by mikeinsp on Jan 22, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

NFL Network

It's Whore-baugh, remember?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Touchdowns are worth 19 in the Shrine Game and safeties are worth 8.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Bair from Oregon is a nice prospect.

Also from Oregon is Maehl. He catches everything and is a true slot WR. Wes Welker type player. Too many runs this game, not enough passing to really assess the QB’s.

by ericalancanty on Jan 22, 2011 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

FINALLY some scoring....

i started watching at the beginning of the 2nd half, and have been bored as heck

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 22, 2011 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

Marvin Austin

Doesn’t have the size I’d like to see in a NT…

But I’ll be damned if he isn’t getting double teamed and still penetrating.

Wonder how he’d work out as a 3 tech….

Anyone have some opinions?

I didn’t get to see NC play much before he got suspended.

by Ougadas on Jan 22, 2011 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

haha

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It's funny you mention his name again...

I am actually re-watching the Boise State vs. Nevada stuff right now.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I wouldn't have deleted it.

I’ve learned, if you are going to tape a lot of stuff, don’t tape it in HD. lol.

Just watch how much time he had, and how he had virtually no pass rush in his face. He steps into every throw with a wind up. I didn’t see him put much touch on the ball either, everything was a rope. I think the guy has an absolute cannon, but we all know there is much more to a QB than that, otherwise Mallet goes #1.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree... Ive been watching Kaepernick for 4 years now. He posses the things that you are claiming he doesn't.

He needs to fine tune, which is why he will be a 3rd rounder. Which is why he COULD start in a year or so… maybe sooner if the guy in front of him goes down.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing I claim he doesn't have

Is a QB motion. I’ve never said he has a weak arm, I’ve never said he isn’t fast. Those you keep putting words in my mouth.

The guy has a windup, it’s as simple as that. Manning, Brady, Brees do not. Guy has to re-learn how to throw like a QB. It’s simple. That’s all I have ever said about him. He looks EXACTLY like a SS throwing to 1B.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Tebow still throws the exact same way.

It’s a small sample size but he played really, really well in the 2 games he started. I was surprised.

I learned last year not to be so naive and closed minded. If Tebow can do it, Kaepernick sure in the hell can do it.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 23, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

...

dude. Not cool

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

he'll go UFA

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jan 22, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

funny guy

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Jan 22, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Not too bad

I don’t say anyone looks really old until they look older than Al Davis.

by hudd07 on Jan 22, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Call it, "Black Saturday"

because everyone of these QB’s stocks dropping.

1.QB Pat Devlin 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor

by supraman on Jan 22, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

he's been 2nd rounded since Tuesday

I’m just too lazy to update it

1.QB Pat Devlin 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor

by supraman on Jan 22, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry coach

I have bad work ethic.

1.QB Pat Devlin 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor

by supraman on Jan 22, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyrod Taylor

Played pretty well despite the announcer putting him down for everything.

5th or 6th round till he runs a 4.4 (WR possibility after that)
I would like to see him on the Practice Squad if we go after another guy.

Here's money for a cab. Now entering sleep mode. beep beep beep zzzzzzzzz

by chriscream on Jan 22, 2011 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

yep

He’ll be like Joe Webb was last year, and he can throw pretty well.

Is it draft day yet?

by See Jay on Jan 22, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Locker stock rising?

After seeing Devlin, only Harbaugh knows if his mechanics can be corrected. Locker may be the more stable of the two, just depends on the draft order.

by wellnesscoach on Jan 22, 2011 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

Locker has higher potential as well.

I like Locker at #7 more than Devlin in the 2nd or 3rd right now.

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Pat Devlin!! lets get hiim the second round please..

"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton

by Nelow on Jan 22, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

May I ask why?

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3

by manraj7 on Jan 22, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

fail

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by Drew Kerr on Jan 23, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

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