49ers and Carson Palmer: A Potential Fit?

Due to CBA issues, I’m betting he’s retired on week 1 of the 2011 regular season.

Simply put, the Bengals have no other option and they’ll hold out hope that he’ll return if they don’t release him.

Think back to the HWSNBN saga when retiring from the Jets. The Jets still retained his rights until they formally released him and he wasn’t able to sign with another team. Same thing happened to Plumber when he retired after being traded to the Bucs. The Bengals will eventually release him, but I doubt he’s on the Niners roster come September.

I would certainly be happy if we could seal this deal though. Palmer, despite the last few down years, would be an upgrade at QB that we need.

Lol.. Seems like we have top 3 teams that’ll push for him.. Good ol nfc west lol

The Bengals won’t trade Palmer. So it looks more likely that Palmer will retire

unintelligibly foreboding in metaphorical possibilities does not warrant a write up on manners that have no bias , this blog has turned a allegory of hear-say , as owner states he will not be traded , very counterintutive in regard to cba

“The Bengals have been coming unraveled of late and I wonder if the overall situation there has affected his play.” Why are willing to consider excusing Palmer’s poor play and attribute it to the team’s chaos? No QB in the NFL has suffered through more mismanagement, incompetent coaching, and a complete lack of ability to game plan by Nolan’s or Singletary’s staffs than Alex Smith! But we don’t excuse that! If we’re going to consider circumstances for one guy shouldn’t we do the same for the other?

I am NOT a Smith-lover, but let’s at least look at the facts. In 2010 Palmer had a QB rating of 82.4; Smith 82.1. Palmer completed 61.8% of his passes; Smith 59.6%. Palmer threw for 248.1 yards/game in a balanced offense; Smith 215.5 yards/game in a run-oriented offense. Palmer threw for 30% more TDs than INTs; Smith 40%. Palmer is 31, has been seriously injured, and at 240 pounds in a statue as a passer; Smith is 26, has been relatively injury-free except for Nolan’s gross mismanagement, and has some mobility. Finally, Palmer is substantially overpaid relative to performance. Have no idea what kind of compensation level that Smith will get wherever he signs, but it certainly won’t be in Palmer territory.

So, “he (Palmer) should certainly be an upgrade over Alex Smith or David Carr.” Carr? Of course! Smith? Sorry Tre9er, I just don’t see it. Palmer is nowhere near worth what it would cost to get him.

Anyone else here concerned over Harbaugh staying behind at 49er HQ instead of attending the Senior Bowl to scout at least six draft-eligible 6 QBs?

I worried about it a little bit because I am just so tired of mediocre to very poor QB play and I am putting my faith in Harbaugh’s ability to pick a new superstar to train and ride the bench in 2011. Then I read that Harbaugh wasn’t attending the Senior Bowl and that he was leaving the door open on Alex Smith and I thought…..uh oh. This means Harbaugh is going to fall in love with Smith’s potential and not draft the QBOTF. That in turn means we suffer through more mediocre play without any QBOTF riding the bench and learning for 2012. (i.e. NO PLAN).

I took a deep breath (or two) slept on it a couple of nights, and now have come to a more rational conclusion. Now I’m thinking that:

1. Harbaugh is just leaving all options on the table in case the CBA completely screws us out of signing/trading for any upgrade veteran replacement for Smith. I mean it would be stupid to tell Smith to buzz off and then replace him with an even worse stopgap QB because of the CBA getting signed in early September and no team wanting to trade or release what they have. I don’t want JP Losman replacing Smith or something horrible like that. I sincerely doubt Harbaugh is going to fall into Singletary’s trap of believing all the marbles should rest in Smith’s hands. If anything, he’s being smart and hedging his bets while remaining confident that he could improve Smith enough to be a competent stopgap for 2011 (which I believe Harbaugh could do) while investing in a better long-term option.

2. Harbaugh is not attending the Senior Bowl because either he already feels confident enough about the QBs from his college scouting and will read Baalke’s reports, and/or he feels that he will learn more from hands-on interviews and observations at the Combine and individual pro days that the QBs will host later on in the winter. In essence, Harbaugh has so much to learn about implementing the new offensive scheme, organizing the new coaching staff, and evaluating all possible free agents (esp QBs) that the Senior Bowl is just not in the cards.

What do y’all think?

We want to trade for a guy and pay 12.5M on him, and we plan on having Anthony Davis protect him…

Ugh, NO.

Maybe she can convince him to come to 49ers. Better weather. Plamer from CA too.

Sometimes, when even Elite players demand a trade (or else), teams can get them at somewhat of a bargain. By coming out and saying that he would rather retire then play means that he most certainly will be traded, and with his salary being so high and the fact that they probably won’t be able to trade him until after the Draft when teams are trying to finalize there rosters, which means most of there salary cap will be accounted for, it will be hard for teams to justify trading for Palmer. Also, if they can’t trade unitl after a new CBA is in place and that happens after the draft, then we are talking about 2012 picks, or drafting a player the Bengals want, and trading that player in exchange for Palmer… which would probably be illegal to discuss that will the Bengals anyways.

Palmer is only 31, so theoretically, he could have maybe 3 solid seasons left, while waiting for the 49ers to draft someone this year or next year and give them ample time to develop, like Aaron Rodgers. All I know is, is that he had an awful 2010.. BUT it was still better than anything that a 49ers QB has put together in the last few years. Consider it an upgrade, even if he is stil subpar to his 2008 season.

If Palmer retires and is subsequently released by the Bengals, freeing him to sign with any team of his choosing, his previous contract doesn’t come with him. Essentially, if he retires, there’s a good chance he’ll be signing a new contract for less than he is currently making.

The problem with this is that once he retires, the Bengals risk getting no compensation and would likely trade him immediately to anyone open to taking his rights and trying to convince him to continue playing. This would lower the cost to trade for him, because even a 6th rounder is better than nothing, and could drastically reduce our chances of getting him (other teams will make a play for him).

Also keep in mind that it’s possible he renegotiates a deal with his new franchise to bring his pay scale down a bit. His agent just issued a statement that said Carson is “financially secure,” and that is why he would consider retirement if he’s not traded. Essentially, he said he’s got enough money, but wants to play for another team because the Bengals are no good for him.

He says that he is willing to retire. I admire the idea that it is not all about the money. However I do wonder, does he still really want to play? Does he have the drive to keep playing? Otherwise I think it is a great edition considering what we would have to give to get him.

since the Bengals are shown all the time here I can tell you he has never been the same since his knee injury. Prior to that he had decent mobility. Now he has none. His arm appears fine but he’s unable to get out of the way of a pass rush. I also thinkit’s gotten to his head and he’s making uncharatistic bad decisions. Palmer was an underrated quarterback early in his career but now it is sad to see how far he has fallen. He’s capable of putting together a couple of great games but over the course of the season, I don’t think so.