Official NFL Draft Thread: 1/24/11 (Continued...)
There are several topics to discuss regarding the draft, the coaching changes, and specifically the quarterback position for the 49ers in the upcoming year.
There was 950 comments or so in the last thread in only two days. I guess I am going to have to step my game up and get a new thread out a little more often. But on a serious note, it's always nice to see that many comments by fans that love their team. The concerns are there, but with the changes it seems as though some of the negative vibes that were put off by the 49ers organization were put in a casket and laid to rest with the new hirings and fresh start that seems to have been provided by the 49ers front office.
I do have to admit that I have not been thrilled with some of the decisions that Jed York has made in the past. I now realize that he is dedicated. He may not have the best experience but he is gaining it quickly. He has been making some very solid decisions as of late. And so has Jim Harbaugh.
With that said, there are still plenty of areas of concern on the Niners roster. There are some holes to fill both on defense and offense. General consensus has suggested that the two biggest areas of concern for the 49ers are at the quarterback position and in the secondary. There are a few stragglers that feel that the defensive line needs to be an immediate upgrade and high priority as well as the pass rush ... in other words, outside linebackers.
I want to open this thread up a bit differently. As Niners fans, I would love to hear what you think is the highest area of concern. And in order. Below, I will provide areas of concern and the priority that I feel that they should be in. After those priorities, I will list five players (in order again) that I feel the Niners could, or should draft. Understand that this is my opinion. My opinion is just an opinion. If you feel the need to disagree, I would appreciate a level of respect backed with legitimate and cold hard facts.
Side Note: Sometimes the discussion can get heated because of the passion of opinion. Everyone likes to feel like they're right. And nobody likes to be proven wrong. But understand that IF you are proven wrong, it should not be taken personally; sometimes there is knowledge to gain. There are a bunch of folks that have good background knowledge on these boards ... so please, should you disagree, disagree with class and make sure you understand the difference of FACT and OPINION. Let's keep it fun and civil.
Here are the priorities matched with a few players.
Priority #1 - Quarterback: The quarterback position has not been adequate for what seems like forever. There has not been a legit candidate and leader of the team since Jeff Garcia. Garcia lived in the shadow of two Hall of Famers in Joe Montana and Steve Young. When you follow guys like that, and don't possess the same surroundings, its really tough to carve out your own legacy. The question is now, will Jim Harbaugh be able to cultivate the next Steve Young ... or will it be the next Jeff Garcia? It could even potentially be the next Alex Smith if the 49ers are not careful. There is not a sure-thing-pick in this years draft at that position, so whoever is selected (and there will definitely be someone selected at that position) will be a gamble. The question is, who do we gamble on? Who is the safest pick? Well here are some ideas...
1 - Jake Locker -- Washington: Only if he is available in the 2nd Round
2 - Pat Devlin -- Delaware: 2nd/3rd Round
3 - Colin Kaepernick -- Nevada: 3rd/4th Round
4 - Andy Dalton -- TCU: 4th/5th Round
5 - Ben Chappell -- 6th/7th Round
Priority #2 - Cornerback: Some may argue that the secondary needs to be addressed before the quarterback position. In this draft, I tend to agree. Sometimes priority doesn't always equal the best pick. The cornerback position is a bit deeper this year in competition with last. There are plenty of people who are in the opinion that Patrick Peterson is the real deal and should not be overlooked if he falls to the #7 pick overall in next years draft. On the other side of that, there are a few folks that think that Prince Amukamara will be the better option. Whatever the case may be, it seems as though it would not be a bad idea to draft more than one cornerback to provide some insurance. Clements is not getting any younger and neither is Spencer. The 49ers had one of the worst secondary's in the league last year.
1 - Patrick Peterson -- LSU: 1st Round
2 - Brandon Harris -- Miami: Trade back to the end of the 1st only
3 - Jimmy Smith -- Colorado: Trade back to the end of the 1st/2nd Round
4 - Brandon Burton -- Utah: 2nd/3rd Round
5 - Aaron Williams -- Texas: 3rd/4th Round
Priority #3 - Wide Receiver: While some people may disagree here, it doesn't appear that even with the draft pick of Michael Crabtree that there is a solidified #1 at the position. That is fine sometimes ... when you are the New England Patriots or Indianapolis Colts. The 49ers need "that guy" who is going to make an immediate impact and force defenses to adjust accordingly. It doesn't help that there is not a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady throwing them the ball, but it takes two to tango... or something like that. Should the 49ers draft a premier receiver, it would with no question open things up a ton for guys like Frank Gore and Vernon Davis.
1 - A.J. Green -- Georgia: 1st Round
2 - Julio Jones -- Alabama: 1st Round
3 - Leonard Hankerson -- Miami: 2nd/3rd Round
4 - Titus Young -- Boise State: 2nd/3rd Round
5 - Vincent Brown -- San Diego State: 4th/5th Round
Wild Cards - Outside Linebacker, Defensive End, Running Back: While some may think that the first two of these wild cards may be more important than the wide receiver position, I would have to beg to differ. Consider the coaching staff and consider the players. You also have to consider the schemes and what the players are taught to do. But feel free to add your wild card priorities below. If you feel like one of these positions are more important, then please (with respect) provide your thoughts with some backing on why. Also provide some players that justify the 3rd priority and why.
P.S. Thanks for all the rec's in the last few posts... don't forget to rec this one.
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Anyone see Vincent Brown today?
Watched him during my lunch break in 1 on 1’s against the CBs/S and he looked pretty good. Good burst and got very good separation.
I have him as our 5th option there above.
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No Little?
Just wondering. And what round do you see him going?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 25, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
I really like Locker
Keep an eye on Locker his stock will only increase, I would be fine taking him at #7 and I guarantee as we approach draft day and he gets more hype all of you will too.
Depends.
If he has a horrible day on Saturday, it could go the other way too.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
True
and while McShay did have some criticism for him today mostly he had a lot of positives. He also said he had the best day of any quarterback. Locker will interview great and best mode at combine, chances his stock does anything but rise is doubtful in my opinion.
I get the feeling that he is this year's Jimmy Clausen.
I think that the Seahawks are just about the only team that may consider him as a 1st rounder. And that in large part to fan base as well as draft slot. He would be able to sit and learn behind a very smart QB in Hasselbeck
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i believe the titans will take him myself
of course thats just my personel opinion
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i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
They don't need a 1st round QB.
Kerry Collins will be good for them next year. He needs an offseason with Moss and Britt.
The Titans Dline and Linebacking corps are in dire need of some help.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
They definitely need a QB
Collins is ancient.
I wouldn’t be the slightest surprised to see Locker in the 1st round. I think he is the top QB prospect right now.
I am guaranteeing right now that the Titans will not go QB in the 1st.
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I think they will take or trade up for cam newton.
it would be like improved vince young for them.
no?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 24, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
disagree IMO
collins is 38 and i wouldnt consider rusty smith a real option at QB.
they need someone who can come in and learn from collins this year and start next year. i think locker and mallett are closest to that but locker wins out because he’s mobile.
they will get a draft pick for vince young even if it’s only a 4th rounder.
they can draft guys like LB greg jones, DT marvin austin, CB aaron williams, LB casey mathews, CB davon house, DT lawrence guy, etc in the later rounds and sport a ,uch improved defense.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with you
I think they could easily go QB. Is it a high percentage it’s QB? No because there are so many other positions they could take. But they DO need a QB pretty bad.
i think he's the 1st QB taken
but i dont think we take him or any other QB in the 1st round
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
His stock will rise
The QB position almost always flies up the draft board. I never thought he would be available at #7 once Luck went back to college.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
I think he will lock in at #7
Gabbert is getting the hype and I believe that Mallett and Newton will get it next because of their wonderful win loss record, they play in the SEC, and their cannons they want people to believe they are an arm.
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I haven't heard a lot of Ricky Stanzi talk. What does everyone think about drafting him in the 3rd or 4th round?
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Stanzi is one of those guys that I am unsure about.
He is real streaky. And was throughout his career at Iowa. He either looks like a grade A stud, or a complete bust… he almost never has just an average day.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Looked over his 2010 stats.
And he had a lot of multiple TD games, 8 out of 12 games in fact. And in the 4 games he didn’t, he still threw 1 TD. He also threw only 4 INTs in the regular season, which is good to see because he showed improvement year to year (he had a weird junior year).
And after some math, in losses Stanzi threw an average of 225.6 yards, 2.2 TDs, and .4 INTs. In wins, he threw an average of 239.4 yards, 2 TDs, and .3 INTs. That isn’t much variation.
IMO, his worst performance in the regular season was the last one against the Minnesota Golden Gophers were he went 10/22, 127 yards, 2 TDs. His best was against Ball State were he went 19/25, 288 yards, 3 TDs.
He doesn’t strike me as an elite passer, but he’s capable. I’d put his ceiling at maybe a slightly more productive Kyle Orton. Which would be a steal in the 3rd round.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 24, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe from a statistical stand point things look okay.
But watching him play, he was definitely streaky in decision making. He has problems going through reads at times too.
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Im from Iowa, the strength was the running game, they have a rb surplus. put the game in Stanzis hands, you lose.
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Yeah
And their O-line ain’t bad either.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Their lines in general are pretty good.
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i wouldn't take Stanzi that high.
but he is an intriguing late round prospect if he is there in the 5th or 6th.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Ricky Stanzi is dirt
He is the most unclutch Quarterback ever! On paper he may look decent but put him in any situation where you need a winner or someone to make a play when there isn’t one and he NEVER WILL.
Imagine the exact opposite of Joe Cool.
Really?
I get why you would think that based off of this season, which was anti-climactic to say the least. but you just have to go back to the year prior to see him being clutch in several comeback wins. Nothing is ever black and white, you just need to do a little bit of research before making asinine statements.
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3 rookie qb's I think the Niners can be successful with...in order.
1. Pat Devlin
2. Jake Locker
3. Greg Mcelroy
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 24, 2011 4:28 PM PST reply actions
+1
i’ll second this. these are the 3 QB’s i think fit the team best
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im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
The only thing that worries me is Lockers accuracy...
which is a big thing. He seems to have the intangibles though, and I think Harbaugh could work with him to improve his decision making skills. I think McElroy and Devlin don’t have the same arm as Locker, but in the WCO that really means nothing. I think Devlin will come out as the best qb out of this draft. McElroy came from a great team, which is why I put him third. But his accuracy is through the roof and he only threw picks in 4 games this year. I guess in the end, these are the qb’s i trust to not be busts.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 24, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
the right coaching staff can
push a player past his expected ceiling sometimes. look at what was done with matt cassell
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Thats exactly why I still Think that Locker could surprise a lot of people...
People have been really down on him, but I think with the right team he could succeed. I think he is as good as Sanchez coming out of college. With a good running game and short timed passes he would have every chance at success.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 24, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
His accuracy isn't that bad. The WR dropped 41 passes this year that hit them on their hands. Luck had 17.
If adjusted to the same Locker would have about 61-62 completion percentage.
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by manraj7 on Jan 24, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Locker Accuracy
Todd Mcshay on Locker’s Accuracy
Needs to learn to put some more air under some of his deep balls. But overall accuracy is very good, especially considering how many times he is unable to follow through on throws due to pressure. He shows good touch on dump offs, flares, etc. Outstanding timing on comeback throws and is not afraid to lead the receiver back to the ball. Deep out accuracy and zip is excellent, as are accuracy on curl routes and square ins.
Gave him a 2 overall which means Above Average. 1’s are very hardly given out and represent essentially elite. 2 is a great score in terms of accuracy.
Keep in mind that a lot of Locker’s incompletions are because he is being rushed or his WR’s drop passes. And yes his WR’s have (if I remember correctly) almost 3 times as many dropped passes that hit there hands than I believe it was Andrew Luck.
While I do believe excuses are just that excuses and an elite quarterback will throw a team on his shoulders and make up for their flaws this definitely is worth noting for the whole Locker ordeal. Under the right tutelage Locker will be fantastic. I do not think he makes it past the #15 pick in the draft.
Not going past the Skins.
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by manraj7 on Jan 24, 2011 7:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
did you have those rules for drafting qb's?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 24, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
This is pretty much the exact way I'd evaluate Locker
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
You really think that Devlin is better than Locker?
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I think devlin might be a better fit in the WCO than Locker
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 24, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
from what one of the guys on Nfl network was saying
he doesn’t have the strongest arm in the draft but hes suppose to be pretty accurate. Im not a college football person so I could be completely wrong, but they pointed out that Locker had all the tools but his accuracy and decision making were a problem at times. I forgot one of the commentators names but from what I remember he’s very intelligent about football and does his research thoroughly.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 24, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
thank you, that was the guy i was thinking about
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Locker doesn't get a chance to set his feet
go through his reads, make a decision, fire the ball and follow through.
He gets – Drop back, look at 1 read, is it there?, No – Run Yes – fire the ball as fast as possible and prepare to get hit. Hopefully the receiver catches it this time.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Well sometimes he gets hit when he is dropping back.
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true
At least he’d feel right at home on the Niners
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Our line isn't that bad
he would get more time behind our line.
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Now he would... Hopefully
But he still has to worry about our RT whiffing a block
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
i really think devlin is going to be a solid NFL QB
the more i read about him and watch film, the more i like him
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
I really liked seeing Titus Young out there today...his speed + hands are a winning combination.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM PST reply actions
I agree
I hadn’t seen much of him, but his hands and routes during 1 on 1’s were impressive
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If Titus Young does well in the Senior Bowl ...and... the Combine...
he could wind up being selected as a late first rounder.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Think what you want.
I can’t wait until draft weekend. You make the most asinine comments sometimes. Like what I am saying is impossible? Ridiculous… “Oh brother” ??? Oh brother what?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I said...
HE COULD sneak in to the 1st round… like, it’s a possibility.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Well anything is a possibility
He COULD be the #1 pick too. I don’t like to throw that stuff out there because it’s crazy. He is most likely a 3rd rounder and that’s me softening from my stance of him in 4th.
Lol, okay strawman.
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well, alex smith was a number one pick.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Titus Young very realistically could be a middle 2nd rounder
1st rounder is unlikely but not impossible.
Tebow went in the 1st round.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh brother where art thou
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whats his projected draft round?
i havent seen him listen in the few mock drafts ive looked at. of course i havent seen any drafts ive agreed with so they might not have anythign close anyways
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Right now its about the 3rd.
But I think it’s going to go up a bunch of slots throughout the off-season process leading up to the draft.
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He didn't make it?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Nevermind.
Maybe you meant to put an =
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Linebacker Tamba Hali and rookie safety Eric Berry were added to the teams late Sunday after the Super Bowl teams were decided.
Berry, the Chiefs’ top pick in last year’s draft, had four interceptions and 126 total tackles last season. He’s the first Chiefs rookie to reach the Pro Bowl since Derrick Thomas after the 1989 season.
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Drew , i don't do college football , but i alway's like one player or two ...
… last it was Toby G and Shipley , this year Casey Mathew’s and that’s it for me , could you tell me what round he’s projected and where he’s likely to go , thank’s …!!
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2nd/ 3rd Round
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Thank's , kewl we need to trade back and get extra pick's to ensure we get this cat ...!!
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QB Draft weak
The general consensus seems to indicate there is not a “ringer” in this years QB draft class. If that is the case, especially while considering that none of the aforementioned potential QB draftes will be starting this season, why not go after a veteran (which we will anyways), or re-sign Alex Smith and then package this years 1st Rd pick with another pick for next season and trade for Carolinas 1st Rd pick next year and draft Andrew Luck in 2012 ….. looking around the league, I think the Panthers will be equally hapless next year too
If there was a "ringer" the 49ers would have no chance at drafting him at #7
Everyone is always telling me how Aaron Rodgers wasn’t a “ringer”. I know Big Ben wasn’t a “ringer” either.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Id agree
If he didn’t always have a top 3 defense and sensational OL. Troy P is more important than Ben.
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terrible plan.
trading for a specific team’s pick, assuming it will be first overall?
remember when the Bills were a lock to have the first pick in THIS draft? that was 3 months ago. you certainly can’t predict these things a full year in advance.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Locker is the only QB I would use with my first rounder
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I like Locker
I like him as much as I like Quinn. It goes
Peterson
Locker/Quinn
Prince
It all depends on his senior bowl. If he plays well I would take him before Quinn if not it would be Quinn first.
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Haha, okay you like Locker, for whatever reason. My question is why pick a qb when there isn’t much to choose from? The best qb in this draft is a project qb that won’t play next season. Bot worth a top ten pick.
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He would start right now
I’m pretty sure he is better than Carr.
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is carr going to be a niner next year?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
locker?
he is having problems at the senior bowl?
some scouts say that he is having problems throwing from the pocket?
sounds like troy smith part two?
and
it should be
da quan bowers
quin
peterson
prince
kaepernick
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Missed today's Senior Bowl? Here are some notes.
http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/24/senior-bowl-day-1-north-squad-practice-notes/
And guess who is leading ST. Is that my favorite FB why yes, yes it is.
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About the pick for Jake Locker it was a miscommunication with the WR.
The WR cut back while Locker threw it deep.
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Jake Locker of Washington was the only quarterback to throw a pick at today’s practice. He was inconsistent with his throws and was really sailing the ball in 7-on-7 drills. It may be due to early week jitters, but it will be something to watch as the week goes on. Locker … definitely did not look like a first round quarterback.
from the link. sounds like he was throwing high.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 24, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm looking for the actual film of it.
So give me a day or two to locate a source.
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good link
In the pit, offensive and defensive linemen squared off. Cameron Jordan was incredibly impressive. He showed quick hands and at one point had his way with one of the top offensive linemen in this year’s draft class, Anthony Costanzo. Jordan also showed that he is not a one-trick pony as he bull rushed Costanzo into the backfield on the very next rep. Costanzo redeemed himself later in the practice by stoning Jeremy Beal of Oklahoma. Iowa’s Christian Ballard was the next most impressive player along the defensive lineman. He and Jordan won virtually every snap.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 24, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Blaine Gabbert vs Nebraska
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97tXjeH861E
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Well
watching a bit of that game, a couple things jumped out to me. Missuri’s offensive line was horrendous against Nebraska. However, it did appear that once protection broke down Gabbert resorted to happy feet (something we have seen to much from Alex Smith). He didn’t look for checkdowns, and if the first read wasn’t available Gabbert tucked and ran with the ball. Considering that Missouri was pretty much a one read offense, you can’t really blame Gabbert for that. It was the happy feet that bothered me the most. However, i still do believe he should be considered the best QB in a real poor class. All of the QBs coming out this season are going to be projects. Some may be more ready than others (Locker), but others may have higher ceilings (Gabbert).
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 24, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
All lines are horrendous against Nebraska
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Another awesome post by the guys at MTD.
I love these guys. The link kind of gives away what the post is about.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/1/25/1954686/if-you-want-to-know-who-your-team-is-targeting
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Excellent link
Based on my own little research project last season teams really are interested in the players they scout and contact. These little reports are excellent tips and draft insight.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
jake locker? noooooooooooooooo
not in the first.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 24, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
the Niners are interested in a Cal player?
the dark days are over‼ hooray‼
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
The 49ers will most likely have five picks in the final two rounds
Going through CBS Sports player rankings i have found some players that may actually be real steals in the last two rounds, well if they fall there.
SS- Nate Williams (Washington), FB- Charles Clay (Tulsa), OT- D.J. Young (Michigan State), CB- Josh Thomas (Buffalo), G- Ricky Henry (Arizona), QB- T.J. Yates (North Carolina), RB- Anthony Allen (Georgia Tech), S- Eric Hagg (Nebraska)
Those are just a couple that stand out to me. I have watched each of them play this season, the Buffalo game in person (don’t ask why).
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 24, 2011 10:16 PM PST reply actions
why?
and Josh Thomas can you give me any deets on him?
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Thomas is a pretty physical corner, and does well in coverage. That said, he didn’t play against great competition at Buffalo. He is 5-10, 196 and runs a 4.49/40.
I saw Young play a nice amount of games with Michigan State. I am a fan of Big Ten football, so he was on a lot on my TV. He played well against some darn good teams. At 296 LBs, he does need to add some bulk. I think he is a project much like we have with Alex Boone. But, he does have some real nice upside
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 24, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
5'10", 196 is a big corner?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I don't see big anywhere
just physical, which doesn’t have much to do with size
by monkey spanker on Jan 25, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Not really lol
Not when PP is 6’1 210 and is talking about running in the 4.2’s at the combine
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
He actually was at the senior bowl and worked out for scouts today
He’s supposed to be meeting with Carolina tonight and is trying to talk his way into being the #1 pick.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Only ones I somewhat agree with off that list are Ricky Henry and TJ Yates.
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Wouldn't fullback almost be a lock for one of these picks?
Isn’t the 5th round the starting point for taking a a fullback these days? I know this, the 49ers desperately need one. They need to draft one and they need to lure another free agent into camp to compete cause Jim Harbaugh out to be fired if Moran Norris is back on the roster.
These fringe starters and key backups Singletary gave scholarships to last season was his biggest mistake. Good coaches don’t tolerate fringe starters. Yes, often they settle for a guy with limited talent but a guy motivated to give his life to keep his roster spot and they usually play their none talented butt off. The 2010 49ers settled for uninspired play from uninspired talent and were bludgeoned to death by other teams because of it. This is one thing I want to see from Harbaugh this season.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Shiloh Keo is one of those guys.
but a guy motivated to give his life to keep his roster spot and they usually play their none talented butt off.
That kid would play special teams, knock someones head off, nurse him back to health just so he could knock them out again in defense.
Really though, that kid should be available in the 7th or so. Possibly UDFA. He would be a firecracker on ST’s.
But I get your point as far as offense and defense go.
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QUESTION
Is Casey Mathews really predicted to be a 3rd rounder? Had seen many mocks going in the 3rd. Yet if he was a starter for 3 years compared to his brother’s 1…why isn’t he a first rounder?
Actually
CBS Sports has him as the 161st best player, and going in the 5th round. I don’t see that, it just gives you an idea how he is being underestimated
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 24, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
i question the knowledge and research
of some of these draft sites. there are some that i feel are pretty good but there are alot that i just have to shake my head at
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
He is going to be a steal and a beast in the NFL.
I think he needs to convert to a 3-4 OLB though. He has played some, but a majority of his time has been at ILB.
I have said it all along that he could go as early as the 2nd.
I am hoping he pursue him if he is available to us in the 3rd, personally.
He has 3 family members in the Hall of Fame already… his brother is already carving out his legacy. Would you really bet against the guy? I wouldn’t.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
*we pursue
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I'd love him in the 3rd
I personally don’t want to use our 2nd round pick on him because I’d like an elite CB if Peterson is gone at 7 but if we traded back into the late 2nd round I’d be ok with it. I’d be doing flips if we could get him in 3rd though.
I doubt it
Not with that last name and the effort everyone sees he gives. Given the weak draft class I can actually see him creeping into the late 1st round. If not someone will draft him in the 2nd round. Belichick has been drafting that type of player for three consecutive seasons in the 2nd round.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
I think it's because he's smaller than Clay
the 3rd round would be a great time to pounce on him…
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Love That Video!!!
Other than 2 big misses by Jake…how many times do you hear the announcer say “DROPPED”! He’s got what it takes! Honestly think it’s all up to the coaches now, set him up and put him in the right in position to succeed and the sky’s the limit!!!
Washington loved throwing that slant route to #15. In three games manraj7 posted he conservatively dropped half of those passes. No idea why they kept going back to it.
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I think Locker is the first off the board
He has one big thing going for him, and it’s that he is VERY mobile. That’s been pretty huge this year. Look at Cutler’s two TD day, look at Vick, look at Rodgers extending the play and running for TDs, Big Ben is a perfect example of that when he escaped the pocket on 3rd down.
I think Locker is going to be good.
Locker throws really accurately on the run.
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...locker throws really accurately?
um…..I uh…..hm. Lets say disagree. Also, I think he cuts loose to run to quickly.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Did you see him throw on the run?
He throws better on the run than Mallett runs.
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and false
for the 10billionth time, anyone who claims Mallett is immoble is not looking at games. He moves in the pocket really well, including stepping up. It is like you are regurgitating the anti-arkansas crap that is out there ever draft year. Mallet is not immoble. And yes, I have watched some footage of the guy just to see why people on this site are so in love with him. I saw someone who throws poorly and doesn’t appear to check down.
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“the guy” is Locker.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Locker does throw pretty well on the run
When he is rolling out he is more dangerous than when he is in the pocket because he is indecisive in the pocket. That wast also the same knock on Alex Smith when he came out.
Thank you and good point.
And based on tossing LockerSmith in the fire he never had the chance to feel a comfort in the pocket. No wonder Smith looks so good when he comes in during the middle of the game. He comes in running his ass off, something he is used to and he’s all comfy. But in a real game when it is the little things he breaks down. He (perhaps) inwardly wants it to be that hectic haywire, oh god let’s get this going, feeling.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Moving around in the pocket is not the same thing as running.
Orton moves around in the pocket well Peyton moves around in the pocket but when they run you just wish that they would slide so that it would stop.
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ok. so he isn't a run threat
Not all QB’s have to be. I don’t rank it very high on the list of things I care about in a QB.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Harbaugh does
He wants a QB that can make a play after a play has collasped.
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This doesn't translate
to a run threat.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
How does it translate?
Harbaugh wants a guy that can handle the game, handle the team. He wants a guy that in the huddle goes and points out John Candy in the stands and eases teammates. He wants a guy that is able to keep his cool when the play collapses but if you are only able to handle collapses then you are only good as a minimal part of the team.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
When the play collapses which seems to me when the WR are covered and/or the pocket is gone.
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Yes when that happens ..and what percentage of the time with a good team..
or a team like ours do you see that happening? What is your point. So he throws accurately on the run? If he throws accurately he should be able to do that at any point in the game and within reason never have to run.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
You may never have to run but its always a nice option to run.
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yes but unless I read your premise wrong
you seemed to be defining his accuracy based on his accuracy whilst running. As you have noted yourself, that occurrence happens a low percentage of the time. The majority of the time the QB is and should be in the pocket. Now what is the percentage he has shown here in his time to show himself better. In his time where he is not having all the defense barrelling down on him? That is what we want, is it not? Being able to throw on the run is an additive to being able to throw in the pocket, isn’t it?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Ya it is.
But it was a side fact. It was in a response to the comment that the top QBs make things happen when nothing is there. I said that Locker throws well while he is on the run. As an indication that he makes things happen.
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And I would just say...
that what has he made happen in the Senior Bowl? Trust me I’m not saying that he’s going to be crud in the NFL. He has promise, but the fact of him being accurate on the run does not negate the fact that his throwing in the Senior Bowl has not been spectacular. I’m going to have to watch these practices but the question in my mind is, during the Senior Bowl where you have good O Linemen (or certainly better than he purportedly had in College) and the Defense playing it relatively easy, then he should be able to make hits in the pocket. Oh and should we note that he most probably has better receivers as well?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
I never said he was accurate in the pocket or that it will compensate.
I just said that Locker was really good at throwing while moving.
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no. it doesn't
MAnning is a playmaker, not a run threat. A playmaker finds a receiver, makes a play happen. That isn’t always with his feet. And push comes to shove, I’ve seen mallet take off. He looks like a gazelle, but he got down field.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
A gazelle is really peaceful you must mean doesn't.
And how often do you see Peyton throw the ball when the O-Line collapses and the WR are covered. Never he just slides.
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False
anybody that thinks Mallett is mobile has some sort of bias goggles they are wearing.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
no, bias goggles
are what you west coast homers are wearing when you call the guy immoble after he spent 2 years making a living out of dodging and weaving real defenses in the SEC. I’m telling you, all of you, that when it is all said and done you will eat your words. The guy can roll out, step up, avoid the rush, and get the ball to his receiver. If anyone has bias goggles on, it is Drew, and anyone else who continually calls this guy ‘a statue" or “completely immoble.” If we don’t take him, it will be our loss. I’d love to see what a kid with his tools can do after a couple of years of NFL coaching and sitting behind a vet.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
His tools?
What about his lack of mental tools. The guy is dumb as a box of rocks. He’d NEVER be able to learn Harbaugh’s offense.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
"dumb as a box of rocks"
care to explain this to the class? what are you basing this on? Again with this unsubstantiated BS that people spout. Back it up. Please explain this opinion, and give examples of what makes you think this. I’ll wait.
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still waiting.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
west coast homers
lol
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 27, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think the lol
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Also brought to you by the letter H.
Is it draft day yet?
I'm calling anyone who makes a stupid comment
without backing it up at all a homer. they dis the guy because he is an SEC guy, and say random crap that doesn’t even make sense. But whatever you say, homer.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
How accurate has he been during the Senior Bowl?
And why do you feel you need to add “on the run” should we just plan on having no offensive line so he can be on the run from the start? I think not. You have some valuable input but you don’t put much meat around it. I’d ask that you give a bit more meat into your statements and that would be of more value and show your value to the concepts. :-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Haven't watched the Senior Bowl
But I heard that he has been good when it came to inbetween the hashes kind of throws. The sideline throws have been iffy.
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And who have you heard that from?
That’s an important part isn’t it?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Draftcountdown and the other people I link you guys too.
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Again if you make a statement
and you assess it to others…please give a link. It’s not that we don’t trust you but we trust ourselves as well. A link would be viable.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's not ok so we won't have an offensive line
You just call more bootlegs. Granted, you can’t survive on that, but I think when a QB can be accurate on the run, but struggles in the pocket, it’s a footwork kind of thing. I think he gets his body into the correct position when he is running, but fails to do it when he is in the pocket, or fails to do it consistently while in the pocket. But I think it shows you that the QB is accurate if you can get his feet right.
I always relate to throwing in baseball, I played shortstop and I was always really accurate when charging the ball and throwing to first base, but sometimes I got wild when I let the ball come to me and set up and threw. It had some to do with thinking too much when the ball got to me, but I consistently charged the ball the same way, but didn’t always set my feet consistently when the ball came into me.
Baseball and football regarding throwing to two completely different animals.
Horrible comparison.
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I played college baseball and football in HS.
Quarterback and Centerfield in baseball…
…you are so far off it isn’t even funny.
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You must not have been very good
Because I’m right. How am I wrong? Instead of saying I’m wrong about baseball, why don’t you prove me wrong.
I was more consistent when I threw off the run, and struggled because I changed my motion when set. How am I wrong. And it’s not different with football, because it’s all about consistency and being able to repeat your throwing motion. You throw different, but the ability to repeat your motion is important in both. Coincedence that baseball and football both have arm slots they throw out of?
Nope.
SO WHY DOESN’T SOMEONE JUST PROVE ME WRONG INSTEAD OF SAYING I’M WRONG, SAYING I’M CHICKEN LITTLE, OR SAYING I’M SUPERFICIAL. I’M GETTING REALLY SICK OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES THROWING STONES!
by hudd07 on Jan 27, 2011 12:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was real good.
But that neither here or there…. what matters is that you spout off a bunch of retarded non-sense and say PROVE ME WRONG… You know what, you still didn’t prove me wrong with your little childish rant there.
Guess its a draw… and if you want to turn things in to personal… I am done responding to your BS.
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Obviously you missed this in my post above
Side Note: Sometimes the discussion can get heated because of the passion of opinion. Everyone likes to feel like they’re right. And nobody likes to be proven wrong. But understand that IF you are proven wrong, it should not be taken personally; sometimes there is knowledge to gain. There are a bunch of folks that have good background knowledge on these boards … so please, should you disagree, disagree with class and make sure you understand the difference of FACT and OPINION. Let’s keep it fun and civil.
I really have zero desire to discuss anything with you from here on out. We are a fan of the same team and you have ZERO respect despite what you say.
I can handle being wrong, but so far you have not proven me wrong. You have an opinion, and I have my own. They differ…simple as that.
Your little tidbit up there doesn’t prove anything either. Maybe in your mind. But is it fact? Nope. You cannot prove whatever point you were trying to make above.
I’m done.
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Whatever dude
Go ahead and act all high and mighty when you are one of the most defensive people on here.
You are right though. We disagree, we have different opinions, and it’s dropped.
kapernick is the fastest and most mobile qb in the draft, so that would make him the first off the board then right?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
bignerd-#15 is UW’s #1 receiver! ‘09 season he tore it up and had an up and down season this year! Way too many dropped (game changing) passes! When it REALLY came down to it, he was Locker’s boy, but for pretty much the entire season Locker had no dependable receiver and that no doubt hurt Locker’s stats and the team!
Too many draft threads, I am getting confused. lol
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My Draft thinking so far
I have been researching the 49er draft and the draft in general for a while now. I read pretty much every post on the site and am well aware of everything going on with the niners. With that said I am thinking unless Patrick Peterson falls into our laps I think we trade down to the middle of the 1st.
This will essentially give us approx pick 15 in the first round and 2 picks mid 2nd round. This should give us a lot of bang for our buck and prevent reaches.
Round 1 – The only QB I could possibly fall in love with that this point is Jake Locker, who WILL be an excellent pick but not many people like it.
More realistically this is a spot where we can get a DE/OLB like Cameron Jordan or potentially Von Miller if he makes it down this far.
Round 2
CB is relatively deep in this draft and there is some definite high quality potential in the second round like Smith from Colorado, BHarris from Miami? Ras I dowling and a few more.
From here on out pick best available and your favorite QB…….
At this point in time I think this is the best draft option.
For trade charts to work
Jacksonville would supply us with the second rounder I talked about however if Prince is available we hold some power there with Texans/Cowboys need for CB
Either way
I was high on drafting Prince with the #7 pick but then realized the depth at CB so I think we go with DE/OLB with our first pick.
Then I think we all agree that there are a lot of round 2-5 quarterbacks that we like, which Harbaugh can choose from.
i don't see Jacksonville trading up.
they can get Ryan Kerrigan at #16.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Senior Bowl practice
Showing concern with Locker but the dark horse from Nevada is pretty accurate. We can trade down and stock more picks get a great CB, DE, OLB and draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th.
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I'm a fan of both QBs for the right price.
I like Locker for sure and would love him on our team, I’d even be ok at 7 because I don’t think he gets out of the top 10.
As for Kaepernick, he shows upside, and he is very intriguing, but don’t judge him on his accuracy using a throwing motion he won’t use in the Pros. It’s like a Pitcher that is accurate throwing sidearm, then changing him to throw overhand, different motion, different pitcher. If Kaepernick has a big pro day with a new throwing motion, I will officially be on board. But until then, he is nothing more than a developmental QB.
by hudd07 on Jan 25, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Re: Poll
Simply put, yes, there are options that we could spend a 1st on for a QB. When putting the emphasis on ANY, then you can always answer yes. There shouldn’t be any Niner fan in existence who wouldn’t give up our 2011 1st rounder and then some for a guy named Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Manning (Peyton), or someone similar.
Now, is that a realistic option? No. Thinking about what could realistically be had, there’s no QB available in the draft or via trade that we should spend our first rounder on.
I Think
we should draft Cam and i was strongly against Vince Young but i did some thinking and we should sign him to a one year i think it could only help us,
and get are new corner and wide reciver form the free agents market… remember plexico is comming back… you see what happend when everyone (but me) didnt want vick.
Vincent Jackson is a FA even tho its a risk, but we need to go in a new direction and i like the way we are going with Jim… but i dont think its enough
Ngata is a FA i know he will sign back with the ravens but we can try right?
Burress
I don’t think he is going to be out of prison in time enough for a camp. The only way he plays next year, is if a team gets desperate due to injuries midway through the year
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Really?
I have no clue when he is out but I think it’s close because I read a lot of buzz on him on ESPN Insider.
I looked it up
June 6th or as early as Spring 2011 with probation. I see him getting out a little early.
He already tried. They denied him.
But I didn’t know it was that soon. I thought he still had like 9 months to do or something like that.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027
He has to apply again June 6th, that doesn’t mean he will get it for sure necessarily. In fact, if you listen to the video there, it sounds like he;s going to do his full 2-year sentence. That was his 2nd time being denied too.
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I read that, it was kind of confusing
So is June 6th the first time he comes up for full release? Seems like that is his release date, but then it’s confusing with that being the first time he can apply for work release. It says that’s the first date he can be fully released for good behavior is June6th I think?. I read that he only has one mark against him there so he probably gets out with good behavior.
My guess is June 6th.
He already has one misbehavior report in there, what makes you think they will make an exception
when only 2% of the 27,000 inmates that are in there get them? Also, NY doesn’t mess around with that gun law. I doubt he gets out until he’s supposed to.
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Over crowding
I just don’t get how someone who shoots himself, get’s two years, and someone that was drunk and killed someone else gets 30 days.
I don’t know NY law at all, I’ve heard they are brutal with that particular law so you could be right. I’m still thinking June 6th. If OJ’s legal team could keep him out of jail, Plaxico’s can get him released for good behavior. lol
I think he'll be out by april/march
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
burress was just unlikey enough to shot himself in the wrong state. stallworth shouldve gotten alot more but sometimes people get off lite for what ever the reason….shame really
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i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 25, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Stallworth settled
From what I understand is the family didn’t really want him to go to jail for a long time, and he settled for money so when 30 days was put on the table, the family was ok with it.
Money makes the world go round.
i also wanted us to sign Vick
but c’mon, Plaxico Burress? isn’t he like 35 years old or something?
not the same situation.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
why?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
My New 49ers Mock
1. CB- Patrick Peterson, Louisiana State: My post yesterday pretty much covered why i think he will be available for the 49ers at 7.
2. QB- Ryan Mallett, Arkansas: CBS Sports and Walter Camp Football has his stock status dropping by the minute. Additionally, i have him as the 39th best prospect at this point. Listen, i am not a huge fan of Mallet’s, bue we would be getting great value here.
3. LB- Dontay Moch, Nevada: At 229 LBs, Moch is a little undersized right now. I think he can and will add some weight in the off-season. He should be a dynamic OLB in our 3-4 system.
4. DT- Ian Williams, Notre Dame: I have had the pleasure of watching Williams play and grow as a golden domer of the last couple of seasons. I think he would be a perfect fit as an end in the 3-4. This dude has a great motor, and passion for the game.
4. WR- Austin Pettis, Boise State: He isn’t a flash receiver. However, Pettis runs solid routes, has great hands and could turn into a nice #2 WR in the NFL. I am betting that his stock goes up over the next two months, so he may not be available here.
5. FB- Stanley Havili, USC: As much as i do like Merecic, i cannot see spending a 3rd round pick on him, and that might be what it takes. Havili is a traditional FB that can run the ball. We need a rushing FB in the WCO (see: Tom Rathman and William Floyd).
6. S- Will Hill, Florida: Coming out after his Junior Season may have been a mistake. I believe Hill thought he would go in the first 2 rounds, but current projections have him in the late 5th and early 6th. This would be a steal for the 49ers, and enable us to groom his and let him get more maturity and experience.
6. LB- Mike Mohamed, California: The one good thing about possibly drafting Merecic is that he would have added depth at LB too. However, i have us taking Havili, so the 49ers need to address ILB depth and ST plays. Mohamed was a solid all around player for CAL, and would be good depth at this position.
7. OL- D.J. Young, Michigan State: I have watched him play over the last couple of seasons. I tend to view a lot of Big Ten games, and he really did stick out to me as a real nice player. Young is only 296 LBs, so he will have to add some weight. May be a project like Alex Boone, but has the same amount of upside.
7. CB- Josh Thomas, Buffalo: Another player i have seen play (actually in person). He is a physical corner with pretty good coverage skills. Could contribute on ST right away, or sit on the PS.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 25, 2011 12:29 PM PST reply actions
Nice
I think Marecic goes in the 5th. I think you would be fine having him at 5. The first FB off the board last year was in the 5th round to the Jets. They are an antiquated position in the modern NFL and will be around in the later rounds.
Mallet is a great value in the 2nd, but even still, if we don’t think he is going to succeed, why waste a pick at all? I do agree with you though, I think Mallet could drop. I think either Newton or Mallet drop into the 2nd. I’d rather have Newton in 2nd though over Mallet.
As for 3rd round Moch, do you like him better than Casey Mathews? I’d personally rather have Mathews.
In 4th round, why not Titus Young over Pettis? While I don’t think he is as fast as DeSean Jackson like Drew thinks, I do agree with him in that they are similar WRs, and he could be a good fit next to the possession receiver that Crabtree has become.
Simple Answer
Young won’t be available in the 4th, or even the 3rd for that matter.
You are right about FBs, however, Merecic does more. He can backup at ILB and will be a standout ST player. Hence, him being projected in the 3rd by some outlets. Havili is the next best option, and he is actually a better true FB than Merecic
Matthews looks more like an ILB to me. To draft him would be to get another Bowman type player. We need a true pass rusher at OLB. Moch looks like that to me
I just think it would be hard to pass up on Mallett in the 2nd. I don’t think Newton will be available, some team will reach ala Tebow.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 25, 2011 12:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Disagree
I think Young goes in 3rd at earliest. I know others disagree with me on this, but he doesn’t have the elite speed that Jackson has. He is fast, but Jackson coming out of school was a big time punt returner too and his 4.29 speed was blazing. I think Young drops just for that reason.
Marecic and FB in general. All FBs play special teams. That’s their deal. So it’s not like Havili won’t be playing special teams, so he will fall further than Marecic. That’s expected from a FB. Heck even Moran Norris still plays special teams. Maybe Marecic goes in 4th because he can be a back up LB (he isn’t being looked at that position at all), but I really doubt the 3rd.
Matthews has a high motor, and is pretty athletic. I don’t know why people project him as ILB vs OLB. Same with Bowman. When you have the talent and size, you move based on where you fit best. Moch just is WAY too small. Didn’t he way in at like 227 or something? That’s a WR going against a Tackle.
If you think Moch is too small, Casey is no bigger
Only about 235…
Don’t get me wrong, he’d be an excellent 3rd round pick, and better than Moch, but there isn’t that much of a size difference…
I completely agree...
He doesn’t have the size to go against offensive tackle regularly… An excellent ILB prospect though, with leadership skills, a Matthews work ethic and a motor that never quits…
I think he could play olb. He's a bit smaller and less athletic than his brother
but I think he will definitely be a star in this league. We need a pass rusher and If he could convert to olb that would be perfect. Imagine seeing Willis, Bowman, on the inside and Casey and (i know im wishing) taylor mays on the outside.
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Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Mays is a safety man.
Use him as one. Send him on blitzes make him play close and deep like the Steelers use Palomalu.
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Remember
Darnell Bing a couple seasons ago? Oakland switched him to LB after drafting him as a safety. It didn’t work out too good for him. I still thought Bing could have been a decent safety.
Keep Mays where he is and let him progress as a player. Let Donatell work with him
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 25, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Thats what I believe.
Just because he is a safety doesn’t mean you can send him to rush the passer. Hell because he is an athletic safety make him rush. Make the QB look for him every play.
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you guys are probably right.
I’m a mays fan myself and want him to succeed as a safety…BUT, I see that size and burst of speed and I can’t help myself.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
His size and burst can be used as a safety blitz
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i hope Fangio does this a lot.
i think it could be the best part of Mays’ game by next year.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
He would has the physical ability to do it.
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YES
Palomalu has better ball skills but I really think Mays can tear stuff up if we play him like that.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 25, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
He should but needs to improve his coverage.
Until then…
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Simple Answer
Young won’t be available in the 4th, or even the 3rd for that matter.
You are right about FBs, however, Merecic does more. He can backup at ILB and will be a standout ST player. Hence, him being projected in the 3rd by some outlets. Havili is the next best option, and he is actually a better true FB than Merecic
Matthews looks more like an ILB to me. To draft him would be to get another Bowman type player. We need a true pass rusher at OLB. Moch looks like that to me
I just think it would be hard to pass up on Mallett in the 2nd. I don’t think Newton will be available, some team will reach ala Tebow.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 25, 2011 1:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I will shoot myself in the skull if we draft Ryan Mallett.
I don’t think Harbaugh or Baalke is that dumb.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Let's hope
We don’t need Drew Bledsoe 2.0 on this team
by monkey spanker on Jan 25, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Jim Druckenmiller
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
come on man, he his a good qb.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
I would pay money to see this
Every time you bash the man, and it is based on nothing. He is no where NEAR as immoble as you claim, he is very accurate, great reads, good football head on his shoulders, full of fire. This is an idiotic statement. Your dislike for this guy is way over the top and completely unwarrented.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Drew always has his man crushes that he defends till he is blue in the face
But at the same time, he has the guys that he hates with a passion and freaks out everytime someone mentions his name.
It's very warranted.... but thanks for your polite comment.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I find it real humorous that people feel the need to make comments like this
when the Mike Mayock’s, Charles Davis’, and Mel Kiper’s are drawing the same conclusions.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
laugh it up
but naming analysts who are wrong as often as they are right doesn’t do much to back up your arrogance. Sorry man. You didn’t reply, you simply tried to belittle me. Good call though. You dislike the guy, but with no clear reason other than a nebulous “he’s like a statue.” when there is plenty out there to dispute ths statement. You have a problem with him, and you are over the top with it.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Whatever you think. You're entitled to your opinion just like anyone else.
But eventually the results will speak for themselves, I feel confident in everything I have claimed about Mallett.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Also.
We need more than just Peterson that high. Josh Thomas is too small to play on the other side. We need another CB in the 3rd, 4th, no later than the 5th… If we get a guy like Jonathan Joesph or Asamougha, then it will be fine. Otherwise, we better be doing more to solidify that secondary.
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Dontay Moch i just posted on another post is a prime raiders target with a 40 time of 4.38
thats blazing speed for a LB
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im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 25, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
Raiders fans are already including him in every single one of their mock drafts.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
For those that missed it
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http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/1/19/1943956/the-happy-football-life-of-will-hill
wow. that guy is going to have a lot of problems in the nfl.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
lol great link
might be a 6th or 7th round picker.
what will jed say of his twits?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
why do you keep referring to it as "Walter Camp Football"?
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
How was the senior bowl practice today?
From this link it said that Locker sucked and checked down a lot while Jordan beasted it out.
http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/25/senior-bowl-day-2-north-squad-practice-notes/
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If that how it is then I would want Quinn.
Hopefully his suspension was because he was immature and just wanted some money instead of blatantly breaking the rule.
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this
None of the QBs look worthy of the #7 pick as of now. CB or OLB would be my pick, and Quinn looks like a great one
by monkey spanker on Jan 25, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Locker did poorly...Kaepernick did good again today. Stanzi looked good too.
Young looked good again. And for some reason or another, the entire offensive line did a 180 from yesterday. They stunk. Kendall Hunter looked good for the RB’s.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I heard Stanzi sucked.
He overthrew a stationary target. How the hell do you do that.
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It happens.
I was just watching the Pro Bowl skills competitions earlier and P. Manning, Vick, and others were missing stationary targets.
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But he overthrew consistently.
This is all from the notes.
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I watched it.
The notes are exaggerating some. He made a couple bad throws that I saw. Not a majority though.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Well, he wasn't bad either.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Im still on the Pat Devlin Bandwagon
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
no locker please
please
he is bombing
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Kaepernick
is growing on me.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Some quotes that I really liked or thought were interesting.
-Colin Kaepernick has been the most impressive of the North quarterbacks. Despite his long, awkward release, he is the only quarterback that has shown a willingness to go downfield with his reads and he has done so with success. Kaepernick has launched some really ugly passes that include overthrows and ducks on the short routes, but he’s working hard and really putting in all of the effort. After every mistake, Kaepernick can be seen going to the coaching staff and trying to not make the same mistake twice.
-Cameron Jordan stole the show. He is by far the best player here at the Senior Bowl and he’s been making himself a lot of money. Jordan is looking like a top ten pick out there. Whether it be 1-on-1′s or 11-on-11′s, Jordan has been unblockable. He has made the most of his long arms and big hands. Jordan uses them better than any other d-lineman in attendance. If you had to describe the way Jordan uses his hands to manhandle offensive lineman, there is no better description than, "ninja hands." During 11-on-11′s, Jordan ripped through the offensive line and blew up Ricky Stanzi, which resulted in a forced fumble.
-If it weren’t for Jordan, Christian Ballard would be stealing the show. He’s put on an impressive performance and regularly has won his matchups.
-Jake Locker has yet to impress. He continued with his inconsistent accuracy and checked down during 7-on-7′s on a regular basis. Locker hasn’t made any big impressions on anyone and continues to raise questions. He was considered a potential number one overall pick, but has only gotten worse since then. At this point, he doesn’t even look like a first-rounder out there.
Titus Young impressed in practice today. He was very quick and shifty in and out of his routes. He was blowing by the defensive backs and making great adjustments on the ball.
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Cameron Jordan
He got yelled at badly by the coaching staff. They said that if he hit the QB again, even by accident that they would send him home.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Yeah, you just dont do that. He should know better.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Hang in there Jordan...
You won’t hear that again anytime soon. Keep in check for another week, then hit any other opposing QB as hard as you want for as long as you can…
Umm, I would expect him to keep hearing it again in practice
I don’t think he’ll get too far in the NFL if he continues to wail on his own team’s QB in practice.
He just got too hyped up.
Its an important week for him.
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NFL network
http://www.firstrow.net/watch/31606/1/watch-nfl-network.html
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I can't believe that Harbaugh isn't at the Senior Bowl
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Hes in santa clara watching tape. Im ok with that.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Are you sureeee
He could just be in Santa Clara
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I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
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by Hoopers Judge on Jan 26, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
We don't know what he is doing.
We just know that he is in SF
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Barrows said
Dalton and Ponder are looking the best for the South.
He said “Among the South’s QBs, FS Ponder and TCU’s Dalton are starting to emerge as favorites. Scouts say Ponder’s mechanics won’t need much work on the next level. Dalton has a swagger that some teams are seeking, and he’s been accrate with his passes early on in practice”.
I havn’t heard much bad stuff regarding Ponder except from Drew. I got to look more into this guy, it appears he is pretty polished.
2010
Oklahoma game: Ponder completely flopped. He was out done and had no idea where he was even at half the time. Comp rate for that game – 39% 11/28, 113 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT.
NC State = Loss (Game ended on a fumble by the RB, but there were 4 incompletions on bad passes by Ponder)
UNC = Loss
Chik-Fil-A Bowl (He really blew it. He was 1 for 5 with 6 yards before he went out in the 2nd Qtr with a concusion. The back up came in made Ponder look like he shoulda been on the bench the entire year).
I watched 3 out of the 4 games here. Ponder really is not good. He is for sure not starter material. Coaching can’t cure incompetence and a lack of leadership and drive. He also missed two more games with ticky-tac injuries against Clemson (prob ‘cause he didn’t want to get hit by Bowers) and Virginia Tech the last game of the year.
2009
Choked against Miami (3 straight incomplete passes at the goaline to lose the game) See here
S. Florida = choke
Boston College = choke
Georgia Tech = choke
Clemson = choke
Did not play the last three games due to injury…. Starting to see a trend?
I won’t even post his sophomore year ‘cause it isn’t pretty either. Lets just say he threw 12 TD’s and 13 INT’s.
I DO NOT want Christian “the choker” Ponder. He is not good. But watch all you want and form your own opinion that contradicts mine just to do it.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
He also tends to hold on to the ball too long
He has been sacked 47 times in his career there. I would say more than half of those are because he held on longer than he should have. Or freaked out at the first sign of pressure. He doesn’t know how to slide in the pocket to avoid pressure.
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And I didn’t even mention that his passes float on par with Shaun Hill’s. Cannot throw it like that in the NFL
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Stares down receivers too.
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With a gun to your head Ponder or Mallett
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then the gun isn't really a threat, so he doesn't have to choose after all.
;-)
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Fine a gun to someone more important than himself.
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a gun to Colin Kaepernick's head?
then he might cooperate…
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Ok a guy has a gun to Kaepernick head
He said choose Ponder or Mallett who do you pick Drew,
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If its a cap gun pull the trigger
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Not a cap gun. Stop making it so detailed.
Its an Ak-47 thats loaded with real bullets and place to the head of Colin Kaepernick the QB from Nevada.
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If they're blanks, go ahead and pull it.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I'm not going to.
I really don’t like either and would hate it if we picked either.
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So you would just remain silent and hope the guy would get bored and leave.
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lol
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Shoot Kellen Moore instead
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
doesn't Kellen Moore do the six shooter celebration?
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
But does he put that same finger at his head..
when he makes a mistake?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't the thing you think are mistakes are on purpose to make people believe that he isn't perfect.
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mallett
less of an injury risk and with a solid O-line should be a better QB than ponder IMO
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 26, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
You have never explained
just said he chokes. He definitely has some question marks it seems like, but all QBs do. He may absolutely suck, but it seems like you have actual hatred towards him.
No hatred toward any player.
Not even Alex Smith… but I certainly don’t want another Alex Smith caliber type player that’s going to disappoint me for the next 5 years. It’s definitely a touchy subject for me. That’s why I am so against certain players.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I think you are talking about mallett...
if you are..Then i agree. Just say no.
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Let's just say I'd rather have Cam Newton than either Ponder or Mallett...
…and I really, really don’t want Newton either.
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drew what's your take on Devlin?
Ive been trying to see what people who watch much more college football than me think about the kid. Ive only seen whats on the net, highlight videos and such.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 1:42 AM PST up reply actions
I like him and I thin he'll be a legit mid-round project.
Better suited to start off behind a veteran QB to learn the game better. But he has very good tangibles and potential to match.
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Sounds like the perfect candidate to play behind Palmer.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
If we can get Palmer.
Palmer may have to retire a year ala Brett Favre, sit a year, and then go somewhere else.
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Im thinking that palmer is a good stop gap qb for us.
But you’re right. The chances of him going anywhere are almost impossible.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
I fthe CBA gets done, and the Bengals (Mike Brown specifically)
does let Palmer walk, he’s going to be more than a stop-gap. He’s only 31. He will be there for the next 4-5 years as a starter.
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He just hasn't been the same since his injury.
I think two good years from him and then bring in the project guy.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
When did Brett Favre retire a year?
or are you speaking future tense?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
My mistake.
I thought for some reason he did in between the Packers and the Jets
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then his "streak" would have been ruined.
Are you thinking Jake the Snake? But he never came back. I think it’s gonna be a stand off and it’s not gonna be pretty. But I think that at worst a 4th (maybe 3rd) this year with a chance at a higher pick next year based on how he does might do it.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
No.
I was thinking Favre… just didn’t remember the details. I thought the Packers wouldn’t trade him, so he retired…and then came back….and then retired….etc.
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I think they didn't want him going to the NFC North
Even though that’s where he wanted to go, so basically he retired, GB released him from the contract with stips he couldn’t go to certain teams (pretty sure it was similar), and that’s why he ended up with the Jets.
Or was he traded to the Jets? I can’t remember now.
he was traded to the Jets
the Packers still owned his rights when he unretired the first time.
then he retired from the Jets, they released his rights, he unretired again as a free agent, and signed with the Vikings.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Jim Rome is supposed to be too... there's a lot of sports guru's out there that are passionate about thing one way or the other.
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Another notes for Monday
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/North-124.php
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I would love to see 2 CBs faster than Willis, and a WR that makes plays breaking tackles.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
I would prefer a QB that can throw to the WR that we already have.
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by manraj7 on Jan 25, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
really, poop in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills up first.
My comment doesn’t mean I don’t want another qb.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
No, it isn't...
I’m just saying that there will be plenty of competition for those exact same things…
I’m actually very impressed by the list of potential free agency CB…
QB needs to be very high on that list too though, and if it comes between 1 or the other, I choose QB first…
PP and niners will meet
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/1/25/1956340/patrick-peterson-hot-senior-bowl-commodity#comments
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So we've talked to...
Locker
Peterson
Jordan
and Fusco
3 first rounders and 4-6th round OC. Interesting.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 25, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
We talked today with
Christian Ballard
Alex Henery
Vincent Brown
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I would love that guy.
Dude has a leg.
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Ok..thanks
Didn’t get those names. I like Ballard, like Henerey too.But like Ballard a lot
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 25, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately I failed you guys. I wasn't able to find a replay of the senior bowl.
Hopefully you can forgive me. Give me a little bit and I’ll compile some links for you guys can read for day 2.
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Mock with trade scenario:
this assumes that a CBA is in place by draft day, but here goes:
Niners get:
4th overall pick
Carson Palmer
Bengals get:
7th overall pick
45th overall pick
1-4 CB – Patrick Peterson – LSU
3-12 OLB – Sam Acho – Texas
4-11 WR – Vincent Brown – San Diego State
4-18 CB – Justin Rogers – Richmond
5-10 FB – Owen Marecic – Stanford
6-9 K – Alex Henery – Nebraska
6-25 QB – Greg McElroy – Alabama
7-7 S – Tejay Johnson – TCU
7-8 C – Brandon Fusco – Slip ‘n’ Slide Rocks, or whatever that school is called
I think the trade is possible. The Bengals are known for being one of the cheapest teams in the league, and they won’t want to spend money on Carson Palmer for one more year when they know he won’t be back after that. I doubt they will be offered a 2nd rounder for him straight up, so they might be willing to move down 3 spots in the first round to make it happen.
As far as the picks go, this site projects most of those players to be available at those spots. I think I covered just about all our needs with good players. I didn’t manage to get a d-lineman, but i really don’t think that position is super-urgent.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 25, 2011 8:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
trade value chart:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
according to the chart, they would come out 150 points ahead in terms of draft picks. and like i said, they are incredibly cheap and this trade would save them quite a bit of money.
besides, Carson Palmer can’t be a part of their long term plan at this point. i don’t see why they would hang onto him when they could unload him now, save money, and gain 150 points of draft value in the process.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
I'm surprised the difference from 4th and 7th are so little
I would love that to ensure we get Peterson.
i still think there's a chance the Broncos take Peterson
so i probably wouldn’t make this trade until the 4th pick was on the board, but Baalke could always talk to the Bengals ahead of time and see if they would do this if Peterson is there.
if the trade was finalized before the draft and then Peterson goes top 3, i have no idea what we’d do with the 4th pick.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 25, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Thats why you don't finalize the trade until the 4th pick is on the clock.
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Then again though
Do you not make the trade to get Carson Palmer just because of Peterson?
I guess you could just change and not include the 7th pick and offer something different.
I would rather get Peterson and no Palmer than Palmer and no peterson
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I don't know
Palmer and Von Miller would be pretty legit. There are elite corners available in FA, not pass rushers though.
Quinn or Miller will slip to the Niners
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I dont think we're gonna be drafting a pass rusher 1st round.
call me crazy
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Woodley is a RFA and Hali will probably be franchised.
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RFA tender might change under new CBA
I can see Woodley maybe getting free. If Pitt is so in love with their ability to churn out these types of players he might hit the market. I also think it would be a bad move by them which is why I don’t see it happening.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 27, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
After the new CBA,
if there are still such things as RFA’s and Franchise tags…
But right now they are available, just as available as the “elite corners” hudd07 is talking about.
Since we're just drawing on the cocktail napkin here
Palmer, Quinn or Miller, Asomugha. MONSTER JAM!
Is it draft day yet?
A.J. Green if Petersons gone? Imagine the potential of that O.
I really like that set-up I think it could work out well in alot of ways. Might have to throw in a 2012 for Cincy to pounce. I don’t see the Bengals owner letting him leave though.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 25, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
You don't have to trade before the pick comes up.
Trade as the draft goes on and you see that Peterson fell. But no point in having a great offense if you don’t have a QB.
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True
But in this situation we’d be getting Palmer. If either Green or Peterson are there at 4 I’d be down in exchange for our first two picks.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 25, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
U might want to e-mail this to the niners FO. I like your thinking here.
Love the peterson trade.
Owen Marecic will be the second coming of Tom Rathman.
and Greg McElroy? in the 6th? Fusco in the 7th? Yes please.
rec’d.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 25, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
i found Trent Baalke's home address on the internet once.
does anyone remember how snail mail works?
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 25, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yes...
write the letter hand it to a snail and then wait. :-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
i'm having trouble with step 2.
the snail just won’t take it.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Dude...
you have to make the snail want to take it…take a tip from Harbaugh..coach them up.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
sounds like i need a Singletary speech.
“It is more about being a snail than it is about delivering the mail. I would rather send the letter without a stamp, and just get penalized all the way until i have to deliver it by hand…”
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Yep now you get it.
By the way..bro…don’t send it snail mail.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
i don't think i'll send it at all.
apparently the Bengals just don’t trade down.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
I don't see McElroy
lasting until the 6th. If he did, I think that would be a great value. He’s one I want to see in a few years.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
the site i linked to had him in the mid-7th
but i decided not to risk it and grab him in the 6th.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
2nd round pick for carson palmer?
you serious?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
i asked some Bengals fans and they don't think Mike Brown would do this.
oh well.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
It's doable....
in a DC comics alternate reality. Sorry it’s not hit home to me yet.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
How about trading the first, second, and another pick
to the Broncos for their first, and Kyle Orton. I like Orton better, he is younger and doesn’t have the price tag, and also, we would pretty much guarantee Patrick Peterson, unless the Panthers end up taking him.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 26, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Very nice
I’ll even throw a rec at this.
Its basically Orton for a high second… I’ll make that trade. Orton was putting up ridiculous numbers on that inflated, throw 50 times a game downfield, broncos offense. He could probably put up at least half that here which would put him about even with our beleaguered, highly underrated and departing, current starting QB,. Plus, we have a ton of lower picks to move back into the second round if we want. Orton is the only QB that interests me in FA. I’m not really that into Kolb even. Philly is a good team. Lots of QBs could throw for great numbers there.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Paea is injured and out of rest of Senior Bowl.
Reported that he has a torn meniscus.
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i looked around a bit
to see how long the recovery time is for that, and apperently sometimes a torn meniscus requires surgery, while other times you just need a few weeks of physical therapy.
i’ll bet he doesn’t participate in the combine.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 25, 2011 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
There's the first one to bite the dust.
There goes his stock plummeting down the drain.
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Still can't believe that someone said Garcia was the 3rd best QB in Niner history
I posted this above, but it is worth repeating
Garcia 3rd best 49ers QB ever?
John Brodie (1957-1973) 31,548 Yards, 214 career TDs
Y.A. Tittle: (1948-1964) 33,070 Yards and 242 TDs
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 25, 2011 10:41 PM PST reply actions
yes he is.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Can someone please explain this to me.......VON MILLEr
Texas A&M linebacker Von Miller was very disappointing as was Texas’ Sam Acho. Miller held his own in the pit against the offensive linemen, but really struggled in coverage. Miller was always running behind the tight ends or backs and was having a difficult time reading and reacting to the throws. Miller would get caught back peddling and he didn’t have the reaction to make a quick break on the ball.
From http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/25/senior-bowl-day-2-south-squad-practice-notes/
Now Check out what ESPN.com had to say.
“He was unstoppable against players who are expected to go in the first two days of the draft.”
Read the entire article, they call Von Miller the next coming of Clay Mathews and Brian Cushing.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/notebook?page=seniorbowl0125
and for those that dont have insider…..sorry?
Just know that one multiple occasions they say Von Miller is basically BEAST MODE
How can reviews of the senior bowl be so polar opposite? If Von Miller is killing it as much as ESPN is saying then thats fantastic news for us.
they're just evaluating different parts of his game.
the first article is complaining about his coverage skills, while the second one seems to be talking more about his pass rushing. (i don’t have insider, so i didnt actually read it, but that’s what it look like).
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 26, 2011 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Your first thought should be...
To disregard everything ESPN says.
You’ll be better informed if you tune out the hype machine.
lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Sources here have told us the Minnesota Vikings & Miami Dolphins have show tremendous interest in QB- Colin Kaepernick. Looking @ 2nd round
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teeheehee
thats the sound of DrewK giggling in the background as it turns out he was right.
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That's a HUGE gap even if it hasn't happened between the 2nd and 5th round.
I GUARANTEE he is not going to last ’til the 5th round. If he lasts to the 4th round that will be a HUGE shock. But if he has a great Senior Bowl and a good Combine (which I know he will have) then he will no doubt be a 3rd rounder… possibly even go in the 2nd round.
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I think he SHOULD be a 5th rounder
He could go in 2nd. I think 4th is a reach for him though. Until I see him with his “new” delivery I’m not taking him before the 4th. Like I have said a 100 times, if he comes out with a new delivery on his pro day, which he should, then I reserve the right to bump him up at that time. But I’m just unwilling to use a 2nd round pick on this guy when I don’t even know if he can change his delivery and be effective. I think the hype machine is in effect, and once the dust settles, he goes 4th round if he doesn’t change his delivery.
We'll see, but I think you will be eating crow.
I am sure before the draft you will be singing a different tune though. You will flip flop and then use the “I said I had the right to change my mind” thing as your scapegoat.
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Remember 2010's mancrush?
Jonathan Dwyer? Remember you thought he was a 1st rounder and he had 4.43 speed? But at the combine he ended up running a ~4.6 then on draft day he was picked in the 6th round.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
I'll give this to you
you got the Bay Bay Thomas pick correct. Though he was picked by McDaniels who’s a worse GM than Matt Millen
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
McDaniels was the GM?
Hmm, thats news to me.
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He was acting GM
and proved to be a horrible talent evaluator
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
No, I don't remember that.
The only RB I spoke really highly of was CJ Spiller
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You were on the Dwyer train too
….until the combine
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
Dwyer wasn't even my 2nd, 3rd,or 4th favorite RB before the combine.
There were SEVERAL people that thought he would be drafted before where he was. In fact, most people did. A majority.
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I could eat crow
I havn’t waivered at all though. The way he sits exactly right now, he is a 4th-5th rounder at best for all the same reasons Tebow was expected to drop. Tebow changed his motion at his Pro Day, and rocketed back up the draft board. So can things happen, yes. But the fact remains he has a LOT to change about his delivery, and in the 2nd round it scares me. If the Vikings reach and grab him in the 2nd, does that mean that’s where he should have gone? No.
Tebow went in the 1st, but it was a general consensus that he should have gone in the 2nd round at best. Just because a team falls in love and reaches, does not mean that’s where he should be. I don’t think a guy that is looking at 2+ years before he can make an impact, IF he changes the delivery that made him successful, is worth a 2nd rounder. Again, if he debuts a new delivery and is accurate with hit, he could absolutely fly up the draft chart, but the guy as he is now, is 4th rounder at best and I still think he should go in the 5th.
He has been making all the pro throws in these practices and has been
BY FAR the best QB so far.
But this topic is getting boring and aggravating to me. So let’s just wait from here on, k?
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At senior bowl practices?
BY FAR the best QB so far.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
Who has been better?
If you want to talk about careers, he’s been better there too.
What is your confusion?
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I've been hearing Andy Dalton is the most impressive looking QB
All the reports on Kaepernick are making him out to be a project. Ugly wind up no footwork.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
Mayock has said only good things about his footwork.... he is there.
What reports exactly, I haven’t heard anything about that. Only that his footwork is great and he is very accurate. I haven’t even heard anything really about Dalton.
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Okay you're right
I read some timely tweets that gave me the impression Andy Dalton was doing amazing in Mobile, but now after using google news all the reports are about Kaepernick.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
From what I am watching he looks like crap.
Bouncing screen passes off the turf. Hitting borders in drills… Mayock and Davis called him a “game-manager”.
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Dalton that is.
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I'm not watching, just occassionally reading tweets
From what I’ve seen over the season, all the QBs at the Senior Bowl don’t have what it takes to be a successful starting Qb at the next level. So a compliment like being called a game-manager is the highest praise I’d expect.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.S Tyler Sash 5.RB Brandon Saine 6.WR Lester Jean 6. Nose Tackle 7. Kicker 7.QB Tyrod Taylor
If that's the way you want to look at and justify it that's your deal man.
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The only QB that everyone says is playing well is Greg McElroy.
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Now you are just trolling
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Look around
Can you find a report that says McElroy has been playing poorly?
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Yup plays for the south.
Most of the QBs we have been talking about came from the north.
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I've read (and heard and seen) several reports that say Kaepernick is ripping it up out there.
But…McElroy is the only QB that’s doing good? Ok, whatever.
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Consistently
means I haven’t heard a bad word about him.
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He's not getting as many reps as Dalton and Ponder
If he is, they aren’t showing them on NFLN.
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Yes
I understand that.
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They probably pick favorites and show the big names more.
Like the combine.
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I have been watching very closely all three days.
I have watched the first two practices twice already and today’s once. I’ll watch that one again tonight.
He has a bit of an unorthodox throwing motion, but everything else looks great.
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I never heard him not admitting "it"
He said pretty much the same thing you said about Kaepernick but without the derisiveness. yes both have unorthodox throwing motions. Both are correctable. You can throw a ball on a rope but if that rope is attached to defender then it’s not of much use for your team is it? Yes Dalton has quirks in his throwing motion, as does Kaepernick. Locker maybe doesn’t but how much can you blame all the missed catches on his receiving corps. if that’s true then how many receivers from Nevada and TCU are in the draft? God are we the Seahawks from a few years back trying to find reasons why the receivers aren’t catching balls? (Which to an extent they are still trying to do except in that one game) or are we the 9ers?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
I was talking abour Kaepernick jackrod!
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I have never denied his throwing motion is not prototypical.
I just don’t think it is going to effect him a bit, like you seem to think. He has done fine with it playing D-1 NCAA football for the last 4 years. He has thrown for 10,000 yards with 82 TD, averaging only 6 INT’s a year with it. If you bet against him, then you are naive and don’t really pay close attention. That’s all it boils down to.
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I'm seriously getting really sick of this site
and the people on it!
Your reply was so far down the page I couldn’t tell and supraman whom you were replying to had Andy Dalton in his subject title so get over yourself.
"up" button.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Jan 27, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
By virtually all accounts, Kaepernick was the most impressive quarterback on Monday. NFL Network’s Mike Mayock also praised Kaepernick’s arm power, noting that it had Eli and Peyton “giggling” at last year’s Manning Quarterback Camp before Monday’s eye-opening display. It’s early, but Kaepernick already appears to be gaining ground on the elite draft-eligible QBs.
Source: CBS Sports
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I heard he took step back on tuesday wednesday.
It’s early but #Washington QB Jake Locker is looking good so far. Not so much for #Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick. #SeniorBowl
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Heard? Heard? Heard?
I am watching the damn things… where in the heck are these reports coming from?
He looks very, very good.
Why do you think there is so much buzz about him? Because he is dropping off from Monday? That makes no sense at all.
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From the people that are in mobile watching the thing.
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You still have not provided a source.
Stop trolling please…it’s really rather annoying.
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Sorry, I trust the guys who are hosting this thing more than a couple of websites.
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Ok its your choice
Just that reports have been different
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Bring a source... a credible one... like someone who is actually there (i.e. Mayock)
Instead of bringing these so-called hear-say things you are posting here.
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Like J Sing below.
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Like the guy below
J Sing
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No it hasn't ...
so your perspective is not validatted either. Can both of you stop the griping at each other where it enters into pettiness..I mean come on please. This is getting a bit like a rapper from Atlanta here guys come on.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Who know who this response was even meant for.
Apple feel too far from the tree.
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LOL Dang Apples
As the Up shows it was to Hudd’s response that the draft has not happened. Therefore your speculation nor his speculation can be warranted except based on what is happening now. Hudd’s response was based on manraj’s note that sources (unfortunately no darn link to the actual source that reported those sources was provided) noted that the Vikes and he Dolphins are looking heavily at Kaepernick with possibilities of him going in the second round.
Phew! I think that brings that feeling apple a bit closer to the tree. Now if we could actually get a link for that we might be able to bring it closer.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
manraj just said the Drew was right
I said draft hadn’t happened yet so nobody is right yet. That’s all.
I'll start providing sources from every quote I pull I promise
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@manraj76 Locker was great on out and timing patterns, good velocity, confident…I’ll have a week wrap up on each position
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Huh? context please?
That if you posting what you said about someone in the senior bowl? Love ya dude, but a bit more context? Really.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
It was the whole tweet it was by draft countdown
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Then provide it.
With a link, that’s all I’m asking.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
dude don't bother with him
Nothing you say will be good enough. He will make you spend hours backing up something he doesn’t even care about anyways.
the Dolphins want to draft a scrambling QB in the 2nd round?
what a surprise‼‼
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
were you see that?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Colin Kaepernick has locked up a top-60 pick in the NFL Draft, according to one long time scout.
From the local paper in Reno:
Dave-Te Thomas, who runs a scouting service for the NFL (Scouting Services Inc.), said in an e-mail today that former Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick has “secured at least a top-60 pick” in April’s NFL draft.
Top 60 would mean no worse than the second round.
“The Cincy coaches called yesterday and have been pouring (sic) over his info,” wrote Thomas, whom Chris Murray has written about in previous blogs. “Minnesota, Washington and Arizona are following him around like toilet paper stuck to the bottom of a shoe. Everyone says he’s secured a top 60 pick.”
Thomas said he’s been in the scouting business since 1968 and believes Kaepernick is a rare find.
“… Character-wise, this kid is the closest you will ever find to Roger Staubach, and watching him on the field you can see the same work ethic, rare athleticism and desire to succeed,” Thomas wrote. “The most impressive thing this week in Mobile? When he makes a mistake, he instantly huddles with the coaches to rectify it. This kid is oozing in talent.”
Kaepernick will play for the North squad in the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., on Saturday and will take part in the NFL Combine in Indianapolis in February. The NFL draft is April 28-30 in New York City.
by JSing on Jan 26, 2011 1:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Not if he gets the job done.
All I care about is wins and results
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About the arm motion
http://www.rgj.com/article/20110126/SPORTS06/101260404/1018/SPORTS
Stupid thing won’t let me copy and paste, but I find the story interesting because ESPN continues to downplay Kaepernick’s progress of changing his throwing motion, while others seem to be glowing about the progress. I don’t agree or disagree about anything said (I’m not there, watching) but it’s funny how there can be varying opinions on something like a throwing motion; it’s either changing or it’s not!
by JSing on Jan 26, 2011 1:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Like I said,
if it gets the job done, who really cares how it “looks”.
He could throw like Dennis Eckersley for all I care. What matters in the end, is the end result of a football game.
All the concerns… not one DB in these practices has even been close to getting a jump on ANY of his passes. Plus, I think people are waaaaaayyyyyyy over exaggerating how bad his motion is. He didn’t throw for over 10,000 yards on his career with 82 TD’s ‘cause it’s so easy to get a jump on; not to mention his 24 career INT’s…that’s an average of only 6 a year. He has played against Pac-10 teams as well as others and beat them. His last game was against Bost College… he demolished them.
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I will have to admit...this quote from the above article kind of got me excited for him...
“More patient coaching will help him to prevent dropping the ball in his motion, but you can see he has the mechanics for a smooth and compact delivery.”
LOL a lot of people said that about
hmm let’s see…Steve Young, Brett Favre for sure, and a number of other players in the league. And a bit sometimes more than a bit, of work has changed that.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you for posting this.
Good info!
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McElroy is looking good today.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 26, 2011 2:32 PM PST reply actions
Been looking good the whole week from what I heard.
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Better option than Mallett or Ponder
But that doesn’t mean much.
He has looked pretty mediocre from what I have seen.
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false.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Drafttek mock draft
1. Robert Quinn OLB
2. Brandon Burton CB
3. Andy Dalton QB
4. Jeremy Kerley WR
4. Phil Taylor NT
5. Roy Helu RB
6. Lazarius Levingston DE
6. Rob McGill LOT
7. Will Hill FS
7. Greg Salas WR
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not bad
hope they would start dalton.
dalton, carr and who then?
where did ras dowling get picked?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I can't see
Taylor falling to the 4th. We saw quite a few 3-4 big men taken in the 2nd and 3rd round last year, I’m guessing someone takes him in the 2nd. The guy is massive
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Don't like that at all...
Jimmy Smith is still on the board and we pick a questionable 4-3 end who will take a couple years to turn into an OLB?
I know he doesn’t get much hype, but Smith is going to rocket up mock drafts in the next couple months, and there is a good reason why.
In his last two seasons, he allowed less than 15 completions, no touchdowns, only one first down.
When they played Georgia he completely shut down A.J. Green until they adjusted and got the matchup with the other corner, Jalil Brown.
His one on one cover skills are probably the best in the draft and I think in 2 or 3 years… teams that pass on him are going to regret it when they have to play him.
Someone on MTD told me that he only gave up 12 completions when playing one on one.
I am still looking for a source.
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An ESPN Big12 Blog says only 10 as of Nov26 last year.
But I keep reading 12 most places so I just say less than 15.
It’s possible that he gave up 2 receptions after that and 12 is the number.
Source – says info is either from conference sports information departments or ESPN’s stats. There is a huge list of random info about Big12 players, so I can’t tell you which this one is from.
A couple of links
http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/26/senior-bowl-day-3-north-squad-practice-notes/
http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/26/senior-bowl-day-3-south-squad-practice-notes/
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Those guys are clowns.
I have never even heard of that site.
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clarification
Are you saying they’re clowns because you’ve never heard of them, or for some other reason?
by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Two reasons... the analysis is quite exaggerated... and yeah, I've never heard of them.
And I read a TON of draft/ college football stuff on the web. But mostly the former of that equation.
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I’ve never seen Halley’s Comet, so clearly it doesn’t exist!!!
by JSing on Jan 26, 2011 5:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I've never seen it either
but I rest on RESPECTED input that it has existed. And on that matter did anyone know about Haley’s comet without making an assessment of all the fly by night comets that didn’t have the valid delivery that Haley’s did? Come on.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
Who says they aren't respectable?
Just because you’ve never heard of something doesn’t make it less respectable, maybe just less identifiable. Myspace was bigger than Facebook at one point. In all fairness to Drew, we don’t know if he was asserting that because he had never heard of them they are joke, or if he has some knowledge about the writers that we don’t.
What makes Mel Kiper more respected, because he’s been doing it longer? He’s wrong just as often as he is right. If they’re not respectable because you’ve not heard of them, then under the same logic you can say they are respectable because they have someone there covering the game and practices. Unless Drew knows something we don’t.
I’ve never had an unpleasant experience at the DMV, so everyone else is lying
by JSing on Jan 26, 2011 8:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The comment was based off of what I read.
The information is exaggerated and irresponsible.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Then I retract my previous criticism.
I respect your right to formulate your opinion based off what you feel is irresponsible and exaggerated information. I have not read enough their work, personally, to form an honest, unbiased opinion on whether I would categorize them as respectable or otherwise.
by JSing on Jan 26, 2011 9:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
By a telescope
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more links
http://optimumscouting.com/scout-s-notes/articles/2011-senior-bowl-wednesday-south-notes.html
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Kaepernick is a Packers fan
Here are some other interview notes.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/PressConferences/Jan25.php
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Look a mock draft that has Peterson slipping to us that isn't made by a Niner fan.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php
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Ok.
McElroy hasn’t had any negatives said about him yet. So I am liking him in 2nd our 3rd round.
As for our first round pick, obviously Patrick Peterson but that is doubtful. Von Miller is getting awesome reviews so I think he for sure is a possbility. However some people are saying he could even be top 5 pick. Prince will for sure drop to us, so thats not a bad consolation.
Ultimately if Peterson or Von isn’t there I think we look to trade down a little.
Also in that provided link is some scoop on Fairley and Russel.
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Same link Jamarcus might go to the Phins
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So now we're trusting Cab Drivers?
Sorry I just don’t get it.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Russell and Fairley both grew up in Mobile, Alabama which is where the convention is being placed in.
I don’t see the point of the cab driver lying. Its not like he has anything to gain for it.
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Yep I've never heard a cab driver lie before.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 26, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Well...a barber called the whole Harbaugh signing
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by Mdizzle138 on Jan 26, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Did you read the entire snipet?
Or just until the cab driver part?
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russel should have been a lineman............lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
who would you rather have as olb
da quan bowers
robert quinn
von miller
was decision based on sack potential or coverage?
second question
of the three who will have the most sacks their rookie season?
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Kiper on Kaepernick
Earlier in the day, I provided a couple links regarding how various scouting agencies/draft analysts feel about the progression Kaepernick has made in terms of the throwing motion and how he has looked in Senior Bowl practices. The most notable opinion was from Dave-Te Thomas, who runs Scouting Services Inc., who opined that Kaepernick has locked-up a top-60 pick.
Enter Mel Kiper Jr. The following is an excerpt from an ESPN chat with Mel Kiper Jr.:
Eric (Truckee, Ca): Do you think Colin Kaepernick is worth a first three round pick?
Mel Kiper (1:36 PM): No. I think that’s a little early. You’re looking at a guy who’s a gifted athlete. He’s 6-5, 230, 4.5 speed. He’s got a good arm, but he needs to tweak his mechanics. Right now, he’s a thrower, not a pitcher. He’s a developmental, long range prospect as a QB. When you get into the 4-5 round, you start to think about a Kaepernick. You think about some of those QBs that have gone in the 6-7 round, he could even go then.
To reference something I said earlier, I find it interesting that there isn’t a consensus on whether the throwing motion has improved. Throwing motion is something that’s pretty tangible. It’s either changing or it’s not, and unless I’m mistaken, there’s only one Colin Kaepernick at the Senior Bowl this week.
Drew K. made a great point earlier about how it doesn’t matter how he throws, as long as he wins games. And although there has been great debate about whether that motion will allow him to win games, it certainly comes down to what Drew said.
Anyway, I’m not trying to rehash the throwing mechanics debate, I just wanted to point out an interesting quirk.
by JSing on Jan 26, 2011 10:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Great!
Now hudd is going to jump on Mel’s back and piggy-back it all the way to the draft.
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Drew.
Mel Kiper knows everything. Didn’t you know that? I am sure he knew that he knows everything. I mean, he is the “draft guru” after all. If he says Colin isn’t a 3rd round pick, well then he isn’t. Mel knows everything, he even knows what response your going to be to this
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
McShay actually raised Gabbert from a second round pick to a first.
So thread lightly on these guys.
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Gabbert
is going to be a top 5 pick, take that to the bank
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
He wasn't going to be.
Until McShay put him in the top 5.
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Its all on me
I put him top 5 before McShay did LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
really?
I haven’t heard about him before McShay.
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Yes
I was talking about him towards the end of the NCAA regular season. Anyway, its not important; again notice the sarcasm.
I am not a huge fan of those two draft “gurus”, though i do like McShay more
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Fine other than you and Todd McShay. Although you might be him.
No one saw it coming.
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Exactly.
And there is nothing to justify him being a top 5 pick. But I actually don’t think that he will be chosen in the 1st round at all. I think he falls to the 2nd.
Mallett
Locker
Newton
Will be the only three QB’s taken in the 1st.
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Disagree
Newton and Gabbert will go top five, Locker in the teens or 20’s and Mallett the route of Clausen into the 2nd at best
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
I wanna see
Ryan “Drunk and Disorderly” Mallett square off with Jimmy "Don’t you know who the **** I am?? Clausen at some bar
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
Can't see it.
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If he kills it at his pro day he goes top 5.
If Locker has a perfect pro day he goes top 5. If they both stink than either guy could go somewhere top 10
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Before bowl season Gabbert wasn't even that high.
I think he was projecting in the 4th or so.
McShay must know Gabbert’s agent real well. That’s all I’m sayin’
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Also
Gabbert doesn’t play at a school that usually shoots out pro QBs. They have had some QBs throw up some crazy numbers recently (Chase Daniel), but it hasn’t translated to the NFL. Once people reazlied that Gabbert was different, then the bandwagon came jumping
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Well I am glad you brought up Daniel.
Daniel was actually head and shoulders a better QB at Mizzou than Gabbert. Chase Daniel was an UDFA. How does that happen? Daniel has looked really solid in preseason games. Go to NFL.com and check some of them out. He also is playing behind one of the better QB’s in the last decade or so to play the game in Brees. I actually think that Daniel has more upside as a pro than does Gabbert.
We’ll see what happens, but it just goes to show that sometimes you just have to overlook some of the pundits predictions. Gabbert is absolutely one that I think will back fire on them.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I agree in regards to pundit predictions
However, wasn’t Jason White a better college QB than Josh Freeman? One was a 1st round pick and the other didn’t see the light of the day in the NFL. I was comparing those two simply because of their systems and the Big 12.
Sometimes college success doesn’t translate to the NFL. It is all about whether the game you play, your mechanics and your physical atrributes translate to the NFL
BTW, i agree with you in regards to Daniel during the pre-season, i think he has a future as a backup in the NFL. He was way too overlooked coming out of Mizzou
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Jason White
Yes, and he would have been one helluva pro had he now blown out both his knees.
Daniel: I think that once Brees decides to hang it up, Daniel has a real good shot as taking over as the starter, Same exact build, mentality, and playing style as Brees.
I agree to an extent with you in regards to sometimes college talent doesn’t translate. Hence why I don’t think Mallett will be that good, or make it for that matter. You have to look beyond stats sometimes and look at other things…intangibles go a lot further than what people tend to think. See Alex Smith.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
From David White
He was talking about what to look for in a QB. All four of those QBs have been busts, and all four of the assets listed are some of the major things pundits look for in a QB.
On the same note, why did Drew Brees fall to the 2nd round? Simple, because many didn’t think that his arm translated well to the NFL.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
And his arm, if i remember correctly
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
You just described Colin Kaepernick
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lol, Jason White.
That guy had knees that made Greg Oden’s look like they were made of bronze.
by JSing on Jan 27, 2011 12:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Can't really chime in on Gabbert cause I haven't seen him once.
That tells me something though. You step it up big in your big games and your ass is on Sportcenter. Locker even in a bad game was all over Sportcenter trying to run over linebackers.
Just checked his stats… Wildly inconsistent… and 2 big TOs to 1 TD in a close loss to Iowa. (The rush probably got to him)
And worse his 2 horrible performances against TT and Nebraska. Do not want in the top 20 just off that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Mel basically called McShay an idiot for calling Clausen not 1st round worthy
McShay >>> Kiper when it comes to QBs
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
McShay... yuck.
He might have been right on Clausen but do you remember Andre Woodson? McShay championed him hardcore in 08. Even had him going number 14 in a mock he did. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=178790 He had Brian Brohm going at number 8 in the same draft. Anyways, Woodson was a 6th round pick, was cut before camp by the Giants did some PS work and now he’s in the UFL.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 26, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Woodson should be the guy we target
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Brian Brohm
Was all you had to say to destroy his credibility.
Anyone who projects a Petrino QB above the 3rd round is the village idiot.
They all tear it up in college, then vanish into practice squads and used car dealerships.
Haha... funny
but actually respect Kiper’s eval’s more than McShay’s. It doesn’t say a ton, but you get some right, you get some wrong. Nobody is 100% correct. I do value his opinion a majority of the time though… just take it with a grain of salt. And of course I don’t agree with EVERYTHING he says.
I just think that people are going to be very surprised with Kaepernick. Senior Bowl will have a lot to do with where he is selected. He is going to have a good combine, that’s a given. But people are going to want to see how exactly he plays in a game with better competition.
I would be careful to bet against him. His numbers have been off the charts.
Just for the record, Kiper and McShay will knock a guys value down 3 rounds more than it should be if there is any kind of abnormalty in mechanics. Mechanics don’t mean everything. HTS posted some really good thoughts in a FP post yesterday on the subject.
I mean they bumped Blaine Gabbert up to a #1 overall pick because he has decent mechanics. Guess what, Alex Smith did too, and they did the same thing with him. I mean Alex had some footwork issues, but other than that, everything “appeared” squeaky clean. Tebow was a 1st rounder that they had slotted as a 3rd/ 4th. I think at one point they were thoroughly convinced that he would be drafted as an H-Back… well… he was a 1st round QB. Say what you will about Daniels, but Tebow didn’t do half bad in the games he started. He had one come from behind win (which shows his true leadership) and almost another against San Diego.
Anyway, I have to retire from the Kaepernick subject until after the Senior Bowl, because certain people on these boards have no respect and will just about go to the length of calling someone crazy because they see potential in a player to be drafted somewhere other than where they think he should.
Heck, I think Ryan Mallett should be a 3th rounder. Do you see me going out of my way to try and convince everyone of that? Nope. I don’t. Simply have stated my thoughts on him and left it alone but in turn have got attacked by certain people on these boards ‘cause "I’m frikin’ nuts… he’s gonna be the best QB in the history of the game!".
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I haven't got one wrong yet.
Of course this is my first draft season but still perfect record.
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Perfect record on what?
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Dry Seinfeld humor, i like it!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
Misses on what? I am still lost.
What have you predicted to be right 100%.
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He was joking
This is his first draft, so he is 100 percent 0/0. If you have to explain the joke, well it just might not be that great
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, got it.
Seems like he was around last year though.
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Hence my confusion
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Yeah
i thought so too.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
I was around just didn't have an opinion.
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You Pacifist
I was around and didn’t fare all too well with my Niner picks. I think i got the Iupati and Mays selections right, thats it!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't know football at all.
If I did say anything I was being a parrot.
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Do you wanna cracker?
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He
seems like the chocolate chip cookie kinda guy
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't know parrots liked chocolate
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I have ESP(N)
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Some people
seemed obsessed with Mallett, and i don’t get it. For some reason people see Mallet’s stature and autmatically believe that it will make him the next Dan Marino or Peyton Manning. Heck, i believe that Colin could actually have a better career than Mallett. And, you know the debates we have had regarding him over the last couple of days.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
more accurate bledsoe
dont love him but think he’ll be a decent QB but he’ll need a good O-line
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Alex became #1 overall after his pro day
I remember reading his pro day went about as good as one could possibly go. He completed every pass and pretty much everything was thrown perfectly. Coaches were supposedly blown away.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Yes actually you do.
Heck, I think Ryan Mallett should be a 3th rounder. Do you see me going out of my way to try and convince everyone of that? Nope. I don’t.
Hmm....
Interesting that what I said was pretty spot on with what Kiper said.
Is Kiper always right? No.
But let’s think, who do I trust more, Drew K on a blogging site, or a guy that makes a living on it…
KIPER IT IS.
Just real interesting how much of an idiot I am, and Kiper on a chat today said the same thing i have been saying. LOL.
ST baby
• UCLA K Kai Forbath hit a field goal from 55 that would’ve been good from 60.
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Even though he's ancient I think we'll see Nedney back next year.
He was pretty automatic with anything 45 yards and less.
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Re to the last sentence: He is 160.
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Not into drafting another mid round RB
However, i may support Vereen in the 3rd. The dude has 1st round talent
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
His size will drop him to the late rounds-UDFA now.
No one wants a 160 lb guy.
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yeah he's projected late
guys fast though
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
and really agile.
I wish he could pack a little bit more weight though.
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Gore's not going to be able to carry the full load.
If Harbaugh is smart, he will cut his carries down to keep him fresh throughout the year. We will need him in the playoffs. I just don’t have a ton of faith in Dixon. Besides, you are never going to see him break off a 50 yarder. We need another back that can do that.
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I like Brandon Saine in the 6th or 7th.
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Darren Evans or Delone Carter are also real nice late round pick ups.
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Do you think any of them could carry the load?
If not, i think it is a wasted pick.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, I do.
And you don’t have to pay a ton for them either.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I am darn sure that Vereen can carry the load
and, would jump at him in the 3rd. However, i think he is gone late 1st-early 2nd. His stock will rise at the combine
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
I like Vereen but we cannot afford to spend that high of a pick on a RB.
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That is the issue i am having too
I just think that he is going to be elite, and that is hard to pass up in the 3rd.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 26, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
Dion Lewis, Chad Spann, Nic Grigsby, and Baron Batch also come to mind.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Dixon already did break a 50 yarder
In pre-season remember. I think he actually did it pretty early in the game so it was against 2nd stringers.
Go AD!
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
Don't remember that.
He’s just not fast… he’s gonna get caught from behind more often than not. And I guess that’s the point more than anything.
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I'll take 8, 20 yard runs
over 2 80 yard runs. Anytime of the day , any day of the week, any week of the year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 2:09 AM PST up reply actions
Not me.
2 80 yard runs are TD’s.
8 20 yard runs could then have our QB throw an INT right after.
I get your point though, the 8 20 yard ones move the chains, but could mean zero points, whereas the 80 yard ones are TDs.
8 20 yard runs
Under all but the worst circumstances = 8 first downs and more than likely at LEAST 2 touchdowns.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Dixon's best regular season run was only 10 yards
but he had a WHOLE LOT of open field in front of him. A shame that end zone got in the way.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Stupid endzone
No wonder our offense hated it.
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Obviously depends on where they happened
But I don’t equate 8 first downs to 2 tds. If you just looked at our stats as a team we scored 29 total TDs (19 passing 10 rushing). We also had as an offense, not counting first downs by penalty, 234 first downs (149 passing, 85 rushing). So just by that math, it’s basically one TD per 8 first downs.
So I’m thinking the two 80 yard TD runs are better.
Depends..
If you are a bad team that is overmatched in talent and outcoached… take the 2 80 yard runs. High variance and high risk are really the only ways you are going to pull out wins.
If you are a good team with decent talent and coaches, always take the 8 20 yard runs.
Lets run a little thought experiment. Avg starting field position in the NFL, 28 yard line.
2 80 yard runs is 12 points from that distance.
8 20 yard runs is a 1st and 10 from midfield. Just being in that situation is worth 2 expected points. In other words, if you divide the number of points you scored after being in that situation by the times you were in that situation, the result would generally be 2.
So being at midfield with 1st and 10 8 times you should expect to get on average 16 points.. or 2.75 touchdowns.
But averages are pulled down by bad teams. If you are an above average team, you’ll likely be looking at 3 TD’s.
With our team this year… I’d take the 2 80’s….
But next year… I’d hope to be able to take the 8 20’s.
I do remember that
And, i was sitting front row when it happened. However, it was the final pre-season game when neither San Diego or San Francisco were really playing anyone. So, it doesn’t validate Dixon’s ability at all
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 27, 2011 2:13 AM PST up reply actions
Re: Dixon
I’d be comfortable with him playing second fiddle, thunder, to another RB.
Gore, Dixon/Devine
Gore will last longer if he takes less carries.
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The most important thing for Gore is keeping him healthy in to the playoffs.
The only way to do that, is by minimizing his carries. He needs to do about half of what he is currently doing.
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Dixon and Devine can take those carries.
Even take away a quarter of the carries and he should be fine.
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A bigtime "NO WAY" on Locker
As a Stanford fan I got to see Locker against a tough defense and he was total crap!!!
I’d take Devlin or McElroy in the 3rd or 4th rounds, since both ran pro-style offenses and McElroy ran a WCO style system that he excels in!!
by NorCalFaithful on Jan 27, 2011 12:19 PM PST reply actions
Devlin runs the spread option.
McElroy’s system hides the fact that his humerus, radius, and ulna have been surgically replaced by overcooked linguini.
why do people keep saying devlin ran a pro style offense? In his highlights I only see the spread...
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 27, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno why but it is a spread offense he runs
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Did you see how dominant Stanford's D was.
It wasn’t even fair. Locker got sacked multiple times on the drop back.
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How is that an argument for Devlin?
He never had to play a good defense?
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
If they draft a WR, it should be Julio Jones or AJ Green in the 1st round!!! It stops there at WR. No other WR is worthy of the # 1 pick, but 2nd thru the 4th rounds should be fine!!! I think they should draft Peterson or Prince, but there is something else to think about too!!! What if we sign Asomoaha the former Raider CB and then pick Peterson as well? Move Clements to Safety so he dont get torched no more by slow ass recievers!!! What do you think about that senerio? Sounds Great to me!!! We can trade for a QB and draft one or free agengy either way i think we will be fine there!!! How about Alex Smith coming back?? With an offensive minded coach Like Peterson at Utah…Smith could flourish!!!!
New Thread:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/1/27/1959947/official-nfl-draft-thread-1-27-11-new
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