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Kyle Williams, Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan... And The Receiving Situation
by Drew Kerr on Jan 24, 2011 7:19 PM PST
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PrintI haven't done a non-draft thread in a while and felt like putting one together that addresses a rather important area. This post will address the wide receiver position which is a big piece of the puzzle and equation of the west-coast-offense.
I have been thinking about the current situation with the 49ers wide receivers. The current roster features Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Ted Ginn Jr., Kyle Williams, Dominique Zeigler. Kevin Jurovich, Bakari Grant, and Lance Long are all featured on the practice squad.
There has been discussion here and there since the season ended for the 49ers that there is still not a clear-cut number one receiver. This got me thinking quite a bit.
Do we need to spend a high draft pick again on another receiver? If so, who?
Are there any free agents out there that are worth pursuing? If so, who are they?
Do the 49ers already have their #1 and #2 on the current roster? Is it that they just haven't been able to peak due to the lack of competent coaching that was just here?
Those are all good questions - all worthy of asking. The important thing to do is to look at the big picture. Every single one of the 49ers wide receivers brings a unique aspect.
Recently, it dawned on me that we may just have the number one receiver on this roster right now. I had the privilege of getting to watch him in person on a few different occasions. The one thing I remember most about him as I watched, was just how explosive he was. He did not get a chance to play last season due to injury. And if you haven't guessed who at this point, well let me enlighten you. Kyle Williams has the potential to be our version of DeSean Jackson. Yes, I made the comparison. He may not have been drafted in the 2nd round like Jackson, but sometimes there are gems hidden in the later rounds. Williams just needs the chance to shine.
After the jump, I am going to provide a little more analysis on the five receivers who may be the ones to suit up every Sunday next year.
First, I'd like to attach a highlight feed of Williams while he attended ASU. Some of you after, or during the draft may not have seen what kind of talent this young talented athlete posseses.
Understand that this is a highlight feed. In a highlight feed, a player may seem unstoppable. I am not saying that Williams is that. No player is. And every single players has their flaws and weaknesses. One of Williams strengths however, is speed and very good hands. His route running is not the best, but he does tend to make very good cuts to shake the secondary to gain good separation.
Kyle Williams ran a 4.34 at his respective pro day. He also did his 20-yard shuffle in 2.59 seconds, followed by the 10-yard shuffle in 1.56. In other words, he's really, really quick and can make cuts with the best of them.
Ultimately, it's going to be up to Williams to emerge. It won't be easy, but solid performances in the preseason and camps could get him some real playing time in games. If he does well in those games, it could lead to more more reps. More reps, could lead to a starting position. And a starting position could wind up earning him the title of the number one receiver for the 49ers. It's a good thing for Williams that he faced Jim Harbaugh's team once a year for the duration of his collegiate career (minus his senior year in '09).
For some, it may seem like a long shot. But remember this... players emerge on teams rosters each and every year.
Now for Michael Crabtree. Crabtree has made some impossible balls to catch seem catchable. On the other side of the spectrum, he has made some insanely easy passes to him fall to the ground, or bounce up in to the secondary's hands.
I am partial to the idea that Crabtree still could be the number one receiver. In correspondence to where he was drafted, Crabtree should be the number one. From what most of what we have seen so far, he has not established himself as a true threat to opposing defenses. He can be contained and he can be stopped. Stopped rather easily at that. In 27 games, Crabtree has only had 100 yard games twice. His stats are subpar below where a true number one receivers should be. They are more inline with a teams second receivers production.
In essence, I think Crabtree's skill-set may be better suited as a slot receiver, a move-the-chains type of player if you will. Jerry Rice lined up in the slot quite a bit and ran slants taking them to the endzone. I am in no way comparing Crabtree to the greatest receiver ever to play the game. Just simply expressing that he can have a lot more success where he is better suited to play; out of the slot.
If Crabtree wants to be seen as the teams number one, he has much to prove. And we as fans are without question hungry to see more from the former Texas Tech wide receiver.
Josh Morgan is Josh Morgan. There is not a whole lot to say there other than that. He has been consistent in mediocrity since he became a 49er. But nothing more and nothing less was expected from the 6th rounder out of Virginia Tech. Morgan has good hands, but lacks concentration sometimes. He often is thinking about what he is going to do before he catches the pass. Another big flaw that Morgan has, is not going to the ground once he is wrapped up by 3 or 4 guys. Hey Josh, go down... you aren't going anywhere! Does anyone else feel like that? Anyhow, here are some highlights of Morgan.
Every time I see a ball wobble a bit in the air on any given pass, it always seems to remind me of Josh Morgan; "But... it came down like a punt coach". Ah, the good ol' Singletary days, they will be missed. In any case, there is no way that Morgan will be the one to emerge as the teams number one. If he does, it will not speak highly of the roster in terms of that position.
One thing that may hold true, is that Morgan is going to most likely secure that third spot and back up number two role in almost every single scenario. He does have talent. However, if Ginn ever decides to start catching passes on a regular basis, that could be all she wrote for Mr. Morgan. Zeigler has a good chance to emerge on the roster as well.
With that, let's take a look at the last two in Dominique Zeigler and Ted Ginn Jr.
TED GINN JR: Ginn is one of the fastest receivers in the NFL. He is excellent at returning kicks. Miami got rid of Ginn because he was unable to catch passes on a consistent basis. He has not dropped too many passes since he made the transition over to the west coast, but then again, he hasn't had a ton of opportunity which may speak deeper on what may be occuring though the weeks of practice leading up to the games. If Ginn could begin catching most everything, there is no doubt that he could be the number one. But he hasn't. And that's the point. Ginn is going to continue to return punts and kicks next year. That I know. But if Harbaugh thinks highly of him, he could be a guy that contributes a bit more for the 2011 season.
DOMINIQUE ZEIGLER: Zeigler is the tallest of the Niners receivers at 6'3". In his gear, he looks even taller than that. He has very good hands, and I cannot recall if he even dropped a target his way before he got injured against Arizona in week 12. Zeigler will be back next season, but he is going to have to show more. I know that there were a lot of 49er fans excited when Ziggy made it off the practice squad. If Josh Morgan is not careful, Zeigler could be a sleeper to creep up and snatch the rug right out from underneath him to take his place. Zeigler had 9 catches for 98 yards last year.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Kyle Williams has a lot of upside. I like his agility. If we bring in anybody else, it has to be a veteran. Some age and experience is needed, if any. Crabtree will be our unquestioned number one, and I believe he can be.
Always love Ziggy, too.
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He def needs to show more.
He has not had that presence yet.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Crabs that is
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
JJ Crabs, that is...
he might just end up the new Stokes too. I think he has talent, but I don’t see him as a dominant WR. Morgan is pure meh to me. I’m gonna be interested in seeing these WR’s run actual routes other than the all go straight line deep routes. They will see the new playbook and be amazed at the arrows going across the patterns.
Really, the best WR is VD. That tells you about the WRs at this point. I’d rather see D-Love out there as a WR as opposed to Morgan at times too.
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Who is D-Love? I know I will prob feel dumb after you say, but I'm not sure who you mean.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Please no. Walker is a turnover waiting to happen every play. I wish the Niners would cut him, so I don’t lose a year of my life every time he touches the ball.
I think he's saying...
That Walker’s fumble-prone-ness makes him really anxious whenever he carries the ball. This comes and goes for me. With his usage rate, (3 fumbles in 83 career receptions) I wouldn’t expect him to fumble as much as he does.
Semi Worst Case Mock Draft: 1-Car: Fairley 2-Den: Petersen 3-Buff: Miller 4-Cinn: Green 5-Ari: Locker 6-Cle: Dareus 7-SFO: Quinn/Amukamara?
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Crabtree already runs excellent routes
by 49erEmpire on Jan 24, 2011 8:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
whats a route without separation?
I heard he struggled vs Clements in practice……WOOOOW!!!!
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
hahaha i was drinking milk while reading this, and now its on my keyboard, too funny
by Edrick Willis on Jan 24, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Crabtree vs Clements
That makes sense, Crabtree is slow enough for Clements to dominate. Plus, Crabtree’s main weakness is that he does not run even ‘decent’ routes consistently. That has been explained as secondary to not having a full preseason yet and to coming from an ad lib spread system at Texas Tech. I agree with a poster above who suggested he was better suited as a slot receiver than as a true #1. Then his lack of speed would not be such a liability and his good hands could be more useful.
not at all
Look he just needs a qb to throw him the ball, thats all and we dont have one yet.
bleesed be
offensive minded coach guys remember that
crabs breaks out this year 70 catches 1000 yards and 12 tds
1st round- Cam Newton 2nd round-jimmy smith 3rd round- Noel Devine 4th round- Owen Mariecic 4th round-Jonathon Baldwin 5th round-Aaron Williams 6th- Jerrell Powe 7th- Kai forbath
by willis is god 52 on Jan 25, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
o and guys.....ill bet anything that teams will always put there best db on crabtree thats wat i call a number one reciever
1st round- Cam Newton 2nd round-jimmy smith 3rd round- Noel Devine 4th round- Owen Mariecic 4th round-Jonathon Baldwin 5th round-Aaron Williams 6th- Jerrell Powe 7th- Kai forbath
by willis is god 52 on Jan 25, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
Nah
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
please for the love of god no.
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Desean Jackson was drafted in the 2nd round.
Not important…i guess, just saying. I’m not a big crabtree fan at all. he just seems to lack the focus of an elite reciever.
by bruddah on Jan 24, 2011 7:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
But we got what's his name, so no big loss there
(I’m crying on the inside)
Yeah, not important...
except that we passed him up TWICE that draft!!! Once for Balmer and once for Rachal…. BALMER?? RACHAL?? FML!
Sorry…. venting again…. everyone must share my pain right now.
by SanFranFan4Life on Jan 25, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
They do
but I’m absolutely convinced that they wouldn’t have been as good if they were on the Niners.
We may have grabbed DeSean Jackon and been pissed because we didn’t get Rachal instead. The Niners have been dysfunctional. It’s possible that Jackson succeeded because he is in Philly and not here for the same reason as Rodgers in GB, etc..
Can he stop the run and occupy blockers
Kellen Moore is awesome
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sometimes struggles to get off of blocks and w. double-teams
but he’s been “unblockable” according to some scouts at the Senior Bowl.
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Thats what we need is a guy that needs two guys but still does his job.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3
That is very true-it's quite possible they wouldn't have shined
But it’s fun to complain about them anyways :)
Desean Jackson is not a Number 1
He is a go route receiver and if you catch him over the middle, I am sure he will think twice if Mays is in the area.
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I'm guessing you're talking about special teams?
"I have a picture of him, I look at it everyday on my computer screen." (Jim Harbaugh referring to Bill Walsh)
Crabtree can be a #1 WR
he needs to mature as a receiver, and also needs to actually get a QB to throw him the ball. I believe that 2011 will be a do or die year for him. I think that Josh Morgan is a good #3 WR, just not a solid #2. On that note, the 49ers may want to think about going to route of the veteran to compliment Crabtree. Owens, Edwards and Holmes come to mind first.
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 24, 2011 7:29 PM PST reply actions
Uh Huh
totally agree, he needs an actual QB to get him the ball. He has great hands, runs good routes and has all the tools to be the #1. He finally gonna get some damn coaching to improve his game and just have to continue to mature. K. Williams really intrigues me. He has some good skills and decent speed. If he can develop and stay away from injuries he can be a very good player.
Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh
Kyle Williams
That is the first time in his career that he has been severely injured. He missed one game in ’09 against Stanford, but other than that he was healthy his entire collegiate career. I chalk that up to being a fluke.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
do or die? why? its micheal crabtree hes gunna be the patrick willis of our ''0''
1st round- Cam Newton 2nd round-jimmy smith 3rd round- Noel Devine 4th round- Owen Mariecic 4th round-Jonathon Baldwin 5th round-Aaron Williams 6th- Jerrell Powe 7th- Kai forbath
by willis is god 52 on Jan 25, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions
The video link's will not embed and it's super frustrating. Here are the links. Sorry for the confusion.
Can we not embed video in FanPosts anymore or something like that?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
No #1 Receiver is Possible w/o having a #1 QB
None of these WRs you mentioned have had a decent NFL QB throwing to them in their NFL careers to date.
Until they do, we can’t know much about any of them.
Calvin Johnson?
No QB for the better part of his career, still puts up star numbers
But I agree that WE NEED A QB.NOW.
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"I have a picture of him, I look at it everyday on my computer screen." (Jim Harbaugh referring to Bill Walsh)
Concerning the WRs...
Let me start out by saying how much I hate the way Josh Morgan plays…he’s slow…real slow…when he runs, he takes long strides drags his feet, thus making it almost impossible for him to get any separation from DBs. His hands are also, IMO, tied for the worst on the team along with Ted Ginn.
Crabtree has so much damn potential, but I hate his tendancy of stopping on routes. He does so, extending his arms forward with the hopes of catching the ball and having an opportunity to juke some DBs and gain more yardage. The downside is that this fails most of the time and he ends up getting knocked, usually without the ball in his hands. And I know that he prides himself on having great hands, but overall this season, he, too, had his fair share of drops.
Why do we not bring in Terrell Owens and/or Randy Moss and trade Morgan (for a 6th/7th rounder?) in 2011? Having veterans from whom Crabs and the rest of the youngsters can learn from will be a great benefit and also instill a more competitive tradition among the WR corps.
Bandwagoners are the prostitutes of fandom.
morgans worth more then 6th or 7th rounder
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
but i would like him traded
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
so you WANT
TO and Moss to mentor Crabbs?
wow, thats like saying you want your daughter to date Mike Tyson
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 25, 2011 1:13 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
what about antonio bryant?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
... maybe bringing TO back wouldn't be a bad idea
He was productive in Buffalo (as much as one can be) without causing any drama. He had a solid season with the Bengals, although admittedly the team as a whole sucked. Maybe if TO were to come back to his first home, he would be happy and emotionally balanced enough to be a positive influence both on the field and in the locker room?
Yeah, it sounds crazy to me as I write it, but it’s not completely impossible.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
omg. I love this reply. thank you. Thank you so very much.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
josh has a long stride it looks like hes going slow but hes not
he needs to finish the play tho. he always gets caught always, at either the 1 or 2 yard line. and i played b ball with morgan he can dunk, so he deeds to start going for jump balls better catch the ball at its highest point hes the strongest and has the most hopps.
1st round- Cam Newton 2nd round-jimmy smith 3rd round- Noel Devine 4th round- Owen Mariecic 4th round-Jonathon Baldwin 5th round-Aaron Williams 6th- Jerrell Powe 7th- Kai forbath
by willis is god 52 on Jan 25, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
Crabtree? Morgan? Ginn? Williams I like most of all, but come on we are in dire need of a true #1. Crabtree will not become a must double player, he can’t even outrun most linebackers, then he has that horrific celebration after his first and last catch in the 33rd quarter. I will say in every WRs defense qb play has been atrocious. However, I know what I’m looking at, we need a player teams don’t want to guard one on one which will help everyone on offense, a burner, or a big WR, leave Ginn as the 4th WR, dump Morgan and add a number 1. If Green falls to us trade him to Dallas for Roy W and a first rounder……lol
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
haha no gm for you rlott#42
we can draft baldwin in the 3rd round and drop ziegler hes a toothpick
1st round- Cam Newton 2nd round-jimmy smith 3rd round- Noel Devine 4th round- Owen Mariecic 4th round-Jonathon Baldwin 5th round-Aaron Williams 6th- Jerrell Powe 7th- Kai forbath
by willis is god 52 on Jan 25, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Baldwin is slow
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
We need a big deepball target, not necessarily a #1.
See Baldwin, Jonathan, round 2
Slow
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Justin Blackmon
If we want to get a good WR then we should trade down to 15 or so, get more picks for this draft or next years and draft Justin Blackmon. This kid is a beast, if he declares for the draft I would not mind having him at all. in my opinion he is better than Dez Bryant and he turned out great for the cowboys. Oh and he broke all these records that belonged to Andre Johnson. I dont know if you have heard of him or not but he is kind of a beast.
by HappyHourSomewhere on Jan 24, 2011 8:44 PM PST reply actions
The kid has already stated he is staying in school. Old news, he isn’t available in this years draft.
In Jed We Trust?
He said wait til next years draft
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
i didn't know
i guess we have to wait til next year now
by HappyHourSomewhere on Jan 24, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Justin Blackmon was second to Dez Bryant at OSU.
Dez is head and shoulders better than Blackmon. I think Blackmon will start, but he’s not gonna be a Pro Bowler.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I disagree with you there Drew
Blackmon was unstoppable last season.
I think he’s going to get better too.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
When they were on the same roster at the same time, Dez Bryant was head and shoulders better.
I am a Big 12 fan, so I pay attention to that conference a bit more than any other. It was like the difference between Josh Morgan and Michael Crabtree.
Don’t get me wrong, Blackmon is going to be good. I really have nothing to indicate or go off of to suggest he would be better in the NFL than Bryant. Dez killed it last year and was the only bright spot on that roster. There is a reason that a HOFer gave up his jersey to him. Bryant killed it for me in fantasy points… and he was a rookie. Let’s wait a bit longer before annointing Blackmon being better than Bryant.
Their sophomore seasons were really similar though, so the potential is there for Blackmon. And he could be the number one rated WR coming out next year if he repeats his success. 45 year old QB Brandon Weeden is going back too, so he has that going for him. Bryant had Zac Robinson throwing him passes, so there is a difference there too.
We will see what happens though.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Good point on the QB differences there
To this day I am still shocked by what I saw Blackmon do to the Baylor Bears.
I do think he can be better than Bryant though, but that’s also because I don’t think Bryant will ever be consistently great at the NFL level (injuries/other issues).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 1:47 AM PST up reply actions
Hey guys, this year's draft features a wide receiver that is like..
6’6 …i forget his name though it was like DeAndre Brown or something..we should definitely take him…he’ll be around the 5th-6th round or even higher cause of his potential
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
We need a receiver like that..a reliable one.
One that automatically becomes a mismatch, sure he’ll need development..but that is something to drool about.
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
Southern Miss guy.
He is kinda slow but excellent hands. He would be a decent possession receiver, but we already have too many of those.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
not really, just guys who can catch the ball and give effort on every play.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
He can be developed..i'm sure of that.
And he’ll have excellant hands right ?? I think thats perfect considering the fact that we are going to do a lot of short passes now (WCO). And what’s there to lose? We might as well reach for him in the 4th round w/ one of our picks.
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
I don't think that we need any new WRs for next season
I’m so excited about what Coach Harbaugh and his staff bring to the table from the perspective of understanding how to coach offensive football (defense, too, but that’s for another thread). Our WRs and QBs have not been impressive, but have not been in a situation that cultivates that.
I was so impressed watching Stanford’s offense the past two years (and I am definitely NOT a Stanford fan), the offensive coaches understood how to use their personnel to their maximum advantage, unlike the 49er dunderheads who were trying to “force square pegs into round holes”, having NO concept of how to use their personnel.
Has anyone else noticed how other teams pick up players through trades or waivers, give them a week or two to learn the system, and then plug them in and they play successfully, but that something like that didn’t happen around here? That’s because our coaches had NO clue as to how take advantage of an individual player’s talents, expecting new additions to automatically become Larry Csonka or Jerry Rice, then letting them wallow on the bench when they didn’t, and claiming that it would take untold months for that player to “learn the playbook”.
I believe in our new coaching staff, and can’t wait to see our players perform when put into situations which give them high possibilities of success.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
by OldJock on Jan 24, 2011 9:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Well said.
Except even if we don’t draft a WR high, I don’t think it would be a waste of time to bring in a guy from the 5th-7th Round…possibly even an UDFA or two as well. Competition breeds success.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I mean Kyle Williams was a 6th, so they are definitely out there.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Drew, what do you think about these possibilities?
Austin Pettis in the 4th.
Greg Little or Cecil Shorts or Greg Salas in the 5th.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 25, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
I like Little, Shorts, and Salas
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
exactly, and the steelers picked up that guy that used to be a niner what was his name?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
I still think Crabtree will come around
And I agree with the posters above, the receivers we have need good coaches and QB play.
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
I'm just Crabtree's mom
Opps!! No, really I’m not!
On the other hand, who is rlott#42? Are you like the anti-Crabtree?
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
I am so glad you posted this
I was thinking we did not have any elite wide receivers, and we haven’t really had any since TO. I think Crabtree could be really good for us, just waiting for someone to come in and throw accurate passes. Alex Smith did not have chemistry with him, but he sure found success with Davis.
Morgan in my opinion is just not fast enough, he seems to be never open, and when he eventually is, he either drops it or is overthrown. But he did have a few good games this year, and I would keep him as a 3rd receiver.
Zigggyy! In my opinion could be the best receiver. He may be really skinny, but he is so tall and has such long arms. He runs precise routes, and he could stretch his arms out for difficult catches. THe only concern is his weight, I am afraid he would easily get hurt when those safeties come smacking.
Williams, I havn’t seen him receive so I have no idea.
Ginn, I think if they spread out 5 receivers, and had everyone else doing slants and short routes, but have Ginn do a streak, he could be dangerous. it works in Madden! lol. I see him more as a kick returner than a reliable receiver
I've been saying it for some time now,
I think Doug Baldwin is the WR we should target coming out of the draft.
He’s been Luck’s #1 target at Stanford and knows Harbaugh’s playbook. Sure, he’s not a beastly target (he’s 5’11") like some guys envisioned as a prototypical number 1 receiver, but we have too many needs to be addressing a high draft pick on another WR, and the FA’s out there will either be destructive to the team, or cost us way too much.
I see Baldwin as a player on par with Steve Smith (NYG). He’s reliable, great route runner, and can move the chains.
As for the guys discussed in the post, Crabs has to be the #1. Williams is a yet to be seen talent, considering his injured status combined with lack of use; and we know what we’re getting out of Ginn and Morgan – not (so) much.
I think overall we can focus our passing attack on our dynamic TE’s and a plethora of quality receivers – like Crabs and DOUG BALDWIN.
Super Bowl XXIV: 49ers 55 - Broncos 10
It's Johnathan Baldwin
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
*correction
Jonathan Baldwin (no “h”)
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
You were talking about the Stanford WR... who isn't as high of a rated prospect as Jonathan
So I was mixed up. You threw me off a bit.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I would rather have Whalen.
We already have Kyle Williams and Ted Ginn. We don’t need anymore receivers like that really. IMHO anyway.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I dont think they fill the same needs
We don’t need anymore receivers like that really
I see Baldwin as more of short route runner, and these guys as ones that would stretch the field or catch a ball and out run the D (ideally). Like I said above, I see Baldwin in the same mold as Steve Smith (g-men/USC), both smaller guys who move the chains.
Super Bowl XXIV: 49ers 55 - Broncos 10
Whalen
I know Whalen and went to school with him. He is a work fiend. Absolute freak in the gym and while he is naturally gifted his work ethic is what is taking him to the next level.
Good to know. Thanks for the info.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
plays for pitt
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
*jonathan baldwin does
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
jonathan baldwin is going to be very good IMO
i see the patriots drafting him to continue their youth overhaul of the offense. last year was the TE’s and defense this year will be OL, WR and RB.
at 6’5 230 pounds, 4.4 speed and great hands he has the ability to do what he wants anywhere on the field. he also has very good leaping ability. he’s going to be a handful for CB’s to tackle and is easily my favorite WR in this draft
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
that's great and all
I’m still talking about Doug Baldwin. Knows the playbook and can be attained at a much lower round. Jonathan may be good too, but in what round?
Super Bowl XXIV: 49ers 55 - Broncos 10
I'd rather have Ryan Whalen personally.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
disagree
I watched a fair amount of Stanford this year and last, and Baldwin was consistently Luck’s bail-out target, always seeming to find open space and create first downs. Whalen was there, but was kinda an after thought. Additionally, Whalen did didley-squat in the Shrine game.
Super Bowl XXIV: 49ers 55 - Broncos 10
I watched a few games too.
And yeah, statistically Baldwin is better. Whalen just rarely drops a ball. Baldwin did get open a bit more frequently though. I guess if they were both sitting there at the same spot and we HAD to pick one or the other… I’d flip a coin.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Jonathan is a borderline 1st/ 2nd Rounder
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
He's this years Bey-Bey Thomas
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
i disagree
baldwin has talent. lol. we will see though
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 24, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Crabs definitely has the talent to be #1
He just needs an offense and a quarterback that will get him the ball. His rep is YAC and thats what the west coast offense is best for. I think the best is definitely to come.
Crabs has potential
Crabs can be an elite reciever if he becomes more consistent and stops being such a f*%king diva, if he puts In the work he can get there, let’s have him run some hill with Jerry and he’ll be set
by ninersince94 on Jan 24, 2011 11:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I hope Harbaugh minimizes the celebrations after the score.
I mean not completely… but all the photo taking and all that crap… he has to put to rest. Guys really need to think before they do anything. I’ve always respected the Jerry Rice’s and Barry Sanders’ much better. Just score..hand the ball to the ref. Jerry used to get pumped up when he scored sometimes, but you’d never see him high-stepping in to the endzone or doing tha stanky leg after he went in for six.
Sometimes it’s entertaining and stuff, but I’d rather watch other teams doing all that on Sportcenter. It’s too risky and just not worth the penalties.
Sorry that was off topic, but the post above mentioned something about Crabs being a diva (which I btw disagree with), but it just made me thought of all the dumb celebration penalties the 49ers have got in the last couple years.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Me too
it pissed me off to see all the hot doggin. Especially when we were a losing team. 0-5, 1-6..Guys were still dancing and prancing. I was baffled. Like dude look at your record. It should be stopped on our team. V.Davis toned it waaay down. I think they should keep the dancing out of our stadium.
by STELF BOMBZ on Jan 24, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
i want more celebrating
the game is entertainment, let them entertain us.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
sorry but the premature celebration fumble on the endzone came roght to mind.
In that part of football Sanders is in a class of his own.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
are you implying something?
I wanted to kill that guy
then you answered
Act like you have been there before
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Lets be clear
Crabtree’s, along with Davis’ fates have been directly linked to an ailing system driven by Jimmy Raye/Mike Johnson, Mike Singletary, and the horrible QB and offensive line play. Contrarily, Josh Morgan seemed to flourish against the same odds. HMMMMMM??? Don’t know what to make of that. Let’s hope Jim Harbaugh is who we think he is.
and let's not let him off the hook if he is
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
i think it had to do with the relathionship between qb and wideout/te
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 25, 2011 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
antonio dui bryant?
is he better?
who wants to trade morgan for 3rd and 4th round pick?
let kyle wiliams play please.
also
vd will have 1,500 yards receiving with harbaugh as head coach
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Ginn
However, if Ginn ever decides to start catching passes on a regular basis, that could be all she wrote for Mr. Morgan.
I haven’t seen much reason to this is gonna change anytime soon. His hands have always been a problem and I just don’t see him turning it around anytime soon. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Hopefully.
But at least he provides some fireworks in the return game if not.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Kinda hard to evaluate anyone on this team from past performance's with the coache's and scheme we had ...
… this whole next year might just be that , a complete evaluation of the entire roster …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
well , on second thought we do know Andy Lee is god , don't think coaching can effect kicking the ball ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
I predict Lee's numbers will dwindle this year
at least the freakin better…
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Actually they shouldn't
since Punters stats are based on punts on average.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3
I knew someone would chime in with the obvious
I just didn’t know who it would be.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Free Agency
Malcom Floyd
6’5" 225 with an official 4.44 40 and a 38 inch vertical leap (rookie measurables in 04 where he was an UDFA)
He’ll be a whole lot cheaper than a guy like TO, Moss, or his teammate VJack, and he’s a matchup nightmare.
Put him as the number one on the opposite side from VD, with Crabs in the slot beside him.
by Ougadas on Jan 25, 2011 5:52 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Is Floyd a free agent?
Because if he is I love the idea
Floyd-Crabtree-Morgan with Williams mixed in could be something
by ManBearPig21 on Jan 25, 2011 6:08 AM PST up reply actions
no.......
Wasn’t number 1 when Jackson went down. We need a game change that can turn a seven yard pass to 6 and that ace Ventura pic in game threads.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
Well ok...
You wait for another DeSean Jackson to come out, and for us to recognize him, and be in the right draft position, and not have gaping holes in our roster that prevent us from taking another WR.
Because there isn’t one in this draft… and there isn’t one in free agency.. and when there is.. the team who has them isn’t going to let them go anywhere.
I’ll take the guy who can beat a corner 7 inches shorter than him 35 yards downfield and grab a ball that the corner doesn’t have a chance in hell of getting a hand on.
Oh, I'm all for this
This guy is GOOD
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
This blog is so obsessed with late round draft picks
Love Kyle, great #3 as a deep threat, could even see him running some slot/wes welker type plays to take advantage of his speed, but he is a long ways from a #1 receiver….a long ways.
I know its fun to root for guys we drafted and late round picks who become stars are a great story but in the long run those guys are few and far between and its just plain unrealistic to think that a 6th round pick who sat most of his rookie year is ever going to be a #1 guy, let alone next year.
His career celign is probably closer to being Tedd Ginn Jr. Jr.
this
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Jan 25, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
This is getting ridiculous
All the needs on our team and people aren’t happy with our receivers? How are we supposed to properly evaluate our talent with what has been happening in our offense the last few years. Crabs can’t get separation? Maybe when we have a legitimate scheme/QB it will get a little easier for him to be he playmaker every scout in the league said he was. And in case you forgot, he balled his rookie year when we were playing Alex in the shotgun every snap.
And now you’re killing Josh? Come one guys. How many 6th round picks do you think could average over 500 receiving yards a season and multiple TDs in your first 3 years with the bs offense we have had? I admit the kid has issues, but you don’t think with a legit offense he can be a number 2? With VD/DW and Crabs drawing away attention?
Kyle is a player, loved the pick last year. Fact of the matter is he has to stay healthy. We need a slot guy bad and Ginn is never gonna be a consistent NFL receiver. But in the end I see us running a lot of 2 tight end sets with 2 receivers. It perfectly fits our personnel. So before people lose their minds and say we “need” to take a receiver at 7, put down the pipe and recognize the real team needs.
"In basketball -- as in life -- true joy comes from being fully present in each and every moment, not just when things are going your way." -Phil Jackson
Milldoo, you're letting too much common sense get in the way of your inalienable fan(atic) right to rant and rave.
Don’t you know that after every loss, you’re supposed to say “Fire Sing, Cut Alex!!”. And when we miss the playoffs, the team needs to be sold and restructured, there’s a hole at every position and there’s obviously a conspiracy among the coaches just to PISS US OFF!! You’re not required to be reasonable – that’s boring – you’ll never draw any attention that way.
Don’t tell anyone but I too am curious to see what level of talent is revealed in our current WRs by implementing the WCO and working with some decent coaches and coordinators. CB@ 7.
by DeathValleyCarl on Jan 25, 2011 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
My bad
I always forget that the internet is just a tool for ludicrous statements rather than thoughtful discussion. I can get a little carried away thinking about what might happen in reality for the team rather than what would happen in Narnia. By the way, gotta love that new fanpost about Madden GM skills. Thats what this blog should be all about.
On that note, have we seen all the bs people have been throwing at Cutler? Lets promise this blog will never stoop so low as to burn a player’s jersey/call for his head after he takes us back to the NFC championship game.
"In basketball -- as in life -- true joy comes from being fully present in each and every moment, not just when things are going your way." -Phil Jackson
first
there are a lot of insightful people and posts on this blog. This is what you call the after the season, pre-draft lull.
Second, I don’t think I’ve seen ANYONE say take a WR in the first.
And Third, a friggin men about the Cutler issue. If they hate him so much, We’ll take him. Even with our line he won’t be taking 50+ GD sacks.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Too late, they're out at Candlestick having a BBQ off the flames of Alex Smith jersey's.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Ziegler should play, but ONLY if he brings back the 'fro
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Same problem
The problem at receiver is the same as at QB. COACHING!! The play calling and game planning was terrible to say the least. To succeed the players need to have faith in both. The coaches were so ill prepared almost every game for the team they were playing. What works against team X doesn’t against team Y or Z. I you only plan what you want every game the other team will shut it down. Receivers will not get open and so both the receivers and QB look bad and get blamed.
agreed
WR is not nearly as big of a problem as finding a consistent pass rush or improving our CBs. With (hopefully) competent coaching and preparation now, there’s no excuse to not at least be at worst a decent offense, with the potential to be in the top half of the league overall. Elite defense with bleh offense >> elite offense with bleh defense. Our offensive priority should be on a QB, I don’t want a WR before round 4, maybe in the 3rd if someone falls unexpectedly
by monkey spanker on Jan 25, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Why not VD and a #1?
Imagine VD, Jackson, Crabtree, Morgan, Williams, Ginn, and Gore in an intelligent system and creative coaches calling unpredictable plays. Who would you concentrate on? Someone would be open every play.
Staying optimistic with what we currently have
I’m thinking whatever WCO Harb will be bringing is going to work more to our current receiving corps’ favor, primarily Crabs, Morgan & Ziegler. They all IMO are the type that would thrive in the WCO. Ziegler I think will establish himself more if he can bulk up a little bit. Crabs & Morgan don’t necessarily have the height, but they have the size and physicality to make things happen after the catch.
Ginn & Williams may not be the type of receivers one would think is ideal for the WCO, but they still could be used every so often to open up the passing game more. We obviously didn’t see a whole lot of that this season. However, I think that will change. KW definitely has the hands for it, so I think he can become a factor. Ginn has his hands issues, but still provides the threat.
I still think we can add one more good-sized, physical receiver for depth. Doesn’t matter to me if it’s through the draft or FA.
Also, the OL is going to play a major factor in how potent this passing game is going to be. I’m really glad Harb decided to make the OL coaching team a 3-man operation. I think we’re going to see way better pass protection next season. That will open up a lot of possibilities for this offense.
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Really? Who is the Eagles #1 receiver?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/stats
You do realize you’re wrong, don’t you?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Please don’t say Maclin either.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I agree with this
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
really
your going to judge him after the Singletary\Raye\Johnson regime? I think I’d wait another year.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Maclin has been VERY good for the Eagles
Coming out of the draft it was certain that Maclin had better physical tools but I had doubts as to whether he would be able to run good routes and learn an NFL playbook.
He’s put all that together and now he’s a really good WR.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 27, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
agree
Maclin did much more for me in Fantasy this year then crabs
by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Jan 27, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
he also had Mike Vick freaking out the secondary
he also has DJax freaking out the secondary
he also has McCoy freaking out the entire defense
With our offense last year it makes sense he would do better than Crabs
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Crabs has something extra
we’ve only seen it a few times but I’m pretty sure we’ll see it again
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
lol
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 26, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Please explain how Desean “Should-Be-A-Niner” Jackson is not the #1 WR for Philly?
by SanFranFan4Life on Jan 25, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Number One Recievers
Relate more to a specific skill set or position preference rather than pure talent. Jackson is ridiculous no doubt, but asking him to go up and fight with corners and safeties a la Fitz, Andre Johnson, or Calvin Johnson would be unwise. Those guys are true number ones. Is he philly’s main receiving target? absolutely, but that doesnt make him a Number One. If that made any sense. I’m sure there are others here who could explain it better than me.
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
You lost me at "relate"
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Really?
I mean I know this is by far the least eloquently worded comment Ive ever made, but I figured my general Idea would get through if someone would read it. Just because a guy is a teams best receiving target doesn’t necessarily make him the de facto Number One Receiver. I personally feel that those are the biggest most talented guys. Like the Johnson’s and Fitzgerald. I just see DeSean for what he is, the ultimate speed weapon.
If you have an issue with what I write, then please do me the courtesy of replying with constructive criticism, or asking for clarification. Saying that you lost me after my first word shows an ignorance to read what others peoples thoughts are. I welcome opinions differing to my own, but its hard to gauge what others think, or if I am even on the right track is tough when the best thing you can come up with was that. I get that it is all my opinion, but I felt in the context of SanFran’s comment I would put my own opinion of why Desean is not the Number One. Number one receiving target, yes, Number one receiver, no. I just have a hard time qualifying him as one when he does not have the size and or physical nature of the aforementioned Johnson’s, etc…
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
I think I get what you're saying about Jackson...
If it fair to assume you’re saying you don’t think he is a dominant WR? Is that a more apt way of putting it?
Bite my shiny metal sig
Here goes...
Jackson is one of the best receivers in the game, and he is by far Philly’s best. I think where my opinion differs from others is that I consider the terms “Best Receiver” and “Number One Receiver” differently. I guess in my mind a true Number One has always been that big, strong guy, like the Johnson’s, who has good speed, great hands, but can fight with the best of them. For me, number one receiver refers to a position rather than a ranking. I can see where many would look at that and shake their heads. But i guess that is just my opinion. Philly IMO doesn’t have a Number One in my mind, but rather a deadly combination of two’s and threes that can kill with speed. I think that Drew and others who read my initial comment thought I was nuts, which I can see why they would think that. But once again I tend to differentiate between the two aforementioned terms. Just like people say that Crabtree is our Number One, but he should in reality be a number two behind a stronger and faster guy with a completely different skillset. Once again I guess I just view the term Number One Receiver as a position listing rather than a measure of someone’s dominance
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
I see what you're saying..
You’re idea of a true #1 is what I would call a ‘dominant’ WR, like Micheal Irvin or Terrell Owens. Jerry Rice was dominant in the respect he knew the offense so well that he was always in the right spot to catch a ball in stride because he ran exceptional routes, positioned himself well for a catch, and had great hands.
I see your point on Jackson, and I agree somewhat. On the current 49er squad, he would be the #1 WR, but not as dominant a receiver as Vernon Davis. It doesn’t mean Jackson is a true #1. It’s because IMO Crabtree and Morgan haven’t shown either one of them a true #1 yet either.
Now am I crazy for thinking that?
Bite my shiny metal sig
Yep
That is what I was trying to get at, I just used about 500 too many words, haha. And don’t worry, we’re all a little crazy here on Niners Nation.
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
if he's philly's main recieving target
then why does he have so few catches compared to other recievers
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 25, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Why does he have so many more TDs and yards?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
because he doesn't?
he doesn’t have many more yards than maclin and he has 4 fewer TD’s, but thanks for playing
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 25, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Teams have to double DeSean which leaves the other guys open.
Maclin and Avant don’t draw double teams. That’s why they have more catches.
1000+ yards on 47 catches is just phenomenal. His career average is 18.2 yards per catch.
Jackson will join the ranks of guys like Willie Gault and Paul Warfield once his career is over. He could wind up with that specific record too. That’s how good he is.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
comparing the overrated maclin to desean is like comparing morgan to crabtree
desean is the most dynamic player in the NFL, and after calvin, the second best WR in the league
Can't agree with the second part
and after calvin, the second best WR in the league
Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and maybe even Dwane Bowe deserve mention.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 1:50 AM PST up reply actions
NoooOOOOoooo LOL
You didn’t just break out with Dwayne Bowe, did you? Vincent Jackson …or Reggie Wayne …or ….LOL anyone but Bowe.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Roddy White
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I think Reggie Wayne is done
I don’t like VJ personally, so I guess that’s on me.
And dammit you’re right, I forgot Roddy White (the guy that helped me reach the playoffs in FF this season).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
Oh
And I think Bowe had a tremendous year with Matt Cassel throwing him the ball.
He has some talent.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
VD does as well
Isn’t stopping him from shredding defenses
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
yeah sorry i meant second best young WR in the league
Andre Johnson is the best WR in the league imo without doubt. I’d say Calvin is second, and Larry third. Reggie and Roddy White complete the top 5 imo. Bowe is extremely talented, but not top 5 yet.
This year only?
He’s been playing longer than that dude.
Not to mention the fact that he missed time due to injury (concussion) this season.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 1:48 AM PST up reply actions
jackson is their home run hitter
he has amazing explosive speed but is not nearly consistant enough to be #1. He only had around 47 catches on the year. Maclin had over 70 and around the same # of yards. He’s the one that kept their offense going and kept drives alive. It’s evident if you watch any amount of eagles games. I have as I currently live in PA and have a lot of friends who are eagles fans. And it’s evident in the stats. Sometimes you have to look beyond the sports center highlight reels to see what’s going on.
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 25, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
I watched a lot of Eagles games,
maybe every one, this season because I had Vick, DeSean, McCoy and Maclin on my fantasy teams! So, I saw plenty of DeSean Jackson and Maclin and the rest of the Philly offense. IMHO, I thought that DeSean was the clear #1 WR, and the opposing defenses played him accordingly by shading his way and double teaming him. It was obvious that the attention was on him. Isn’t that what we’re talking about in a #1 WR? Someone to take double teams and draw the attention of the D so that other players have more room to thrive, all the while gaining over 1,000 yards? Not to mention that he sat out one game this season. I just don’t understand what more it takes to be considered a #1?
by SanFranFan4Life on Jan 26, 2011 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
jackson is an amazing big play guy
But doesn,t have the same consistancy that maclin has. Maclin had slightly lower yards, around 30 more catches and 4 more touchdowns.
That's because...
Jackson draws the attention of the defense because he can go for 6 at any given moment. That’s a pretty darn good #1 WR: Draws the D’s attention and gets double teamed, while still putting up massive numbers and is a threat to take it to the house every time he touches the ball, including when they put him back there to return punts, like against the Giants when he gave Coughlin a heart attack! I’d say he’s a pretty legit #1 WR.
by SanFranFan4Life on Jan 25, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Cive me "Ziggy!"
IMO, Dominique Zeigler is the best bet. He has spped like a Ted Ginn with the hands of Micheal Crabtree. The only thing standing in his way is opportunity. Crabs is a good receiver, but, he doesn’t have that coveted breakaway speed needed to seperate from his coverage. This is where Dominique shines. When you add in that he’s listed at 6’3", that can only spell disaster for the opposition. But, if the niners choose to make Crabs the #1, that’s still good for us, as that means Ziggy will get the #2 defender. Oops.
K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr
LMAO
He has spped like a Ted Ginn with the hands of Micheal Crabtree
Im guessing thats supposed to be “speed”.
If Zeigler was what you described above he would put Randy Moss to shame
Sorry for the typo...
but yes….Ziggy does have speed. Just not the experience.
K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr
Ziggy runs a 4.6 on his best day
Ginn has world class speed. Ginn would dust Ziggy in a 100 meter dash
He ran a 4.55 and a 4.60 in his 40 times.
I think Carson Palmer is faster.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
He's got good hands
Thats why he made the cut.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I agree with that
I just wish he was faster.
From what i have heard he is the Best route runner on the team
Williams
can he stay healthy?
He’s a smart guy, though, i think he benefits from a better coaching staff.
Healthy
Last year was the first time he has ever been injured like that. He missed 1 game his entire collegiate career. Why wouldn’t he be able to stay healthy? He’s young. He has been a pro year, I mean it’s not like he’s Chad Pennington or something and played 10+ years and only starred in half of them.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
didn't he have 2 separate injuries?
one in preseason and one in the reg season? ankle and hammy? can’t remember specifically.
he’s a talent, but it’s all potential at this point.
He hurt his toe severely in the preseason and then he got a broken finger.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
yeah turf toe
can happen to anyone and apparently is irritating and slow to recover from.
Is it draft day yet?
WILLIAMS is OUR ULTIMATE SLEEPER...
very good hands, very, very good speed, very good vision, and very, very shifty….a percy harvin type receiver and he will absolutely EXCEL in a system like harbaugh’s where he can get maximum YAC….the biggest knocks on him were his size and desire but i think with the right amount of reps he will show he has the desire…..we can absolutely do without j. morgan AND teddy ginn, unless of course we want to keep ginn exclusively as a return man because his hands are “TUUURRRIBLE”..
I really, really hope Harbaugh sees the talent with Williams.
He would have only got ST time with Sing/ Raye/ Johnson
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I think we have to take a WR in the first round.
You can’t win in the National Football League without multiple elite WR’s. As many of them as you can get. If there is any way we can trade up to get Green and Julio Jones, I’m all for it. With that much speed and athleticism who could possibly defend our GOCATCHAWESOME offense?
Trust me. It will work.
by 9isEnough on Jan 25, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
They both compare.
Do you have to be wisenheimer with every single post?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
wisenheimer
I love that word. My dad used to say that a lot back in the days.
I just disagree with some of the stuff you have been saying lately. I highly respect your opinion and the work you do on this board, but just seems like you are throwing the DeSean Jackson stuff, or the Barry Sanders stuff around a lot and I disagree.
You first said Titus Young, now it’s Kyle Williams as DeSean Jackson clones. Neither are as fast as DeSean, so I’m just curious as to what your basing it on?
Thats where you need to make the separation. You see it as I am saying they are exactly alike.
If two players have similarities and I draw a comparison, then it should be taken as I am saying they are exactly alike. No two players are exactly alike. But if they have smilarities, then they do.
I made the comparison between Titus Young and DeSean Jackson and you though I was nuts for it. Yet, Mike Mayock who is well-respected across the league and by many fans makes a comparison as well. It’s not that he was saying that they are EXACTLY the same, but there are enough things that they do in common to make the comparison, you see?
Same thing with Devine. I was completely shocked about his weigh-in, but his “style” the way he cuts are similar to Barry Sanders. He stops on a dime and makes people look really, really silly. I have seen him do ridiculous spin moves to shed tackles as well. You said he is more like Darren Sproles, right? I don’t see it because Sproles is more of a shifty straight-line runner. Is Devine the next Barry Sanders? Hell no. Nobody ever will be. But there’s always going to be comparison’s to past players in new ones… and current ones as well.
I hope that clears up a bit of our differences. You still may not see the comparison’s and maybe I should specify the similarities to elaborate more, but please don’t take me using an existing player, or a past player for that matter as I am saying there are the second coming.
The word “comparison” is there for a reason.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I took exception to Jackson and Young
because you said Young was as fast as Jackson. That’s why we got into the 40 time discussion.
I think those are two similar players yes, just like Locker has similarities to Alex Smith but they are still different players.
As for Devine, I think he is more similar to Sproles than Barry Sanders but that’s just me. I don’t think anyone coming out this year compares to Barry Sanders. He has good cutting ability, but Sanders could break your ankles at 200 pounds, Devine is 160 or whatever it was. He runs more like Sproles and again, it’s just my opinion, and you have yours. I’m’ just VERY wary of comparing guys coming out, who have yet to even be drafted, to once in a lifetime type of players.
AGAIN
I said he had speed to compare…. where does that say I said he runs a 4.29?
Sproles… He runs nothing like Sproles. Like I said, Sproles runs straight and doesn’t really have any moves. If you are speaking solely on size, then yeah, they compare.
You can be “weary” if you want… that’s you. But when comparing, once again, you need to take it with a grain of salt. But I don’t think you have ever conceded, so if you want to seem like a mule, then it is what it is.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I like the idea of KW starting
Not sure I wholly agree with him going above Crabs but will tell. Then go for a big guy in the draft. If we can get a guy like Tolliver, Pettis, or Little in the 4th that could be pretty sweet. And trade Morgan for a 6th or 7th.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 25, 2011 5:30 PM PST reply actions
What about Little(NC)?
Is he going back to school?
I remember you mentioned him before Drew.
Also on J. Baldwin:
I hear he can run a 4.4 40 but whenever I saw him he looked slow. What gives? Also, he was rendered completely ineffective at times this year. Again, what gives?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
No he will be available in the later rounds.
I still would love that pick up. He’s going to be a 3rd Round value in the back half of the draft.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I want him then
Use one of those 4th-7th round picks we have.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 1:51 AM PST up reply actions
terrible QB is the main problem
i also think he’s a slow starter, a build momentum up guy, but i think he’s going to be very good
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 26, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Well that's terrible
I want a guy that can get going right off the line.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
We lack explosiveness,
Play Williams and Ginn on the same plays, and watch the running game open up
Yeah.
If you stretch the field a few times, it keeps the defense honest. The only problem is that Ginn has trouble hanging on to passes. Although the deep ball was his forte at Ohio State.
I am sure Frank Gore would love that though. Back everyone out of the box, and Gore is unstoppable when healthy.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I think with Ginn
It has more become an issue of confidence. When he makes a couple of plays, he looks absolutely unstoppable for the rest of the game. I remember a couple of games at Miami he was fantastic – looked like he was back at Ohio State. 9th overall was too high for Ginn, and it didn’t help that Miami fans wanted Quinn from the start. Every dropped pass brought more and more criticism because he was drafted so high. I think if he gets a few games in a row without drops, a lot of his drops will start to decrease. How amazing was he on his kick-returns? I’d go as far as sayin he was top 3 more dangerous kick-returners last season – just unlucky he only broke one for a TD. I like Ginn and what he brings to the table – its a shame his contract is ending at the end of next season – but he was an absolute steal for a 5th and I hope we re-sign him anyways
He definitely could change a game in a matter of seconds.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
NO on GINN....
decent to good receivers rarely drop passes….great ones drop 1 once every bout 50 balls thrown their way….ginn will be lucky to catch 50% of the passes that come his way….PASS CATCHING ability has EVERYTHING to do with RECEIVING the ball and i hate to say it but teddy ginn jr DOES NOT catch enough passes to warrant a roster spot after next season IMHO…i mean T.O. has horrible hands and he looks like he’s got frickn glue on his hands compared to ginn…there is SOOOO much more to receiving than just being fast….and it is NOT confidence that is the issue, the plain and simple fact is that ginn is NOT AN NFL receiver….honestly if he isn’t able to win us a game or two from field position or a TD return next year, i wouldn’t bother because there are other capable guys out there that can serve more than ONE purpose…..and i’m not tryin to bash on him but i’ve seen enough to know we CAN’T go to him in any 3rd or 4th down situation and feel good about it and all of us know that’s the TRUTH..
by MUAJxxCEEM on Jan 26, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's too bad we don't have Shaun Hill still...
Ginn clutch in catching punts.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Ginn lacks toughness...
which makes his average hands into below average hands.
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I'd like some more plays where you have some burners go deep
out of the shotgun, then do a delayed handoff to the RB. The Patriots and Steelers do that play a lot.
Brady will take the snap, look as if he is going to pass while the RB blocks, then Brady hands to him. That takes the Corners and Safeties completely out of the play.
Or watch them get knocked off their routes at the LOS
And the quarterbacked sacked after 5 seconds.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 1:51 AM PST up reply actions
Not on every play,
just saying stretch the field with Williams and Ginn, and the running game will open up.
I'm just being a [site decorum]
But don’t forget that these small guys can have trouble getting off the LOS at times.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Eh
Some of the best DBs in the NFL do.
When facing those DBs, small WRs have problems.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
We don't need an overhaul but...
I fully expect Harbaugh to bring in some WR talent. It may seem like a luxury but when I think about Sing VS. Harbaugh, huge gap on the importance of WR depth. FA options I like are James Jones and Mike Sims-Walker. We’d have to over-pay for Jones though.
I think we can really really use a Percy Harvin type. Smaller, super fast, slot guy with RB skill set to tear it up underneath.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 26, 2011 12:00 AM PST reply actions
That's how we should use Brian Westbrook.
Line him in the slot from time to time with Gore in the backfield. Linebackers nightmare.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
True but I don't think he's quick enough anymore.
I think Sproles might be a free agent… Hmmmmm…
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 26, 2011 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
Oh Westrbrook is quicker than you give him credit for.
Plus, he is veteran that knows how to make guys miss still. He may be 30 years old, which isn’t exactly a spring chicken anymore, but he still a big time gamer.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I don't envision WB in a Harvin type of role
I don’t think he has that ability anymore. Harvin is a legit WR on top of a RB.
Westbrook is a good receiving RB.
Of course you don't.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Someone else mentioned
Malcom Floyd.
He’s got skills
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 1:52 AM PST up reply actions
It would have to be in the 2012 Draft
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Malcom
From the chargers.
not Michael from ND.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
my bad… it was late when I responded.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
All good
I’ve actually been confused by both of them before.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see Floyd for us.
He does have skills and could be the deep threat we’ve needed for a while. I just don’t see breaking the bank on him another team would. I don’t think his skill set would be the best for our scheme either.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 26, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
He definitely isn't a typical WCO guy
But he sure is an exciting player.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
WE HAVE A PERCY HARVIN TYPE...
his name is KYLE WILLIAMS….watch him get his chance and watch him show he BELONGS..
Maybe…. I’ll be rooting for him for sure but I don’t think he’s shifty enough, I don’t know much about him though. I also see Harbaugh bringing in his own guy if he thinks its a big enough need.
by Killin Me Smalls on Jan 28, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
crabs and williams..... 4 wide crabs, williams, vernon and delanie....unstoppable
with a confident qb n jh at the helm……..crabs is going to show why we drafted him and k.williams is our desean jackson.
if the line can hold blocks for 3+ seconds
with 4 WO they had better
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I'm gonna rec this Fanpost..
this should be an Official WR Fanpost like the QB Fanpost.
Bite my shiny metal sig
Thanks
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Now watch several new members post multiple redundant WR Fanposts..
Especially if Colin Cowherd mentions a tweet about TO.
Next up, multiple redundant draft Fanposts.
Bite my shiny metal sig
wouldn't want him before the 4th.
But only if we can get Marecic in the 5th.
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I'm for this as well
Toliver is very talented and will be available late.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 26, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I like both Ziegler and Williams BUT...
They both have the same injury bug problem!!! They can’t be any help to the team if they can’t stay healthy!!! So, if we’re talking about drafting a WR then I say we go get:
Jon Baldwin, WR Pitt 6’5" 230lbs 40 = 4.51
Productive, consistent, good route runner, huge target with great hands.
He is not a speed burner kinda guy but as I remember Rice ran a 4.61 at the combine so I don’t put much into the “speed” label at WR. What I like is big hands, big body, with long arms to catch balls outta the reach of puny CBs trying to cover tall WRs!!!
Plus we could trade down from the #7 spot, pick up another second round pick and get Baldwin in the late first round and use both second round picks to get speedy cornerbacks to help our awful secondary (this is only if CB’s Peterson or Prince are not available at #7 pick in round #1).
GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by NorCalFaithful on Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM PST reply actions
don't mind trading down at all...
IF there is someone harbaugh/baalke REALLY like and they KNOW they can get him a little later…otherwise an elite OLB/DE/CB/QB (in that order) would much better serve our team….
ALSO i still believe in crabs…that didn’t sound right…hahaha….but more often then not the 3rd year is when ‘they’ say receiver REALLY comes into his own and i’m hoping and thinking it likely will happen for crabs this year and people will forget that fact and automatically assume it’s because of coach….either way with crabs, vd, kyle williams, ziggy i have a lot of faith in our receiving corps..
Re: Ziggy and Williams
It’s been one season… It hasn’t been like they’ve been in the league for multiple season and been injured each year.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
yeah, people get in too big a hurry
so and so isn’t rackin up 1000 yards a season and 20tds, trade them!!!!! Here’s a hint, if they have trade value, maybe they aren’t that terrible.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
I'm giving Crabtree one more year to break out... two tops.
We do tend to give players here too much time to prove themselves around here (i.e. Alex Smith). I get your point though too. Not every rookie is going to break out right away (i.e. Steve Young, Jerry Rice).
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
This just in...
Odds and ends from Yahoo Sports.
Most YAC per reception.
1st DeSean Jackson (7.3 YAC/Rec)
2nd Josh Morgan ( 7.2)
He's very hard to tackle
Very strong guy and can just plant himself in the ground and shed tacklers. We need to use his skill set more, and the WCO would be perfect
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
haha
I just came here to post the same article.
Goat’s right, for all of the talent we have on the team, Josh is one of the most physically gifted of them all. i wonder if opposing secondaries hate playing against him, on account of how physical he can be in the running game as well as when catching the ball.
Arkansas Homer Moment of the Post
So, Matt Jones anyone? He’s cheap. He’s fast. He’s a mismatch every time he’s on the field. AND he’s a better QB than the Smiths (no, not serious). I know we don’t need him, but I hope someone gives him a break. He’s been clean for 2 years now, and players get second chances all the time.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Oddly I'm kinda ok on that
Although our roster is a bit full. It could be interesting.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 29, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
He shot himself in the leg
was put in jail for carrying a gun in public.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 29, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
not a big deal
it was pretty stupid of him, but there are def worse dudes that are playing today. I think we could get him for cheap and no draft picks
The niners are missing one WR
I see him as Anquan Boldin or Hines Ward. Tough guy who can catch the ball across the middle and even bully some defenders. Especially in Boldin, across from a big play type player (fitz) he can do real damage. I vote we trade down and get julio jones orpray AJ green falls to us. WIth green, crabs, VD, delanie and the rest we’d have all the weapons to attract big name freeagents. Add in Harbaugh and solid QB and we’re looking like possibly the best offense in the NFC
WR 2ND ROUND
I like leonar hankerson out of tha U hes 6’2 205 some think as him being tha next andre johnson also from tha U .. from what i read on tha kid good hands an speed ..
by MRSUGA on Feb 5, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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