It Looks Like Jim Harbaugh Is Going To Miami
by James Brady on Jan 6, 2011 10:30 AM PST
in 49ers Head Coach/GM Search 2011
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PrintI don't know the sections of Miami, so I don't know whether South Beach is just a section or if that's another name for the city, but I'm willing to bet it's a section and also willing to bet that Sun Life Stadium is not in it. So I didn't go with a "taking his talents to South Beach pun," though I'm sure it's already been used at this point.
According to mostly Tim Kawakami tweets, Jim Harbaugh is just about ready to accept a deal with the Miami Dolphins, and that the 49ers cannot compete financially in these sweepstakes. If it's for some unGodly amount of money, then I understand and I do not fault the Yorks, but if it's still pretty negative in light of their public comments regarding the situation.
It appears as though Jim just wants the money - which is totally OK, but it's a bit insulting that he'd allegedly give the thumbs up to Trent Baalke and then, once faced with all the dollar signs in front of him, claim that there is something wrong with the front office structure. There may be problems in said structure, but it's definitely not the reason Harbaugh is not the guy. It's all money.
Now - what next? The 49ers had a backup plan, the oft-troubled Josh McDaniels, which screams of last minute desperation. Fortunately, Josh McDaniels is also put-off by the 49ers front-office structure and I suppose his concern is legitimate. I would probably off myself if it was McDaniels.
So now we're sitting with a GM that we hired specifically because Jim Harbaugh was OK with him and he was cheap, and none of the hot head-coaching prospects are available or want anything to do with the 49ers. After McDaniels, the 49ers will probably turn to Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, which just hurts when you've been led on like this.
Other candidates include Brian Billick and John Fox. I do not personally see Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher as legitimate options for the 49ers. I suppose there's those two folks with the M at the beginning of their names, but I personally know nothing about them at all. Mularkey and Mornhinweg.
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Money is no object!
LOL
Just accept we are now the Arizona Cardinals
I'm sorry, but "Money is no object" is irrelevant at this point.
Nobody can fault them for this.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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I'm sorry
If Harbaugh is the guy, then you should outbid everybody else. That’s the definition of money being no object
$8mil for a hc makes him the highest paid coach
if he doesn’t turn out we are on the hook for 40 mil.
Kellen Moore is awesome
I don't disagree with any of these points
BUT
Jed said money is no object. Stop with the bluster if you consistently don’t back up your talk.
See “This is the last time the 49ers season ends in December”
See “We are still going to win the NFC West even though we’re 0-5”
You're better than that Calbear
Don’t play the if this then that game.. Lots of teams in the NFL can do that
But it’s not like the Niners were completely out of it…we’re not talking about what the Niner but whether York’s statement was reasonable…it’s not that unreasonable.
We were 6-10, we didn’t deserve to be anywhere near the playoffs.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Feisty one aren’t we? See, talk is cheap.
by mcwagner on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
money
Nobody expected this kind of escalation.
by David Fucillo on Jan 6, 2011 10:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's Not the Point
Money IS no object. Because the $40M we’d have spent on Harbaugh (tax deductible as an expense against profits, by the way) would have filled seats in the new stadium and given the Niners hope for the future.
NOW we look like inexpereinced cheap blowhards who don’t know how to compete with the big boys.
We used to be “the big boy” when Eddie D was running things. Now we just have a young kid who has no clue how to negotiate or run an NFL team and who exaggerates and blusters and lies to the fans.
What a fiasco. What a dope he is, really. I’m not saying he’s a bad person. Just WAY out of his league. This is the NFL. Not BYU or LSU. You HAVE to pay up when it’s the right time to do so.
And if he hires McDaniels, I will not be watching that.
Only realistic good option left is taking a chance on another QB guru, and that’s got to be Morningwehg. But his name hasn’t even come up in the conversation at the York’s apparently.
Hah.
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Inexperienced cheap blowhards who don't know how to compete with the big boys.
Apart from the “cheap” part, how do you know that doesn’t describe Harbaugh?
by Ronaldinho on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Are they even allowed to interview Morningwheg right now, as his team is in the playoffs without a bye week?
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Really? From Kawakami's piece
If it’s Baalke and not Harbaugh… there will be reason for discontent, and one question should be asked: Shouldn’t York have known from the outset that Harbaugh could get north of $6M per?
Pete Carroll, Harbaugh’s great rival, got more than $6M last year with Seattle and many presumed that Harbaugh would inevitably get a deal greater than that.
Seems pretty reasonable that the money would have escalated
By most measures, Pete Caroll has a much better track record than Harbaugh.
Multiple national champsionships in college (compared to zero). Prior NFL head coaching experience.
Yeah, USC was never a Big Time Football program until Carroll arrived.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Well, they were pretty mediocre in the seasons before he showed up.
The three seasons before he showed up they went 5-7, 6-6, and 8-5.
That being said, personally, I like Harbaugh as a h.c. candidate more than I like Carroll, because I don’t trust guys from factory schools.
Ya, 3 seasons is an Historic record
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I'm not sure what you point is -
He had some advantages that most coaches don’t.
But the notion that he inheritted a power team is false. They were very middle of the road for most of the 90s.
How many big time Bowl games..
has USC been to than Stanford had? USC doesn’t have the Academic standards Stanford has. Carroll was a recruiting madman there because USC is a more attractive school for football. It has always been with a deep alumni. You can’t throw that out.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
The academic standards thing at Stanford is a smaller issue than most people think it is.
For two reasons:
First of all – and I know this because I had a friend who worked in the athletic department in a pac-10 school – all athletes test scores and h.s. grades are known to everyone. The reality is that Stanford’s starters don’t have much better academic records than anybody else’s starters. What they do have is much, much smarter benchwarmers.
Second, it can actually be a recruiting advantage. The (admittedly small) number of top athletes who also want a strong academic experience? Stanford gets them without a fight in football. (In Basketball, Duke has a similar advantage).
Stanford is also a private school with significantly different academic requirements
compared to the UC system.
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Stanford isn't in So-Cal..
and is not as glamorous as USC. That alone trumps academic standards for recruits, who aren’t after the education, rather, a shot at the NFL.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Erm, isn't USC's stadium backed up to the friggin Ghetto?
not that Palo Alto is much better, but…
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The entire USC campus is in a really crappy neighborhood.
Students joke that it’s in South Central, which it isn’t, but it’s not in a neighborhood that most of the students would spend any time in if not for the school.
The Los Angeles Colosseum?
so ghetto to not host the Olympics?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
in... 1984?
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Ya, that area in 1984 rivaled Palo Alto west.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
It's not as glamorous.
But I’ve been on both campuses and I know which one I’d rather spend four years at.
A reasonable number of div 1 football recruits understand that they’re really not going to make the NFL, barring a fluke.
But I don’t disagree with you that USC has recruiting advantages. In particular, their tendency to pay players.
You're not the average recruit...
who would you guess smarter? Luck? Or Lienhart?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
not really a great comparison
considering we KNOW Leinart is a bit of a dumbass.
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That's not the point
Harbaugh is a much more desired NFL head coaching candidate today than Carroll was last year. Perception on Carroll was that he couldn’t be an effective NFL coach, based on his time with NYJ and NE.
Harbaugh is seen as someone who will succeed at the next level, with no doubts. It’s sort of like comparing Cam Newton with Andrew Luck. Yeah, Newton’s got the better track record and the Heisman, but Luck is seen as more likely to make it to the next level.
I cannot believe the 49ers would lowball Harbaugh with an offer less than Carroll got. That’s just stupid. But according to all the media reports, that’s exactly what the 49ers did (even the “high” reports had their offer at 5.5m a year).
Horrible.
It’s still value…Andrew Luck may be the next great QB but if it means having to trade VD, Crabs or PW to get him…it’s not worth it…
False,
I would trade Crabtree in a second for Andrew Luck. Good receivers come and go….a good QB is something special.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
thats a no-brainer
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
With all due respect
I’m glad you’re not in charge. That’s not how you run a business.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
What does this say about Harbaugh?
I wasn’t originally on the Harbaugh bandwagon until reading the post this week with his connections to and being a student of Walsh. So I bought in, despite questions about his personality and NFL experience. $6M to get him and satisfy his ego to match what PC got…ok, can live with that. But if he’s going to simply cave to the highest bidder, then not only does he play with opponents minds on the field, he just did a jedi mind trick on the entire Niner Nation. Him coming to the Niners made sense on all levels and as long as the money is in the ball park, then I think you make the best football career decision and not just a “I wanna get paid” decision. So if I add that to the concerns that I had before, I frankly don’t want him here if that’s his mindset. The Niners are much closer to challenging for the playoffs and a ring than Miami. They’re FO is as jacked up as ours was, and he’s going to have to pack the family up and move cross country. And now that Luck’s off the table, everyone can calm down about getting both Harbaugh and Luck.
So let’s not pay someone an extra $2-3M just to stroke their ego. I want a coach here who appreciates the Niner legacy and wants to be a part of it. We can save that money to invest in other ways to build the team. Mornhinweg has legacy here, was OC under Mooch from ‘97 to ’00. He’s been OC in Philly since ‘06. So he was here with Young, Rice, T.O. and B.Y. And he’s been pretty good getting the Eagles offense going, whether with McNabb, Kolb, or now Vick. I think that’s better than betting the farm on Harbaugh.
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Morningweg I think is my #1 guy at this point
It’s a sad day.
by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I like Billick and Morningweig
I’m also pretty sure Billick wants to coach here based on the way he talked about the team when he was anouncing some of their games.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
A combination of both would be great
but highly unlikely since Marty can be a HC elsewhere.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Those are my two favorites at this point as well.
But I would really like to see a different DC brought in as well.
I doubt Morhinweg can be an OC here
b/c he’s an OC in PHI….
Lateral moves to other teams are generally not allowed, unless both sides agree to it, I think. (ex: Our old OL line coach went to Washington?? to be OL C there, because Singletary allowed it.)
No I meant Morningweg as HC
and a different DC.
If McDaniels doesn't want to be our HC, not sure he'd want to be our OC
But I’d love it if that came true
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Sparano is looking pretty good at this point
what does that say about our options?
It is truly sad that our franchise has become a laughing stock.
People avoiding us, no one wanting our “messed up FO structure.” I freakin’ hate this.
Um, not according to some of the articles
They say he is put off by our front-office structure.
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IT has been mentioned multiple times that he OK’ed Baalke or Lombardi?? Those articles say someone told him to stay away, yea okay…someone with motives obviously.
Who knows?
All we have is second- and third- hand info from loaded sources.
Don’t post-mortem why Harbaugh didn’t sign with us until he signs with somebody else.
It came from all the beat writers. I trust most of what they say about our team in particular, they usually have pretty good contacts in the organization…
Yeah, but sometimes those guys can be an echo chamber.
One of them reports something, and they all repeat it.
Even if they all got it from the same “reliable source” all we know is that said source BELIEVES that Harbaugh was okay with Baalke or Lombardi. We don’t know if that was true. Maybe Harbaugh played the Niners because he suspected he could get another team to swoop in with a monster offer.
We have no way of knowing.
But, again, until it’s official, I’m refusing to post-mortem anything.
Fair
The 4.5 or 5 mil we offered him has just been retweeted by everyone. All the local people say the offer was more…We are also offereing a lot more control. And if Miami wouldn’t give Cowher control what are they gonna give Harbaugh? Then again they weren’t gonna pay even Gruden 8 mil, I think Steve Ross is just insane.
or someone who knows
that a first time GM with an inexperienced owner is not exactly a recipe for guaranteed success :P
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But their FO
is chasing HCs while they still have one. The owner seems to be rather untrustworthy if you ask me.
by Joshuahss on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
to select a tackle
who has since started every single game and is a pro-bowler.
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QB>than anything else.
Look who the Falcons have starting at LT.
by bruddah on Jan 6, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
to a degree.
but the usual rule is if there is a franchise QB to be had, you take him. which is why rams took bradford even though people believed Suh was the better prospect.
and because the Rams had nobody at QB
the Fins have been hoping that Henne (and Pennington before him) would be the franchise guy.
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Henne was drafted after
so they didn’t really have a QB either.
The funny thing is that the front office structure is evidently what scared Cowher ...
… away from the MIAMI job.
I read that he didn't want to work for their GM.
And there is a reason Gruden turned them down as well, I’m sure.
Stop it with facts
Better to blame York for everything.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Ah yes, Miami has such great FO structure
And has had so much playoff success the past decade.. How many on NN were even alive the last time Miami won a SB?
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Ya, they got Parcells...
MIA has nothing on SF as far as FO for the past decade either.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Parcells isn't there anymore.
And Cowher will not go there because of the GM. Combine that with them leaving their coach dangling like this and I’d say its pretty jacked up.
They had Parcells..
and keep it real, the 49er FO has been a disaster since Policy, Clark, and Cerratto. Nothing like MIA this past decade.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Yes the Niners FO has been a wreck
but currently I don’t think the disparity is that big. I think the Phins are heading for a steep downturn.
It is..
how succesful has this FO been the past 6 seasons? Not very. In fact, it’s a flat out disaster.
Adding Parcells adds a little more credibility than keeping Marathe around, doesn’t it?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I have to disagree
Our FO has had it’s issues but it has been improving. Results on the field will certainly lag. Nolan was a big mistake by John. Jed was given control and Nolan was canned. Jed took a chance on Singletary, but it is only a stupid move in hindsight. At the time it seemed a little risky but also seemed like it could yield a big payoff.
Jed has not been rash in any decisions since then. They FO has continued to acquire good talent and build the team. Some items that are lacking are based on coaching decisions – and that is because the FO is keeping out of the way and letting the coach do the coaching. Some might blame Baalke for the lack of a QB, but if Sing insisted AS would be fine if they just acquire O-Line help then I cannot blame Baalke for the last draft.
McClueless leaving looked bad but I wasn’t really sold on him being a great GM anyway.
I would say our FO is fine. All we lack is a solid coaching staff and a few skill positions.
by ColoradoNiner on Jan 6, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
You're basing this off one season...
where the team went 6-10? I can’t see how anybody thinks Baalke a good candidate when he wasn’t even in his office handling NFL issues. Gamble was the day to day guy, not Baalke.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
He's not there now
Which is the only thing that impacts Harbaugh. If it was about the past, the Niners would be the easy choice. I don’t think Harbaugh’s decision has anything to do with FO structure.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
How has much changed in the 49er FO?...
Well?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
As much as has changed in Miami the past few months
Again, we’re talking about what it is now and going forward, not what was. The past does not impact Harbaugh.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Again, what has changed?...
asking you a direct question.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
We were comparing SF to Miami
If you change the topic of the thread, SF has changed the title of Baalke so that he is now the GM.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
So what has changed other than a title?...
Marathe is still above Baalke, right?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
That I do not know. I see Marathe as an independent entity but have no idea.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Marathe has been there since John York took over..
in the upper echelon of the hierarchy, during the time they didn’t have a GM. He was above Nolan.
So what has changed?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
ugh
ugh, this is such an emotional roller coaster.
If Harbaugh is really going to Miami, we should counter offer just to drive the price up, make Miami pay upwards of 10mill/yr
Sun Life Stadium is a good 20-30 miles north of Downtown Miami
You’ll have to get around well to watch professional sports in South Florida.
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Interesting tidbit about Miami:
From their beat writer:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/06/2002712/dolphins-need-to-fish-or-cut-bait.html#storylink=omni_popular
Evidently, Cowher turned them down because they wouldn’t let him organize the front office the way he wanted it, and Gruden is too expensive for them.
Huh?
They’re willing to back a dump truck full of money up to Harbaugh, but Gruden is too expensive? How does that make sense?
That's also what I heard
They offered him $7 million and he said “no”.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Gruden
Is waiting til next year. I had read about the part with Cowher yesterday as well, he doesn’t like Ireland and wanted control..
Kawakami is just a bad journalist.
He’s literally just making the most obvious assumptions so that he can say he and his “source” broke the story.
Yesterday, Harbaugh was with the 49ers for at least five hours. He’s GOT to be signing there.
Today, he gives the Dolphins a chance, which means that the Dolphins HAVE to be the primary choice now.
by sfgfan on Jan 6, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sad that he isn't even the most cynical journalist in the Bay Area
He’s got stiff competition.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Seriously.
I honestly think that opinion writers should stay opinion writers and not report stuff, just like reporters should keep their opinions out of what they write.
There’s just too much blending of the two in today’s media that you don’t know who’s trying to relay fact, or who’s trying to give an opinion.
Just think if this was the East Coast.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I think Jed should raise the price on Jim
then make Miami pay more. MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
Kellen Moore is awesome
In other news
McDaniels says he is not interested in the 49ers. How’s that for a twist of the knife?
No kidding
There’s two explanations for what happened in Denver and why it would be terrible for him to come to SF:
1. that McDaniels is simply too young to be a head coach, he doesn’t get it. Obviously this would not make him a good coach anywhere and so ‘tis a good thing that he doesn’t want to come to SF.
2. that he’s an agent of Darth Hoodie sent out to destroy other franchises by gutting their rosters. Given that SF has a lot of talent, even if you put just a teenie bit of stock in this theory, you’d want McD as far from the team as possible
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin
Who would want to come here?
The Yorks are so annoying that I don’t know of any good coach who would honestly want to come here unless the 49ers threw an obscene amount of money at them. The Yorks are unwilling to spend that kind of money, and so we are left with only second choice candidates, which just makes us look like the second class organization we have become under this regime.
Really…5 million dollars for an unproven headcoach is unreasonable? Overpaying does not equate quality…conversely it equate stupidity…
I’m really really glad the Niners are not falling into the trap…I would scream infinitely more if they did offer $8 million to Harbaugh…
Why?
This argument makes no sense. Nobody will remember the overpay if it works…
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Carroll's team is in the playoffs...
Worked out OK so far, I’d say
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Low bar for success.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Sure.
But nobody’s calling our season a success.
The Seahawks are in the playoffs because of an unbelievably easy schedule. Yes, credit to them for making it. They did better than we did.
But I wouldn’t call it a successful season.
Yeah, I realize that they have no chance.
Everyone loves an underdog, though, so I’ll enjoy watching Clipboard Jesus try to lead them to the promised land…
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I used to like you Sangy until your sinful ways
13th commandment:
He who cheers for Carroll shall suffer the fate of JaMarcus and grow sevenfold.
Pete Carroll = Brent Favre
by mcwagner on Jan 6, 2011 12:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
And everyone will crucify inexperienceed Jed if it doesn't
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Really selling Harbaugh low here..
did the FO send you out as the message board PR moll? Just checking your softball pitches.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I have a feeling that every decision the FO makes will be wrong in your eyes.
I don’t think they have made a huge mistake and we don’t know how this will turn out.
Just providing balance in a forum of reaction to assumptions
I say this as someone who wants Harbaugh here. But if Jed pays him $7M+ and it doesn’t work, many of those “pay whatever it takes” will crucify teh young Jed for getting played and forget all about their slobbering for him. This is still business; you don’t get on your knees for someone.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Jed was the person who raised the expectations..
this one isn’t on the fans. It’s on Jed.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I get what you're saying
Even with raised expectations, I don’t want Jed to act rashly or irresponsibly. What will win Jed fan love is stability and victories. Only time can answer those no matter who is hired.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Jed acting rashly?..
Like hiring a HC he just fired?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Which HC was that?
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
The one you made over 10000 excuses for.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I doubt he thought
Anyone would pay that much for an unproven NFl coach
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Not this pisses me off.
Had the 49ers changed their structure and been willing to hire an outside GM, and meet the financial threshold Harbaugh is commanding on the market, they could have potentially had a dream team staff, according to sources.
Your sources, Mr. LaConfora, are wrong. They could not be more wrong. Jim Harbaugh was totally fine with San Francisco’s general manager until the issue of dollars came up, then suddenly he didn’t want to appear like he was so greedy. It is already confirmed that Harbaugh OK’d the GM and front office. The money, sure, that makes sense. But he’s too expensive.
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by James Brady on Jan 6, 2011 10:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Plus, I like how he needs sources to confirm that people like money.
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LaConfora could learn a thing or two from Singletary...
Because I think he needs to look at the film.
(I agree. In fact, many media members seem to be throwing out more opinions than actual facts, and it is getting frustrating to weed through. What will it say if Harbaugh signs with the 49ers?)
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Harbaugh hasn't spoken at all
How does anyone know that he was ok with anything?
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
It was already confirmed by more than one reliable source.
This isn’t just Kawakami tweeting random things and hoping one of them sticks, the 49ers waited until Harbaugh confirmed that he was OK with Baalke before they hired him, otherwise they would have went another direction.
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If you can't see why they shouldn't be faulted for the money thing, I don't know what's happened to you, Drummer.
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Ninjames's point still stands though
yes, Jed made a brash statement, but if you can’t see how the current FO’s supposed strategy makes sense, then this argument will go nowhere.
Again, I'm not the one who said it...
Nor did I say that I will have a GM search when I had my GM in my back pocket the whole time.
If it made sense, than this whole nonsense wouldn’t be happening, no?
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My message to Jed:
Practice what you preach.
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harbaughs agents must be leaking that so he doesnt look greedy
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Until I hear an announcement, I won't believe anything.
I would like to think that Jed would raise the price a bit with a counter offer even if it isn’t all the way to 7-8 million. Wouldn’t you want to see if Harbaugh would be willing to join the 49ers for a mill or two less than what Miami is offering?
It's official
We’re the Golden State Niners.
by BlueInTheFace on Jan 6, 2011 10:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
You mean UNTIL they move to LA
Which will probably be in the next few years. The Yorks are doing a pretty good job of alienating the entire NorCal fan base, so in typical York fashion they will probably pick up their marbles and run to LA when they don’t get the stadium they want.
um, don't hate on the Warriors
at least they have new owners and are improving
Don’t make me cry.
I might have to consider becoming a bandwagon fan (because I’ll never be a Raiders fan, lol). WOO GO PATRIOTS!
…Eh, that doesn’t feel right. Where are my 49ers when I need them?
(They’re looking at the film)
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This is Jimmy Raye all over again
Nobody wants to come to SF because our organization is crap.
No more mock draft sig for now...
Actually, Hue Jackson was willing to come here
Sing made the wrong hire. That’s on the person making the decision, not that nobody wants to come here.
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I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
I wonder..
What would have happened if Tomsula was headcoach and Jackson was OC. We may have actually been semi-decent.
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If Harbaugh falls through...
…we need to slow down and take some time. The rush to interview McDaniels was pathetic and reeked of desperation.
I was thinking the same thing, LOL
At this point we aren’t really going to get anybody named Cowher, Harbaugh, Gruden or basically anyone who has a real track record. We’re left with first time head coaches desperate for a chance, or retreads who have failed miserably elsewhere. Which means most likely we will get Hue Jackson, although the 49ers will get outbid by the Raiders, and presto, we have Tomsula!
Nevermind Harbaugh...Screw him... Let him go sleep with the fishes...Or mammal?
by IRONxMIKE on Jan 6, 2011 10:39 AM PST reply actions 16 recs
1. It’s in the water. There’s significant shrinkage
2. He’s probably a grower
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Here's what pisses me off the most
If money wasn’t an issue, why did they try to low ball him to begin with? The final contract he almost signed was 5 years for $5 million a year. That means the 49ers must have started around $4 million a year since it was known Harbaugh wanted $6.5 million just like Carroll. I bet if the 49ers had just come in and said they’d give him $6.5 a year or even $6 million a year he would have signed before Miami had a chance to get involved.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
thats not lowballing.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
They didn’t low ball him! $5 million is completely fair!
Spagalo got 4 years $11.5 million to go to the Rams!
no I was backing up your statement
giving up a guy 7mil for nothing is crazy considering that the best coach in the nfl just a 7 mil deal.
Kellen Moore is awesome
And Pete Carroll is being paid 6.5M
Really, people should stop comparing salaries. It’s not relevant.
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying it isn't fair
But everyone knew he wanted a deal similar to Carroll’s 6.5 million. If you’re going to say money isn’t an issue, and he’s the guy they really want, give him the deal. Otherwise, money is an issue and Jed never should have said it.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
yeah he should have
but that doesn’t mean he should drastically overpay to justify his comments.
But that's what pisses me off
It’s not my money so I could care less if he over pays for a HC. But when he said it, I got the impression they would pay whatever it took to get the guy they wanted. Or at the very least, they would be willing to pay him the 6.5 million he wanted. It just gave me false hopes and it’s a huge letdown to go from Harbaugh to whoever they end up with.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
"Jed should have kept his mouth shut"
This seems a recurring theme…
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The key to haggling is understanding leverage
York obviously was the only person in America that didn’t understand that Harbaugh had all of the leverage here and he had none of it. I agree that he had to do everything in his power to guarantee that Harbaugh didn’t leave that room without ink on the contract. He failed. He’s an amateur. Everyone knows it now.
by BlueInTheFace on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
What?
Is this how contract negotiations work? I mean lock the guy in the room until he signs? What if Harbaugh wanted $10 million?
Or he wanted to discuss it with his family.
The key to haggling is making an informed decision, so taking time to weigh your options is a good idea.
also.......
you do not need to be setting ridiculous precedents by giving an unproven NFL coach inflated offers.
Like 6.5 million to Pete Carroll
Yes, I know Carroll coached before in the NFL, but it didn’t last long and he was fired. Carroll got paid what he did simply for what he did at USC and for no other reason.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Then he’s not an unproven coach…Carroll did okay in NE and don’t forget he was a very good assistant for the Niners and also HC for the Jets
I still see them as similar situations
Carroll didn’t get paid 6.5 because he had been and OK HC in the past. He got that money because of what he did at USC. And Harbaugh was worked in the NFL as well as a QB coach.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
yes…Carroll coached in the NFL for 15 years and created a dynasty at USC…
Harbaugh worked as the QB coach for the 2003 Raider (you should check the stats) and took Stanford to one great year with the best QB in college football…
Sorry…not the same…
Not to mention Seattle was not smart to give Carroll that deal…every deal Carroll has made in Seattle had backfired.
Why do I need to check the stats?
I knew he was the QB coach in Oakland, but I’m not sure why that’s relevant. I know they’re not exactly the same, no two situations are, but do you really think Carroll’s time as an assistant coach and mediocre HC played that big of a role in the amount of money he got?
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
And how have his QB's at Stanford turned out?
One’s in the NFL and another one will be the #1 pick in the draft if he declairs. And he didn’t just lead Stanford to one good year. He took over a 1-11 team and 4 years later they finished with their best season in school history. They were one half of football away from playing for a national championship. Not to mention, Stanford isn’t a football factory like USC. They have serious limitations on who they can recruit because of their accademic standards.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
First of all Luck was a highly tout recruit coming out of HS (no. 4 in the nation)
Second…a lot of coaches have done in college….Jeff Tedford took a 1-10 Cal team and came with in one play of going to the national championship game…one of the major reasons…Aaron Rodgers was the QB in 2002…Tedford is still at Cal (and I love him to death) but Cal’s record has been inconsistent because the QBs have been inconsistent…
Tedford has a much better reputation of up-coaching QBs than Harbaugh
But not every top recruit pans out.
I believe Harbaugh has shown he can develope QBs. So has Tedford. Although, before Rodgers, he had the knock against him that his QBs couldn’t make it at the next level. And I’m not sure why Tedford’s name doesn’t get mentioned. Maybe he’s made it clear he’s happy where he is. My only point was, if the 49ers truly believe Harbaugh’s the man to turn the franchise around, you do what it takes to get him.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
True...
but it’s not like Luck was unknown before Harbaugh…
Tedford’s knack was the ability to take average QBs and up coach them…the fact that they became top notch college QB is a reflection of his skill.
I’m not saying Harbaugh is going to be bad but he has not done much to justify all this love
I suspect that if Tedford puts together a 10-1 season, he'll get a similar level of hype.
Although he’s considered a bit more of a known commodity. Part of the reason why Harbaugh is getting all this hype is because he’s unknown. This allows people to believe he’s the next Bill Walsh.
If Tedford was the next Bill Walsh, the thinking goes, we’d know it already.
My point is that Harbaugh greatly benefited from having Luck as the QB…to assume that he will be the next Bill Walsh is largely speculation
You realize that Harbaugh brought Luck in, right?
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Yes…but it’s not like Luck was an unknown and Harbaugh found him…
Luck was a Rivals 100, no. 4 QB in the Nation, an Army all american coming out of HS
That's part of being a good coach.
You know who Bill Walsh greatly benefited from? Joe Montana.
Good coaches get good players, or make them better, or utilize them properly, etc.
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Handshake deal
Obviously, Harbaugh was cool with the offer.
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I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Then, until the leverage came into play...
that’s why you have a handsake deal
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I was addressing the issue of “low balling.” If it was low balled, Harbaugh would not have handshook the deal.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Was there a signature on the bottom line? ...
Do we remember a Kurt Warner courtship?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Again, addressing the criticism of it being a low ball offer
It wasn’t. If someone high balls it, tip your cap to them. Not sure how this relates to the KW courtship.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Because a team drives up the price? ...
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Niners drove up that price. That was good.
If Harbaugh was only using Jed to drive up a price in Miami, that means he was never coming here. So that can’t be Jed’s fault can it?
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Jed said money was no object...
well?
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"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
There’s no object then there is being irresponsible. I’d prefer Jed not cross that line.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
So again...
who raised that expectation with that one sentence?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
That sentence did not raise my expectations. I never thought they would be cheap or low ball a candidate. It appears they have not, so my expectations of Jed are met.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Again...
he said that to raise expectations from the fans, whose faith was at a low point. He put it out there, not the fans. Was that a rash statement?
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"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I don’t think it was rash. He didn’t need to raise my faith with words; creating long-term structure and winning games will do that, but only time can show it. I say that as a fan who is as cynical about the Niners and NFL as I’ve ever been.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
But what was the motivation behind Jed saying that?...
was it linked to the past reputation of the Yorks, however founded or unfounded?
Was it arrogant?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Is Kawakami borderline retarded?
“Pro Football Talk has a good suggestion: 49ers should investigate what it’d take to get Tennessee to relinquish rights to Jeff Fisher.”
Why would tenessee drop their QB and their coach in the same off season
Kawakami has lost all credibility
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
He never HAD any credibility to begin with
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
And any
He had left, he lost yesterday when he said, meeting over…oh wait no they are meeting, I still don’t even know where that is.
yeah, we might as well contact New England
to see what it’d take to relinquish the rights to Bill Belichick
Bad thing is, I no longer want Fisher either.
141-116.
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I don't get it.
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He doesn't inspire confidence either
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Anybody noticed that Baalke has yet to be introduced and has yet to speak publicly?
Any chance they start the GM search over again if Harbaugh indeed goes to Miami?
I’ll admit it’s not likely but at this point I’m not sure what is.
they want a joint press conference
Kind of like introducing a new tag team in wrestling. Harbaugh and Baalke would be "the rockers’ btw
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I get that
but if no Harbaugh…would they start over? They have to know that the Baalke announcement didn’t exactly light the world on fire.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Baalke would definitely be Marty Jannety
And Harbaugh would definitely be Shawn Michaels
that would be awesome.
Funny mental image lol
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
the time is now 10:40 am.
Any new updates?
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:41 AM PST reply actions
All reports say by noon, but who knows..Schefter said he was gonna meet with us again/is already? I dunno.
thanks
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Miami Came in
Harbaugh is just doing himself diligence. I don’t think he called Miami…The are railroading us…….F… Them.
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sure.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
yeah sure why not
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
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I would really like him
I used to be like “eww old guy” but then I thought about it, and it makes sense.
Jim Hard baughll
it is what it is. So much for a handshake. Welcome Billick, Drummer gets a point for calling it out
I will hate them as much as Seattle
Less than Green Bay, and I will always hate Dallas more than anyone.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
I havent gone to work in 4 days!!!
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Luckily I can run my business from home.
Not that ive been doing that.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
worst sports city in america
and thats where Harbaugh wants to play? Sad. Him and Lebron can go on “business luncheons” together.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
If anybody has a positive way at looking
todays events, I’m all ears. Trying to stay positive but even the sarcasm deffense mechanism is failing. Sad day for the Niners organization. Even McDaniels shuns from us! McDaniels!!!!!? McDANIELS!!!!! ?
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 10:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Actually…I’m fine with it…I won’t mind Harbaugh coming to the Niners but not distraught he didn’t especially not at 8-10 million…
I think there’s a good chance that who ever the Niners get will do better than Harbaugh will in Miami…
Especially since Phins play in AFC East
Good luck playing Jets and Patriots 4x every year….
We’ll take the Rams, Seahawks and Cards 6x thank you very much.
agreed
Every reporter has been both wrong and right in this whole escapade.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I won't be surprised if Harbs waits till weekend before making a decision on Sunday
He’ll talk with his family about the final offers. They will discuss issues with potential move, etc. etc. Need patience.
wtf is patience?
jk.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I think Jackson would be a good choice.
He certainly did well with Flacco.
Blessed are they who are pleasant to blog with....
Can we fire Baalke and start the GM over
if Harbaugh thing fell thru.
yes please lets do this
this has all been a comedy of errors let’s do it right like everyone else
by haroldansivakumar on Jan 6, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
What's funny is that if Harbaugh ends up signing with us after all
all the people saying they hate him and calling him Whorebaugh will be jumping with joy and super excited that we have a new awesome Head Coach.
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well that would mean he took less money
which is admirable.
yes i called him whorebaugh
But thats what jilted lovers do. Im angry, hurt, and confused. What do you expect?
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
lets eat cheesecake
Call the girlfriends up, we got some getting over to do.
by mcwagner on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
How is the Niners FO worse than Miami's??
The owner obviously has no class. He has Sparano looking mad stupid, not even fired yet.
Harbaugh wasn’t even their first OR second choice. If he takes that job I guess he is obviously in it for the money and doesn’t care about winning. Good luck EVER making the playoffs in that division.
Challenge
Harbaugh is the ultimate competitor and competing against Belicheat twice a year is the ulitmate challenge
Rooney rule?
Even if Harbaugh wants to go to Miami, they need to fire Soprano first but don’t they need to fulfill the Rooney rule first and then hire Harbaugh? Just looking for some clarification.
Screw 2010, hoping to get LUCKy in 2011.
by Rawr :) on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
They probably interviewed that singing homeless guy.
Overplayed memes:
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by say hey nation on Jan 6, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Man this effin bull****
i sold my soul to the devil thats a crappy deal
least it came with a few toys like a happy meal
by swagger on Jan 6, 2011 10:46 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Florida has no income tax
just sayin’
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 6, 2011 10:47 AM PST reply actions
I used to live in FL...
It’s not all people seem to think. They tax you for everything, even a pack of gum. And different cities or county’s have different sales tax%. He’s rich as hell either way. If I’m happy where I’m at and make 5mil a year, I wouldnt leave to make 7mil a year
and Harbaugh would laugh all the way to the bank
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
for the dolphins.
i hate them. Harbaugh’s acting rationally.
Im laughin straight to the bank with this
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Supposedly Baalke's Plan B
Supposedly if Harbaugh doesn’t work out, Baalke wants an up and coming assistant coach, either Schottenheimer or Shurmur.
One of those guys make sense. They won’t make Baalke feel inferior, like Gruden or Billick would, and they would be cheap.
I heard this on the NFL network last night..
I generally feel that's the right way to go.
Sometimes it doesn’t work out (eg, Nolan) but there are no guarantees with any coaching hire.
Marty Morhinweg?
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Have we heard anything that we trust
about this meeting that started at 10?
-Brett G.
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer
Is site decorum off? Or are we waiting till the "it's official, Harbaugh Dolphins HC" thread?
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
No panic
Harbaugh – if it’s solely about the money, then best of luck in Miami and in the AFCE. I’d rather not have a guy that’s never been a pro HC demanding Belichick money or bust. We need a guy that wants to make this franchise theirs and do so for the next decade or two. If he can be pulled a new direction this easily, it’ll be Mooch all over again with his Notre Dame rumors. No thanks. I don’t like that in players and won’t in a coach.
McDaniels – he should go the Shanahan route; join an established organization as an OC and assistant HC for the next 2-3 years, then again become a HC with a bit more matruity and some experiences to join what he learned in New England.
Not sure what the Niners will do but this is why you interview multiple canditates and have a list that should have been (and likely was) in the making for the past month or two.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
What was that in relation to?
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
A list of candidates..
when the guy at the top of the list crossed out everybody who subsequently interviewed?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
Time will tell with that decision
Who did you want?
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Someone who has more experience...
with a playoff team?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
A name
I ask only because I have no expertise on this. I figure if people don’t like Baalke they must know of someone better.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
There were plenty of name...
Floyd Reese, the guy who is under Ozzie Newsome, etc. Baalke? A Nolan regime holdover? Should we go back to several threads about this last week?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
I wanted to know who you wanted
Not candidates. I know who the candidates were. They could be just as good or bad as Baalke. I was asking nicely who you wanted.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
I would have took..
I forget his name, but I think it’s DeCosta, or Floyd Reese for a few years to groom a GM. Not just another lapdog in the current regime that panders to Jed, who s the guy who really wants to run the show.
Now, back to you. Who did you really want? The guy who is the Status Quo?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
No strong preferance
Reese intrigued me. Lombardi did not. I was more wanting Harbaugh and less worried about the GM.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
Then I watch Jed and Baalke's actions much more closely
And with a great deal more skepticism.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I vow to never mention "playoffs" and "49ers" together again until we have a "quarterback."
You mean..
Jed’s, Marathe’s, and Baalke’s actions, don’t you?
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
What do you care?..
You’re busy shaking your head over my Sig.
Baalke Billick 2011
Los Angeles welcomes Denise Frontiere and the Golden State 49ers
Where's Eddie??
I thought he was involved? The trigger finger broken?? Lets get the deal done.
RED AND GOLD ALWAYS BOLD>
Eddie's in Florida and orchestrating this whole Dolphins thing to discourage other suitors
from beggingg Harbs to listen to them and dragging this on.
What if it was Baalke all along...
Baalke: No No No Jed let me handle this… we can get him for less than Carrol, plus a hometown discount.
We want Sparano
Not to get back to the Dolphins but he’s a great coach, the trouble there was Dan Henning, stupid as hell.. Sparano in his first season managed to finish 11-5 after a 1-15 season.
by monterrey niner on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM PST reply actions
He's a great coach?!
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What has convinced you he's great?
Just asking.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Great Coach 1-7 At Home, Never
No great coach goes 1-7 at home, sorry. What has Sparano done to make you think he’s great????
Not going to argue his merits but,
Baalke = Parcells guy
Sparano = Parcells guy
I don’t really want it, but it seems pretty possible if they sign Harbs.
And the two seasons after that were 7-9
Not bad at all considering the division. That team would have won the NFC West this year, i bet.
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
Everyone should chill
I think every one should stop assuming until we know more, because all of this is just speculation at best. To attack Harbaugh for something he may do or may be thinking is ridiculous. Let the events unfold before assuming.
Tyreke Evans for MVP!
by sac-townz finest on Jan 6, 2011 10:53 AM PST reply actions
Yes
But it is about how the organization is run, especially the last 5 years…
The Redskins are a crappy organization
It took re-hiring Joe Gibbs to get them back in the playoffs. Every other move Dan Snyder has made has been a disaster.
I live in DC and have yet to meet a Redskins fan who thinks it’s a well-run club.
Agreed
I know all about it, way too much. Yet they always have an absurd amount of hype in the offseason. Although I will admit most of my friends who are knowledgeable were a little skeptical of McNabb preseason….
Not Quickly
Since the Yorks took over the team has gone from the fourth most valuable to the fourth least valuable. This has taken eight years of mismanagement and a terrible stadium.
Not only are the 49ers not an elite franchise anymore, they are one of the least valuable.
Eight years of the Yorks has done that to this once great franchise
Well, to be fair -
- some of that has to do with some bad football decisions and some of it has to do with not being able to get on the new-stadium gravy train.
But the Bay Area is an unusually hard place to get a stadium built. Almost anywhere else you can get public funding for it. Here you can’t. So it’s not entirely their fault.
I think the money is retarded
….and I don’t want the niners throwing that kind of cash at the guy, but DONT SAY MONEY ISNT AN OBJECT if you are willing to spend stupid money.
If this goes down within a couple years Miami and Harbaugh will be regretting their decision.
Would you rather: Go win the NFC west as soon as next year, with quite a bit of talent already in place? Without having to move?
or, go lose to New England and NY and finish in 3rd place every year?
I just hate that miami is throwing such dumb money around, this would not even be a choice if not for that.
I’m going to wait til things are official though, I’m hoping in the end Harbaugh is sane enough to turn down $2 mil extra for a WAYYY better situation.
I'm blaming Jed not matter what
He’s the one that said moneys not a problem and most important of all York is his last name
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 10:55 AM PST via mobile reply actions
The Real BS of it all
is that Miami hasn’t even fired their current coach or complied with the Rooney rule, things the niners did immediately and did the RIGHT WAY so that they could finalize something with Harbaugh.
Call me a whiner but if Miami is allowed to do this its total BS and a sham for the NFL…and Miami and Goodell should be embarrased and ashamed
Its just lame that one team can do everything the right way and end up being punished for it because some sleaze owner blatantly violates the rules
by ManBearPig21 on Jan 6, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, and that shows future candiates we are a legit organization.
Jeb has worked, in this instance at least, in good faith and tried to do what is best.
If we didn't at one time have a sleaze owner who blatantly violated the rules
Eddie would still be in charge.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I watched every single Miami game
He is GOOD believe me. He managed to turn around a f***d up team. I assure you Miami would’ve make it to the playoffs in the NFC. Just look at their schedule
by monterrey niner on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM PST reply actions
There road schedule was
Buffalo, Minn, GB and Cincy, Baltimore, plus their division. Makes a little more sense.
home record always more important
season ticket sales
by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
To be fair, Miami's home field advantage
is only about 1 notch above Jacksonville….that is, to say, it doesn’t exist.
Handshake Deal
They shake hands on a deal with Harbaugh, go interview an minority and then announce Harbaugh
and hopefully Harbaugh signs with someone else after his second handshake deal
give Miami a taste of their own medicine.
AND
That will be investigated heavily by the NFL..
Doesn't Miami need to interview a minority candidate first?
Or are they just going to ignore the Rooney rule and pay the fine?
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
The commish won't stand for that, methinks
If they are gonna deliberately bypass the rule and just pay the fine, Goodell will make it hurt.
No more mock draft sig for now...
MaioccoCSN Matt Maiocco
The private jet belonging to Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is still at San Jose airport . . . 11 hours after it landed.
hah. saw that.
i’m picturing maiocco just waiting at the airport staring at the plane.
at least hes a good journalist
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
haha i know. i love him
but its still a funny thought
Harbaugh and friends needed sleep
Understandable.
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
I think all the reports of Harbaugh not liking the Niners FO
are just rumors spread by his people in case he takes the extra money, so it can be used as an excuse to not appear greedy. He can say the GM was a good fit for him and try to cut down on the backlash.
MM
The private jet belonging to Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is still at San Jose airport . . . 11 hours after it landed.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST reply actions
SPARANO HAS BEEN FIRED
Sparano just dropped off at #Dolphins facility by Mrs. Sparano. Wearing coach shirt and shorts.
by monterrey niner on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST reply actions
This is just awful.
McDaniels – Terrible choice, ran a franchise into the ground, doesn’t even want to be here.
Hue Jackson – Not too bad, but the guy has had one impressive season as a coordinator.
Mornhinweg – Absolutely abysmal time in Detroit, with nothing but time passing to indicate he can do better in San Francisco.
Jeff Fisher – 141-116 as a head coach.
Jon Gruden – Doesn’t want to coach this year, already turned down $7M
John Fox – AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA LMFAO
Pat Shurmur – He’s the OC of the Rams … really?
Brian Billick – The only halfway decent candidate who would consider the job.
And the biggest kick in the junk of all, we hired Trent Baalke because we were told that Harbaugh would be OK with him.
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uh Marty Morhinweg
was with the lions…for two years. I dont think you can use that against him.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
sure you can
he made some idiot decisions while he was there. (electing to defer in OT after winning the coin toss comes to mind). But hey, maybe he’s learned from his mistakes.
Besides...
… everyone knows that Millen ran that ship into the ground. The troubles didn’t leave when Mornhinweg left.
Millen Plays Madden
And simulates every season just so he can draft some WR’s every year.
Yes I can.
I’m not looking at the wins/losses, I’m looking at everything he himself did.
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I know the reports are flying all over the place...
but why are we assuming this is a done deal? Has there been some serious, non-twitter corroboration?
by Call It The Throw on Jan 6, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Baalke & Billick
I think Billick would intimidate Baalke. I don’t think Baalke wants an established guy like Billick. He will feel much more comfortable with someone on equal grounds with him.
Regarding Shurmur at Rams
McCarthy coached for Nolan and did not exactly distinguish himself.
There are needed qualities in a young HC candidates that the GM has to look for that we fans can’t evaluate because of limited exposure.
Did Hue Jackson turn down Sing
Or did Sing just hire Jimmy Rae instead…I know Sing interviewed him too.
Sing turned down Jackson
Because he didn’t promise to run it up the middle on every play.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jan 6, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Raye was the ultimate yes man
Which endeared him to Sing—he appreciates people who don’t think.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jan 6, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Sing and "everyone else in the building" turned down Jackson.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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Does anybody remember the sobbing chick wearing
A LeBron Cavs jersey all over ESPN when he signed with the Heat? I mocked her. I hate karma.
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 11:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If it makes anyone feel better
Jed just tweeted that he has a good feeling about today. Oh joy.
by Call It The Throw on Jan 6, 2011 11:04 AM PST reply actions
WTF
Scefthner says Hardbaugh is meeting with the 49ers. Make up your [site decorum] mind.
Kellen Moore is awesome
i dont see anything
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Schefter is on ESPN right now and stated:
It does not necessarily look like Harbaugh will for sure sign with Miami. Miami is covering their bases and preparing to hire an OC if Harbaugh doesn’t want to sign. Miami also can’t even make an offer to Harbaugh without violating the Rooney Rule.
He says that it is very fluid right now and very hard to predict what will happen.
Sounds to me...
… like he was using Miami to parlay more money out of the 49ers.
If...
… he really is meeting with the 49ers right now:
JH: “So, I’m ready to go with Miami for $40M over five years.”
he didn't say anything on ESPN right now about meeting with the 49ers right now
i’m not sure where that came from
He actually did
About an hour ago, I saw it…He was just on again and didn’t say that.
If...
… Harbaugh was really just looking for an extra million a year or so from the 49ers and they walked, he’d seriously feel like he had a dozen eggs on his face. Other than the money, I don’t see why any first time head coach would want to go to Miami.
Agree but
I still think the 9ers original offer was closer to 6. 4.5 doesn’t make any sense. But if he wants 7 or 8 let him go…
I see it too
perfect haggling technique. just the sources saying he will sign is just crazy. Indian people would be proud.
Kellen Moore is awesome
right its in hindi
basically they are haggling
the girl says wow this is so nice how much
the first guy says 3 thousands
the woman says 4 thousand
the guy says 2 thousand
the woman says 2 thousand? is your store going under? 5 thousand
the guy says 1500
woman: deal
Kellen Moore is awesome
lmao.
Yes, we are very ruthless when it comes to business.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
"Jed here...yeah ill pay for fuel, and breakfast in the morning if you fly out here and help me drive up York's offer"
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
Basically its down to home and comfort or being the highest paid coach
There are merits to each, can’t blame him for leaning either way. If the 49ers swoop and sweeten the part that would be nice
by haroldansivakumar on Jan 6, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
so basically
he has no idea whats going to happen.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
McDaniels was the best fit
Harbaugh was always interested in using the 9ers to drive up his price. He was never a realistic choice in my opinion. Somebody like him can pick his situation, and the Niners are just too damaged right now.
As unpopular as it sounds, I wanted McDaniels all along. He’s intelligent, a bold game planner, offensive minded, and comes from the Belichick tree. Fresh off his first professional failure, he would have been in the perfect place to make the necessary adjustments to become a great coach, just like Belichick did after his first failure as Cleveland’s head coach.
But all the things that McDaniels has going for him—intelligence, boldness, and the Belichick pedigree—are exactly things that led him to surmise that the Niners just weren’t the place for him.
We’re going to end up with a retread or an unexperienced head coach once again. Same ole stupid San Francisco Forty Niners.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM PST reply actions
Belicheats Assistants Have Been Terrible
How have Belicheats assistants done as head coaches? They have failed in both college and the pro’s. What has McDaniel’s done other than make terrible decision after terrible decision?
I guess being terrible makes him a great candidate for the 49er
job.
I was only OK with Baalke if they got Harbaugh
If they miss out on Harbaugh AND keep the old FO in place, well this is an unmitigated disaster.
agree wholeheartedly.
this is a disaster. I don’t blame the Yorks for Harbaugh, but I do for putting all of their eggs in this basket.
by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
I am in between work right now, so just have a sec
From my outsider perspective this is what occurred.
1) Harb told York he was fine with Baalke or Lombardi: York hires the in-house candidate
2) The 49ers had been talking to Harb for weeks
3) The deal was nearly done before Miami stepped in with a crazy amount of money
4) Miami slapped logic and decency in its face by publicly courting Cowher, Gruden and Harb while still having a coach
5) Harb decided to take the money and lose a lot of respect publicly, but even more respect withing the coaching sector in the NFK
And finally
6) The 49ers are left with Billick, Gruden, McDoodle, Jackson and Morning as candidates; all with more NFL coaching experience than Harb
Not to sound like a homer; but Harb can go screw himself, take the money and sit out the playoffs in a division where two teams are much better, and a conference where 9 teams are better.
"He who lives on hope will die fasting" Benjamin Franklin was a fool
"If we are thinking playoffs, why not look towards the mountaintop"
I like my quote better
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 6, 2011 11:07 AM PST via mobile reply actions 9 recs
No1 has accepted anything.
Tyreke Evans for MVP!
by sac-townz finest on Jan 6, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Jed told the NFL that it was Baalke or nothing.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
You’re all blinded. This was a clever ploy by Jed to trick us into thinking that he REALLY was trying to get a big name coach. Now all he’s left to do is promote Jim Tomsula to Head Coach and you know what? I’m OK with that.
GO JT!
For the love of god, can we get a QB and a new HC?
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by return2greatness on Jan 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST reply actions
Well, if its Alex Smith at QB...
they’ll continue to sail too high and out of his reach.
Wait, I’m an AS supporter…
Oh well. AS jokes are fun.
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"Money Is No Object" =/= "Value Doesn't Matter"
I’m doing OK myself. When it comes to my water bottle purchases, I would probably also say “Money Is No Object”, give me the best stuff.
I’m not paying $50 for Voss. I’m not paying $25 for Voss.
I’d probably pay $10, at a club or a bar, which is still way more than I’d pay at a convenience store or market. What changed, if I wanted Voss water, why would it matter between $10 and $25?
Because it isn’t worth that much. It’s not that I’d rather keep the money – $15 is nothing – it’s that I’d rather throw away the $15 than spend it on something that clearly isn’t worth it.
Sorry Harbaugh FanBoys, but Jesus JH isn’t even worth Pete Carroll $$, nevermind the ludicrous amounts being tossed around. I’d rather we get Tom Cable for 2 mil and spend the other 6 – 7 mil on talent.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Jan 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
If there was one bottle of Voss at the Club
And it costed 15 dollars, and you offered the bar tender 15 dollars for it. But someone came up and offered 20 for it instead, you wouldn’t increase the offer?
Proportionally its about the same.
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
i would just ask for ice water at that point.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
FML as well
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
That's a better example
There might only be one bottle of Voss, but they have plenty of Dasani, and “maybe a Fiji or two in the back”, if I want them to look for it.
Some balding executive walks in with an attractive 20-something on his arm from off the street, and offers $30 straight up for that last bottle of Voss…
I compliment his lady, and ask how much the Fiji’s would be. Of course I have the money, but not for some overpriced glass bottle.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
What if you were in the desert dying of thirst
and some camel jockey comes around and offers you some water. How much would you pay? If the 49ers truly believe Harbaugh is the man to turn the 49ers around, they pay him the money. Of course, maybe they’re not totally sure he is the man and have some doubts. In which case, they walk away. Either way, it’s not my money so I say pay the man what he wants.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
That's valid
But there’s not even a guarantee JH will be any good! You’re dying of thirst, there are several oases you could crawl to (that may or may not be real), and you find yourself in an exorbitant bidding war for a canteen that may or may not actually contain suitable drinking water.
If the other guy wants to take that chance so bad, let him. I’ll find an oasis (Gruden, Billick, Jackson, Tomsula) on my own.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
That is quite a terrible analogy.
The 49ers are not dying and there are other candidates out there. Its not your money, but if Harbaugh does not pan out then Jed will look quite foolish. There has to be a limit on how much you pay the guy.
You wanted to keep Singletary for 2 more seasons..
keep it real Bubba.
Baalke Billick 2011
"Derek Smith is #1 in Backfield Penetrations"
That would have been a terrible idea.
It was painfully obvious that Singletary had no idea how to be a successful HC in the NFL.
I wanted a football minded GM
To come in and take over operations, and make the decision from there. If it meant keeping Sing through the end of his contract, so be it- I just didn’t think we could get anything done by cycling through coaches every couple of seasons without a GM that could actually set a vision and build a squad, including coaches, to fit that vision.
Of course Sing isn’t a HOF coach. But I don’t think he was the worst coach in the NFL, either- just very inexperienced and didn’t know how to right the ship once it started tipping. To be fair, he last studied coaching under Mike Nolan.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
I think it was pretty apparrent that Sing had neither the people management skills nor the football knowledge required to be a head coach in the NFL.
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Via Maiocco's twitter
The private jet belonging to Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is still at San Jose airport . . . 11 hours after it landed.
Bet Harbaugh is telling the Niners bye bye then hopping on the plane
Seems unlikely that he would agree to anything without talking to his family ...
… unless he’s a world-class douche.
Comes home,
To his kids and wife…“I know you all have friends and established lives in California, but pack you’re things, were moving to Miami. Already shook on it”
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
Promoting Baalke and Hiring Josh Mc Daniels is exactly
The moronic type of thing I would expect from this organization. I’m going to have to find something else to do on Sundays in the Fall and Winter if He actually hires Mc Daniels.
"Well that's something that we want. We want to be in the mix. We've been looking at this right now as compared to the NFL playoffs and I think it's probably the closest thing to what our situation is. It started last week with Oregon. We had to win, stay, and hunt for the Pac-10 championship and the same is true this week. We lose and we're out of that. We win and we're still in it. That's tough, that's like put up or shut up time like I said before. That's kind of our only mode."
- Jim Harbaugh
Miami fan here in bay area
I’m shocked because I was convinced that Harbaugh was just using us to squeeze a few more bucks out of you guys. Heck he lives right down the street with 3 kids, you’d think he’d love to stay……
Howz Teddy treating you guys? (no sarcasm, honestly curious..)
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Isn't it five kids?
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he's been solid. and eff you btw. jk.
but on the real. Ted’s been solid on returns and caught a TD in our final game.
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
by afrikabamboodle on Jan 6, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
Yeah some of regret him being traded. Really could have used that speed opposite Marshall. But you guys have to be pretty stoked with your WRs and Davis….
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honestly i would have to say our WR corp has been disappointing this year
Crabtree really hasn’t taken that leap forward and Morgan always seems on the verge of a breakout but never actually there. And Ginn… well did you know he had frying pans for hands?
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
by afrikabamboodle on Jan 6, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
crabtree looks like a #2 wide receiver. But I guess with our offense, you can never tell.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Crabs never has any YAC
He can catch. But thats about it.
by 49erEmpire80 on Jan 6, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Haha we're such a joke
Cross off former Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels from the list of potential fallback candidates for the San Francisco 49ers.
McDaniels is not interested, according to a source I spoke with Thursday.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/30899/josh-mcdaniels-not-interested-in-49ers
Welcome, glad you could catch up with the rest of us.
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Just lamenting not necessarily adding
I’m going to need a lot more kool-aid if I’m going to catch up with this crew
No offense to you personally
Just annoying when people continue to quote the same things over and over like it’s new information
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Some people aren't depressingly pessimistic about everything.
Your hyperbole is a bit much.
anyone know if Mooch wants to coach again?
Seems he’d be a welcome arrival here
He coached last night
Under Armor HS game.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I <3 Mooch.
I’d welcome him back with open arms.
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This is my first post.
Don’t worry I’ll bring good luck.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO IF HARBAUGH SIGNS WITH MIAMI
We all make giant life sized fat head posters of Bill Walsh.
Then we all make giant posters of that Harbaugh picture up top with the tiny pee pee and under water.
Then we all go to Miami HQ with ours signs outside along with our chant saying “You’’ll never be like Walsh” “NIENER NIENER NIENER”
And then we head to Oakland and egg Al’s mansion.
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by afrikabamboodle on Jan 6, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions
If harbaugh doesn't sign with the Dolphins
Do I owe my girlfriend an apology for visciously screaming at her for suggesting Long Johns Silver for lunch?
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 11:21 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Unrelated events
Nothing absolves her of the latter…
Holy WHAT
Wow: Jon Wilner reports that Stanford is about to announce that Andrew Luck will STAY at school for 2011 season.
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Surprised but not surprised
Luck is not your average football player
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't see that coming.
Especially with Harbaugh coming back. He could really hurt his draft stock if the team isn’t good next year.
lmao
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
awesome
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Luck staying
Harbaugh staying at Stanford too.
Luck's staying at Stanford
Kawakami tweet:
“Wow: Jon Wilner reports that Stanford is about to announce that Andrew Luck will STAY at school for 2011 season.”
Talked to Nolan
Harbaugh talked to nolan about the yorks. Ha! He’s going to Michigan!!
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Luck is staying put
timkawakami Tim Kawakami
Wow: Jon Wilner reports that Stanford is about to announce that Andrew Luck will STAY at school for 2011 season.
Can someone explain Paraag to me
Seems like he’s the lightning rod for all this front office stuff. Is he making draft decisions? Are outsiders not cool with a stats centric approach to personnel?
by haroldansivakumar on Jan 6, 2011 11:24 AM PST reply actions
He is not making draft decisions.
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From what I understand...
… he’s not making draft decisions.
He doesn't make personnel decisions in general
From what I understand, his analysis is just a tool for whomever else is around to use.
As far as I understand, he is their main contract guy (which I think he’s been pretty good at), and he runs probabilities in various capacities. He doesn’t make any final decisions, though.
i thought he was like a cap manager and contract negotiater?
but i don’t know for sure.
Baalke Billick 2011
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
huh?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
He...
… actually thought Luck would last to #7. Or even more delusional, he thought the 49ers were capable of trading up to #1.
lol
But doesn’t he know?
Jon Kitna is going to be our franchise QB.
We’ll trade the 7th overall pick to the Cowboys to get him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
shaun hill is a free agent
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 6, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
7th rounder for jimmy clausen and wish lolol
by PartyStarter on Jan 6, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
makes no sense
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 6, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
HIRE ZOMBIE BILL WALSH!
No more mock draft sig for now...
by See Jay on Jan 6, 2011 11:27 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I'd love to!
But I heard Chris Ross is paying him like $3+ mil under the table to just stay dead.
Kawakami tweeting that he’d rather go back and be cremated than coach this sorry group again.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
Guess that Stanford education not all its cracked up to be!
Luck would be stupid to not come out now
If he came out now he would have to play for Carolina.. He may not want that and decided to go ahed and stay in school.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
I think
Harbaugh told him to throw next season so his stock falls and he can draft him wherever he ends up..
I think John Elway is behind this.
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
so this all work out for us
we will hire Jimmy Raye and let the team tank next year.
exactly
and it would be in place for him…so this year or next he will get a similar amount…
Also
Who even knows if there will be a season next year. Im sure there will be but this has got to factor in to a lot of peoples decisions.
VOTE
Who wants site decorum off in the next thread?
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I'm not going to participate
But you probably should turn it off for at least one thread.
These guys deserve to blow off some steam.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
YES x 8,000,000
Ha, see what I did there? 8 million…
-Brett G.
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Jan 6, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
off with Site Decorum
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
No Luck isn't necessarily good news for us
Less talent in the draft. I really want Peterson. Possibly pushes him up out of our reach
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I don't think it really
makes much difference. We have other needs.
With Luck not declaring
It looks like Jake Locker really may be The Guy…
No more mock draft sig for now...
AJ Green
Or that guy Bowers.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 6, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
wow haven't seen you in a while chikmagnet
been waiting for that analyzing all the QB drafted post thing. Last one was Pennington right?
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
by afrikabamboodle on Jan 6, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Harbaugh puns will be taken to the next
Level of greatness without decorum
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 11:31 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Well, Baalke, it looks like it's in your hands!
Hope you’re as good as the Yorks believe you are. These negotiations will tell, as well as our record this year.
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Everyone is assuming that Harbaugh not liking the 49ers FO structure refers to Baalke
I think it could very well be Jed he doesn’t like and not Baalke.
He already said he like both Lombardi and Baalke.. and only Baalke and Jed are negotiating with him.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
its about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$
by 49erEmpire80 on Jan 6, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Newton, Locker, Mallett, Gabbert
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Locker
but not at #7. 2nd Round maybe.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
He won't fall
not with Luck staying. Locker is a lock (ha!) to go top 10 now. If he’s around at 7 we gotta grab him.
No more mock draft sig for now...
I'm not so sure
I agree he’ll be gone by the 2nd round but I think they could trade down to around 15 and still get Locker.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
That would be a mistake IMO
- is too high for him.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
meant to write #7 is too high
must slow down. Harbaugh-mania has me anxious.
by AptosNinerFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Locker right now, but I need to research Gabbert some more.
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I was put off by his scouting report on MockingTheDraft
they said he doesn’t read progressions, just one-and-run.
No more mock draft sig for now...
Locker Gabbert Mallet and then Newton
we suck. but theres always next season.
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Jan 6, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
locker, gabbert, newton, mallet
Locker looked really shaky this season but i think that is due to poor decision making. Something i hope a good coach and some time could fix. Has the most pure skills of any qb in the draft, luck included. Im just not sure if he can translate those skills.
Gabbert next. I just think hes a protypical nfl qb
newton next. i could go either way with him or gabbert. I love newton’s skills. Not sure if they translate to the nfl
mallet im meh about
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by operation carrot on Jan 6, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Why doesn't anyone like Newton?
I thought he those “intangibles” everybody is raving about.
by 49erEmpire80 on Jan 6, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Gary Radnich reporting that Jon Wilner is reporting..
.. that Andrew Luck is staying in schoo/LOL Panthers.
I bet he comes out if a new CBA is agreed upon before the draft.
Overplayed memes:
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by say hey nation on Jan 6, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
would be too late, has to declare by the 15th
otherwise he’d end up in the supplementary draft and not get paid the same.
by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010611aac.html
an official statement.
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
by afrikabamboodle on Jan 6, 2011 11:39 AM PST reply actions
Peter King is an idiot but...
@SI_PeterKing Peter King
RT @MinnesotaMaven: Steam building that Harbaugh stays at Stanford. How shocked would you be? … Not. Said it was likely on NBC last week.
What?
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6 to 8 million reasons
he will go
Here's money for a cab. Now entering sleep mode. beep beep beep zzzzzzzzz
It's a gamble for both of them to stay.
Luck just needs to look at Leinart – who cost himself tens of millions of dollars by waiting an extra year.
If Harbaugh coaches another year at Sanford and they regress, the bloom will be off the rose and he won’t be getting $5m offers, much less $8m ones.
Luck could easily drop ten spots in the draft if he has a sub-par season or gets hurt.
Big, big risks.
although dropping in the draft does cost Luck some money
it may end up putting him in a better situation for overall success.
Would Aaron Rodgers have turned out the same if he’d been drafted by SF rather than GB?
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i don’t foresee luck dropping in the draft — maybe he falls to 3 or 4 but that’s doubtful.
but he will definitely make less money once the rookie pay-scale goes into affect. he’s honestly not even in the best position right now bc what if the NFL has a lock-out? He can’t play, and you have to figure that his dad, with his NFL connections, knows that that is a very likely possibility.
Young And draft a shutdown corner in the 1st round.
Yorks need to make a push for Vince to win the fans back after this debacle. For those who hate Young check his record as starting QB. Now compare that record to our QBs in the same time frame. I’ll live with a winning QB with attitude than a straight laced losing QB. Alex Smith anyone?
by Ador08 on Jan 6, 2011 11:40 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I'll take VY
if and only if he can straighten out his attitude problems. I don’t want some D-bag coming in here and acting a fool.
No more mock draft sig for now...
Oh jesus
Please, no more. God help us. We already suffered through a failed QB experiment for five years. Can’t we aim a bit higher than this?
by Call It The Throw on Jan 6, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Rick Mirer is likely available
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also check the fact that he is under .500 against over .500 teams
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by afrikabamboodle on Jan 6, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I'd be pleased
If Harbaugh stayed at Stanford. Sad, yes, that he didn’t sign with the Niners but just to shove it in the Dolphins face, I’d LOVE it if he stayed at Stanford one more year.
If both Luck and Harbaugh stayed at Stanford it could be to try and win the National Championship
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God this stinks
I was initially pissed at Boy Jed for not going “all in”. Ya know what, f*** Harbaugh. Sporano is sitting on his behind in Miami while Ross cuts him off at the nuts by hiring Harbaugh. Better do a good job, Jimmy Boy, or the boss will look for suitors while your dodging bullets in Miami.
can someone explain why Gruden is getting written off so easily?
I think he’s got to be in the top 3 at least
Gruden is waiting after CBA is signed
He is not interested until a new CBA is done.
he is not going to come out and say this
but it makes sense.
Miami offered him $7 million a year to coach and he said, "no".
That gives me the impression he’s not interested in coaching this year.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Like a fart in the face-the chickens come home to roost
You got to love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It wouldv’e been a recipe for a disaster to have an unproven GM AND and unproven NFL coach, with the blind leading the blind.
Talk all you want about young Jed, but he did the right thing letting this guy go.
D train to Bensonhurst Brooklyn BABEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Decision: Jim Harbough
After today, I have learned so much more, Jed York just keeps his lies coming by saying money is no object to get a coach, if Stephen Ross is going to make Harbough the highest paid coach, thats $8+ million a year because Bellicheck makes $7.5 million a year. Harbough is mainly about money because even though $8 million a year is hard to turn down, why would he say Trent Baalke or Mike Lombardi would be okay with him and he is not the Head Coach with no personal power. Maybe if Baalke wasn’t going to be the next GM, I wouldn’t mind offering Gruden $7 million and control of the team where he can pick his own GM, same with Cowher. The Cowher and Dolphins thing broke down because Cowher wants complete power. But Jed did the right thing by not trying to over pay for an unproven coach with no coaching experience, Just move on. But we do have to still hire an offensive minded coach. Maybe if we do bad this year, and we can score the #1 pick and draft Andrew Luck in 2012?
Jed York and his lies
Money is no object to find a coach, yeah right, $5 million a year where Michigan offered him over $5 million, new Stadium, okay, 2014, right. now its 2015 because of the labor issues. Just keep the 49ers here in SF and build it here, add AT & T as the sponser or Comcast.
York really sucks. All talk no action just a little rich punk is all he is.
by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM PST reply actions
Match Pete Carroll's Salary
Plus more incentives, considering that Oregon has some considerable tax breaks. This keeps the rivaly strong and would hopefully lure Harbaugh to SF knowing that he wouldn’t have to move his family.
It’s kind of ridiculous that he’s getting offered upward of $8 Million without any NFL Head Coaching experience. What does this say about Miami’s front office? I didn’t know the owner was RICK ROSS
Why is our off-season more exciting than our regular season?!
Whorebaugh
So much for the Walsh legacy ….. Harbaugh is chasing the dollar
Our front office is screwed up? How so when Sparano is left blowing in the wind while this jackass Stephen Ross chases Cowher, Gruden and now Harbaugh….. Ross and his sleazy, classless FO belong on Jerry Springer ….. not in the NFL. Jed time for damage control and a means to extricate your head out of your ass…… Go after Holmgren !!!!!!
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