Nnamdi Asomugha To Become A Free Agent: Let The 49ers Chatter Begin!
by David Fucillo on Jan 9, 2011 11:48 AM PST
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PrintAlthough the 2011 NFL playoffs are officially underway, Bay Area sports has found a new way to butt in on the conversation. After a week that saw Jim Harbaugh sweep the site into a frenzy, we have a new topic of conversation: newly minted free agent Nnamdi Asomugha. The Oakland Raiders cornerback had certain incentives in his contract that were not met and because of that he will become a free agent when free agency begins at some unknown point in the future. Thanks to Delmuir for the preliminary FanPost on this, as well as brundylop's FanShot.
According to Adam Schefter, Nnamdi had certain incentives he had to reach otherwise his contract would void. Additionally, the language of Nnamdi's contract prevents the Raiders from franchising him, which is obviously a big deal. For those wondering about the contract, it was a three year $45.3 million contract that made him the highest paid DB in NFL history. To reach the necessary incentives, Nnamdi had to play in a greater number of defensive plays in 2010 than he did in 2009 or improve on his interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season. He didn't have any of these this year. He missed two games due to injury and that cost him the defensive plays option.
Needless to say Raider Nation is not pleased with this development. When Nnamdi hits the market he'll be the most sought after defensive free agent, and possible overall free agent. I'd imagine the 49ers will be in the mix in some form or fashion. However, there are a couple things to consider. First is when free agency will actually start. Free agency is set to start I believe the first week/weekend in March. However, if a CBA has not been signed at that point, free agency will be delayed indefinitely.
While the NFL Draft will happen even without a CBA (the picks just won't be able to sign), free agency could be pushed well into the summer depending on how negotiations move along. If that's the case it will impact a lot of decisions because then teams will be drafting ahead of signing big name free agents, which is the opposite of the normal process. A guy like Nnamdi will still be pursued, but with a high pick in the upcoming draft, do the 49ers go with a cornerback anyway?
The other issue is of course the money. What's it going to cost to sign arguably the best cornerback in the NFL? Maybe it won't be a record-breaking contract like his previous deal, but it's going to be pricey. Much of this will depend on the cap numbers after a new CBA is announced. A big issue has been the percentage distribution of revenues between players and owners, which affects the salary cap. Does the team want to invest a big chunk of money in one player at this point? It's a hard point to argue at this point given the labor uncertainty, but it's something that will have to be considered at some point down the road.
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Shop local
Harbaugh from Stanford, Asomugha from Oakland. We’ll win the Super Bowl in a green, 21st century way, by shopping local.
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by LondonNiner on Jan 9, 2011 11:52 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
+1
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by return2greatness on Jan 9, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Cut Clemmons
cut this fool. give his money to Asomugha.
by david w gibson on Jan 9, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Kwilo Racharris
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
by bignerd on Jan 9, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Get Him Now!
Harbaugh, make this happen please! then you can concentrate on QB and our offensive machine!
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Here's when Jim should not mention Stanford AT ALL
with Nnamdi being a Cal guy and all.
"I don't get out of bed, for a million bucks!"
- Edgar Renteria or a hooker bribing a family man?
Remember we can't have any Cal guys!
Oh wait, that guy is gone. Okay lets get the Cal guy!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
that is why
we did not draft desean jackson and Aaron rodgers
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 9, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
OMG NO NO NO!!
I don’t want a player whose in his prime and probably reaching his downfall soon, Asomugha is almost like Nate Clements..fancy free agent w/ a big contract and probably going to bust us up.
I can see your point
But to me, Asomugha outranks Clements in multiple ways. Asomugha is a proven shut down corner, in the ranks of Champ Bailey, Darelle Revis, etc. I’ve never considered Clements in that category.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
Go after Champ too while we are at it.
He is another free agent.
by 49erEmpire80 on Jan 9, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
champ would make a hell of a safety though....oh daydreams
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 9, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
But he's 32, about to be 33 and at the end of his prime...
he’d be solid but not quite the shutdown corner that Asomugha would be. I just wouldn’t want to pay Bailey big-time money and a likely long-term deal when he is likely only going to decline… even though a dimished Champ Bailey is better than anything we have now.
Charles Woodson is 35..
and he’s still going strong. Nnamdi might be similar. 13 completions on his side all year? Worth it to the Niners to at least pick up the phone.
Nnamdi vs. Nate
Even at his peak, Nate Clements was never considered a classic shutdown corner. He was a very good corner who could tackle well, but he didn’t lock up 1/3 of the field.
by David Fucillo on Jan 9, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Who knows?
If they decide to keep Nate and manage to sign Nnamdi, maybe they will bring out the best in each other. But if they need to Release Nate to free up some cap space, than I’m fine with drafting as good a CB as we can and going full throttle to try and sign Nnamdi.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
We
won’t pay upwards toward 25MM for two corners, that just isn’t going to happy. The only way Clements sticks around is if he takes a dramatic pay cut to move to safety or to play in the nickel. I honestly think him moving to safety would be the best career choice for him (see Rod Woodson and Aenas Williams)
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Nate has been overpaid for YEARS...............
Cut him or major pay cut.
D train to Bensonhurst Brooklyn BABEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By that logic, one should never sign any big free agents...
Comparing Asomugha to Clements is a tough one… Clements is solid and we overpaid for him but Asomugha is a generational CB who can absolutely lock his side down. Unless it prevents you from filling other needs, you almost CAN’T overpay for a guy like that.
I disagree...
…I think CBs are overvalued, particularly as free agents. Their performance is too often dependent on the pass rush. Also, because of rule changes re contact, true "shutdown"CBs have become pretty much non-existent in the NFL. I’d rather we put that money into a strong pass rush and draft or sign more economical CBs.
I don't
If you can force a team to be one-dimensional you’ve won half the battle. Are pass-rush specialists overrated? Are QBs over-rated?
I don't think you can force a team to be one-dimensional...
And no, pass rush specialists and QBs are NOT overvalued, which is why I suggest we allocate our money to those things.
why are we comparing nnamdi to Nate?
Nate can at least tackle. Not quite sure what Spencer can do. Is it because of the money?
by wtlichens on Jan 9, 2011 6:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not Again
Can we afford to bring in someone with another Nate Clements like contract? Or should we spent the $$ and go after a good QB? I’m thining we need more help at the QB postion that the CB position.
Just the thoughts of a new guy.
Just do it
by DelawareNinerFan on Jan 9, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
sure we can
Clements was worth it when he signed, and his contract has been blown all out of proportion to what it actually is
If Clements
lived up to the hype and played the way he did with Buffalo the contract wouldn’t have been absurd. Instead, he has tanked it for the most part for the 49ers
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I disagre
I think he’s been a solid CB for most of his career. Top 15-10 most years, plus his contract was touted as the “biggest contract ever” for a defender but all that money was backloaded.
Solid
but not a #1 cover corner that we paid him to be. That is the point i was attempting to make
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'll have to dig the numbers up
to see his contract compared to other CBs over the past 5 years and compare them.
I think
it was comparitive to Antoine Winfield in Minnesota, Terrence Newman in Dallas and Asante Samual with Philadelphia. But, i could be wrong
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think he's played on Winfield's level for sure
as well as Newman. Not as good as Samuel over the same time period, but few have
I would agree in regards to Winfield
but, Newman had four or five really good all-pro type seasons with Dallas before succombing to injury problems
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be interested
to read his stats/money ratio up against similar CB’s in the league. I think that may be the only real way to see if he’s earned his keep. If it turns out he has, then great..I’ve been wrong many, many times. I didn’t think the Seahawks would win, didn’t think the Colts would lose..and never thought he Niners would start the season 0-5.
Just do it
by DelawareNinerFan on Jan 9, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
backloaded
aren’t we on the back now?
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Solid?
He can tackle, but that’s about it. His feeble coverage skills have been expsosed by mediocre WR over and over, and year after year.
HIS MIDDLE NAME SHOULD BE “TOAST”
D train to Bensonhurst Brooklyn BABEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But he didn't
live up to the hype. He really sat back on his laurels. I was stoked when he was signed thinking we had a real difference maker, but he never really impressed me..not for the kind of money that was talked about.
Just do it
by DelawareNinerFan on Jan 9, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
How should we spend the money on a QB?
Is there some amazing franchise QB available that I don’t know about? Come on… Spend the money, he’ll give us five solid years of years where we might be able to win some of those close games.
I think
You try your hardest to get this superb corner, and draft one anyway. Clements has a good enough skill set to drop to safety while Mays and R.Smith can rotate in as well. Or keep Clements as a corner and keep him in that rotation as well. Depending on what kind of veteran QB we can get and if there is a QB worth taking at 7, that is.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
can't do both
If we want this cat, Clements has to go. NO way we pony up the money for both. I like Asomugha, draft a high rounder (2nd imo), and send Clements packing. Too much money for to few results. freshen up that secondary. The problem is, why would Asomugha come to San Fran? At this point in his career, I’d bet he is going to look for an established team, not one in full on rebuilding mode. here’s hopin though.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
No reason not to go after him
If we release Clements, you would be looking at a total annual salary difference in the 5-7MM range, not bad for the best corner in the NFL. This would enable us to move Spencer to the nicke, and still possibly go after Amukamara/Peterson in the 1st. The 49ers weren’t really active in the major free agent scene last offseason, however, with the addition of Harbaugh and our FO new mentality, i see us being much more active this season. Asamugha played for CAL and has been with Oakland his entire career. Needless to say, he is a local boy with ties to the community. If the 49ers are able to offer comparitive amounts of money, i believe that Aamugha would chose the local team first.
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:06 PM PST reply actions
My mouth
Drools at the thought of Nnamdi and a first round CB out of this draft together.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
Revis > Asomugha.
Still, not bad for th second best corner in the NFL.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Wrong
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 9, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
seymour and Asomugha good pickups…….
niners might be priced out from both new cba will be the factor.
this free agency will be interesting.
A good free agent signing on defense could go long way to improve the defense
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Hali
will be franchised
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
We don't even know if that is going to happen
the players don’t like to be franchised and the Owners what to get some stuff.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
I think it's time to play the Chiefs off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J—-aiyznGQ
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"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
by mikeinsp on Jan 9, 2011 12:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Asomugha on the cheap...
I’m certain that he won’t be actually cheap but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I think he’ll sign for a likely winner, longer-term contract that averages out to about $10.5 million a year.
He’s a smart guy who knows that Davis paid him too much (not from performance perspective but from a business one) to field a competitive team, thus he must know that he’ll make less as a free-agent…
Why opt out of a contract that’ll pay him more than he’ll possibly make as a free agent? It doesn’t make sense if he’s only pursuing dollar signs.
Call it a hunch, but I have a good feeling about this one and I hope we sign him at $11 million a year or less.
I think we could do a 5 year deal
for $50-60 million. We could help pay for it by cutting Clements (whom I like but I’d dump him quick for Nnamdi) and Spencer
No way in hell he goes for a second
Even a third is stretching it.
Official Survivor of 2011 Harbaughcalypse.
he gets a lot of crap from 49er fans
because we see him more, but he’s still respected around the league. Champ Bailey (if he were under contract) would easily go for a 3rd or 2nd—Clements is at least at that level.
ARE U KIDDIN ME??????????????
Are you saying Clements is better than Bailey???
D train to Bensonhurst Brooklyn BABEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I maybe wrong.............
But one of these 2 are in the probowl every year, the other isn’t.
I am not sure at what stage you are talking about.
D train to Bensonhurst Brooklyn BABEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he wants to play for the jets who might get another island
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 9, 2011 12:29 PM PST reply actions
did they re-sign cromartie?
if not they have kris jenkins, braylon edwards and cromartie coming off the books plus who ever else.
would love to see him as a 49er but im doubtful. after spending his career on bad teams i think he’ll be looking for a sure fire winner.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 9, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Shaun Ellis and Santonio Holmes too
However, i think they would retain Cromartie at a cheaper price before going after Asamugha. They woun’t pay 30 million for two corners
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
They've got Revis
plus they’ve got Kyle Wilson, a first round pick. I can’t see them purusing Nnamdi. They need WRs anyway
Is this CB who was dating SINGLETARY'S daughter?
First we need to get rid of Clements & develop CB from draft or current stock, I THINK?
Stronger men have called Sing dad before
That stare is deadly.
"I don't get out of bed, for a million bucks!"
- Edgar Renteria or a hooker bribing a family man?
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 9, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Can you imagine our pass defense with Asomugha on one side
and Prince Amukmara or Patrick Peterson on the other?
I have seen the top of the mountain...
And it is good.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
That would be awesome
it would have a dramatic trickle down effect. Taylor Mays wouldn’t be asked to cover or double on the outside and he could just lock up the middle and the opposing TEs. Mays lack of coverage skills would be disguised to a great extent as we would be able to go 1-1 on the outside.
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
If we can get a decent DB coach
Maybe we won’t even have to worry about his coverage skills as much. But agreed, the opportunities are endless.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
I could see Derek Mason, Stanfords current DB coach as a nice addition to the 49ers staff
He did a great job with the Cardinal secondary.
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
If Chris Peterson gets hired by Stanford
I’d love to get Boise’s CB coach. He’s very, very good at coaching up his players
by smileyman on Jan 9, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I've heard rumors
That JH is at least bringing his DC over. I wonder how many other staff members from Stanford he’s bringing. I don’t know to much about them, but allegedly there is a lot of NFL experience on that staff.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
Sounds good.
Bring them on over. This team could use some fresh blood.
I am very happy about the DC Fangio
He is a very good coach and did great things at Stanford. He has also been a DC in the NFL for a few different teams, sorry I didn’t feel like looking it up. I believe the Colts and Texans are two teams he coached.
In Jed We Trust?
it would make our run defense so much better
Mays could play like a deep LB. Makes me wet just thinking about it
pass rush
good coverage does not make pass rush better it is the other way around. If guys don’t get to the QB they still won’t be able to if the coverage is good. Just more check downs
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
Really?
Never heard of a coverage sack? Give me a break, they compliment each other. Yes the ideal situation does call for quick pressure on the QB to force bad throws or get the sack. But good coverage also causes indecisiveness and can force the QB told hold on to the ball which also causes sacks. You’d think as a 49er fan you’d know all about that.
In Jed We Trust?
Top 10 pick
With the money needed to sign Asomugha and with VD and Willis new contracts we probably wouldn’t be able to pay for a top ten pick. Year one and two would be ok but with each guy getting more money in the latter years of their contracts it would become very expensive. I think the Niners would have to trade down.
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
CBA
top 10 pick will be pretty cheap. number one overall is looking to get about $15 million guaranteed max somewhere between $20-25. #7 will probably be $10 mil guaranteed or less.
Where is this from?
I haven’t seen anything regarding actual numbers yet. Especially with the supposed reports that the two sides are “no where near” seeing eye to eye at this point…
In Jed We Trust?
Nnamdi Asomugha is a terrible name for puns
How can we sign him if his name is terrible for puns?
just call him n/a
as in opposing QBs are n/a (not applicable) when he’s on the field
by smileyman on Jan 9, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Reminds me of Deion in his prime
He completely takes an entire side of the field away from the defense. I remember my sister asking why we didn’t hear Sanders name a lot in the games and i said “that is because they don’t throw it his way”, the best respect you could get as a corner, and i see that in N/A
Wholey shoots and ladders, Tim K tweeted me that Harbough is my uncle, but he still needs to verify his sources after he gets his cavity filled
by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Deion was probably the last true shutdown CB in the NFL...
…because they changed the rule in 2004(?) to restrict contact after 5 yards. Also, teams now play so much zone that 1-1 matchups are rare.
I'd like to see the NFL
move to allowing 6 eligible WRs. This will almost elminated zone and force teams to back to man coverage. A side benefit will be far fewer nasty hits on wide receivers coming across the middle
no
thats dumb. The zone allows for a wide variety of blitzes.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
just becuase 6 eligible is allowed
doesn’t mean that it’ll be used on every single play. you don’t see 5 eligible all that often right now. it’s a good way to get more zone, which means defenders will have to learn how to defend man.
If you blitz on a play with 6 wrs you deserve whatever bad things happen to you.
Nnamdi Asomugha'd the ball away from TO
I think that could work
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jan 9, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
His name is pronounced Aso-MOO-wah
9/8/10: 49ers go 11-5, Lose to Falcons first round. Smitty: 3500/25/15. Gore: 1300 yards, 10 TDs. Crabtree: 1000 yards, 7 TDs. Vernon: 900 yards, 8 TDs
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 9, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Right
In which case, a Wu Tang cover version for him. “Aso-Mugha! Mugha!”
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
Willis hits QB. Ball sails. Asomugha intercepts.
= Asomughatchutalkinbout Willis
by jveezy on Jan 9, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That’s so bad but also it sort of works. Upon reflection, have a rec.
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
If they go out and get a deal done
I’ll be more sold on Baalke and Jed. Time to see if the pockets are going to get tight now that we got the coach deal done, or if money is still no object.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
start a poll
how much should the niners pay for him? everyone who wants him, would it be at 15 mil per year still?
There are 4 positions that are crucial to have and you must pay a premium: QB, DE, LT, CB. The Niners have one of those. It’s time to address the others.
I fully agree
The team has players everywhere else except the four most crucial positions. Hopefully they can draft one and get another via free agency.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Maybe even $11.5 for five years.
I just wouldn’t want to go higher as we have other people we need to sign and other holes that need to be filled.
Still, imagine the trickle-down effect he’d have on our defense as a whole!
Upon further review...
we might not want to get our hopes up.
The contract termination was automatic and wasn’t optioned by Nnamdi or the Raiders. Nnamdi has show a loyalty to the Raiders in spite of their dysfunction and might be inclined to stay there although I’ve read that he was a big fan of Tom Cable and was disappointed in him being fired.
If he was disenfranchised enough by Cable’s firing then maybe his loyalty to the Raiders organization will breakdown a bit. He’s still very loyal to the bay area and his charity work so maybe that combination of factors will make it possible for the niners to have a real shot at signing him.
I have my reservations as to whether we can, or even want, to sign him but if he’s available and interested I hope we do.
A shutdown CB trickles down to improving the entire defense including stopping the run and getting a pass-rush.
A bit off-topic
Do we think the Twitter account @JimHarbaugh is genuine? I keep hoping he’ll tweet about the 49ers job and also update his profile information. The fact he hasn’t yet makes it more likely to be real I guess – a faker would have updated it straight away.
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
That's a good question
He may be one of those Jeff Fisher style coaches who doesn’t believe in all the social networking websites and technology and doo-dads.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
Exactly
I remember when Vince Young tried to text an apology to Jeff Fisher and he went on a mini rant about how he doesn’t believe in all that new age crap. I couldn’t help but get a mental image of Singletary.
Sorry Miami fans, don't Harbaugh a grudge on us.
It's genuine
But he doesn’t tweet much at this time.
He would tweet stuff about his recruits during the summer
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jan 9, 2011 1:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
good point
how many contracts are flat anyway? so like a 5 year, 10,11,12,14,16 = 63 million. a 12.6 million average. that’s a lot for a db, and drafting one in the top ten won’t be cheap either.
In the immortal words of John Malovich from Rounders
“Pay the man his [site decorum] money.”
Sure would be nice to have a lock-down secondary. How about a contract comparable, but higher than, Asante Samuel?
Pay the man his money
That phrase reminds me of this song. Love this song.
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
With much trepidation I opened your link
Thought for sure I was gonna be Rick Rolled, ha. But no, it was a great song!
New to NN!!!
I’m new to this but have been a 9ers fans since 91 cant wait to begin the 2011 season!!!
by Harbaughmanation on Jan 9, 2011 2:03 PM PST reply actions
Dancing on Ice
Vanilla Ice is on a TV show here – started tonight. Dancing on Ice – do you guys have that show? Premise is fairly self-explanatory – celebs dancing on ice. When Vanilla came out I made a joke to my wife about how much he looks like David Carr but she doesn’t know who David Carr is. My humour is wasted here in this house.
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
Thanks
I have been reading everything everyone has bee saying since this harbaugh talk started notice no one has used harbaughmanation yet sounds good
by Harbaughmanation on Jan 9, 2011 2:08 PM PST reply actions
Hit reply when replying to comments. Now, did anyone tell you when you joined up that if you have a reply fail within your first two comments, you have to post a picture of yourself with your underpants on your head? Just a little rule we have – I’m sure they told you.
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
by LondonNiner on Jan 9, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahh I see
Sorry wont let it happen again dont wanna look like singletary with my pants down
by Harbaughmanation on Jan 9, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Lets get him
I would love if we got Nnamdi would sure up our CB problem would still be nice to get another corner thru the draft though
by Harbaughmanation on Jan 9, 2011 2:10 PM PST reply actions
Dalton??
What does anyone think about Andy Dalton as a QB project in the WCO?
by Harbaughmanation on Jan 9, 2011 2:17 PM PST reply actions
I like him
Only saw him play twice this year but I liked what I saw both times. I am surprised there isn’t more talk about him at the next level.
In Jed We Trust?
having a shutdown corner like Nnamdi can be counterproductive
If you guys don’t remember when Nnamdi had Hall on the other side of the field Hall was absolutely abused every single game since they didn’t throw to Nnamdi’s side. Our secondary would still be in trouble unless we can get a better safety (Dashon .) and a stronger CB to be opposite Nnamdi. I wouldn’t trust Spencer or a rookie playing opposite Nnamdi and having to defend 15+ passes every game going towards him. Nnamdi would be a great pickup but let’s hope we get additional help as well.
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
I would still expect Nate to start opposite
I don’t care what anyone says, he is still our best CB.
In Jed We Trust?
i definitely agree nate is our best corner
and I’m not too sure about what his contract is really like but I am sure that people exaggerate how much he is getting paid. I mean people are disappointed that he isn’t a shutdown corner yet we paid him like one but now with a shutdown corner like Nnamdi, Clements playing opposite of him is exactly how he should be playing on a depth chart anyway. He’s good enough to be a starter on any team and with a talent like Nnamdi, he would definitely NOT be a liability going against number 2 receivers. He can’t cover the Reggie Waynes of the league but he can definitely cover the Josh Morgans.
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
by afrikabamboodle on Jan 9, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
And how many true shutdown corners can you even name? There aren’t that many out there. I get what his expectations were because I had them too, but he has still been solid in many aspects. I think he looks bad at times because he has the freedom to gamble a bit and rarely gets the safety help up top to compensate. He has definitely had his share of boneheaded plays though. That deep ball a couple weeks ago stands out in my mind, where it appeared he had a clear pick and some how whiffed entirely and the pass was completed. But I think with a shutdown on the other side and more safety focus over Nate it would be nice.
In Jed We Trust?
did someone say
Cromartie is a FA this off season?
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Meh
He got smoked a lot this year. I’d take him if we could get a good deal and it was our last option.
In Jed We Trust?
not his best year
but I see him as a good journeyman type player. Don’t over pay and he could be a good value
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
ridiculous
A shutdown corner only limits the production of the offense. Hall got abused because he’s past his prime and not a lockdown man to man cover guy anymore. Raiders didn’t use him right.
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
I was also curious as to why the Raiders would have a contract set up with an auto termination clause
When Nnamdi gets so few balls thrown in his direction how is he supposed to meet the number of plays, interceptions or fumbles required? Is it to protect against some sort of decline they might fear he was going to have or just bad planning?
Niners, Lakers and the Warriors... when Lakers have the night off.
probably because of the ridiculous money built into it
it’s a nice out clause to help Al Davis save some money
Any chance
Clements takes a pay cut? He’s at what, $11 mil a year, right? If he’ll take a cut and stay, and we pull off the long shot and get N/A, I STILL say add one in the draft. That is depth, Clements can move around to safety, we shore up the secondary, and can go hunting for some
LB depth. And OL depth. And a RB with some golden hands and a high upside. And a QB. And another QB…..You get the idea.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Our LB depth and OL depth is solid...
We used just about every one of our offensive linemen this season at one point or another, and are at least comfortable at LB… Remember, McKillop will come back next season, and he and Bowman make for excellent depth…
We need a Dexter McCluster type back and a QB, but I’d have to say that the starters at certain positions are a MUCH bigger issue than the depth…
Anyone know off the top of their head
What flavor D-fense Harbaugh had at Stanford? 3-4, 4-3?
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
smh....
by reading most of y’all comments, y’all would rather keep shawnte spencer over nate clements….how do u expect somebody to become a shut down corner when all they run is zone defense & when they do play man D he holds his on 8 out of 10 times so why are most of u guys hate’n on him. Spencer is the one who get beat every play & can’t tackle, clements lead our secondary in tackles….
As for Nnamdi he’s good an all but I’ll rather try to get ronde barber & champ for about 20_25 million for both of them plus extra cash for other free agents than spending 40_50+ million jus for Nnamdi. jus my opinion
barber is 35 and champ is 32
i can’t see any justification in signing players that old for more than a supportive role. and there’s already talk in denver of converting bailey to safety.
right on about spencer though. we don’t have just one need on defense. we could use an upgrade to the system (ie, coaching) more than the parts.
& I don't think it's known for sure if Barber will still play next year or not
Supposedly he was asked by Morris to return next year though.
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Ty law, ray Lewis, rod woodson, ed reed, rodney harrision & a few other I could name had good years in they mid 30’s, so I don’t think 32-35 is old. Ronde can still play and is an hell of a upgrade from spencer, & champ said he wants to play safty yeah but he never said doing so with the broncos. I don’t like the ideal of drafting a DB with the 1st pick unless we get patterson, other than that we should look at an OLB or WR jus in case lawson don’t come back.
Namdi Asomugha too the 49ers is highly unlikely I think he's tired of being apart of a loser
He’ll probaly sighn for less then expected but go to a winner maybe the Pat’s I can see that can’t you?
lol
yeah I see him being signed by a great team just to piss me off. I hate when good teams sign good players and we sign David Carr.
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
Sup everybody
Hey there. Been following the forums since the start of the season and been a Niner fan since the early 90’s. First off i just wanted to say you guys are hilarious. All the Harbaugh puns were great. Now, I’m all for signing Asomugha and drafting a corner, and letting spencer and clements go, I’ve never really been high on Spencer and even though I like Clements as a #2 corner he is way overpaid. The only way I’d keep him is if he’d restructure his contract. I say get Asomugha and Kolb and we’d already be significantly upgraded at two important positions. The funniest thing about this is my buddy is a huge Raiders fan and he went off on a rant today that if they don’t re-sign Asomugha he’s switching teams to whoever signs him. Totally fed up with Al Davis’s B.S. I told him we’d sign him and then he’d just have to move across the bay :)
First thought was: "just sign him", second tought was....
… but then Nate Clements will get abused on the other side a lot more often than now. If we let Clements go (which seem unlikely, but could happen), who are we going to get who will be able to handle all the attention?
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