Jim Harbaugh Updates Joshua Morgan, Braylon Edwards Situations
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 1:16 PM PDT
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Print49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh conducted his weekly Monday press conference earlier today and had plenty to discuss following the team's huge victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A good chunk of the press conference was devoted to updating Joshua Morgan's injury situation.
The most interesting comment came when a reporter mentioned the ankle surgery. Harbaugh had confirmed he was having a procedure and acknowledged more than I expected with that. Then, a reported mentioned the ankle and Harbaugh was quick to correct the person, stating it was lower leg. Folks are now reporting that Morgan has a broken leg as opposed to fractured ankle.
It remains to be seen what exactly the injury is given that a lower leg injury could still mean an ankle injury. In reality, all that matters at this point is that Morgan hurt something in his lower leg and he will miss an extended period of time. Some are speculating it's the end of the season for him, others think he could be back in time for late season and maybe playoffs if the 49ers are in fact able to make the playoffs. Whatever the case, the 49ers need a receiver and Harbaugh did say they would be looking to add one to the 53-man roster.
Coach Harbaugh did seem to confirm that Braylon Edwards would hopefully be back after the bye. He was not asked if he could play this week, but rather simply said he hoped Edwards would be back after the bye. This would mean he would be unavailable this Sunday against the Lions. In the meantime, the team will look for some other wide receiver options via free agency and their own practice squad. I'd imagine they'll be looking for guys who can play special teams and block as needed.
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extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 10, 2011 1:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Errr erase that "am" stupid phone.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 10, 2011 2:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
what about bringing in TJ Houshmandzadeh for a workout?
I’m sure he’d take a one year vet minimum contract… assuming he has stayed in good shape.
no thanks.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 10, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
he is not needed on this team and he should stay retired. rather bring back a broken antonio bryant. niners offense is not really pass focused offense and the nienrs still have vernon davis who is the niners number one receiver.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 10, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
With Braylon expected to be back, it is not for certain that they will add another receiver.
Niners did not add a receiver when braylon was injured and with braylon coming back and morgan going down there would be the same number of wideouts; add to the fact the niners do not use many multiple receiver sets.
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Anyone know
the status of TO??? hate him or like him, if he’s healthy definitely worth taking a look at. Knows the west coast system and still a physical presence in the middle of the field.
by Str8Balr on Oct 10, 2011 1:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Pro Football Talk is "reporting"...
via TMZ (PFT pretty much is TMZ) that he OD’d on pain killers last week. Not good.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa… if that’s true shows he’s mental state.
by Str8Balr on Oct 10, 2011 1:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude is unstable.
It’s pretty sad really.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
TO is one of my fave players
Would love him back at the Niners. Hope he gets better soon!
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Well, he's one of my LEAST favorite players (ever since he disrespected the Cowboys (who I
hate, but treat respectfully), himself, and the 49ers that long ago day when, after scoring a TD, he ran to the 50 yard line not once, but twice in the same game, and struck a pose reminiscent of someone proclaiming himself to be God). He has reinforced my feeling about him on numerous occasions when, on the sideline with the camera on him, he would scream for all to see / hear “I LOVE ME SOME ME!!!!!!”.
He’s a cancer on the sideline, he’s a cancer in the locker room, our young rapidly gelling team needs nothing less than it needs a disruptive and divisive entity such as TO (or Randy Moss either, for that matter)
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I saw the first episode if the surgery. That’s the last I saw of anything TO related.
by Str8Balr on Oct 10, 2011 1:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Stop hating on T.O.
The guy clearly has emotional issues…personally I think he’s a raging bipolar. Don’t hate on a guy with psyciatric problems you’ve never been in his shoes
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
and he ALWAYS worked hard probably harder than any of his haters
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see the hate on TO. Just wondering if he was available to play but I needed to catch up on my tmz news
by Str8Balr on Oct 10, 2011 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't mean anyone in particular lol
I just feel like there’s alot of irrational dislike towards him floating around the sports world and it’s really not justified
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean other than the fact that he has been a cancer for every team he has ever played with?
He is definitely NOT a Harbaugh, team first kind of guy.
I would rather take my chances on a young guy that might step up!
I know people who are raging bi-polars
Sure having a friendship with someone who suffers from bi-polar disorder can be stressful confusing and at times infuriating but that doesn’t make them bad people
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Its not exactly a point in his favor
That someone who is not a mental health professional has observed his behavior from afar and decided he is bipolar without anything to substantiate it otherwise.
If you are a mental health professional, then my apologies.
by hammystyle on Oct 10, 2011 4:25 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
you've got that right
there was a much better chance that a coach like Singletary would’ve brought TO back. Sing thought that he could fix character problems. Harbaugh looks for guys of a certain character so he doesn’t have anything to fix (the contrast between the last two Niners drafts are a good illustration of this— headcases to boyscouts).
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
I remember him breaking down after the “Catch 2” and sobbing and hugging Mariucci and everything. The guy clearly needs some help.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Has Avery signed with another team yet?
They brought him in for a workout, maybe cf an option
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by EcERyda69 on Oct 10, 2011 1:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, he was signed after Britt's season ending injury
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
In camp Alex...Ziegler was favorite W.R.
We all know from past seasons, that Ziegler has fantastic hands.
I believe if Harbough simply asked Alex about Ziegler, Alex would endorse the 9ers re-signing him.
Ziegler at 6-3 / 185 lbs tall & lanky… but the kid can play and clearly make circus type catches.
I get that people don't like TO....
But I don’t understand how you could rather have Ziegler. Even at TO’s age, he caught 80 passes last year for 980 yards (rounded, can’t bother to look up actual numbers). It’s hard to think Zeigler would outperform TO at this point….
position
In my opinion, they’re not looking to bring in a #2 wide receiver. They’re looking for a guy who can play on special teams and block. Ginn and Williams get the bump in playing time.
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And the last thing this team needs when we are on a roll is a TO
No need to break momentum ;-)
I agree with this.
Morgan is a #2 that’s out for an extended period of time, but he’s not out for the season. We have Crabtree as a #1 right now, Edwards should be back soon and Ginn and Williams should be fine in the interim. We’re looking for another WR to fill in at ST and give some depth in the rotation, not to be a game changer. Morgan’s loss hurts, but others currently on the roster will be asked to step up, not a big name FA that we had no interest in signing before.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Crabtree has been the #1 since Edwards was injured.
That’s on the depth chart, by the way, I’m not saying anything about their skill level or contribution to the team. Morgan’s been great, but he’s still the #2 receiver.
I love T.O. but I think he needs to move on from football for his own good
Plus if it is true he over-dosed on painkillers it means he’s either in a real bad place mentally OR that he still hasn’t recovered from the surgery to repair his torn acl and is in ALOT of pain. Either way he shouldn’t be playing
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think we'll sign anyone unless Morgan goes to IR
we might get away with waiving colin jones to the practice squad again, but honestly, I think we’d be better off just playing around the Morgan injury instead of trying to replace him with a PS person.
If we sustain another injury at WR, we can bother bringing someone up at that time.
Yeah, I can't see it.
Maybe Lance Long or someone like that but I doubt they bring in a vet FA… guy would have to learn the playbook and all that… doesn’t make any practical sense.
And who knows? Maybe part of Harbs’ strategy is to say Braylon won’t be ready and then, whoop, miracle baby… he’s cured.
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I wouldn’t be shocked if Moran Norris were waived at some point. Seems like Bruce Miller has filled in admirably.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Problem is, if we don't add someone to the roster now and someone goes down mid-game, we're at 2 WRs.
Especially considering Crabtree’s propensity for injury, the Niners really do need to add another wideout.
Just another opinion, but it's mine ...
If Josh has to go on IR, think that Ziegler is a possibility. In any case, it is most likely to be either John Mathews or Joe Hastings from the Practice Squad.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Oct 10, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I talked about bringing in TO last week..
He wants to play bad and he is having money issues so we could get him cheap.. I wouldn’t expect him to come in and be star receiver this late in he season.. But he would obviously be considered a deep threat that teams would game plan for which would open things for our other players.. I’m down with it.. Harbaugh knows how to keep everyone in check and T.O. Couldn’t walk in with a big ego considering we have been kickin ass without him.. I think he would be appreciative of the opportunity to just get picked by a team.. Add a winning 49ers team to that deal, which is where his career got jump started to begin with.. It could be a dream for him.. Guys seriously think Crabs, Braylon, and T.O, V.D.. All lined up. NOW THAT IS A DREAM TEAM.. ALEX COULD GET IN A SHOOT OUT NOW WITH GREEN BAY.. Especially with our defense.. Wow I’m dreaming too much.. But it could happen..
by pigskin slapper on Oct 10, 2011 1:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Hasn't what's transpiring in Philadelphia taught you to not declare yourself the "dream team"?
Bad, bad karma…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
More like the ‘Nightmare On Elm Street’ team, starring Vick as Krueger
by Doni S on Oct 10, 2011 3:21 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
WR Search
1. T.O.
2. Ziegler
3. T.J.
4. Practice Squad (Matthews and Long)
I wouldn't bring T.O. to my living room to watch a 49ers football game
He is done and mentally whacked.
T.O is just depressed that he is on the bench
And is broke.. He loves and lives for football.. He can still play at a high level.. I wouldn’t want him in my living room either.. I want him running down the side lines catching balls..you can’t judge players for how they are on other teams.. We took a chance on Braylon and he is has been obeying the law since…
by pigskin slapper on Oct 10, 2011 2:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
T.O. has always been unstable even when everything was good
He’s bipolar he needs help not more money fame and PRESSURE…and you’re all forgetting that he’s 38 and has a torn acl…
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Just to say ...
… I really don’t think you can report as a fact that someone has a medical condition when none of us know that. I’m not saying you’re criticizing TO, as I can see you’re supportive of him, and I am really not looking to get into anything. But I just don’t think it’s great to speculate on an individual’s mental health, much less report things like that as fact unless they are undisputed public facts admitted by the individual.
That’s all …
Not saying it as a fact but from personal experience
and from what I’ve seen of him he exhibits all the tell-tale signs he basically screams bi-polar
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the guy I feel I can relate to him a bit better than most can
I think he needs to find someone to show him there’s more to life than football and the fame. Popularity and attention are like a drug for people with bi-polar disorder, they need to find something constructive to do that gives them self-worth, in T.O.’s case clearly that would be football
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
TO
OK, but you kind of have reported it as a fact in this thread quite a few times. Like I say, not looking to get into it here or fall out, especially since I can see you’re very supportive of TO, but all I would say is this:
- This thread is not about TO
- If we do discuss TO it should be in a football capacity with relation to Joshua Morgan and Braylon Edwards’ injuries
- We shouldn’t be speculating on the medical history of individuals, much less reporting as a fact that they suffer from something which none of us know is the case.
Is it OK if we just stick to football matters? Thanks dude.
Fair enough
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Three seasons in a row, a team has said:
“You know what, we’re better off without this guy.”
And they’ve let him walk with no regrets.
He’s 37, well past his prime.
And he’s got a media circus following him around.
Why do we want him, again?
i kindly disagree, i would invite T.O. to watch a game in my living room.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 10, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I would not bring in TO
for the sole reason that he may disrupt our team’s chemistry and cohesion. We have very good players on our team, but no one our team is really talked about as being one of the league’s greatest stars even though players like Davis and Willis probably should be. TO is one of the biggest names in the NFL, and we would immediately make headlines for signing him. He may think that he is bigger than the team, and he may disrupt our spirited style of football that we are playing right now. I would rather sign a player like Ziegler
by Rygoslinglover on Oct 10, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
>>"He may think that he is bigger than the team"<<
There is NO “may” about it….
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
There is no chance TO and TJ come here, or are even being looked at.
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Braylon doesn't have psyciatric issues, isn't 38, and doesn't have a torn acl
Braylon is just a rich athlete still being told by all his boys back home he needs to act a certain way to be a real man…move him far far away from all the negative influences and he’s fine
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
Anyone seen Harbaugh’s locker room speech from this week? I’d gotten kind of used to it. Missing my weekly fix of WHO’S GOT IT BETTER THAN US! Haven’t seen one from this week on 49ers.com or anywhere else. Maybe they don’t do them every week – I don’t remember them being every week with other coaches but I’d started to wonder if it was a Harbaugh thing.
Yeah, me too
I was also missing that.
by doyoufeellucky on Oct 10, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
Maybe the Morgan injury had to do something with it
by Huey49ers4life on Oct 10, 2011 2:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The morgan injury sucks
He’s not a star but he was a nice, steady presence…I hope his absence does’t throw off Alex’s rythym
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Leading WR by yardage
Vernon has more, but as far as the WRs go, he’s got 15-220 and a TD.
He's retired and will only unretire for the Pats.
He doesn’t know the system, he doesn’t block.
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second part is a killer
definitely not a fit, IMO. Given the number of sweeps and outside runs the Niners are caling, you can’t rely on Moss out there.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention the number of plays when Moss is on the field that he simply "takes off"
meaning he simply chooses not to participate in that play…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Something T.O. never did
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 10, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely expect Ziggy to be the guy.
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"By now if u don't believe the Niners are for real ur probably not that good at what u do..." - Donte Whitner
What's with all the T.O. talk around here?
Strange, but this hardly seems like the message board for a team that just crushed a playoff contender by 45. Now everybody wants to freak out, and bring in an over the hill pariah?
Personal feelings aside, T.O. is well past his prime anyway. I’m going to miss Morgan as long as he’s out, and I welcome Braylon back to the fold, after the bye.
Let’s remember the “patience” theme that’s worked so well thus far, and let our 4-1 coaching staff make the right decision.
Also, side note: I was pretty happy to see the coaching staff go for the throat on 4th and 3 at the tail end of a blowout. The injury was unfortunate, but man, that play was great. Harbaugh has some serious stones.
I survived Nnamdiwatch 2011
by Mertons_merkin on Oct 10, 2011 2:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Harbs just wanted to make a statement about our offense. Underestimate our ability to make plays that translate to points on the board and you will suffer the consequences…again & again & again
by Doni S on Oct 10, 2011 3:30 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Some 49er love on Sportsnation right now.
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"By now if u don't believe the Niners are for real ur probably not that good at what u do..." - Donte Whitner
The Morgan injury sucks.....
but I definitely don’t want TO, Randy Moss or any other “big” name.
What I would like to see is for K. Williams have an increased role, or at least see the field some more.
I’m pretty sure Braylon will be out this week just to get him to 100%, when we do go 3 receiver set (not very often early) I see Crabs opposite Teddy, with Kyle in the slot.
Ginn is going to have to up his receiving game, but once Braylon gets back, him Crabs, VD, Walker, with Gore and Kendal out the back will be one of the most beautiful things that this team has seen in years.
..and a props for our o-line the last couple of weeks. I guess they don’t suck, but next week is a huge test, and i’m looking forward to it!
49ers-Lions (Week 6)
Let’s preface….
I understand you guys won’t welcome T.O. to our organization. My point is that the 49ers won’t be helpful against the tough Lions rush defense led by Ndamkong Suh. I know two Lions defensive backs are hurt so the 49ers must have an experienced NFL receiver like T.O. I would like to see T.O. has chance to finish his NFL career as a 49er.
Thanks,
by Tantrum16 on Oct 10, 2011 3:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No
There is no reason to think it would help the team, at all…
Beating the Lions certainly doesn’t require him.
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