Monday Night Football Recap: Lions Talented But Flawed In Victory Over Bears
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 9:06 PM PDT
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PrintThe Detroit Lions improved to 5-0 Monday night as they defeated the Chicago Bears 24-13 in a game that was pretty ugly. The Lions eventually broke through, but not before slogging through a first quarter so hideous it is likely going to play on a loop in hell for eternity. The game was filled with penalties as the two teams combined on 26 penalties for 198 yards. It was ugly football but there were a few things to take away from the game.
Head after the jump for the run down. Feel free to add some of your own thoughts on the Lions performance and what to take away from it.
Calvin Johnson is really good
In reality, he did not exactly show off all his wares tonight. He had the big 73 yard touchdown reception, but that was more a matter of poor defensive decision-making. You don't put a safety one-on-one with megatron. Vernon Davis could have made the same play against a safety. It's a great play by the offense, but more a case of smart offense than Calvin Johnson being an athletic freak.
Trap Jahvid Best
He struggled through the first half before blowing up with an 88-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. The Bears did an excellent job containing early on, but they lapsed late and were burned accordingly. The 49ers defensive front seven is awesome against the run so hopefully they can continue their strong play as of late. Best has struggled for the most part this season, so it's not rocket science slowing down the Lions in the run,
Rushing on the edge
Matt Forte had his way with the Lions on the edge, piling up big run after big run when he went outside. The Lions defensive line did well on interior runs, but struggled sufficiently against outside runs that it is something the 49ers offensive game-planning will hopefully take into account on Sunday.
At the same time, that defensive line is something to behold. While they appear to have only grabbed three sacks against the Bears, it seemed like they were in Jay Cutler's grill most of the evening. The 49ers offensive line performed well against the Bucs and will need to build on that this Sunday.
"Punch 'em in the mouth"
That was a Singletary mantra of sorts, but this year's 49ers are actually doing that this season. Calvin Johnson is plenty tough to cover down the field, but if the 49ers can get a consistent pass rush together, Matthew Stafford could struggle getting the ball to him. When the Bears got in Stafford's face, he would whip some passes up on occasion, but he couldn't get quite as much going. That seems a little bit like common sense, but sometimes common sense needs to be emphasized.
The 49ers have plenty of work to do if they want to take Detroit's zero. The Lions are inconsistent at times, but they bring talented playmakers on both sides of the ball. The 49ers could make a statement with a win, but a loss isn't necessarily the end of the world. Well, if they're blown out it is cause for concern, but if they put together a solid four quarters of football they'll be in a position to have a chance at the road upset. While it'd be nice to go in and dominate every which way each week, going on the road and having a chance at winning is a good start.
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Thought they were chanting MVP, MVP, MVP
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lol
How do you get that mixed up?
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by Drew Kerr on Oct 10, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
going into early hate-mode for the opposition
by ParisRoxanne on Oct 10, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope that even if we lose next week, that we kick the crap out of Matt Stafford.
Bury him in that turf as much as possible.
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this
is probably the only effective strategy to stopping Megatron. Hope that our Missouri Smiths bring their A-game.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
They aren't going to have a day of rest.
They’re going to be playing sore on Sunday.
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Dallas, Minnesota, and Tampa all held them off significantly enough to be in the game.
Bears and Chiefs have very bad offensive lines.
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by Drew Kerr on Oct 10, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We almost had Dallas and killed Tampa and both those teams played the Lions tough.
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I was not overly impressed by Fairley from what I saw… but I wasn’t watching the whole game either. Suh and Vanden Bosch on the other hand are going to be tough.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha..Steve Young playing mind games for us
“they can go undefeated for a while…”
yeah, steve, inflate the lions’ ego…
Maybe he feels like he is jinxing them.
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If they beat the Niners
They will be at least until they visit Chicago.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Pay WR Morgan his respects...his loss to our offense is B-I-G!
You don’t easily replace a beast blocking WR and our best WR this season.
Weez gonna MISS Josh, Big Time!
okay, how many times are you gonna beat this drum?
by ParisRoxanne on Oct 10, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Williams is a pretty damn good blocker.
Guy takes out defensive linemen, remember?
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by Drew Kerr on Oct 10, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
he also looked like a pretty good CB
think he has more passes defended than Spencer
It's actually his grandmother's request
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I have faith the Niners can beat the Lions
I cannot wait until Sunday. Go NINERS!!
Coach Raye crazy man. Says Yahoo in our training camp,We Didn’t know we had Wifi,cOach Sing says he likes UpGut.com. Bish! - Anthony Dixon
I don't think it's gonna be 48 - 3 again, but I agree.
The Lions are not invincible. Three games they barely scraped by.
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Three games the 49ers barely scraped by as well...
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw somethings last night with the Lions that didnt impress me for being undefeated to this point....
Of course we played some teams close this year, however, SF is getting progressively better each week. They also had a progressively difficult schedule thus far. When we pull out a win in Detroit, the only other teams I would be worried about are Baltimore and Pittsburgh….When we beat Detroit, and as we get closer, those two teams may have completely different complexions by then.
Cannot believe my eyes that the Bengals, out of all teams, have given up the least amount of yards defensively up to this point.
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are you
any more surprised we beat them in Cincy where buffalo couldn’t?
Getting in Stafford’s grill has got to be a top priority…fortunately their o and d are both still gonna be relatively sore come Sunday.
Fooch, is the team going to be staying @ Youngstown again in lieu of another 1pm start?
by Doni S on Oct 10, 2011 9:32 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I think they're gonna get after Stafford just like Freeman.
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It didnt look like they got after him well. Coverage had a lot to do with it.
Aldon needs to start this game.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 10, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
I think he is going to be a freak in a couple of years. Sooner he plays full-time, the better.
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Agreed, plus...
Fangio may mix in more exotic blitzes to confuse the young fella…and put him on his back
Makes that SF win over the Bengals even more impressive
And Seattle’s run D also looks good, making our poor rushing numbers in the opener look not so bad.
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Want to know just how good the 9ers O-Line is (or is not)?
Be there , this Sunday, the rumble in the jungle, Mo-Town.
Who kicks who’s A _ _…..Suh and those pass rushers or the 9ers O-Line?
Dude
The Lions Pass rushers are not the 2nd coming of __________. They are good yes but not elite. Suh is great Ill give you that but I cant even name the others? Chicago’s Oline is pathetic and the Lions with the lead pinned back their ears and teed off. They are not that scary.
by Displaced_Dano on Oct 10, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No
They are very very good.
Vanden Bosch and Avril are no slouches…
's first game of the year.
That D-Line is impressive.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
I figured he should know Fairley so I went with two lesser-knowns that a lot of people should know too.
Go tell Solari they aren’t scary.
Vandenbosch is old. Best years in Tenn. Fairley is unproven. Suh is beast. I am not calling them lackeys, but it seems to me that you are harping on it like they are Mathis and Freeney.
by Displaced_Dano on Oct 10, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Last night...
Suh was not nearly as impressive as Avril on the line..and Carpenter appeared to be pretty good too
Coaches
Neither HC gets an “A” grade tonight for clock management (Lovie), game management (Schwartz) or team discipline (both).
- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
BEST OF THE WEEK EVER
49ers vs. Lions.
Only Jim Harbaugh knows what to do!
by Tantrum16 on Oct 10, 2011 9:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
A couple of ifs
If the Niners can stay disciplined while the Lions take a bunch of penalties, and if the OL can protect Smith against that pass rush, I like our chances. The Lions’ ends looked really fast tonight. Keeping Smith upright is my biggest worry heading into this game.
keep their defense honest
when they do those fast rushes screen them. this game is going to be on how well we react to the rush and alex has been great when under pressure. look for bubble screens, draws, dumps in the flat. if we get enough of those off it will slow their pass rush and open the mid/top of the field. not to mention how our TE’s match up against their LB’s and DB’s. i really think we have a edge in this game but it starts with alex and the short yardage pass and off tackle frank runs
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 10, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yup.
i want em to rush smith. read somethin the other day, smith is second in passer rating to tom brady against blitz. tom brady and alex smith in the same sentence…..wow.
by Cyrus Rivera on Oct 10, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
wow… i just felt the floor of my house and its a bit cold… is it too soon to say hell is freezing over?
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 10, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
7 OC's later...
and smith learns that a quick slant beats a blitz. this alone will take him to the pro bowl. THEN u can say hell has frozen over.
by Cyrus Rivera on Oct 10, 2011 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
or...
god forbid all pro… maybe he learns the deep back shoulder fade and makes mvp
they’ll be selling hell-sickle’s down there for sure!!!
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 10, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Designed QB draws would be a good way to offset their edge rush. They were playing a little farther off to the side than I’m used to seeing…unless, those were adjusted line shifts for their ends. Pretty fast either way. I trust Harbs will have our team ready accordingly…
by Doni S on Oct 10, 2011 9:51 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
controlling Hester the Pester
Detroit did a great job at controlling the ball when Hester was receiving. I am hoping, to some extent, that they dont have the same respect for Ginn on special teams.
honest assessment
apart from the stafford-johnson connection and d-line, they dont look as amazing as the national media suggests.
its also important to note that thru 5 weeks, the niners and lions basically have had the same schedule. the lions are jsut 1 game better, and surprise surprise, perhaps it was that 34-30 win over dallas.
three "in reality"s qualifying Calving Johnson's performance
and he still comes out of that paragraph looking awesome. Megatron strikes again.
inmate
i hope goldson kills the lions recievers and TDs like he has the last 5 games cuz he should be convicted haha
I’m betting Megatron is Carlos’ assignment on Sunday…maybe some additional help w/Goldson over the top for good measure
by Doni S on Oct 10, 2011 9:56 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
yes, but also consider....
as a takeaway from the tampa game, the defense looks up and coming with that disguised zone stuff (rogers with a pick early on when it was schemed). i can only hope fangio drills away at it becuz it had an otherwise pretty good QB in freeman completely baffled…3 points worth.
by Cyrus Rivera on Oct 10, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
we were hiding man in zone in man
i really like our schemes thus far this season lots of misdirection
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 10, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
if anyone…. carlos should be johnsons assignment….. we dont have any one whos up for the challenge besides him.. goldson is just a finisher of plays
by 9er prospect on Oct 10, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think one or two good knocks could ring Johnson's bell enough to slow him down and make him hesitate.
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Ohhh baby...
Who would have thought one would relish a marquee matchup between the Lions and 49ers this much not so long ago? This would be the freakin SF red cherry on top of the early season sundae of Sundays if our guys pull it out, and devil be damned if the 49ers don’t have at least a decent shot.
So…might be pointless to muse over, but reckon FOX would consider this one for the national 1PM/10AM slot? I know its SF v DET (can’t be much media love), but cmon – with the 9-1 combined records and this much sudden success between these two clubs?
I’m begging here – GET IT ON!
I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.
Lions fans debating the 49ers over at POD.
Clayton Kershaw, Giant Killer
KEMVP
Kempin' ain't easy
"By now if u don't believe the Niners are for real ur probably not that good at what u do..." - Donte Whitner
Some are saying it is their toughest test yet (I'd agree)
Then I saw this…smh
1. Cowboys 2. Tampa 3. Bears 4. 49ers…
The Dis-Assembly Line – The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.
by rames on Oct 11, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
not that I hate the niners
but they’re not that good and while we may lay a bit of an egg next weak, they’re a mediocre team…
The Dis-Assembly Line – The unofficial, official name for the next best D-line in football.
by rames on Oct 11, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol ya.
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"By now if u don't believe the Niners are for real ur probably not that good at what u do..." - Donte Whitner
Followed by this...
right
just don’t have a good offense..but they’re a lot like the Bucs (without the QB) or Chiefs from last year…
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by rames on Oct 11, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s rather misinformed…the Bucs without the QB? All you need to see is a scoreline to refute that idea.
Totally different schemes on both sides of the ball too.
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Not sure what their beef is.
From a fan’s perspective, I’m not underestimating THESE Lions at all – but if they think our Niners D as irrelevant and the offense under classed, hope that their team thinks the same in kind. They will pay, win or lose.
I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.
It's just the one guy saying all that.
The rest aren’t.
Clayton Kershaw, Giant Killer | KeMVP
"By now if u don't believe the Niners are for real ur probably not that good at what u do..." - Donte Whitner
It's really just the one guy
He said Smith is trash, despite his rating being 4 pts higher than Stafford’s at this point.
Mmmmm...Point.
one man doth not make a fan base. Everyone’s got a few wingnuts (even here).
I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.
Yup
There were plenty of people to level him out. Not really sure how anyone could argue that the Bucs are still better than us…haha.
48 - 3 isn't enough convincing I guess. Maybe we'll put up a 60 burger on the next team we face.
Doh!
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by Drew Kerr on Oct 10, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm
one man doth not make a fan base. Everyone’s got a few wingnuts (even here).
Actually, he sounds like he could be one of the Alex haters over here…
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 11, 2011 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Lion fans aren't the brightest
From my experience they tend to accept a lot really dumb bets with awful consequences.
So you're saying we should con them all in to dumb bets whenever they come over to discuss the game this week?
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You could probably bet them that would have to get a giant Alex Smith tattoo on their back if the Lions lose to the 49ers this week and they will accept the bet. If you lose, kick them back $20 backs. That’s a Lions fan for you.
Except that is probably the most generous betting odds a Lions fan has received in some time. A typical Lions fans would jump to accept that bet in 2008 (their 0-16 team) while going on the road to play the Patriots that week
I think the only way we beat them is if our O-Line holds up
that is the game right there
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Turnover battle will win the game I think. Their Oline is no daisy either. Our guys will get after Stafford.
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My prediciton...
the team that scores the most points will win.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally positive
I’ll just add that the team with the lead at the end of the 4th quarter should have the advantage.
Sorry…I’m on a 10 month Harbaugh bender. I’m getting delerious. Is it Sunday yet?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally?
So what you’re saying is that a tie is impossible?
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Ohhh...
but that wouldn’t be a win now would it?
In all seriousness, when was the last tie in the league? Anybody know?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengals Eagles 2008
That game where McNabb didn’t know you could tie.
by Virginia9er on Oct 10, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Both teams would have the "most points"
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technically, I am wrong… you should have given it a little bit more fight.
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naa bro
you are wrong
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Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
blasphemous
and I aint your bro, brah.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
you aint my brah friend
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
booo
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
You’re too young to have seen that movie… or you would not be saying boo
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^ Who does this guy think he is?
Danny Elfman?
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Apparently my 80's movie knowledge...
is superior to my football knowledge.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyway... the chick in your video is hott Danny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDe5Ckt4joQ&feature=related
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Time of possesion is key imo
as much as i love our D, its our best bet not to put the ball in matt stafford and megatrons hands. so i think sustaining drives and coming up with points is the key for us to win next sunday
didnt work for Da Bears tonight
Chicago TOP- 39:03
Detroit TOP- 20:57
by Frisco_Kid on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Was it inflated by penalties?
Took an hour of Bears possession to get through the first quarter zzzz
I think that would be Martz’s fault for not protecting Cutler…Bears had the ball all day long and still can’t score…well, other than FG’s anyway
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 2:02 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
34 - 27 - 1 against the Lions all-time
Pretty close. A lot closer than what I thought before I looked it up.
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i remember that game
frank gore was a beast in that game
Huh?
That’s our record verse that team through the history of the NFL. 37 wins, 27 losses, 1 tie
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Shhhhh....
the third figure is Nedney’s single extra point – he was the 3rd team unto himself that day.
I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.
Last time the Lions beat the Niners : September 25, 1995
by ParisRoxanne on Oct 10, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know if that's good or bad but it's a new season and two new teams.
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yeah, i know
but i find it funny that even in the Niner’s dark years of 2003-05 the Lions were even worse and the last time they beat SF, the Niners were defending Super Bowl champs
by ParisRoxanne on Oct 10, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Stafford is a lot like Freeman if you think about it.
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I saw quite a few mistakes
He has an issue with overthrows, a few times were wide open WRs too.
He can be bad for a quarter and then turn around and light you up the next though. Calvin can do that for you.
That came from pressure
Our D-Line will need to pressure him all day thats the only way to keep the ball out of Megatron’s hands
That's impossible.
Better way to word that is “limit” Megatron’s touches.
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OR
Get Goldson to “touch” him after he catches it in the same way he did Mike Williams on Sunday. Megatron is a fantastic talent, but I am curious to see how he responds to getting absolutely lit up.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 11, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
But with a significantly better receiving corp, perhaps?
I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.
I really feel that Adam being inserted at RG has been a calming influence on Davis
They have been working well together & they will need that against their D-Line & that crowd noise.
All four of their starters along with Fairley can rush the passer.
Its a better pairing
Snyder cannot get out flanked by speed like Chilo. In a sense their strengths and weaknesses balance each out better than Chilo/Davis. However Snyder can be overpowered which could be a problem against Detroit.
I don't think he should have lost ALL that weight.
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It also helps to have a veteran next to a young guy
much better than having two young guys next to each other.
Off topic here
I was watching some NFL Network videos, and one was the subject of who they thought had a better chance to make the play offs, Bills or 49ers? Marshal Faulk picked the Bills… He cited they could beat teams like the Giants and Redskins coming up. Funny, because the Niners play those same teams this year too, and we don’t play the Jets twice or the Pats for the second time. What shocked me was that Warren Sapp agreed with Mayock, who actually gave us a lot of love. I don’t want to see our name up in lights all the time or anything, but to state that the Bills have a bigger shot at making the play offs when they are in the AFC East is absurd.
Do you think Faulk actually nerds out and breaks down film all week
or does he flip through a couple games on Sunday and rolls onto the set?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Mayock talked up our film pretty well.
Called us “for real.” Warren Sapp even broke down and agreed (although he seemed reluctant.) I assumed that someone who’s job was to cover football would probably actually watch film but you’re probably right.
Faulk's job
is to be Marshall Faulk and put together complete sentences.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Faulk hates the 49ers
I read plenty of comments complaining about other analysts not likely the 49ers. I’ve never, ever seen Faulk say anything nice about the 49ers. Remember he grew up a Saints fans than played for the Rams.
Sapp picked us to win over TB...surprise because he played with TB...
whereas, Michael Irvin picks the Cowboys to win no matter who they play
So pumped for the Lions game!
I’m super excited they won. They’ve shown they’re a worse team than us, we outmatch them in pretty much every area except Megatron. Yes, even the D-line: our front seven as a unit kicks their front seven’s butt any day. Man, a win over the Lions would be clutch.
Right!
Everyone seems concerned about their D-Line in the MNF game…Did they not show up? because they werent that impressive to me, except maybe Avril coming off the RT often…what about our D-Line? Ray, justin, RJF or Ice…and the entire LBing staff ROCK! for SF
Great line Fooch... I may borrow that one someday
The Lions eventually broke through, but not before slogging through a first quarter so hideous it is likely going to play on a loop in hell for eternity.
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the line
I actually think somebody else used the line for the entire 49ers-Bengals game.
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah... okay, well I won't feel as bad for jacking it at some point then
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Not to be a grammar nazi, but...
… I had to stop and write this after reading the first paragraph after the jump because you said “in reality” three times and “more smart” should be “smarter”.
Sorry, my brain is always on “auto-edit”.
Alex Smith Will Win a Superbowl
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should be a containment area for these comments
[that’s right, no punctuations, sentence structure … didn’t even bother to capitalize]
Yah, it just bothers me.
I have some kind of OCD-like disdain for it. I must say something when I see multiple errors in short sequence. “Megatron” should be capitalized in the first paragraph after the jump as well. I honestly haven’t even read the rest yet.
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I am being serious
howtheyscored can setup a running post like the draft coverage and whatever mcwagner does. A fan post dedicated to grammar nazis who can cut and paste bad spelling, grammar and in general poor use of the English language in other stories and/or comments than correct them. Can go to town with explanations and the breakdowns and maybe just maybe some us will visit from time to time to learn something.
by bignerd on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, I understand.
Did not realize you were serious.
I am in utter agreement with that idea – may even be the most frequent contributor! It would be great for feedback purposes so as to increase the overall writing quality of this forum. We’d become the most eloquent and aesthetically pleasing sports blog around!
Only the best for our soon-to-be six time Superbowl champions. :D
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 10, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
more smart
I meant something different than smarter. I changed the sentence to: “but more a case of smart offense”. Removed two of the in realities.
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW!
just took a look over at the Lions sight. Checked what they had to say about this game. They are sooo confident. They are saying that this will be there 4th hardest game (Tampa apparently was there 2nd hardest) and that Alex Smith is no where near Stafford because he is “Captain check down” (even though AS has a higher YPA then Staff) and that there is basically no chance that the 49ers win this game because there defense is good not elite and that we run a 4-3 defense.. which is news to me. I really hope some of the players on that team have the same feeling that these fans do. Im not saying we are going to win. 1 oclock games are tough. But WOW do they think they are the shit.
I'm willing to go easy on Detroit's fans...
because they’ve suffered like us. Both of our fanbases have had it so bad for so long. A lot of niners fans are feeling super confident right now. Maybe a little too much??? Well, it works both ways.
by TotallyBodaciousDude on Oct 10, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It's kinda true.
I understand Detroit fans’ ignorance as to how good the Niners actually are, but the fact is that the Niners are a comparable team, if not better. I personally think we’re a better team in pretty much every way. I don’t think their secondary can deal with our WCO and we will rain balls all over them. I don’t think their Oline can handle our rush, and I don’t think Megatron is good enough to save them from our elite defense.
I love what Alex is doing, but the Lions have a better quarterback. Also their receivers are better, especially with Morgan out now.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The Lions have a better QB, but the Niners use him better.
Stafford has no run support, and our run D is elite. Best will get less than 2 yards per carry, and no matter how good the passing attack is you can’t really overcome that. If it comes to a scoring match, the Niners will win, not because of the QB, but because of a balanced attack. Detroit can’t stack the box because their secondary is so poor, and they can’t stop the run unless they stack the box. Alex doesn’t need to be better than Stafford: he just needs to manage a balanced offense.
The Bears run defense isn't any slouch either.
They were at 14 games without allowing a hundred-yard rusher until tonight.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Bears run D was 15th in DVOA going into the game. The Niners were 1st.
And after shutting down the 5th ranked rush offense in the league yesterday, I’d say Niners run D >> Bears run D. Not that the Bears suck, just that they’re not on the same level.
Yeah I think he did.
Probably not 100% though.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree.
By what standard do you say that Stafford is better than Alex Smith?
Smith leads him in completion percentage, touchdown/interception differential, and overall quarterback rating. Also, they are tied in average yards per throw.
This despite Smith taking 8 more sacks.
I think we have the better quarterback, as well as the better team.
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 10, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Stronger arm, more accurate on the deep throws.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So, let me understand...
…those three things (which I would like you to qualify, by the way – do you have stats on how many deep throws Alex tries vs. how many are completed? What about Stafford?) outweigh QB rating, touchdown/interception differential (%), and completion percentage?
There yards per throw are the same, so why do your three undefined qualities make Stafford better than Smith, who is objectively playing better football?
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 10, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
First off, Stafford has a 13:4 TD/INT ratio, which is very, very good.
I promise you Alex will not continue his 7:1 ratio for an entire season. Secondly, Stafford has thrown a lot more passes than Smith and he is still at a 63% completion rate. I don’t believe it is legitimate to state that Smith is more accurate based on his 2% higher rate of completion. To answer your question, I am using the eye test when I look at the deep throws. Alex has improved in this facet, but as an example the throw he made to Crabtree that was behind yesterday that should have been picked. Also the throw he made to VD yesterday that was behind, where TB was called for PI is another example.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they are very evenly matched
Alex has thrown the least amount of passes in the league for current starting quarterbacks, so I agree, given the sample size, Stafford’s performance might be “tougher” since he’s thrown more balls.
But that does not negate the fact of Alex Smith having both a higher completion percentage and higher rating. And, head to head, I think Alex will continue to play smart, mistake-free football, whereas Stafford is going to throw at least one pick to our ball-hawking defense. Maybe even two.
It’s also important to note that the Lions have had to continuously overcome deficits, meaning that, yes, Stafford has had to throw the ball more. But where it counted last week in Philly, and we were the ones with a deficit to overcome, Alex played flawless.
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 10, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Not in the slightest.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Alex has been fine on deep throws.
Those may be qualifications for a “better QB”, but I think the most important thing for a QB is efficiency. They’re basically on the same playing field in that sense.
Yeah, they both have been very efficient, I agree.
Stafford is a more dangerous quarterback in my opinion, however, because he has a stronger arm and can attack deep down the field more accurately.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. But here's a question:
Gore and Hunter or Best and …?
I don’t even think we have a discussion on that front.
There’s no question the Niners have a more balanced attack, but I am worried about those big, game-changing plays. However, their secondary is so bad I don’t think Smith will have much trouble making those plays, assuming he gets enough time to throw them.
I don't buy that...
Stafford is more accurate with deep throws. When throwing to a receiver who has a vertical jump like Johnson I think your receiver may be making your QB look better then he is (as far as accuracy).
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 11, 2011 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions
'ppreciate that
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
AS does check down a lot...
But what does it matter…hes always been a beast in the Red Zone and we have a running attack…Oh ya, AS has made some decent long yardage passes too…
I think we matchup well against the Lions
It’s going to be a tough game, but……I don’t think Detroit’s linebackers/secondary can cover VD or Walker. Also, we have the ability to use our power run game (Gore) or use speed around the edges (Hunter), both of whom can catch passes too.
Detroit, before this game, was only 17th against the run. On offense, the are 28th rushing. If we can contain the edges and take away Best’s strength, we make the Lions one dimensional. Maybe we play nickel/dime a lot and dare them to run? There’s no way Megatron doesn’t get doubled.
by TotallyBodaciousDude on Oct 10, 2011 10:38 PM PDT reply actions
Wow, did anyone see the end of Sports Center?
ESPN pretty much taunted/dared the Niners to beat the Lions in order to “get some love”
It's basically true though.
If the Niners don’t beat them, all the national pundits will be like, “Ah, the Niners we all know.”
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Guys, I just don't think the Niners will lose. They should be favorites in this one.
I know for a fact that Detroit won’t blow us out, so no matter what happens the Niners will get respect. I wouldn’t be too worried about the game.
Favorites?
Do you know how lines work? Detroit is 5-0 and playing at home. How are we favorites?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I know what the lines will say, but I'm just saying that the Niners are a better team and should be favored to win this game.
I know I’m being a homer here, but I think a blowout vs TB beats a blowout vs KC any day of the week.
Gotcha
I don’t know if they’re better but I’ll enjoy finding out this Sunday.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course. I'm just very excited for this game.
And I’m excited that I’m excited, if that makes sense. This is the first time since maybe 2003 that I’ve looked forward to my team playing against a good opponent. Maybe all this excitement is getting the better of me.
Totally makes sense
and I agree wholeheartedly.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing is "fact" until afterwards.
Unless you are Marty McFly in Back to the Future II, then you cannot say that. This is a road game and Detroit is going back to work tomorrow.
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Ah, I looked it up...
Here was last weeks:
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Looks home made.
Something you’d find on youtube or something, haha
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Karate Kid, Weird Science, Back to the Future...
Life is not one big 80’s movie Drew Kerr.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm on a roll right now leave me alone.
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huh?
Lions will be favored by at least three points, probable 5-7. Home team automatically gets three points and the oddsmakers will not view the 49ers as better than the Lions.
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
5 points
Line opened with Lions as five point favorites.
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
interesting note
It opened at six, but dropped to five pretty quickly already.
by David Fucillo on Oct 10, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
It will probably be around 4ish I would guess before Friday
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Sorry, I should have clarified. The official line will likely be 6 points or so, especially with the home game.
I’m just saying, take the under.
Yep
and saying that, if you would have told me they could be 4-2 going into the bye I would have done back flips.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
The thing about Detroit, is I think they have been pushing the envelope and they are minus a day of work on the Niners. The one day may be the edge. Then again maybe not.
I just want to watch a good football game. And a lot of Matt Stafford on the ground.
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It should be...
an awesome football game. Who would have thought the “Game of the Week” would be 49ers @ Lions before the season started?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Not. One. Person.
Anyone who says different is a liar.
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kinda a bad omen here guys
the last time the lions were 6-0 they beat the niners to get there. im not a superstitious guy but you got to admit thats pretty weird.
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 10, 2011 10:48 PM PDT reply actions
In 1956, when the NFL didn't know what a forward pass was? Meh...
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yeah i know
still kinda a interesting tidbit
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 10, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Bobby Layne
invent the forward pass or something like that?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno.. I was BSing for the most part...
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Ronald Reagan did...
…@ Notre Dame
by ParisRoxanne on Oct 10, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Enter Optimus Prime, Chris Culliver, we should see Rogers on someone else, Rogers can’t keep up with Megatron.
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Nobody can keep up with Megatron...
Best thing to do is roll coverages on his arse and hope to slow him down and limit his touches.
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Or get the real optimus prime to crash the party and blow him away with a laser beam.
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Maybe that annoying robot from the Fox braodcast...
can provide deep help.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Rogers has the speed and is as tall as Culliver.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally, I think Spencer is the guy to matchup on Johnson.
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Rogers showed he can stay with ther receiver downfield like he did against D Jax.
Plus he is really confident right now and maybe he can capitalize on the “just throw it up to Johnson” strategy.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 10, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Spencer has the height and vertical to go up with Johnson and at least get a finger tip on those fades.
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You want Shwantae Spencer covering the best WR in the NFL?
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Spencer and Rogers covering the best WR in the NFL.
Between the two of them, they may, MAY keep him to 8 catches and 100 yards.
Nope… we need to roll people to help out, like I said. But yes, for the primary guy for the reasons I stated above. Burleson and Titus Young are no slouches either.
I would do it like this:
Rogers – Burleson
Spencer – Johnson
Culliver – Young
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Either Whitner and, or Goldson will have to help out always on Johnson's side.
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Word
I think it will be interesting to see what Fangio dials up.
It was like the entire secondary knew every pass play the Bucs were running on Sunday. I can’t remember seeing anything like that. Rogers was in a better position to catch the ball than TB’s receivers on a few plays.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
After the coaching extravaganza put on against TB, I'm cautiously optimistic as to how we'll contain the Lions passing attack.
I’d really like to see the Niners throw out some great defensive looks to confuse Stafford. With good pressure, we should be able to force some turnovers, and the Niners offense has done a great job recently capitalizing on takeaways.
10+ on takeaways to this point.
But Detroit is +8 too
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Film study.
This team is dedicated. They were all in the building early today. They’re eager.
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by Drew Kerr on Oct 10, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you're saying...
they’ll have to “look at the film”?
I wonder what Singletary meant by that. Maybe he just watched Citizen Kane every week.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm saying that they actually HAVE been looking at the film and not just saying it.
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It’s the first time most of them have ever been a part of anything like this. As exciting as it is for us, it must be 10x cooler for them to finally be a part of a good team. Hell, guys like Gore, Staley, Alex, and all the other 49ers draftees have been waiting their whole careers.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
All of them have seemed more optimistic than I have ever seen them in their careers.
They’re having fun…
Never, in these past seven seasons have I seen Alex Smith smiling the way he has been on and off the field. He’s always upbeat now opposed to his former, droopy, dull, glum attitude that he sported all the time before.
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I agree. Gore, too, seems much more upbeat to me than he’s been in the past. It’s really fun listening to them be interviewed now.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Delanie’s today was pretty cool… Rogers too.
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And the niners would be torched.
Best one on one corner on the underneath WR. Fastest corner with size on Megatron plus help over the top. Spencer is still overrated, I see
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Nah.
Match up wise, it makes sense. Calvin is not super speedy.
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If they didn't have Megatron would you be?
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NFL Primetime about to do some coverage on the Niners right now after the commercial.
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No more undefeated teams next week? Hopefully...
I don’t even care if the Rams win against Green Bay at this point. I just want the Packers to lose… and the Lions of course.
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I think...
…the Packers have a great shot of going undefeated heading into Thanksgiving Day against the Lions.
But the Lions, at least, will not be undefeated. We’ll make sure of that 6 days from now. ;D
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 10, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Drew
If Cully pans out and Rogers is extended what do we do?
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
in the draft
I was focusing on CBs in the draft but the secondary seems to be doing a good job
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Still draft a defensive back IMO.
Perhaps a wide receiver depending on what Braylon does too.
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I wouldn't mind a big body WR on the team
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/9/28/2456369/dwight-jones-nfl-draft-prospect-notes#storyjump
someone that can get those red zone jump balls
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Alshon Jeffery 6’4", 230 LBS
Justin Blackmon 6’2", 215 LBS
Michael Floyd 6’3" 225 LBS
One of those guys should be available… if not, the Niners have been doing a lot of shuffling in the draft to get “their guys”.
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For some perspective, Braylon is 6’3", 215.
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I don't want to spend a first round
I think Jones could be had in the late second.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
If we're covered in the secondary, why would it not make sense if Braylon bounces?
Makes perfect sense if he leaves.
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Justin Blackmon is my favorite WR prospect in years. Love that guy. Unfortunately he’s probably a top 10 choice, and fortunately I highly doubt we’ll be picking there.
I think one guy to keep our eyes on is Nick Toon— seems like he’d fit the offense and he’d likely be an option sometime after the first round.
One very small bright side to the Morgan injury— he might be more amenable to re-signing on a short term deal to re-establish his value.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 10, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of good WR's across the nation right now.
Ryan Broyles is going to be a monster in the NFL too. Broke the all-time NCAA receiving record last week against Texas.
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Also, not good for a WCO... that guy doesn't sound like a good fit for the Niners offense
There isn’t a lot of wiggle to Jones’ game. He doesn’t generate a lot of yards after the catch if he has to elude defenders.
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I just want a situationial player
Maybe even get the guy from Penn St the 6’5’’ guy. See how athletic he is and maybe he can play TE.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Well to be honest...
I doubt the current staff is going to waste ANY picks on a “situational” player of any sort at any position. These guys want the most they can get for each and every guy rostered.
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at worst a 6'5'' guy with a decent wingspan and jump is a situational player
If he speed is somewhat decent he could be a menace. I need to watch him play though but his measurements look great.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Until he breaks his legs coming down after a flip.
I’m good with prototypical sized, or slightly larger that can contribute in many areas opposed to one. You only get to dress 46 players on gameday.
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How many players are like that, that start in the NFL?
Just sayin’ …there’s good reason for it.
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Who said anything about starting
There is so much you can do with a guy that size. If he is down to block he can join the light heavy set.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I don't like the idea...
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Well I would like to see his 40 and his other athletic abilities
I doubt he would be worth anything more than a late round flyer.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
There's A LOT of other late round flyer type guys that I'd like to look at as well.
That guy has not even made my radar. I suppose he’s on it now though. We’ll see what happens.
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his size alone caught my attention
I haven’t watched him play yet but 6’5’’ 202. Well I guess he could put on a few more pounds.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I still think they need to look at CB or S...
Hell, I’d draft another QB as well.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He might… but if Alex plays like this all year and Kaep is on the bench, cannot see them going with one earlier than the 5th or 6th round.
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And they went after Tolzien pretty fast too.
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Probably right
but if RG3 is sitting there in the mid to late first, I’d grab him. I still hope they sign Josh Johnson personally. QB’s always have trade value.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If they don't draft one, I will be fine with it.
There seems to be bigger areas of need at the current moment.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I like our chances in this game
Lions are a good squad but not elite quite yet. The Niners have broken two teams down over the course of the last two weeks with their physical style of play. If they can bring that intensity on Sunday, and if the O-Line continues to improve, they’ll be in position to really make a statement to the entire league.
Lions are pretty physical too.
Probably the most physical we will have faced to this point.
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The thing that gives me hope is that the Bucs are a pretty physical team too who take a lot of pride on how they’ve built their trenches up. And the Niners beat them up to the point they were visibly giving up in the second half.
The thing I love most about the Lions game is that it presents a huge challenge and will really give us a feel for where the team is. If they lose, no biggie. It’s a tough road game against a surging team. But if they win… we’ll have to begin putting the Niners right below the Packers and Saints I think. Just a cusp below the elite teams. The team really has a chance this Sunday to show off their style of play and find out how they match up against a D-Line packing Suh and a host of other killers. I can’t wait.
by Gitaroo_Dude on Oct 10, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
They may be a physical team but they are a physical team on a short week that will have less time to "heal"
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they might be on a short week
but we’re playing an early game so it might cancel each other out. What day does the team normally travel to the east coast for the early games?
I don't know.
Harbaugh has been pretty unorthodox in what he does, so who really knows when?
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Good point.
Plus, the Lions linebackers are not as good as those teams either. They have a great defensive line, not so great linebackers, and a decent secondary.
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But I don’t think there is a better front four in the NFL than what they have in Detroit. They can usually afford to drop extra help in the secondary on pass plays.
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We need to go after the Lions safeties.
Neither of the two can deal with Davis and Walker by themselves.
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Good weak for that infamous seam route we haven't seen much yet.
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I like Delmas a lot
But I agree. The seam was the only thing Alex could really do with any consistency before Harbaugh. The TD pass to Walker was a similar design so he can clearly still make the throw.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 11, 2011 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions
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Detroit just too let you know here comes the pain! GO 9ERS YOUR FANS GOT YOUR BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the perfect test
First of all, I don’t buy the whole “their 5 wins aren’t that impressive” charade. This is the NFL in 2011 and 5-0 is damn impressive, I don’t care who you’ve played. There’s a reason teams are squeaking out wins all over the place: this is the best professional sports league IN THE WORLD in terms of parity. Everyone here keeps complaining about the Niners not getting any respect. So give the Lions the respect they’ve earned with their best start in recent (even distant!) memory.
Secondly, in terms of the actual game, we are going in to what should be a rocking Ford Field against a team that has a serious pass rush and the league’s best WR. Our offensive line just had it’s first solid game and the last elite WR we faced tore us a new one. I can’t think of a team in the league I would rather play right now.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 11, 2011 12:56 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I saw two flawed teams fight it out...
With the Lions only breaking it open at the end with a couple big runs at very opportune times. And even then, the Lions can thanks Martz as he doesn’t have “max protect” in his vocabulary and looked like he was trying to get his QB killed.
I think the Niners have a very good chance of taking this one. Should be a good game, and a good fight for a bit, but I see the Niners pulling away by the thrid quarter if our O-Line plays strong…
The Lions are as flawed as the 49ers....
first of all: We play Larry Fitzgerald twice a year, we shut him down, shut down the Cardinals Average rush attack, play turnover free on offense, and beat them easily. The LIONS arent much different, all we need to do is stop Megatron, the run D will hold up, force Stafford to throw it to somebody not 6-5 with a vertical of a Giraffe and see how he holds up. The key will be stopping Pettigrew who is the one who actually moves the chains, outside of that they have no playmakers on offense, and their defense is just SUH and their safety Delmas. The lions have small LB’s who from what i saw cant stop the run, their Dline is good on the interior but not the outside. Who do they have that can guard Vernon, Crabtree, stop Gore, Hunter, who’s the 5th defender that will stay with Walker? At least we know how to stop the Lions, i dont even know how to stop the 49ers, we can run, pass, special teams, and play Defense, and have a great kicker and punter. If Dashon helps Rogers over the top we should be okay, and lets not forget Matt “Glass Shoulder” Stafford, P Willis, Bowman, Brooks, J. Smith, and Aldon Smith are comin for ya!
Their defense is penalty prone..
We would of capitalized big time in the first quarter of their D’s penalalties… Matt Stafford is playing pretty good but I saw a lot of innaccurate throws and horrible scrambling. Plus he’s one hit one from being sidelined if you ask me.. I say we go crazy with Navarro Bowman blitzes.. Half of there offense was the run game and we all know that they can’t do that to us.. Matt had a couple hundred yards of passing that’s not enough to beat us.. Shit Philly had like 500.. Our defense will bend but not break as usual.. I see the lions getting a lot field goals Sunday I’d you ask me.. Alex just needs to get the ball out quick and Thunder and lighting will tAke care if the rest.. They have no one that can cover VD.. NO ONE!!! They will be one dimensional because they can run he football and we will win the turnover game as usual.. Our special teams is better.. And our offense is banging right now.. Carlos and Dashon will contain Calvin game Johnson for most of the game.. GAME OVER 49ers 24-20
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