T.J. Houshmandzadeh Coming In For Workout With 49ers
Fooch's Note: According to Barrows, Dominique Zeigler will NOT be brought in for a workout.
The 49ers have begun their search process for a wide receiver to replace Joshua Morgan as Matt Maiocco is reporting the team will bring in former Bengals, Ravens and Seahawks wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh for a workout today (Tuesday). Morgan will miss an extended period of time that may or may not end his season and the team is currently at three healthy wide receivers with Braylon Edwards expected back after the bye.
I'm not surprised the team is working out Houshmandzadeh in the sense that they have said they will look high and low for the best options to improve the roster in any instance. However, I would be a little surprised if the team signed a receiver like Houshmandzadeh because my thought on this is that the team is looking for a guy who can play some special teams.
My thought process could be entirely wrong however if they are not psyched about Ted Ginn and/or Kyle Williams moving up on the depth chart. If they bring in a guy like Houshmandzadeh, it would strike me as more of an indictment of one of those two. Well, that is unless Housh is ready to be a special teams demon. In that case, go to town.
The team will likely work out some other receivers unless they strike a chord with Housh right off the bat. They have two receivers on the practice squad (Joe Hastings and John Matthews) who will get a chance as well. I will say that one upside to adding Houshmandzadeh? My plans to re-play this commercial over and over:
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I am not impressed by Housh. He only looked good because he played next to Ochocinco.
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I'm pretty sure anyone who would be impressive is on a team right now.
We’re not looking for impressive, we’re looking for best available. I like that the Niners are looking at Housh, he may end up being a contributor on offense rather than just special teams.
I’d rather that the Niners start Ginn or Williams, or sign a practice squad guy. Housh just isn’t a good receiver.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 11, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Never hurts to have a guy like him on the sideline in case of another WR injury.
I’d take Housh over TO and Moss in a second. But that’s just me.
I don’t think he’ll get major playing time. But it would be a nice security blanket.
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I want to see more Kyle Williams
That is all.
by whistlingmountain on Oct 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Me too
Why don’t/won’t we?
Justin Smith is something else. 100% Effort! 100% Class!
"I was just running toward the ball," Smith said. "The guys in front of him were making him slow up a little bit. I just went for the ball and, luckily, it was there."
hand also raised here
so that’s 5 votes of confidence for Kyle, any1 else?
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 12:22 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Im in on that aswell
Williams has better hands than Ginn and he has the ability to make people miss once he catches the ball. Plus he is a real stand up guy I am a big fan on and off the field.
by San Fran Niners on Oct 11, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Shouldn't even have to say so...
Hope he absolutely blows up this week against a Lions secondary that is not all that great.
by 9thevolution on Oct 11, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Find! I thought he was playing with another team
He can catch the ball and move the chains; Let’s give him a chance. Plus I am sure he wants some type of revenge against the Seahawks lol
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My thoughts exactly!
Not a game changer but can produce in our offense. A moving the chains reciever is what we need.
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by bbasher103090 on Oct 11, 2011 9:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Unfortunately I think yes. Just when he seemed to be playing his best football as a Niner. Dang.
Justin Smith is something else. 100% Effort! 100% Class!
"I was just running toward the ball," Smith said. "The guys in front of him were making him slow up a little bit. I just went for the ball and, luckily, it was there."
It just sucks...
that this guy has had to play for all these clueless coaches and OC’s and he was finally getting a chance to show what he could do.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
well after what Harbs said on the Radio this morning
“it doesn’t look like a CAREER ending injury” which to me translates to “he’s done for the year”
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
that is just sad, man.
such a humble, hard working guy who was finally emerging. this is a rough, rough game, fellas…
really sad and Harbaugh described it as
“sickening” more than once. Then he proceeded to say he was the best blocking WR on the team. Now I know people are talking about Williams being a good blocker, and he is, but he’s no Morgan.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I kind of like TJ whosyourmama ...
as I recall, he was a tough, across the middle kind of guy at Cinci, with good hands. Surprised he’s out of the game right now, actually. So the question is, what does Harbaugh see as the need here – a one week fill-in until Braylon Edwards is back, or someone to really complement the receiver corps? If it’s about beating Detroit this weekend, don’t you take one of your PS guys because they know the system and if needed they can be called upon to play and execute within the system? If that’s the goal, how much would a guy like TJ actually be able to contribute after two days of practice? Can you plug and play a WR with no knowledge of a system like the ‘Niners? If you sign him, then it seems to me they’re more concerned with replacing Morgan’s experience for the rest of the season than they are with this week’s need. I don’t know….
Blocking WRs, that's really central to this whole new 'niner system...
it was the same at Stanford. you didn’t get on the field as a WR or TE if you couldn’t punch somebody in the mouth. I’m a Bruin fan (insert joke here) but as a football fan I loved watching Harbaugh’s Stanford team. By Harbaugh’s last two years there it actually reminded me of watching old ’niner teams – so fluid, so well executed – fun football to watch. And his WRs and TEs looked like small linemen – big and tough. Braylon and TJ (if they sign him) both fit that mold.
Considering he likely won't play many snaps....
it’s a guy who can come in and make a catch to get some yardage when we need it. Housh is that type of player, so there’s nothing wrong with kicking the tires. He’ll still be #4 and likely not see much time unless another WR gets hurt.
Even If
we get HOUSH he wont make a big impact until after the by it took our team a couple months to get comfortable enough to open up the play book a little. I don’t expect him to come in this week and start on Sunday..no impact on the LIONS game. He would be a good grab for them tough games down the stretch so if either Crabtree or Edwards gets hurt again (which is most likely to happen) we have a solid #2 reciever that knows the play book so we can plug him in and he will perform. Jim is the man and he is thinking long term not short term (Sunday) if we sign HOUSH!!!!!
He may be available for an extreme emergency against Detroit
Then he would have two weeks with the bye to get comfortable with a package.
I say let’s do it. Does this only get done if Morgan is moved to IR you think?
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I agree
the more I think about it, I think it’d be great if they sign him – not so much for this week, but for the remainder of the season. Assuming Edwards and Crabtree are #1 and #2 (or vice versa), to have House and Williams behind them would seem, to me, to be a pretty solid WR core, especially in this system.
One thing I’ve heard several ‘niners say (and I’m sure Harbaugh wishes they would say less) is that it’s actually a simpler system to play from the QB/WR perspective than previous systems. Alex has his primary receiver, his #2 option, a check down, and a hot route, on almost every play. For the most part, they aren’t required to read the D and make complex route adjustments, the WRs just run the pattern. The scheme is based on the QB reading the D and knowing who’s going to be open based on that pre-read. Alex seems to be really good within this system, and every week you can see he’s getting more and more confident about where to go with the ball. Not surprising to me that, as a result, he’s starting to “throw the receiver” open now.
Regardless of Morgan's status...
the team needs another WR. Whether it’s Housh or someone else, there will be another WR added tothe 53 before Sunday; and more than likely, it will happen tomorrow.
by 9thevolution on Oct 11, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Why was Whosyourmama not on anyone's roster?
Interesting that he played for Jim’s brother last year.
because he was a loud mouth
this guy is full of problems im really surprised we are trying him out he was ridiculous at the ravens constantly bitching and moaning about getting the ball more and then at the end of the season in the playoffs drops a easy easy 3rd down catch that would of kept them in the game
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 11, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That's what I thought but I wasn't sure...
I would be a little uneasy about adding a strong personality at this point in the season. Everybody is all in right now and they don’t need any distractions. Maybe he’s been humbled a bit by sitting on the scrap heap for a few months.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
indifferent
The dude can block. He would be a help down the road this season, but his time in winding down. I think we should sign someone from PS and build a good, young receiving corps.
Our PS receivers are not exactly great talents....
We need to wait until next year and draft some other players for our WR corp or dip into FA to bolster the roster.
by 9thevolution on Oct 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Big, Fast, good hands WR and a lockdown CB are the 2 biggies for the next draft.
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Damnn; saddened for Joshua Morgan.....
On the other hand still believe in 49ers mantra “Next Man Up” which is Kyle Williams & Ted Ginn, followed by the PS Wr’s. I understand they maybe looking @ TJ, but feel this is just another audition that the showed in the past with Donnie Avery & the Rb’s such as Tyrell Sutton. Harbs & Baalke will “comb” the entire free-agency but in the end will turn to the players “in-house” to fill this position.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 11, 2011 10:11 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Dominique Zeigler
Anyone know why we wouldn’t give Dominique Zeigler a shot? Sorry if I spelled that wrong.
by Frederick Sparks III on Oct 11, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
I'm surprised they aren't brining in Zeigler for a workout
He has some knowledge of the system from camp and knows the team. I guess there’s something they saw in camp that they didn’t like, or something like thar, if they aren’t even taking a look.
by djs9989 on Oct 11, 2011 10:13 AM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Maybe they feel he hasn’t fully recovered from his ACL injury or whatever it was last year?
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by Badly Browned on Oct 11, 2011 10:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it's a question of blocking...
I don’t remember anything about Ziggy’s talent as a blocker, but it seems like Housh might suit that role better from a physical standpoint.
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by Young_To_Rice on Oct 11, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That makes sense, didn't think about that
WRs definitely need to be physical and block well in this system, and with Morgan being our best blocking WR that’s even more important for who we bring in
by djs9989 on Oct 11, 2011 11:22 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Don't fret too much guys.
TJ likely won’t see much playing time until he learns the system. Well see more of Williams and Ginn to begin with, and if TJ comes in and starts contributing, great. If not, it will likely only be a 1 year deal and for quite cheap.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 11, 2011 10:17 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Ginn is much improved from last year....
I believe this to be a direct function of coaching…My biggest concerns with Ginn on O are ball security and obviously fumbles…notice I didnt mention dropped balls (like last year)
Attitude or Not
Jim has this team believing in his system, he will not bring someone in from the outside if he doesnt think that he wouldnt fit in. If HOUSH comes aboard he will contribute in the future but right now I’m more concerned about stopping MEGATRON b/c that is their entire offense. If we get our hands on him at the line we could slow him down enough to send help over the top. I think it’s up to the FAB 7 (front 7) again to put the pressure on Stafford before he throws the ball. I mean he had NO PRESSURE last night and threw like shit in the 1st quarter.
Pettigrew
They will look to him a lot also. We need to take down Stafford, covering will not help as much as making bad throws and happy feet. What are the odds that we have lion fans saying they will run on us?
we just stopped Blount ice cold in his tracks and that was w/out Soap; Best isn’t going to run anywhere but backwards against us…
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 12:30 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Best is incredibly dynamic...
one guy moves out of his gap and that’s an 88 yard TD, as evidenced on Monday night.
by 9thevolution on Oct 11, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you catch the three factual errors in PFT's report?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/11/houshmandzadeh-gets-a-look-see-in-san-fran/
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"Ankle" instead of "lower leg"
“SDSU” instead of “USD”.
I would contend that the use of “San Fran” is also egregious.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Joe Hastings
went to Washburn
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Didn't mention which Harbaugh
Jim, John, Jack? Maybe Clarence Harbaugh. If we are to assume its Jim Harbaugh why do we have to say its T.J.? Are we to mistake him for Mitch Houshmandzadeh?
Of all the possible FAs, I have the least problem with trying out TJ Who'sYourMomma
Unlike a couple other big name also-rans (who shall go unnamed), I don’t believe TJ has a reputation for being a cancer on his team. He just seems to be past his prime.
If we pick him up cheap solely as insurance, AND more importantly bump up Ginn or Mike Williams, I’m ok with it.
Didn't realize Mike Williams plays for us???
You meant Kyle Williams
by 9thevolution on Oct 11, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Lock it up! Championship!
…never gets old and someone always dusts it off for our fantasy drafts.
It will suck if Joshua will be out long, but we do need to bring in a fourth. Who knows though, I doubt Harbaugh would bring anyone that would disrupt the chemistry of the team, maybe Housh just needs a shot of humility.
At the start of the season, I envisioned Braylon and Crabtree as our starters with Morgan in the slot, but then again how often do we run 3 wr sets?
I am with those that want to see more of K. Williams as a receiver. Let Ginn take care of special teams and lets see what Kyle can do.
As for the Lions, the front four is talented that is for sure. Granted the only time I saw a full game was last night.
I think our o-line can do better than the Bears. In a Martz system, the QB is nothing more than a pinata that can throw 50+ yards.
Tori Gurley!!!!
I hope they pull this guy off Green Bay’s practice squad. He’s young and full of potential. I think he could bring immediate special teams value, then provide blocking value as a WR in the intermediate term, and ultimate become a good weapon by the end of the season.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/44089/tori-gurley-the-value-of-a-blocked-punt
There are a few other Practice Squad candidates out there as well. I’m pretty sure the rule is we can sign someone off another teams to PS to our 53-man roster but the player would need to clear waivers first. I’m not sure if it’s considered poor form and frowned up though to raid another teams PS.
Section 2. Signing With Other Clubs:
Answer to my own question…
* (a) Any player under contract to a Club as a Practice Squad player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any Club’s Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a Practice Squad player while under contract as a Practice Squad player.
For those who are wondering why TJ is not on a team right now,
it’s because he’s super old and was responsible for the drop that ended the Raven’s post season run last year. He did not contribute for the Ravens and he will not contribute for the 49ers.
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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 11, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
Not going to get too worked up about this
We’ll see a lot more of Ginn and Williams next week because TJ won’t be very comfortable in the system yet. Plus we get Braylon back after the bye which would push TJ even farther away from playing time.
Put him on the board
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by mountaindew77 on Oct 11, 2011 12:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
if TJ can block, I guess it couldn’t hurt to give him a shot. 10-day contracts & if he pans out, for the remainder of the season
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 12:38 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Someone mentioned Matt Jones in an earlier thread...lock him up!!!
Not.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 11, 2011 12:46 PM PDT reply actions
HAHAHA
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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 11, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
I thought I heard he got out recently but I don’t care enough about him to look it up.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 12, 2011 2:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the idea of Tori Gurley, isn’t he like 6’ 4" & 240lbs ? Bet he can block & you could just through the ball up and he’ll go get it.
by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Oct 11, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions
Is it too late for Niners to trade for a WR with another team?
I mean, is there a trade deadline and if so did it come and go already?
I dont know if this has been mentioned before but
We should sign lebron
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TJ Houshmandzadeh is terrible
surely we can do better than this. I’d rather have a guy that has some speed.
Come on peeps....
TJ played for John Harbaugh last year, im pretty sure if John had anything to say about TJ (good or bad) he will tell his own brother!!!! Patience, Trust
by Frisco_Kid on Oct 11, 2011 3:08 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Really? When is the last time Who'syourmomma was relevant?
2008?
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Doesn't really matter I guess anyway.
Kyle Williams and Ted Ginn Jr. with share time… we only use 2 WR’s at most times anyway. Anyone else brought in will just be an emergency WR that has NFL experience.
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