49ers Sign Former Packers WR Brett Swain
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 3:48 PM PDT
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PrintThe 49ers have reportedly made their roster move to replace WR Joshua Morgan for the short term. While the 49ers have not yet made it official, reports indicate they are going to sign wide receiver Brett Swain this week. Swain was a member of the Super Bowl winning Packers this past year but was cut by the team in their final roster cuts. The 49ers brought in several players for workouts, including T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chris Chambers, but settled on Swain.
This signing makes sense in the context of the team's needs. brett Swain led the Packers in special teams tackles in last year's Super Bowl and I would imagine he will see a fair amount of special teams play in the coming weeks. The team will move Ted Ginn Jr. and Kyle Williams further up the depth chart rather than try and jam in somebody else opposite Michael Crabtree.
The 49ers will need to make a roster move to make space and my guess is Colin Jones likely gets waived and sent back to the practice squad (if he clears waivers). The team could place Morgan on injured reserve still, which would also clear up a roster move. Once the 49ers make it official, we'll know more about the corresponding roster move.
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keep Norris as a backup?
Although, I can’t see Norris playing special teams, so why do they keep him on the roster?
Don't think you can cut an injured player - can you??
Re: Joshua’s roster spot – does the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) option go out the window once regular season starts? Thinking maybe so since nobodies brought it up. Just a thought!
ps: we’re gonna beat the Lions – it may get a little close for a minute, but it will be decisive in the end. Mark it down. (Watched most of their tussle with the Bears. Cannot see how in the world they have the record they do.)
Depending on how Ginn and Williams do, assuming they cover well for him, he will probably go on IR.
He’ll be a free agent next season though, so it’s sort of a tricky deal.
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Norris
I’m honestly not sure what they’re going to do with Norris at this point. Makes sense to cut him, but they’re hanging on to him for now.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
what for? we don’t need 2 FB’s on our roster. Norris is otherwise eating up valuable space, which I guess is nothing new…all considering. Still..,
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 4:22 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Two words...
Trade bait. As more teams try to install a power run game, decent FB’s are a premium. Moran might not remind anyone of Mike Alstott, but he’s better than Ahmad Hall from TN. In the right system, a team might think he’d be a great addition. Especially one that needs a vet FB with a middling contract. For the Niners it’s win/win as 1) we lossen up another roster spot for a player we need. 2) depending on what we ask for in return, there’s no telling what trading Moran might bring our way. Trade deadline is next week. Phones are open.
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Quick!
Send out the Email stating he’s available!
Perhaps we can get a 7th round pick in 2015!
Seriously though.. Anything we could get for him would be an unexpected bonus but I would faint if they actually did it.
No… We have Norris for life.
2015 might be a little soon
2035 and I think you could get a deal
If the niners release Norris...
He will be done in the NFL. Can’t catch, whiff as a lead blocker, and adds 0 to special team. A total waste of space.
by wtlichens on Oct 11, 2011 8:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
nobody is going to trade for a fullback. We would get another 2013 7th round pick.
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
Do you really think ...
that they feel safe enough having Miller as their only option at FB? Trust me I love “Miller Time!” but we don’t have a full TE corps (most importantly Byham) to back him up if he hits some rookie rough roads. Just thinking that may be the mindset going on as far as Norris.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Oct 11, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if we still had Byham , Norris wouldn't be here ...even thou he wasn't a Fb , he was a Hb and it wouldn't be a huge transition to the back up Fb ...!!
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Actually...
Miller didn’t play a whole lot against Tampa Bay. They put Walker in motion for most of the traditional FB blocking assignments on the running plays. Walker has done an amazing job all the way around this season. He’s a very good blocker especially on the sweeps. Peele has taken up the traditional ‘blocking TE’ role blocking on the line and has done a really good job to date.
miller was lead blocking 40 yards downfield on Hunters 44 yard run.
And catches the ball. Norris whiffs on blocks and cannot catch. No brainer here.
by wtlichens on Oct 11, 2011 8:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like to imagine what was going on in Miller’s head, as him fighting the defensive urges to tackle the RB. So something a little like this
“oo look he has the ball! Tackle him! Wait Don’t tackle!…Maybe a little trip..No, don’t touch him, protect him! Oooo, there’s a guy in white! I can hit him! Coach told me so!!!”
As a geologist, I talk to rocks. And they talk back, and they are telling me, "This year the San Fransisco 49ers are going to be some Gneiss Schist!"
CB9er, if we were to waive Norris, I can almost guarantee that no other team picks him up...
If, God forbid, something should happen to Miller, we could then bring Norris back…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Possibly chemistry?
I know pretty much all Niners fans are ready to be done with Norris but the players seem to like him (especially Gore). The chemistry on the team appears to be really good right now, maybe the team doesn’t want to risk messing with that by cutting a veteran while he’s injured to make room for a stop gap replacement.
But personally I wouldn’t mind letting Norris go and making Miller’s ascension official.
roster spot for a mascot?
why don’t we sign rudy?
You hit it
Frank LOVES this guy and he’s a locker room parent. Guys look up to him. He works his butt off and you need “glue guys” like him to round out a team. Also, when the time comes and you need a battering ram for one yard he’s no where near as bad as his been made out to be. Against a team like Detroit with that front – he will likely play a big role.
I wonder how info Swain can give the coaches on the Lions
probably not alot but every little bit help
I expect Crabtree to have a big game
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
a familiar refrain...
would like to see it come to fruition one of these days…
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was kind of expecting it against TB to be honest.
He does well on those high throws Alex keeps tossing to him, but otherwise, he doesn’t seem to be making a splash.
His blocking has been great though, so it’s not like he’s a waste of space.
no... he has his place...
I just think Crabs is destined to be a really good number 2. He’s Anquan… Braylon can hopefully be our Larry… He’s more Steve Smith than he is Hakeem Nicks… Am I making sense? I just don’t think he has the kind of ability that scares a defense… But force a lesser corner to cover him, and then he can make some scary stuff happen.
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He shouldve scored 2 TD
but one time he got tackled and another the CB pulled down his Left arm so he couldn’t grab that high pass.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
From what we've seen so far I'd have to agree
He looks like he’s got some good moves in the open field, but he seems to be lacking the explosiveness to get there consistently. And it’s not like he’s so big and strong that he can consistently outmuscle defenders in the open field and in fights for the ball. Crabtree looks like a solid player, but honestly I was more excited about Morgan prior to the injury.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 11, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s all a long way of saying I think one thing the team really could use is a true No. 1 weapon at WR. Maybe Braylon can fill that role this year when he comes back, but receiver could very well be addressed early and often in the draft/FA this year.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 11, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Harbaugh will want to take find his own guy
As of now I see our first two rounds next year being some form of DB/WR.
I really don’t think Braylon is the answer; he’s had one good year.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 12, 2011 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions
The lack of explosiveness may be a result of never being full-strength for an extended period
If the foot ever heals 100% (this off-season perhaps) and he can train with as much intensity and volume as he wants, maybe he’ll gain a little more explosion off the line than we have seen so far
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 11, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm, I really don't know much about Swain
I guess he’s got three years experience in a west coast offense so that could help. The Packers are pretty stacked at receiver so failing to hang on to his roster spot isn’t too big a black mark for Swain. Just goes to show, when you’re sifting through the mess of street free agents you’re probably not going to find anything too exciting.
Just checked his stats (what there is of them)
Although he has appeared in 22 games he has only caught 6 balls for 72 yds.. So who knows what he can contribute. My guess is that he will set back on the depth chart a 2 or 3 wks and see how Edwards comes along after his injury. Like most of you I don’t expect to see much of Swain, but who knows this year has been full of surprises mostly good.
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 11, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He is just a body at the end of the day...
the guys who already with the team move up… they will see the snaps in the game. I’m excited to see more of Kyle Williams.
Yeah...
I think with Williams it is just a matter of utilization… and with Alex’s affinity for short passes, Kyle should be perfect for quick slants and crossing patterns…
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Then, Kyle is ahead of Ginn on the chart…or no?
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 4:19 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Not officially
Ginn is listed as the starter opposite Crabtree. That’s not a guarantee that playing time will shake out that way come Sunday, but as of right now Ginn is ahead of Williams.
well, as long as Kyle gets his mix of the reps…
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 4:45 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
The more the time Kyle has on the field the more I think you will see Coach Harbaugh & Coach Roman utilize him properly
I have really noticed how well they have taken the players we have on this team and adapt the offense to exploits their strengths and Kyle is no different. They will take his skills and make this offense more versatile
Kyle Williams could be
the next Wes Welker but faster!!!
by Frisco_Kid on Oct 11, 2011 5:10 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Me too
and we will according to a post from Matt Maiocco sharing that the Niners never put 4 WR’s on the field at the same time (they go 4 wide by using D Walker in the slot) so we should see lots of all three: Crab, Kyle and Ginn because Swain won’t be used as a reciever. Swain is known to be a Special Team Head Hunter.
I like the 3 WR sets
and using Walker or VD in the slot when we spread the D out. Actually prefer that to having 4 WRs because a TE lined up as a WR creates huge mismatches.
For sure
Maybe put Crabs and VD outside on a play and Kyle Williams in the slot with D walker in as a TE I think that would be pretty legit!
by Dilon on Oct 11, 2011 4:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Was it ever stated how long Morgan will be out , dang hate to think of him on I.R. ...!!
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Bring in a guy on a SB winning team = smart.
Especially in understanding what they are doing. Good idea.
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Plus they are not bring in a Wideout who is way past his prime and trying to hold on to whatever he has left
They are bring in a young player who is hungry to get on the field (his play on special teams prove that fact).
Plus he has 3 years of experience in the WCO
Plus, I'm assuming he's a good, positive guy in the locker room, on the practice field and sideline...
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Offensive version of Clay Matthews perhaps?
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Going to have to learn like Scott Tolzien....
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 11, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
People seem to love Kyle Williams around here...
my question is why?
Besides the really nice TD catch earlier this year, nothing about this guy has stood out for me. I’m not saying he sucks or anything but everyone seems unusually high on him around here. I watch quite a bit of Pac-10 football and he wasn’t even a guy that I remember hearing/seeing in college.
Is this Thomas Clayton syndrome?
Dunno , your going to have to ask the entire S.F. coaching staff ...!!
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Well he wasn't drafted by this coaching staff and didn't play much under the former staff...
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Played against them though... and they saw enough in him to keep him obviously
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athletic ability...
and a type of offensive threat that many nfl teams utilize well, that the niners have lacked for a while now. Smaller, with speed and agility, able to work underneath and create mismatches that no one else on the team can. It is about potential… not much else.
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
been reading a lot of comments about ky, and i think you really hit the nail with this one. What I like about bringing in ky is that he simply provides something different. You mentioned his size and speed. Anyone as small and fast as ky will surely get separation on a regular basis, and this is something that can help Alex.
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Oct 11, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont think anyone is saying this guy is gonna hit it big and become an overnight superstar
but we see that there is a potential for him to bring alot of versatility to the offense and gives us a different kind of receiver that really works well in the WCO
I am saying that he will be.
He has his shot now… he has not missed any opportunity and he now has a chance to shine.
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Like you said he has his shot now
I really think he and Alex could have a really good connection going especially if he is as sure handed and he seems to be. Alex could definitely give him alot of love especially on 3rd downs
I'm thinking he can be just as, of not more, effective than Morgan.
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Were you M.I.A in preseason?
Have you not watched his highlights from college?
He has Desean Jackson type potential. And he’ll get there under Harbaugh. they guy does not miss a pass.
Several people here went to the mini-camps and had nothing but great things to say about him. He runs a 4.3 and clean routes… can rack up the YAC… what more do you want?
Sit back, grab your popcorn and watch a start be born over these next few weeks.
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I didn’t mention that he has impeccable hands.
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Looking forward to it...
Damn, the Kyle Williams fan club is not to be messed with.
I watch every game including preseason and a ton of Pac-10(12). Thanks for asking.
A)He was a 6th round pick for a reason.
B)Anthony Dixon destroyed preseason once upon a time.
C)I hope he surprises the heck out of me.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I watch every game including preseason and a ton of Pac-10(12). Thanks for asking.
If you truly do this, I am thoroughly confused on how you missed Kyle Williams. I live in AZ and watch every ASU game… I’ve know about him for a while now.
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I DON'T live in Arizona so there you go
I’m not saying I watch EVERY game but I know a lot more about a guy like say, Juron Criner for instance than I do Williams. I’m no expert but I was just curious as to what I, according to the vast majority here, clearly missed.
Like I said, I’m looking forward to seeing more of this guy if he has as much potential as a lot of you say.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I live in Tucson (Captain obvious)
and I think Criner would be a good pickup in the draft next year. He’s the only offense on the UA team this year.
by NinerFanTucson on Oct 11, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The kwfc (kyle william's fan club) goes HARD around here lol
I don’t consider myself much of a scout so I don’t really have my own opinion on him just yet, but there’s people around here who are reallll big on him
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 11, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It could also be chalked up to...
Dennis Erickson fatigue.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't help.
But he seems to have them balling this year. Of course Brock Osweiler is a mad man.
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Josh Morgan was a 6th round draft pick too
teams find late round gems all the time
by Andrew9erfan on Oct 11, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Williams was really overlooked. I think he should have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
I think he has been in his pro career too. I am hoping he makes enough plays in the next few games (and gets a chance to) to open every ones eyes clearly to his potential.
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Just like Kendal Hunter was overlooked because of his size
probably should have been a second or 3rd round pick
by Andrew9erfan on Oct 11, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh Morgan is a nice player
and it looked like he was improving. I don’t know if I would call him a “gem”.
Terrel Davis and Tom Brady in the 6th are “gems”.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno. I’d used gem for any 6th round pick who becomes a solid starter. Not sure how I would describe Brady or Davis … maybe finding sunken treasure.
Well
He is fast… 4.43 40 time
Has really good hands
Is smart
Works super hard in camp
Has a good rapport with Alex
Had a good preseason
and took advantage of the opertunity he was given in week 2 with a TD.
It isn’t like he is Dez Bryant coming out of college, but the dude has the potential to be a diamond in the ruff.
He wasn't on your radar because ASU was not on the radar and hasn't been for years.
Same reason Ryan Torian came in a year ago and shocked some people with his ability.
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They're finally ranked and their players are getting some love now.
Burfict is probably going to be a top 10 pick.
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Burfict is an animal
Dare I say Patrick Willis-like.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
that dude looks legit
I’d like to see him get drafted by a blue collar defense…Cleveland or Cincy or Buffalo come to mind, and watch the team build around him.
no way :)
no love for philly.
but they could use him for sure.
They could be picking top ten if that melt down continues on.
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They are in deep...
the blue print for beating Philly is set… pound them with the run. There isn’t a thing they can do to fix it. They simply don’t have the linebacker to stop it from happening week in and week out.
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Reid's probably going to get axed after the season.
I never thought that would happen.
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his arrogance...
has just finally caught up with him… he has always treated the linebacker position as though it is just unimportant…
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He should have just hired a D-Coord with experience, instead of his Oline coach who never called a play before or coached defense in the last 20 years..
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. It made no sense. Of course, had it worked out, he would’ve looked like a genius and everyone would be saying, “That Andy Reid is the best coach evar!!”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HzSB804F_Q
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That was a NASTY stop and cut
On the first highlight
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 11, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Great hands, he's fast and has a mean streak.
"We just feel more certain assurance of success when all that's written is written against us. When honey words of praise are flowered upon us that we begin to feel exposed before our enemies." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Familiarity
Harb’s had this guy at the collegiate level, too. Swain played at SD State as a starting WR.
He’ll be patient and work hard to get on the field in any capacity, and he’ll trust his coaches plan for him.
Good pick up….not flashy….but a solid role player.
really... didn't know he played for Harbs in college.
by Sigelvictory on Oct 11, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
actually .... he didn't
SD State for Swain….Univ of SD for Harbaugh. my bad.
People keep messing that up
Also, I’ve heard that Harbaugh won a national championship at the 1-AA level. That didn’t happen.
by AptosNinerFan on Oct 11, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite... it's rumored though that he's going to hang glide there instead.
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Yup .they're finally getting around to ( buying ) ...!!
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I just dont want the players to buy into their own hype
I have all the faith in the world that Coach Harbaugh and along with Coach Fangio & Roman wont let that happen
Nope , the only thing the players are buying is ( Harbaugh ) ...!!
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They seem relatively humble up to this point (even after smashing the Bucs)
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I like this strategy over kicking the tires on an aged vet
Recently teams have been able to find a gem or two cycling through the unknown free agent list.
Sounds like our nasty special teams just got a little nastier.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
Assuming they don't send Jones back to the PS.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 11, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I never understood why we let Rojo go..
We wasted a 6th round pick if we were just going to release him..at least try him as a flex player..maybe give him the role of RB/WR as a change of pace guy.
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but one thing is for sure though he was horrible in the preseason..
dropped passes and he seemed lost most of the time.
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Maybe the WR the Niners need...LeBron James
Supposedly toying with playing in the NFL during the lockout: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8230be24/article/james-uses-social-media-to-glean-info-on-nfl-league-calendar?module=HP11_headline_stack
That would be seriously cool. Too bad there’s no way it happens. If you’re him, why risk that your NBA career could be ended by one big hit where his leg gets caught or something? Just no way do you even consider it if you’re him.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 11, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
His raw athletic ability would make him a nasty T.E.
However…his mental make-up might not be there for the NFL
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 11, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
OH NO! not again..
More talk about Brett… Oh wait, the other one… The wide receiver….Whew, thank goodness…
Kyle Willaims
Im NOT saying the guy is super great cuz you never know til they play in a nfl but looking at his college highlights he kinda reminds me of the panthers steve smith lol again not saying his is steve smith or will be a star just that his talents seem to be in that mold if that makes sense?
I can get down with this move
I’d actually like to see Teddy get some more looks on play action if our line can hold up like they did the last 6 quarters. The running game is now a threat and could really open up the back end for some big plays from Ginn. The test will be Suh. Go niners!!
lots of upside
Swain comes from a winning organization, good special teams player, and knows the WCO.. With him being the 5th or 6th man in a very talented receiving corps like the Packers, I’m pretty sure he went up against the ones in defense practices such as Charles Woodson, Sam Shields, etc. The guy has a lot of potential for the future of 49ers.
I posted this news first
I posted the news about signing Brett Swain first on ninernsation.com and someone obviously deleted me post. Thanks a lot to the selfish and prideful ones who run this site. You know who you are.
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