NFL Power Rankings, Week 6: Mock Me If You Must
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 5:01 PM PDT
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PrintLast week as we were discussing some of the various NFL power rankings around the web, I posted some of my own power rankings, put together for SB Nation Bay Area. I had the 49ers ranked No. 16 as the lowest ranked 3-1 team in the league. That was based in part on my concerns about some of the team's weaknesses following some close victories, and also based on some of the wins around them.
Well, a week later, I've rectified the ranking to some extent. In my latest NFL power rankings, I bumped the 49ers up from No. 16 to No. 10 (you can view the top ten after the jump). I kept the Raiders and Redskins ahead of the 49ers even though you could make a reasonable argument that the 49ers probably belong ahead of them.
I'm actually really high on this particular Raiders team and I also like what Washington is putting together. Part of the reason they remain ahead of the 49ers is they were ahead of them last week and I felt they did enough to stay there. Well, Oakland did enough with their road win and Washington has done enough that I didn't want to drop them below for now. If the 49ers beat the Lions this coming Sunday, though, there's no doubt the 49ers will get another solid bump no matter how the other teams ahead of them perform. If the 49ers beat Detroit on the road and Oakland beats Cleveland, the 49ers move ahead of Oakland. Pretty plain and simple.
The 49ers in general are getting more respect in the media, even if it doesn't translate to extensive highlights. ESPN bumped them seven spots to No. 9. CBS Sports increased them three spots to No. 13. SB Nation's NFL Power Rankings have them at No. 8. I could go on and on, but you get the point. People are starting to recognize the 49ers are not a fluke.
Fooch's SB Nation Bay Area NFL Power Rankings
1. (1) Green Bay Packers (5-0)
2. (2) Detroit Lions (5-0)
3. (3) New England Patriots (4-1)
4. (4) New Orleans Saints (4-1)
5. (5) Buffalo Bills (4-1)
6. (7) Baltimore Ravens (3-1)
7. (10) San Diego Chargers (4-1)
8. (11) Oakland Raiders (3-2)
9. (12) Washington Redskins (3-1)
10. (16) San Francisco 49ers (4-1)
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how are the raiders higher...
i get that was an emotional win. and they are feeling good. but the niners just dismantled the bucs. raiders won with heart, niners won with skill
Raiders
Big win on the road. Struggled in the Pats loss but I still really like them…I probably am overrating them a little bit, but I like them.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
like the Niners, the Raiders have been down for a while
No reason not to show them a little love with what may be a slight over-rating on the power ranking.
I look forward to the days of the Niners being consistently in the top 3 in the rankings, but until then the only thing that really matters is winning and improving. The rest will come with time. Once we stack up enough wins, others will not be able to ignore us.
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 12, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Here comes the delusion. 10 is a good place for them, maybe a little lower
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 11, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
Like how a lot of people on here (see: most) are pretty delusional about everything, especially this week’s game thread when many people agreed that they wouldn’t trade Alex Smith for any QB in the league besides the big 4.
I mainly say it because then when I’m less optimistic than the sheer delusion, I get called a troll who’s a bad fan
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 11, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No, you don't.
We only say that because you can NEVER seem to find anything good to say about the Niners. Ever. Following a great win, you can’t celebrate it because you start talking about how bad you think we will get beat next week by whoever we play. I don’t remember very many times when you say anything positive about our team. Which is baffling to most people.
There is a difference between being pessimistic and being a hater. Even in that comment, you had to throw a jab and make it clear you don’t like Alex. We know. Like I said, anything except a 55 point Super Bowl blowout, and I’m willing to bet you will have lots of “less optimisitc” things to say. You act like you don’t and can’t see a difference in this year’s team to last.
Contrary to what you think, it IS okay to give credit, props, and compliments to the team you cheer for. Especially when they have clearly EARNED it. Even Alex.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
For some
They would find excuses even in a 55 point Super Bowl blowout…
“The other team tanked”
“The other team was ravaged with injuries”
“Alex had a fluke day”
and so on.
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 12, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Clutchtree, I know you like to be the voice of reason, but 10 is a low estimate for how the Niners are doing right now.
They really should be around 5, and I think Fooch is just hedging here a little bit because he’s avoiding being a homer.
so he is being the anti-homer?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Yes
Plus he’s a former closet Raider fan. Seems to be out now. He raised the Redskins 3 places during their bye week and put them in front of us. Go figure.
closet Raiders fans?
Actually not a closet Raiders fan. I like the team they put on the field but not a Raiders fan. As for the Redskins moving up, teams around them lost which dropped those teams and helped bump up the Redskins without playing.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Tongue in cheek
This whole power ranking thing is a tad silly so we may as well have a little fun with it.
Btw, I meant no disrespect when I said you were hedging.
I think it’s very reasonable to be cautious about the Niners play, especially when they’ve only been elite one game, and Tampa was obviously totally unprepared for what Harbaugh had in store for them. The Lions may be more prepared, especially after seeing what a functional Niners team looks like and the playcalling involved.
I still think the Niners are better than 10, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable ranking. What I think is weird is putting the Lions at #2. I personally think they should barely be in the top ten.
Lions
No offense taken.
I think I am hedging a bit with the 49ers but more willing to buy into other teams like the Lions and Raiders since I don’t have the same attachments. If I don’t overrate the 49ers they can’t destroy me quite as much with a loss.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How does a 5-0 team not belong in the top 10??
Honestly most 49ers fans I’ve read on here are pretty down to earth on their team, other teams, and expectations. I’ve read your posts and they’re garbage.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 11, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
easy there.
Power rankings are all opinions. No need to call somebody else’s comments garbage.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry for the swearing man. lol
Our blog is more relaxed on that policy. Common Detroit mentality I suppose. In regards to his post though, if the roles were reversed, I’d definitely put you guys #2. Record means everything this league, and even if I felt maybe you guys were worse than the Saints or NE that doesn’t mean I totally neglect you and put you behind 3-2 4-1 teams outside of the top 10.
You guys do have some great fans though, very knoweldgeable — which leads to good discussion. I’m not taking your team lightly and at 4-1 I’d definitely put you guys top 8 or 7.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 12, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
no worries
I think record means everything over the course of the whole season, but I don’t think putting a 4-1 team behind a 3-2 team right now is exactly crazy talk. Some teams have played weaker teams. Some teams have barely won games. There are a lot of things to consider. At least for me.
by David Fucillo on Oct 12, 2011 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
At this time I see your point
A few more games and I think records will start to justify ranking order. You guys are definitely better than the Raiders though… They’re a running team and you guys stop the run effectively. I was surprised you didn’t put yourself at #8. The Redskins couldn’t even beat a hurt Romo and Dez Bryant.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 12, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
neither could our Niners.
:(
Harbaughcalypse Now
by dutra on Oct 12, 2011 12:30 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
True but they
had Miles Austin didnt they?
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 12, 2011 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I said barely in the top ten, which means I'd rank them around #8 or #9.
They’re 5-0, but hardly dominant. Like I’ve said many times, I think the Lions are a good team, but they’ve had the 5th-easiest schedule in the league, and haven’t looked great doing so except against the hapless Chiefs.
By comparison, the Niners have had the 7th-easiest schedule, and dominated the good-but-not-great Bucs. They’re comparable teams, but in terms of recent performance and relative dominance, which is how I would do my subjective power rankings, I’d rank the Niners a little bit higher than the Lions.
I don’t think that’s a garbage opinion, and I certainly don’t mean any disrespect to the Lions organization. I know the Niners weaknesses, and last year it was almost completely on the coaches. Now that that’s fixed, the Niners have far fewer problems and no gaping holes. At every position, the Niners are average-to-above average. That’s why I’d rank them as a top 10 team with upside. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable assessment.
I would much rather us be lower and prove that we are good on this season-changing upcoming game rather than have us overranked and possibly lose bad then just be an afterthought
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 11, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
NFL, ESPN, and SI have them a spot lower.
You are clearly a bigtime fan.
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Here’s a nice write-up that looks at how the seeds of the current crop was planted paradoxically in 2005 in various places when the team itself was completing its descent into the abyss.
thx for the link
Great article
by redgolddynasty on Oct 11, 2011 6:37 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
you're welcome
The Niners have been gaining attention in national media, maybe not in in ESPN, but among more perceptive analysts.
Didn't the Bills lose to the Bengals?
The team the Niners beat on the road. We’ll see. The Lions are going down this Sunday, although I tend to believe the officials will try and influence the outcome in favor of the new “America’s Team”. Delusional or not, the only team I see as possibly better than the Niners right now is green Bay.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out." - Bill Walsh
yes
But every week crazy things can happen.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
even though on gameday
i believe the refs are influence and/or cheating, i find it hard to rationalize the refs throwing games or at minimum finding ways to ensure one team takes more penalties
Football outsiders came out with new DVOA
we are ranked #2 and #5 with DAVE
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
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More complications to the stats world.
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this is what they said about us
San Francisco: The DVOA system loves big, dominating wins, and the 49ers certainly had one this week. That stomping of Tampa Bay lifts them all the way up from 11th to second. That being said, San Francisco had a pretty good rating even before this win. The 49ers are not going to stumble into the playoffs as an 8-8 champion in a bad division. Based on current opponent adjustments, the 49ers are one of only two teams with positive DVOA in all five games this season (Buffalo being the other; Green Bay’s DVOA in Week 3 was -0.8%). They are one overtime loss away from being undefeated. The 49ers are winning big with defense and special teams, ranking second in both, and have been shockingly efficient in the passing game this year, ranking seventh in pass offense DVOA. No, I don’t think the 49ers are truly better than the Packers, Patriots, or Steelers (and those teams are all higher in DAVE) but we need to be taking them seriously as more than just first-round playoff bait. On the other hand, their DVOA will probably go down as the opponent adjustments get stronger, as they rank 26th in schedule so far and dead last in schedule remaining.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
Follow @manraj76
When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
also
One thing to watch for in the future: Detroit right now is dead last in first-quarter offense, one of the elements in “estimated wins.” Scoring in the first quarter helps you dictate the pace of the whole game, and if the Lions could fix that problem, they wouldn’t be stuck in so many close games right now.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
Follow @manraj76
When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
What is DVOA?
"Our opponents are nameless and faceless" - Jim Harbaugh
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DVOA
Defense-Adjusted Value Over Average.
Here’s the short explanation:
DVOA is a method of evaluating teams, units, or players. It takes every single play during the NFL season and compares each one to a league-average baseline based on situation. DVOA measures not just yardage, but yardage towards a first down: five yards on third-and-4 are worth more than five yards on first-and-10 and much more than five yards on third-and-12. Red zone plays are worth more than other plays. Performance is also adjusted for the quality of the opponent. DVOA is a percentage, so a team with a DVOA of 10.0% is 10 percent better than the average team, and a quarterback with a DVOA of -20.0% is 20 percent worse than the average quarterback. Because DVOA measures scoring, defenses are better when they are negative.
For more, read here.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We are +7.8 -10.0 +12.5 in Offense Defense and ST respectively
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
One thing that surprised me about their blurb on the Niners is that they don't think the 49ers are truly better than Pittsburgh.
I think a lot of teams are better than the Steelers this year, and to say the Niners are not better than them seems a little weird after their database puts them a full 15% higher. NE and GB? I’m okay with that.
Lions the # 2 rated team?
Hey, that view fine with me, and probally the 9ers too. It simply means we slay a bigger giant! (I hope)
Random question
Did anyone ask Harbaugh why Akers made that weird kickoff?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Typically
A “squib kick” is to get the ball in the hands of someone not used to/ expecting to return it. As we saw, it worked out well.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out." - Bill Walsh
well it ended up in the KR hands
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
Follow @manraj76
When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
That's true
But the question was “why” you would kick like that. And it still worked out well as it gave the coverage more time to get there and was caught on a bounce, rather than “on the run”. At least that’s how I remember it.
THE LIONS ARE GOING DOWN!
I think that was the plan
but honestly I have no idea
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
Follow @manraj76
When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Odd, typically the post game Harbough locker room team speech video...
is posted after the game for all us fans to see and enjoy. Where is the Buc’s game winner locker room video?
Maybe Harbough was jumping for joy and/or said something in the video the 9ers did not want us to see?
Maybe they invited Singletary in the locker rm and put Him through the nutcracker drill.
Inquiring 49 fan minds want to know….Where Is That Video?
its all good
never thought we’d be this close to being top ten this early in the season, the list look fine. the only thing this list masks is how suspect the patriots, bills, chargers, and some weeks, the packers, defenses have performed and how their offenses have saved them. time will tell whether it’ll come around and hurt them later on down the stretch.
I like the ranking @ 10...
Doesn’t really matter because after Sunday it’s going to change anyway.. I hope we beat Detroit because I can see us staying in the power ranking in the top 3 if we do for a while.. We can beat the browns, redskins, giants, and cards all in a row with Braylon back and continued improvement in a ll facets of the game.. I mean other than the redskins we are already considered much better than those teams.. Fooch I can’t wait for the injury reports on Detroit and the Niners….
by pigskin slapper on Oct 11, 2011 5:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
AleX getting some love too ...!!
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/nextlevel/alex-smith-samsung-level-player-week
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
i second that, BigMar
he’s playing good football on a consistent basis. never thought i’d say that. i just hope he keeps this up (even when confronted with the rush).
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Oct 12, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
NFLN Showing love too!
Both Daryl Johnston and Charles Davis are “buying” the 49ers and Mike Mayock is totally backing Alex Smith right now. “Never seen him more decisive and more accurate.” (paraphrasing)
NFL, ESPN, and SI all have them at 9th...
Fooch, I am disappointed. I know it’s only one spot difference but you are the front page NN blogger. Were your hands tied on the ranking or something?
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no
One spot? Seriously? The rankings are my own.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
good stat
The 49ers have held the opponent’s No. 1 running back — Marshawn Lynch, Felix Jones, Cedric Benson, LeSean McCoy and LeGarrette Blount — to a combined 174 yards on 58 carries, a meager 3 yards per carry.
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 11, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
just to add
their combined rushing totals on the season is 1,652 yards … nice to see the 49ers numbers on RB’s
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 11, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If it were up to me... my top ten power rankings
1st – Green Bay
2nd – New England
3rd – New Orleans
4th – Detroit
5th – Baltimore
6th – San Francisco
7th – Buffalo
8th – San Diego
9th – Washington
10th – Houston
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I'd put Niners 7th , Chargers 6th and Bills 8th ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Why would you put the Chargers above the Niners?
I’m serious, I think people are way overrating SD this year and they have no business being in the top ten. That division is Oakland’s to lose.
ARE U KIDDDING ME
10th really 10th, 10th don’t make me pull out MORA’s clip (playoff’s) come on I see us at 6th maybe 5th. GB, Pats, Saints, LIONS, Baltimore, San Francisco. Hopefully if our D pressures Stafford will be 3rd on the list next week.
What?!?!?
So ESPN is showing us love and our lead blogger is shooting us down? #WestCoastBias
by Frisco_Kid on Oct 11, 2011 6:08 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
Off topic but are we gonna get a Ask Detroit fan post or anything like that?
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer
by afrikabamboodle on Oct 11, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
they already 6-0 ccording to them
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
by EcERyda69 on Oct 11, 2011 8:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
that’s why we play the games, right? If they underestimate our Niners, so be it. I love it when overconfidence eats humble pie…
by Doni S on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Now where did you see that?
Cause it hasn’t been said.
President of the Eric Wright fan club.
Obligatory statement about being a huge Lions fan.
I have a twitter: Follow Me
Hello everyone and fuck Mark Sanchez count: 40
Niners are better than the Chargers, the Bills, the Redskins and the Raiders
and the Pats, and the Lions, and the Ravens, and the Saints, and the Packers. Okay, maybe not the Packers, but equal with the Packers.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Detroit is running their mouths
Over at their site – I’m actually a little pissed, tbh.
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/10/11/2484565/san-fran-site-bloggers
"Our opponents are nameless and faceless" - Jim Harbaugh
Twitter
Actions speak louder than words
And the Niners will be doing all the ‘talking" Sun. Besides, Lions fans have suffered more than most fans. They had an 0-16 season remember. Let them enjoy themselves. They’ll be forced to recognize soon enough.
THE LIONS ARE GOING DOWN!
I agree. I think it's perfectly fine for Lions fans to be overconfident right now.
They’re feeling the same rush we are, a team that’s been down in the dumps for a while is now a true playoff contender. If it weren’t for the fact that we’re playing them next week, I’d be all for them going 10-0, and I’d be rooting for them against the Pack on Thanksgiving. I love how this team has really turned it around, I think it’s a great story. After we beat them, I’ll be happy to go back to rooting for their team again. I think they do need to get knocked down a peg or two, however, and I think the Niners are the perfect team to do that.
That guy is just dumb....
I love how he spouts off all of these stats like he knows everything, and blah blah blah, but then follows it up with, “well, i’ve never actually seen any of their games” lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Oct 11, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
let them run their mouths; I think they’re actually scared of us after we put a monstrous thumping on Tampa…w/out Braylon and Soap.
In fact, I think the Niners give them the willies…they just won’t admit it
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 8:25 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
He had another stat saying we had 19 passes defensed
Don’t they have the league leading 40 passes defensed.
And comparing Urlacher and Briggs to Willis and Bowman is freaking laughable. Those two wish they were as athletic as Willis and Bowman.
This will be a big test for the Niners but the Lions will be shocked to see how good this defense is.
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
by EcERyda69 on Oct 11, 2011 8:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Love how the guy mentions Morgan
as still being a weapon.
“Hi. I’m the present. Have we met?”
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
by Blank x2 on Oct 11, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eh
At the end he says he hasn’t watch a game, but clearly respects us.
I think it is funny he mentions he’s not sure what we do to stop the run if we pound 8 in the box or what.
Don’t need 8 when you got 52. 27 straight games without a 100 yard rusher isn’t just stuffing 8 in the box.
seen this earlier
It was just like the Nice when they talked crap about Alex.
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
by EcERyda69 on Oct 11, 2011 8:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Bucs not nice
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
by EcERyda69 on Oct 11, 2011 8:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
On the subject of the grass always being greener...
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/10/11/2482902/im-sick-and-tired-of-other-teams-getting-credit
THEY don’t get enough credit????
We really don't and neither do you guys.
We don’t get credit because our team sucked for so long, and if we haven’t played the Saints, GB, or NE people will say "but who have they really played? Playing you guys, if we beat you, people will just revert back to this phrase and discount you guys even more.
You guys don’t get credit because of your opponents as well, past record, and the fact that your division is pure shit (I’m putting that nicely).
Until either team is in double digit wins, or takes down a LEGIT super bowl contender like the three mentioned we won’t get credit. Hell, my team just beat the defending NFC North Champions and we still hear " are the lions for real "
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 11, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
language
No swearing here outside of game threads.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
going 0-16 never helps the public image of a franchise, but it is true; both our clubs have been awful for far too long.
I guess it also helped when Matt Millen got chased out of town…
by Doni S on Oct 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
well, don't be
i saw a lot of hate-comments from buc fans leading up to the game this past sunday. the result was 48-3. i wonder how those fans are feeling now.
let’s just wait and see what happens. my best guess is, the 49ers win because of two reasons: 1) alex is playing good ‘no turnovers’ football, and 2) the 49ers D is the real deal as there run defense is unbelievably good. in fact, i’m not sure which one i find more surprising, number 1 or 2.
GO 49ERS! and GO ALEX!
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter at all where we are ranked
Right now.. because if we lose this weekend we will be like at 13.. If we win will be in the top 5 most def right fooch? I just want to beat Detroit then we don’t have to sell or persuade anyone how good we are.. Smack up those lions at home and its basically niners sharing the spot light with the top 5 till the ravens game.. Where everyone will want to test us again….
by pigskin slapper on Oct 11, 2011 7:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Top 5
Antoinio pierce frm espn has us at #5.
by The real Alex smith on Oct 11, 2011 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
we all know the real reason Fooch didn't put the niners higher
It’s because they aren’t getting Andy Lee involved enough
exactly....
I figured this was obvious.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Fooch
Bills lost to Cincy…we didn’t. How do you figure they’re better than us other than a ‘w’ against NE?
by Doni S on Oct 11, 2011 8:07 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
The whole "beating a team means we're better than them" is a very bad arguement.
By that logic:
JAC > TEN > BAL
and Jacksonville is a superior team to the Ravens.
And here’s a paradox for you:
TEN > BAL
BAL > PIT
PIT > TEN
PIT > TEN > BAL > PIT?
This
is a good point that many people don’t understand, its also the reason Dallas isn’t ranked in front of us.
week to week
Anything can happen in a given week. I think it can be considered but I look at it more as a tiebreaker.
by David Fucillo on Oct 11, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, fine…it’s a wash. But I still think we’re better than Buffalo; Fred Jackson & Spiller wouldn’t sniff 60 yards against our run D.
by Doni S on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Resident Dallas Cowboy fan here.
Congrats on the big win against Tampa Bay. The Niners are finally starting to get the respect they deserve. Good luck against the Lions.
Thank you Sir
THE LIONS ARE GOING DOWN!
by whatsURdeal on Oct 12, 2011 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Some interesting rankings
My completely unsolicited top 10
1.) Green Bay
2.) New England
3.) New Orleans
4.) Baltimore
5.) San Diego
6.) San Francisco
7.) Buffalo
8.) Detroit
9.) Pittsburgh
10.)Tennessee
Rankings are purely subjective and an opinion....
but, in my eyes, the ’Skins are not a better team than the Niners. I really believe the difference will be night and day when we do play them.
The other one I’m having a hard time with is the Ravens. I know they’ve been a powerhouse for a long time and they have great coaching and still a very talented defense, but something about them just screams overrated. The defense holds that team together way too much when the offense should really be what’s carrying them now. Rice is incredible, but Flacco still leaves something to be desired at this point. I think they should have dropped lower in the rankings across the board with Steelers and Bengals winning.
I’ll say that a big win against Detroit would boost us to #2 in my eyes. If we squeek one out, #3 or 4 depending on what the Pats and Saints do.
Wish we were ranked 20th
we need the “us against the world” mentality. We’re a young team and even the vets are cast-offs who aren’t used to a lot of success.
We're as good as we play each week, no better, no worse.
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by Tre9er on Oct 12, 2011 7:25 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
rankings
way to give it to the guy for some rankings lol. i think 10 is high enough for now, you better beieve if we went 12-4 or 11-5 he would rank us top 5 for sure. i think hes just trying to be objective here, which is necessary when doing rankings. i dont like the skins and raiders ahead of the niners either but at this point its just some speculation which is always fun to do. the lions are all that matters at this point should be our most physical game to date.
rankings
i dont think we are in the same class as the pats or packers or any of the top 5 teams in the league yet. i think its important as a niners fan this yr to always have a good perspective on things even during games. for example when gore fumbles the ball its easy in the moment to panic or rant and rave (like i used to lol) or even when the bucs drove it down on us and kicked the field goal. you have to let things play out a lil like when we were up two scores on the cowboys i let myself think we had won the game already and got really pumped up. guess how much that loss hurt me? i didnt watch anything sports related for a week and a half to save myself from the romo is a hero crap. just saying lets let the season play out a lil bit before we talk superbowl or being ranked number 2 even making the playoff at this point. the only thing we have guaranteed is that we have 4 wins at the end of the yr and we have a huge test this weekend in the road.
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