49ers vs. Lions: Ndamukong Suh Ready To Challenge Adam Snyder
by David Fucillo on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM PDT
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Earlier today we started up some discussion about the 49ers defensive matchup against Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson. Megatron is a monster of a receiver, and while he may not be impossible to cover, the 49ers will have their hands full trying to at least contain him.
On the other side of the ball, the Lions have a monster of a man in Ndamukong Suh. The Detroit Lions defensive line hasn't been spectacular thus far, but Suh remains a dominant force on that line. The 49ers will have to figure out a way to at least contain Suh if they want to keep Alex Smith upright.
In the running game, the counter to Suh would seem to be running more frequently on the edges. The Bears had a lot of success running on the edges. However, Suh and the rest of the Lions were able to disrupt Jay Cutler throughout the game and Matt Forte's strong performance went for naught.
Adam Snyder will be the first line of defense against Suh. I would imagine the 49ers will mix in some double teams as well. Jonathan Goodwin could spend a good deal of his day swinging over to help Snyder keep Suh out of the backfield. Part of that might depend on the availability of Mike Iupati. He is expected to play, but Chilo Rachal has been getting some snaps just in case. If Rachal goes, Goodwin might have his hands full beyond just Suh.
Speaking of Suh, he chatted with the 49ers beat writers earlier today and had some great lines (AUDIO, Transcript). The best had to be:
I don't think any part of my game is intimidation or fear factor. It's you either need to guard me or I'm going to hit your quarterback. If you're not going to block me I'm going to continue hitting your quarterback, I'm going to continue to hit him. It's not necessarily me putting fear like, "I want you to be scared of me." It's the fear of if you don't come up with a great plan, I'm going to hit him or the other eight or nine guys will hit him as well.
Even though I'm no Lions fan, that kind of understated confidence is pretty awesome. I don't want to see him hitting Alex Smith or breaking up a ton of runs, but it will be a stiff challenge for the 49ers offensive line to contain the big man. Some folks here have commented that maybe he isn't such a big deal. I disagree. Strenuously.
The 49ers do not have to dominate Suh to win this game, but they absolutely must contain him. If he runs free in the backfield and is getting sacks and hurries, it could be a long day. This could also prove to be a strong test of Smith's mobility. He is dealing with an incredibly athletic big man. My guess is Greg Roman and his staff have spent a ton of time game-planning this matchup.
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Reading just the title and nothing else, I’ve decided that Alex Smith will be sacked at least 15 times on Sunday. At some point in the third quarter, I expect him to be reduced to a pile of glass and dust.
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SMH
that’s not very positive. we will blow out the lions and put all the doubters in their place.
Comic relief.
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I agree, not funny. Not when Alex is finally making strides this year; Kaep isn’t ready for a ‘baptism under fire’
by Doni S on Oct 13, 2011 3:07 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Guys... It was a joke.
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by jacobtaylor2002 on Oct 13, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Christ almighty. The headline says, in so many words "Ndamukong Suh vs Adam Snyder."
The 49ers offensive line has been horrid this year. You guys are absolutely ridiculous. Be a little secure with your team, or something.
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I found it kinda funny.
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not everyone finds the same things funny
there is nothing wrong with you finding that funny. to each their own. GO 49ERS!!!
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I thought it was funny too
Justin Smith is something else. 100% Effort! 100% Class!
"I was just running toward the ball," Smith said. "The guys in front of him were making him slow up a little bit. I just went for the ball and, luckily, it was there."
That's cool, I understand I'm not funny 100% of the time.
But I wasn’t saying “comic relief” to express how funny I am, I was saying it to let the other guy know that what I was saying was not serious. There’s a difference between trying to make a host of people laugh and poking fun at a headline.
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time to let your love of chilo go, salmon and all
and time to embrace adam snyder, the guy who is going to pancake suh six times in a row.
how’s that for humor?
I really quite like Adam Snyder, as it happens.
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The 49ers offensive line has been horrid this year.
Wait…. is this part of the joke too?
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Your joke is funnier
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our o-line has made progress…as our last game might indicate against Tampa.
To each their own, I guess…
by Doni S on Oct 13, 2011 3:31 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Do I need to spell out the fact that my post is not at all serious?
Or, do you think the guy who has written a few thousand words on the offensive line, its struggles AND it’s improvement over the past five weeks doesn’t have a clue?
“To each their own” is so dumb. I said, even TODAY that the entire o-line has impressed him. Ugh.
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Apologies for the tone. I just don't quite get the "to each their own" part, because I never said anything to contradict "our o-line has made progress."
Not once.
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I think
this could have all been avoided had you implemented the “sarcasm font”… I knew exactly too what you were referring James. I think people are just getting a bit more sensitive about the idea of Alex getting waxed because he is giving us all so much hope this year…
by Sigelvictory on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
he really is…until Harbaugh came along, a lot of us were bemoaning the fact that we didn’t draft the ahem…other QB out of Cal; but what’s done is done as the saying goes.
If Harbs trusts Alex enough to get things turned around, why shouldn’t we?
by Doni S on Oct 13, 2011 4:25 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
That's pretty sad ...!!
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Keep doing what you're doing nj
Having to identify sarcasm pretty much defeats the whole purpose.
Justin Smith is something else. 100% Effort! 100% Class!
"I was just running toward the ball," Smith said. "The guys in front of him were making him slow up a little bit. I just went for the ball and, luckily, it was there."
Sure
But I still want to know why you think our o-line sucks.
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Suh is going to lay an egg on sunday.
suh better hope he does not have the same fate as mccoy did last week.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly suh is my least favorite player in the league and has been for a while.
First off he is a totally dirty player. His hits on dalton and delhomme were completely unnecessary and flagrant. Then the media perceives him as one of the nicest"kids" in the league. Are you serious?? He’s a grown man who can’t control himself. Today on espn.com there was a poll: who is more dominant on defense? 2 choices
Patrick Willis 26%
Ndamukong Suh 74%
I was disgusted and now I hope we beat the lions even more. I can’t stand detroit and how overrated they are.
by MNY49 on Oct 13, 2011 2:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
they both are a beast
but yea i hope we beat them, maybe then will they show us alittle love.
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doubt it; if they won’t show us highlights of us annihilating Tampa, why would they care to show us beating Detroit…provided we win of course…
by Doni S on Oct 13, 2011 4:31 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Both are pro-bowlers that make it look easy...
But 3/4 of the vote? That’s ridiculous… Compare Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis it’d be close… Compare Ray Lewis and Suh, Lewis probably wins… Polls are stupid…
polls aren't stupid...
people are stupid.
by Sigelvictory on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
also take into account the fact that ESPN
just keeps gushing over the Lions, and never even so much as mentions the 49ers… not much reason to believe anyone would be on ESPN.com to actually vote for P52. Might as well have the poll questioned asked by the Detroit Free Press…
by Sigelvictory on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
so then
polls are stupid when the poll taker uses a sample group that is insufficiently educated about the choices.
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That's one of the most ignorant things I've heard this year.
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Just off the top of your head?
Or have you compared it to all the other ignorant things you’ve heard this year, and objectively determined it to be among the most ignorant of them all?
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He's a Lions fan , i sure he's heard plenty of ignorant things over the years ...!!
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Suh
…is not a dirty player. Does he play agressively? Yes, and I do think he gets frustrated when he gets so close and does not make the “big play”. He is in his second year and needs to learn to control his agression, but he does not go out and intentionally look to hurt anyone.
I do think he is an incredible talent and while you may not always see that from a statistical perspective you will see it when you watch him play. He is a game changer, and as dominant of a player on defense as anyone I have ever watch play the game.
I’m sorry you feel the Lions are overrated, I’m excited how they have turned it around and am almost as excited for the Niners and Bills. It’s nice to see some fresh teams turning some heads.
Best of luck to the Niners this weekend, it has the making of a great game!
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by West Side Lions Fan on Oct 13, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This game is going to be smash mouth on both sides
and Suh, who is incredible, is going to be part of that. The Lions have a lot of talent and with nine guys to rotate and keep your d-line fresh, it’s going to be a big challenge for us. In fact, I see that as the key to the game. Think we’ll have an edge on special teams, and our defense will keep your offense from runaway scoring with an interception or two (hopefully) and a staunch red zone stand. But our o-line is the key to our ability to score. I’m hoping they build upon the great strides they made the past couple weeks. And I’m glad we finally have some smart game planners.
It’s going to be an awesome game!
I love his confidence & attitude and like the chirping going into a big game
I like even more that it is not a Niner doing the chirping.
Perhaps success is causing Detroit to feel themselves a bit too much. They even had Kidd Rock in the locker room Monday night. I prefer our guys stay quiet and focused.
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by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Definitely,
speak on the field and with the score. Big puffy sound bites are for the weak.
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by RexTookMyStash on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Value of Carlos Rogers and Experience to Avoid Suh Type Comments
Carlos Rogers in a recent interview recalled how under Zorn the redskings were 6-2 in the first 8 games, then after the bye went 2-6. Suh’s confidence is goign to get him beat.
I didn't think Suh was being too boastful
He wasn’t guaranteeing victory or threatening anyone with injury.
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by dutra on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Suh has exactly the kind of confidence I respect
He is humble but also aware of his own abilities
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 13, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I know this much...
If the 49ers execute their gameplan as well as they did last week against Tampa, I firmly believe the Lions could get embarrassed. I just don’t think they are all that much better than Tampa, and their defense has similar deficiencies to eagles. They can be run on, and our Tight Ends can pick them apart. Tampa made a lot of mistakes against us, but most of them were forced mistakes… If we can keep it up against the Lions, I really believe we can win this one going away.
I think our defense holds the lions to less than 24 points
Megatron is BIG but he isn’t as explosive off the line as other wideouts he’s not going to burn us play after play
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
they aren’t gonna run on us, period. so they’ll be forced to go through the air and we all know who Stafford’s favorite target is. Hamper Megatron just enough and that’ll effectively negate their offense
by Doni S on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
yea Megantorn will get his
but i think we will win. i dont want to say by how much. that dont matter too much to me, but as long as we win….its all good.
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4.3
Megatron has 4.3 speed. Not a joke.
by TotallyBodaciousDude on Oct 13, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope...
That, my friend, is what we refer to as “a fact”…
Doesn't mean he'll single-handedly win the game...
1 TD alone will not break us…
Watching him he doesn't seem to have the same agility or burst as some other wr's out there though
He’s an animal in the red-zone but I’m not afraid of him burning us over the top again and again like djax does
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 13, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I can understand that you might not see CJ as a speedy WR in the likes of Desean Jackson but if you watch him enough you will realize that he is a great route runner and has the speed to burn dbl coverage.
All that being said I am looking forward to a great game. Being from Toronto there is myself and 2 buddies (they are 49er fans and I a Lions fan) heading to watch this game. The best part is that no one expected this to be a marquee matchup at the start of the season. Now its a combined 9-1 win loss record and maybe even a playoff game down the road?
Good luck to you guys. For 51 weeks of the year the 49ers are my 2nd fav team but not this week!!
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The Defense
Might have similar deficiencies (I disagree, but I’m not an expert so my opinion doesn’t matter) but the strengths of the D are much greater than the Eagles. After watching games this year and last year, I don’t see the Lions being embarrassed. (I’d only call the Patriots game last year embarrassing) They can definitely be beat, but after being down by huge margins they came back. Now maybe a good team still wins those games, but I don’t see them crushing down for an entire game.
Okay....
There is some wonderfulness on POD right now.
One says Forte is better than Gore, and it was said the Viking offense is better than ours. I don’t know if I can do this all on my own. LoL
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Sad how REALLY bad people think our offense is.
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Forte is better than Gore IMHO.
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by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 13, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
No way
Receiving I think he may have better stats. He is not the runner or blocker Gore is.
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That is exactly why Forte is better. Because he is a more complete RB.
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by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 13, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
because he can catch the ball better...
there is still blocking and running the ball
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by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 13, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Being arguably better at one of three phases makes him better?
Interesting…
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I wish I had the Kool-Aid concession in Detroit
The fans are swimming in the stuff. Apparently their whole team is going to the Pro Bowl this year.
Justin Smith is something else. 100% Effort! 100% Class!
"I was just running toward the ball," Smith said. "The guys in front of him were making him slow up a little bit. I just went for the ball and, luckily, it was there."
There's the obligatory statement about us being over confident
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True.
But some Detroit fans seem to think since they are good, nobody else is.
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When you're 5-0
People tend to overreact to things. I like to think I’m level headed most of the time (besides game threads) but every team has those fans.
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lol I'm a 3rd party observer I've seen both play
Going by this year, Forte has way more upside now. He’s also the better player RIGHT NOW. Forte is 3 years younger, and we all know RB’s have a short shelf life.
Forte has a worse O-line.
2011 Stats:
Forte 82 Attempts 440 yards 30 rec 345 yards
Gore 94 Attempts 400 yards 10 rec 66 yards
I HATE the bears and yet im telling you he’s better. I’m unbiased unlike all of you. He is a good blocker too so that point is moot.
Gore was better like 5 years ago whenever he had that 1600 yard year, but now? No.
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by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Oct 13, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn't say Gore wasn't a good receiver
He merely stated that Forte has better receiving stats. Gore is actually a great receiver and I truly believe to be the most complete back in the league
by Ikaros on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
DEFINITELY better than Matt Forte
That’s all I was going for.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Forte has gore beat in the raw athleticism department
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Oct 13, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
So does Reggie Bush
Doesn’t mean a thing.
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That makes total sense.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
honestly im not too worried about suh
im more worried about the 3 other guys that are coming after alex once we have double teamed suh
by Gustav Thelen Dow on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM PDT reply actions
Well, I would like to add an observation....
Although I didnt watch the whole MNF game…I didnt see Suh do a ton…
and triple teamed
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If...
We get the ball out quick like last week, I think we will be ok.
by renke81 on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Run the ball....a lot
Line up Soap in the backfield…a lot
after suh’s been knocked around by a bigger man for a couple of quarters, open up the passing game.
it would be sorta fun to put ICE in just so he can run right at Suh a few times...
by Sigelvictory on Oct 13, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
2 big tractor trailers goin’ to town…and Miller bringin’ up the rear; now there’s a plan!
by Doni S on Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Even better than that-
I want Iupati to play, and CREAM Suh on a pulling play. He’s one of two or three dudes in the league physically capable of doing that. It would please me.
Suh’s an exceptional talent, but the flagrant fouls on Dalton and Delhomme rub me the wrong way, in terms of intentionally trying to injure other players AFTER the play.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 13, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Ginn could have a pretty good day..
I also think he can be a great receiver.. That guy can obviously catch the ball and run like nobody on this team in open space.. He just needs to polish up a little on his route running and he could be very dangerous… I see the lions trying to take VD and Crabs out of the game.. So Teddy needs to step up and the running backs will have make the best of every situation possible.. If we can walk out of there with no turnovers and 2 sacks and one dropped catchable pass..And cause only a few penalties… Then I think we will be victorious.. But if we are not clicking and shooting ourselves it will be hard to overcome adversity…. Go niners… Akers has got to hit every field goal this game too.. No shanks from Andy Lee either…
by pigskin slapper on Oct 13, 2011 3:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
thats a tall order...
but I am sure that SF will not let you down!
From what Maiocco is saying (thinking)
Spencer could possibly be the guy that is going up against Calvin Johnson (yes, for this week I am calling him by his regular name) because he has done well against the bigger receivers like Larry Fitzgerald.
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A good counter...Frank Gore the Det DLine...a second counter...
Ask B. Miller to help on blocking…this kid loves contact
Anyone see the poll on ESPN?
If the Packers are No. 1 who is number 2?
The Lions are leading with 39% of the vote. This is crazy, the Lions are 5-0 but they are lucky to be that, they very well could be 3-2 right now.
let me guess, they were “lucky” to get here but we did everything on our own, right?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 13, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
We are the luckiest team on Earth, and don’t deserve to be anywhere near our record. We are lucky to even make it through a game. We are a horrible team with a horrible QB and will never do anything without luck.
Right?
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
5-10 good games in seven years and now all of a sudden he’s a great QB.I still remember in the game thread when people were actually saying that there was no other QB in the league except for Rodgers, Brees, and Brady that they would trade Alex for.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 13, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, but some of us actually pay attention to the games.
It’s not like Alex is playing better than ever or anything. Because, you know, what would THAT matter.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
But the Lions are not 3-2 they are 5-0. I am pretty sure that at the end of the game it doesnt matter how you got the score to where it is it just matters that you have more points at the end then the other team. I was not aware that style points were handed out.
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Haven't been this pumped for a game in a long time.
I forgot what this felt like. LoL
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
I went to the same High School as Snyder
I graduated in ‘08 and am only 21, so obviously he was way before me. But still… that’s pretty cool. XD
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det and sf
fans are a little over confident going in to this game, but it seems like the lions team might be getting more confident than the 9ers.
Act like you've been there...
SF fans, I believe, have been there and remember what its like to win. Detroit, not so much.
by agchee on Oct 14, 2011 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if stopping the run and getting sack was the number one and two priority for the front seven. Niners clearly win.
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