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49ers DC Vic Fangio Discusses Calvin Johnson, Third-Best Cowboys Receiver

The 49ers coordinators got together with the media today for a press conference, and discussed a number of things relating to the upcoming matchup with the Detroit Lions. Personally, I can't wait for this game, I think it's the first time in a very long time that one is able to say "That 49ers-Lions game should be one to watch!", you know? How long has it been since you've said that? The only way this matchup would have been interesting two years ago is if somebody had insulted Mike Singletary's mother and word came out that it was Moran Norris, who was bonded by trauma with his 0-16 2008 Lions teammates.

That being said, the conference was pretty long today, and I think a lot of good stuff was covered. More than anything, I love what defensive coordinator Vic Fangio had to say about Lions' wide receiver Calivin Johnson:

Is Calvin Johnson comparable to another receiver you've been against?

"Well, first off I want to say he would be the best receiver on our team, not the third best. So, we have a tremendous amount of respect for him. ..."

To me, that's awesome. I love that JIm Schwartz had some snark directed at Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, and I love that Fangio is dishing some out, as well. If you had forgotten, Ryan had said that Johnson would be the third-best receiver on the Cowboys, behind Miles Austin and Dez Bryant. I personally have Johnson as the second-best receiver in the entire league, but that's just me.

There's more to that quote after the jump, and the rest of the conference as well. Fangio covers Carlos Rogers and his success, Jahvid Best and the problems he creates (especially in the wake of his breakout performance against the Chicago Bears), and confirms that he expects NT Isaac Sopoaga back in action. Make the jump for the transcript.

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Defensive Coordinator Vic Fangio
Press Conference - October 13, 2011

What kind of challenges does Lions RB Jahvid Best present for your defense?

"A lot. He's extremely fast, he's quick, he's very elusive. He's got deceptive strength, also. He's a hard guy to tackle. Any time he gets to the open field, he's capable of hitting a homerun, as I'm sure you saw Monday night when he had the 88-yard run for the touchdown. He's a big challenge for us and he's a big part of their offense. A lot of teams play coverage on these guys because of their receiving threats and the quarterback and it opens up their running lanes in there for him and they try to make you pay for that with him."

Do you guys figure you'll be in nickel quite a bit with the three wides they put out there?

"We'll mix it up. We stay in our base against three wide receivers some, and sometimes we go to five DBs. We'll mix it up."

What do you look for now from that number three cornerback? CB Shawntae Spencer was out a week, CB Chris Culliver played, so how do you guys determine who you go with this week?

"Number one it becomes a health issue for Shawntae if he's ready or not. Number two, just see how it goes from that point forward. Right off the bat, it's a health issue. If Shawntae is only 85 or 90 percent, then we definitely go with the healthy guy."

Speaking of health issues, do you expect to have NT Isaac Sopoago back at nose tackle this week?

"I believe he'll be available to play, yes. Right now, I haven't heard otherwise that he won't be."

When you look around the league, you see Lions WR Calvin Johnson's so big and all the receivers seem to be getting much bigger in stature. Do you remember a time when receivers were this large, this fast, this athletic?

"Everybody's wanted the big receivers for a long time now. He's definitely one of the elite ones in that category. It becomes an issue. We're basically trying to cover power forwards with point guards when the ball gets down the field and if the guy's athletic enough to get down the field and make those kind of plays, it can become a mismatch at times down the field. It's a problem and everybody's looking for big, fast receivers. Detroit got one; they got him obviously at the top of the draft. They're hard to find, also, just like big corners are hard to find. They've got a special player and he's hard to deal with."

The past few games you've been using CB Carlos Rogers quite a bit in the slot. Is this the kind of game, is Calvin Johnson the kind of guy where you might need to isolate Rogers the whole time?

"You mean in the slot?"

No, I'm just meaning wherever Calvin goes, Rogers goes. Not necessarily in the slot.

"No."

Do you just feel that he's not... does that sort of mess with the integrity of the defense when you start doing stuff like that?

"A little bit it does. We feel all of our up front cover guys in our nickel situation, we feel basically the same about all of them."

Why is Carlos thriving here? He has made a pretty simple statement that he gets to be himself working for you.

"I don't know the answer to that, you'd have to ask him I guess. I think he's enjoyed being here. He's had some success early on. He hasn't been perfect, but I just think he enjoys the environment, the way he's being coached, what we're doing on defense. And when you're winning, and you're playing good, things kind of snowball for you in a positive direction."

Did the Lions use Jahvid in any new ways Monday night? It seems like he's in a single back formation a lot, but did you see anything about the way they used him that kind of jumped out at you?

"No, it's been the same they've done all year. They are a single back team. They don't have a fullback on their roster. There's always only going to be one back back there, for the most part. On rare occasions they'll put a tight end back there. They are a single back team. It's just whether they have two tight ends on the field, or one with three receivers, or two tight ends with two receivers. That's their game. They're a one back operation."

Given his background, it seemed like Culliver might be a little bit of a project as a rookie. How has he been able to step in and be pretty effective?

"All rookies are a project in the beginning, in particular here when we didn't have the offseason. He's done a good job of progressing, trying to stay focused, learning the system. When he wasn't playing those first three games or whatever it was, still staying on top of his assignments and his techniques. I think [Secondary Coach] Ed's [Donatell] done a great job of coaching with him and meeting with him extra and keeping him focused and ready to go. When he got his opportunity here the last two weeks, he was ready to play and wasn't just going out there cold and he hadn't paid attention for three weeks. It's been two fold. One, he's done a good job of staying focused and being ready and I think our secondary coaches have done a great job of keeping him ready."

We've seen LB Aldon Smith as a defensive end we haven't seen him as an outside linebacker. How is he progressing just standing up, and is he ready for game action in that role?

"Well he got a little bit of it last week. At the end of the game we played him in our base package. And to answer that question, I don't know until we find out. If [LB] Ahmad [Brooks] or [LB] Parys [Haralson] have to come out he's the next guy in, in our base package, and be an outside linebacker. We'll find out at that point.He gets fair amount of reps at practice at it, and he stays on top of it mentally. And, we'll see."

Has Coach Harbaugh brought up his Frederick P. Soft philosophy to you coaches? I mean, he's been entertaining us with stories of this guy. What's your take on it?

"Ask Coach Harbaugh. He's used that in the past. He's more eloquent explaining it than I could be. But, I think it's just a fun way to remind everybody that just because we won a couple ballgames, it's not time to rest on the laurels or gloat on the past. We've got a tough assignment this week going up to Detroit, as you do each and every week in the NFL,particularly on the road. So, it's just his way of trying to keep everybody focused in a fun way."

Did Frederick P. Soft make an appearance at Stanford last year?

"No. The one game we lost, we lost. Not because Freddy made an appearance."

Do you know with any certainty the last time Freddy appeared?

"There's word that he's been lurking here in the Bay Area. That he may have come back. He's on the east coast and may have come back with the Raiders on their team plane from their last road game, and trying to make his way over here. So, we're on guard. Our security people out front have been given a description, and trying to keep him out of the facility."

What's he look like?

"I've never met him. So, I don't know that."

Is Calvin Johnson comparable to another receiver you've been against?

"Well, first off I want to say he would be the best receiver on our team, not the third best. So, we have a tremendous amount of respect for him. He's a bigger [Former WR] Randy Moss in some ways. In that he's a downfield threat. He's tough to cover down the field in the jump-ball situations, like Randy Moss was. But, this guy's bigger. He's thicker. He's listed at 235. I think he might be more than that. He's just a rare guy. He's that big, but yet runs as fast as he does. So, he's a real challenge for you in the coverage area. He makes some of those plays where you can have two guys there, you're in the perfect coverage, and it's just whether he comes down with the ball, or your guys can get it out. So, he is a double-tough coverage situation for us, as he is for everybody. And he's really what makes their offense go, along with 44 and their quarterback."

You've got a-not a huge safety, but S Dashon Goldson, a little bit taller than the normal one, long armed, is that a nice matchup when it comes to somebody like Johnson?

"Well ultimately whoever it is, whether it be Dashon, or one of our other safeties, they've got to go up and compete for the ball. I think sometimes guys don't go up and compete for the ball as aggressively as they need to when they're defending this guy. And, they need to go up and battle this guy. And Dashon would be a good candidate for us to do that. But, it could be any one of our safeties at any situation, along with the corners. So, we've just got to find a way to go up and battle this guy."

Can you practice that? I mean that would seem to be a maybe a dangerous practice maneuver to do, guys jumping for a ball in practice.

"Well, we don't have a receiver here that can really emulate him from a size and speed perspective. Probably the best we've got we were talking about would be to put [QB Colin] Kaepernick out there, who's tall and fast, but I don't know that the offense would be real crazy about that happening. It's hard, it's like anybody that's a little different and a little special. It's hard to simulate it in practice. It's hard to simulate the speed of Jahvid Best  in practice because he's extremely fast and he accelerates really fast. However fast he is, he gets to it quickly."

Last game was the first chance you had S Donte Whitner and Dashon Goldson play at the same time. Can you talk about them as a safety tandem and is that what you were envisioning during training camp?

"Well, during training camp that was kind of a fluid situation. If you remember I really don't know what were envisioning back then because, brought one in and one got hurt and excreta. It was kind of a revolving door back in training camp. They are two good players, as is [S] Reggie Smith, as is [S] Madieu [Williams]. All four of them are playing a lot of plays so far this year. We're glad we have them all and the one thing we've proven with this season already, after only five games, is we kept 10 DBs on this roster and they've all played. You have to have defensive backs in this league. You must have depth back there and you need to have 10 and anybody that doesn't believe that, you're just rolling the dice. Eventually everybody is going to have to play back there. This has become a passing league and you've got to have defensive backs that can play the pass and be competitive back there."

Along the lines of Eric's question, is there anyone that resembles Jahvid Best?

"I need a list here to think. You know he's a little but like [Cowboys RB] Felix Jones that we played from  Dallas earlier in the year who was very, extremely fast. This guy I think runs a little bigger and accelerates quicker into his speed, whatever it is. They both may be as fast as each other, Jones may even be faster, but this guy seems to get to his top gear fast. They're both great players, and both great threats out there."

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At the end of Sunday's game...either a whole lot of folks be talk'en about

our Defense, our about their Defense.

What concerns me is if its about their Defense, I hope part of that talk is not how Alex got the crap beat out of him.

This game my friends is a way, way bigger test for our O-Line than you may recognize.

by BigMar on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Every week is the biggest test.

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by Drew Kerr on Oct 13, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes the Bucaneers are a good team with a good young quarterback

A big talented young reciever, and a big bruising running back. They have a balanced defensive front that plays well as a unit. They got surprised by us. They had no idea the 49ers were going to play for real.

The Lions are an upstart team like us, fighting their way from the bottom last year. They aren’t coming in complacent. Especially considering the whoopin Tampa got last week.

The Lions are tougher than the Bucs, but not a whole lot. It’ll be a rough road game but the 49ers can beat them if they stay focused and play the game they’ve been playing all season so far.

I think it’ll be a low scoring game.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 13, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defensive Backs

Wow. I love his take on the defensive backfield. This is exactly the kind of mindset that will help the niners be a world class defense.

by t p on Oct 13, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

to quote P90X “it makes me happy”

by reedkrase on Oct 14, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love the statement from Baalke ... ( " 53 men on 49th Street " ) ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 13, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Fangio more and more...

… every day.

“You must have depth back there and you need to have 10 and anybody that doesn’t believe that, you’re just rolling the dice.”

The confidence in that comment. My god. I love that he just comes out and exudes, “We know what we’re doing. We do things right here, and it shows.”

I’m so pumped for this game. I want to see our defense all over the place, defending passes, making big hits, getting turnovers, sacking Stafford, stuffing the run. It can happen.

Alex Smith Will Win a Superbowl
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 13, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

i said if we beat the eagles, it would be incredible

i said if we beat the bucs, i would be a believer for the first time in a long time

if we beat the lions, i’ll take all of my clothes off and run around on the lawn

by MattSFfrd on Oct 13, 2011 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 13, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIRDED!

Alex Smith Will Win a Superbowl
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by liberty_JAC on Oct 13, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lions O-Line is quietly very, very good....

Only 6 sacks allowed so far…. and some large guys.

  • RT – Gosder Cherilus 6’7 / 327 lbs
  • RG – Stephen Peterman 6’4 / 323 lbs
  • C – Dominic Raiola 6’1 / 295 lbs
  • LG – Rob Sims 6’3 / 312 lbs
  • LT – Jeff Backus 6’5 / 305 lbs

by BigMar on Oct 13, 2011 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Dominic is, lovingly, our little midget on the line.

But thankfully because he’s a center he gets to double team guys and doesn’t often have to take on guys by his lonesome self; really good at the second level, but we have some struggles against 3-4s because of how big NTs are coming these days.

The biggest threat about our line is the continuity; Backus and Raiola have both been on the team for ten years, the line as a unit has been playing together for at least a full season and with as much as the Lions pass, that’s a lot of pass protection snaps they’ve gotten acclimated with.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Oct 13, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I like Fangio
“I don’t know the answer to that, you’d have to ask him I guess. I think he’s enjoyed being here. He’s had some success early on. He hasn’t been perfect, but I just think he enjoys the environment, the way he’s being coached, what we’re doing on defense. And when you’re winning, and you’re playing good, things kind of snowball for you in a positive direction.”

He’s never going to gush over players. Even with Willis he just had to throw in that his blitzing ability isn’t where it should be. He always has them working to get better, so they don’t get complacent.

by supraman on Oct 13, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I have just as much confidence in our D as

Fangio… I mean only giving up 6 points in the last six quarters is awesome.. If we can do that again this week that means Detroit only scores 4 points.. Perfect..they get 2 safeties, we don’t mind giving those out…lol.. Everyone has to remember that this is by far the lions biggest test also.. Not just ours.. And our boys like to hit all day long.. I guarantee atleast two starters are heading to the locker room Sunday for Detroit..

by pigskin slapper on Oct 13, 2011 7:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

michael vick is much scarier than stafford

"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004

by rekehavoc on Oct 13, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends.

Mobility? Sure, Michael Vick is the scariest quarterback in history.

But in terms of arm? I’d put Stafford up against everyone. Every game he’s throwing 50+ yard bombs all air like it’s nothing, and when he’s hot he can hit windows smaller than the quarter glass of a 73 mustang.

Question is, will he be hot?

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Oct 13, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUH

"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."

by seabeeruss on Oct 13, 2011 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Double team Suh

and deal with the other 8

"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."

by seabeeruss on Oct 13, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

bruce miller on Suh

Have Bruce pick up Suh with our guard. Miller is a stud, best fullback since bar-none .

by wtlichens on Oct 13, 2011 8:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can't find the article where I read this, but I'm pretty sure it was on football outsiders, where it explained that the whole Detroit rotation is quite good.

There are a lot of linemen getting a lot of sacks on the Detroit D. Granted, much of this is probably due to Suh being double-teamed and freeing up space, but it’s something to watch out for. Shutting down Suh does not necessarily mean shutting down the rest of the line.

by Rhombus on Oct 13, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

True.

Also, Suh gets rotated out too. We cycle 9 linemen all game long, there’s plenty of snaps when Suh isn’t even on the field; but the line still makes things happen.

A small fact unknown to many is Corey Williams (the 1-tech starting next to Suh) actually takes a fair amount of doubles away from him; particularly on running plays.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Oct 13, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rotating 9 D-linemen

keeps the D fresh into the 4th qtr.

THE LIONS ARE GOING DOWN!

by whatsURdeal on Oct 13, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the main benefit of it, aye.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

And V Davis

is scary

"I like to win all the time, so all the time I play with myself."

by seabeeruss on Oct 13, 2011 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Just watching some of the Monday night game

Because I missed most of it.. The bears are idiots in this game.. All the penalties, not taking the field goal and gettin 3 in the beginning.. Not capitalizing off the interception.. They let CJ run right by them into the end zone.. Same with the Best rushing touchdown.. Dude was not even touched.. Detroit did put together a couple good drives, but other than that it was two big bad defensive plays.. Now the lions D got good pressure most of the game, but every time Cutler rolled out of the pocket the coverage broken down and he connected with a receiver on the run… Lions are real vunerable to the run game also.. I think we can really win this one if the coordinators really get a feel of what the lions like to do.. Which is play in shotgun ALOT with a single back set!!! and they like to use the wide 9 defense…I think we can game plan these cats real good.. Especially with draw pressure screens..

by pigskin slapper on Oct 13, 2011 10:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

They are not that scary in this game..

I mean come on.. Detroit had 7 points on the board until half of the 3rd quarter… Then they had a good drive then a lucky run by Best.. I see having atleast 17 points by the beginning of the 4th quarter.. And stopping one of those big plays atleast..OK Im done here the Bears blew it and not it’s time for clean up duty for us..

by pigskin slapper on Oct 13, 2011 10:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Really?
OK Im done here the Bears blew it and not it’s time for clean up duty for us..

You can’t give the Lions any credit? Its always “team so-and-so” blew it?

Happier than a pig in shit that I was wrong about Matthew Stafford since 2009!
Go Lions, Tigers, Red Wings and Pistons!

by JazzyBBP on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think our weapon against megatron is...

Chris Culliver he has the better size and speed out of all our cb’s which makes him better suited to man him up allowing us to use our exotic schemes to fluster stafford.

by Zintzun22niner on Oct 13, 2011 10:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

"brought one in and one got hurt and excreta"

ORLY?

Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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by zenbitz on Oct 13, 2011 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

love it.
What’s he look like?

“I’ve never met him. So, I don’t know that.”

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 14, 2011 12:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't get it ...

… I don’t understand the ‘best receiver, not the third best’ comment. At all. Someone explain it to me? Seriously. I don’t understand it.

by LondonNiner on Oct 14, 2011 4:28 AM PDT reply actions  

People have said that Johnson is the 3rd best receiver ever

behind Jerry Rice and Chris Carter. Fangio is saying that CJ is the 1st best of all time.

Frankly, I think they all lose to Rashaul Woods. That guy was truly a #1 … #1 something

by brundylop on Oct 14, 2011 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ...

…. thanks. Why does he say ‘on our team’ then?

by LondonNiner on Oct 14, 2011 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

(hopefully the joke was not lost)

I wasn’t sure if you actually didn’t know the reference, or was being sarcastic about its over coverage.

The actual reference is Rob Ryan (Cowboys D Coordi) saying that Calvin Johnson would only be the 3rd best receivers on the Cowboys behind Dez Bryant and Miles Austin. That probably upset Johnson, who came out with a great game to beat the Cowboys

by brundylop on Oct 14, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was being genuine. I missed the whole Cowboys thing. I get it now :)

by LondonNiner on Oct 14, 2011 7:51 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I think I get that part. But if he’s saying ‘our team’ then (a) he seems to be telling Edwards/Crabtree etc they are not as good as Johnson which whilst true, does seem an odd thing for a coach to say about players on his own team and (b) I couldn’t figure out why Fooch would love that or think it was great and © your intepretation is different from Brundy’s so I’m even more confused now and (d) I think I’ll give up and stop caring.

by LondonNiner on Oct 14, 2011 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fangio did indeed slight the 49ers current receivers

but honestly, who would honestly say that any one of Braylon, Crabtree, Ginn is better than Calvin Johnson?

It’s like saying to a guy, you’re not as fast as Usain Bolt. In some sense, yes it’s a slight. But it’s so obvious and true that it’s hard to take offense.

by brundylop on Oct 14, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take offense? I thought Fangio was in charge of the defense?! OK, now I’m joking. ;)

by LondonNiner on Oct 14, 2011 7:49 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

they are all grown men

i was discussing this with my friend (a cowboy fan) i asked him why ryan would say something so stupid? he said “so they wont get their feelings hurt” LMAO. if Crabs or Edwards would get butt hurt because of what Fooch said, then they shouldnt be in the NFL. you have to have thick skin to play in the NFL. if your coach says that another player is better (and its true) then all you can do play hard and try to make big plays to show that you are good too.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Oct 14, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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