NFL Power Rankings, Week 7: 49ers Movin' On Up
NFL Power Rankings are being released throughout the day and as would be expected following the big win over Detroit, the 49ers are movin' on up to a deluxe apartment in the sky. At this point, the respect and discussion is there and the major media outlets are paying attention to the team. Their win over Detroit was overshadowed by the Harbaugh-Schwartz incident, but that is to be expected by the media following such a kerfuffle.
In my own NFL power rankings, I moved the 49ers from No. 10 to No. 4. People disagreed with my decisions in recent weeks, but I'd imagine most folks are fine with No. 4. The Packers, Patriots and Ravens are teams that the 49ers could potentially beat but they are playing some excellent football right now.
As you can see I also jumped them over the Raiders, but have the Raiders higher than many people. I think a road win at Detroit was enough to make that shuffle, but I still am high on the 2011 Oakland Raiders. I actually wrote those power rankings Monday night before the Carson Palmer deal, in part because I was fairly certain the Raiders would find some sort of QB to fill in. Kyle Boller was not going to be their starter the rest of this season. However, I also feel that the Raiders' offense is driven by Darren McFadden, which allows for a less than elite QB at the helm. I don't think we'll have a 49ers-Raiders Super Bowl anytime soon, but that would be rather crazy if it did happen at some point.
Below is a rundown of a few power rankings from around the Internet. Each includes some general commentary about the team.
SB Nation: #5
ESPN: #4
CBS Sports: #4
NFL.com: #5
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Important point:
The Packers, Patriots and Ravens are teams that the 49ers could potentially beat but they are playing some excellent football right now.
The Niners are easily a top 5 team now, but I think the most exciting thing is that we could beat any team in the league. Even the Packers. I can’t remember the last time I’ve felt like it wouldn’t be a huge upset for the Niners to beat any team in the NFL. Those teams would be favorites against us, especially if they played at home, but it wouldn’t shock anyone if the Niners pulled out a win. I’m loving this season, and I’m looking forward to every game.
Yup
Pack would be the toughest match-up, but anyone else, I’d give us a 50/50 shot at.
Does anyone else feel like if this Lions game was at home we would have won by at least 2 scores?
Walker dropped a ball in the endzone.
Crabtree could’ve had a TD. 120 yards in penalties. To my eye, the Lions were offsides 5 times without a call. Maybe i see it that way because I expected it, but the officials seemed to be on the Lion’s side. If Alex had set his feet better… etc. The point is, we could’ve won by 3 scores THERE, imo. I believe the score doesn’t accurately reflect the 9ers dominance.
When's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
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Interesting how you see what you want to see
Over at POD they are griping about all the missed calls or calls that didn’t go their way.
I commented there that it seemed to me that early on the calls seemed to favor Detroit, and later they seemed to favor SF, but it was a really poorly officated game all-around.
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I realize I'm biased
But the DE got the best jump in the history of the league on the strip sack of Alex, followed immediately by 15 yards for “roughing the passer”. Grabbing a QB’s ankles while laying on the ground? Hard to be objective with a start like that.
When's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
the walker drop in the endzone and the potential crabtree TD were back to back plays
if crabtree had gotten a TD, then the walker play wouldn’t have happened
by Andrew9erfan on Oct 18, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
But either one of them could have happened.
When's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
Walkers Production with Braylon Back..
I absolutely loved how they used Walkers versatility in that game and against the Bucs. Really proves to be a match up threat and his blocks have really helped open up some lanes for Gore. How do you think his production looks once Braylon Edwards is back? Walker really was the one who ended up filling the slot for Morgan i think.
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Aldon Smith, best choice possible in first round.
During the summer, I was all over the Patrick Peterson hype. Gotta cure the secondary. Best playmaker since Woodson. and so on. And we took… Aldon Smith.. who?. The thing is, when you have a leader – in anything, sport, business, life, family, you name it – and you give that leader a team, other teammates respond. You give a guy like Patrick Willis a rookie CB with expectations of the world on his shoulders, and the best that happens is P52 yelling from a distance what he needs to do different on the next play. But you give a guy like P52 a rook like Aldon, and show confidence in Bowman and Brooks, and all of a sudden your leader has a team. And he recognizes that you’re putting your resources – your valuable first round pick – on the line to give him a team. You (meaning, front office) make it important. He makes it important. He shapes that linebacking crew. Helps them figure it out before the play, not tell them what’s wrong after. This is the next generation version of the Steelers and Ravens of the last two decades. And that’s the energy that other pro’s need. Guys like Carlos, Whitner, Goldson (don’t kick the ball please we have a good punter). You think they’ll half-ass a play (don’t kick the ball please) with a rock-solid LB crew led by P52 in front of them? I think the tackle highlight-reel so far this year answer the question. And the guys right up front know that S$#%# is being taken care of behind them, and they can do the things they do well… Smith and McDonald are best in class right now. So we know Aldon is good, but when you think about it this way, that’s the best pick in a long long time.
Kudos to Harbauaalke for that one.
Around #4 seems right
The Packers and Patriots are obviously first and second, and the Ravens with their defense make a good case for 3rd, although you could make a case that the 49ers should be 3rd. After that, I’m not sure who I would put above the 49ers. The Saints have 2 losses and just lost to a team the 49ers completely dismantled, while the Chargers haven’t really looked that good in any of their wins. You can’t put the Lions ahead of them. The Bills just lost and the Giants and Steelers both have major question marks. Raiders? No thank you. The 49ers have been at least the 4th best team so far this season.
In the world of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
To be fair to the Saints their head coach got taken out of the game early
and was probably high on painkillers most of the time he was calling plays.
Agreed
You don’t figure your coach is going to get injured.
By seasons end, I expect the Packers AND Saints to be the class of the NFC on offense, though I’d take our defense over either of theirs.
AFC: Patriots, Ravens, and maybe San Diego. Those will be the teams to beat in December and January.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, I might put the Ravens as higher than the Pack at this point.
They’ve played a much harder schedule, and have done very well. The only knock against them is the loss to the Titans, but every other game has been decided by more than 14 points. The Packers, on the other hand, have played a ridiculously easy schedule with comparable numbers to the Ravens. There is no doubt that the Packers and Patriots offense are the best in the league, but they have very little balance, and what balance there is seems to favor the Patriots so far this season.
The Packers seem to be overrated by the national media. They may be the best team in the league, but they have some very close contenders, and they are not a very balanced team. A good team with a good coach could exploit their weaknesses. They are indeed the team to beat, but they are not the next coming of the Patriots of 2007.
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I wonder where we end up after going 14-2
5 games left against the NFC west, 5 wins
Beat the browns
beat the giants
bat the redskins
beat the ravens after shutting down ray rice because checkdown flacco can’t do anything
lose to the steelers
alex smith pro bowl season as well
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 4:51 PM PDT reply actions
Please beat the Ratbirds. It would mean so much to us Steelers fans.
Oh yeah, and maybe hurt Ray Rice a little bit, too.
Against Niners Defense:
Jones
Blount
Best
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we’ll hurt mendenhall too
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The Steelers are my second team
long story, but I can’t WAIT to see Smith and Smith take down the OTHER dirtbag quarterback in Pennsylvania.
Would also be happy to watch Willis do it up the middle. Why aren’t we blitzing him more? I know he’s insanely good in coverage for an LB, and he gives the others guys an extra half second to get there, but the man needs to start eating souls soon- He can do that better if occasionally let after the quarterback.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think his main job is hurting running backs, and not QB’s. Aldon Smith is doing a great job at getting to the QB… so they don’t really need Willis to stray from what he does best, which is taking away a teams running game.
I know
But I think it would help break teams spirits’ sooner if we blitzed him occasionally. Just do it on the first or second play of every game, just so their QB is constantly flinching trying to deal both with the Willis on the field, AND the one in his head.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
True
they should keep teams honest and to have it in their minds that at any given moment a beast could be unleashed on their QB.
by aBulldog on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right
Sort of “ok, we’ll let Smith and Smith demolish your passing game, but any funny business, we’re sending Willis!”
QB’s around the league will need the dark version of their team’s pants.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if this is true, lottwas,
but I read somewhere that the Niners didn’t blitz at all, never sent more than four on any play. I seem to remember a DB crossing the line of scrimmage, but even so, it seems like the defense can provide plenty of pressure up front, leaving the safeties to beat up receivers downfield instead of playing up pressuring the QB and stopping the run.
The biggest story on this team, which has plenty of big stories, is how the defense is playing and outscheming the rest of the league. Stafford had FIVE sacks. He looked whipped on that last possession.
but then I have a reading problem...
by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 19, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard the same
And while I don’t know if we TOTALLY refrained from blitzing, I remember just seeing four guys on the majority of defensive snaps.
But this is WILLIS we’re talking about (As opposed to “What’choo talkin’ bout Willis”), and we should occasionally send him just to break the other team’s spirits.
That said, I concede it’s his excellence against the short pass that allows the front four that extra time to get there.
Finally, YES! Stafford looked like a man who wanted to take his ball and go home after the game.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 19, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
wow
Alex Smith pro bowl season?? I’m proud of u clutchtree
by westxniner on Oct 18, 2011 5:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He should at least be put in the mix
I mean, he’s a top 5 QB in the NFC right now… but there is no way he gets the call before Brees, Rodgers or Stafford, unless one or two of them take a huge dip in stats or gets injured, and even then, he still has to compete with Romo and Vick, who aren’t playing as well as Smith, but have the bigger name.
But it’s fun to dream.
the saints just lost to the bucs who we destroyed. brees had 1 TD, 3 INTs. alex had 3 TD, 0 INT
smith > brees
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure why you think we'd beat the Ravens on the road, then lose to the Steelers at home.
The Ravens are by far the superior team.
no, we have alex smith, i trust the game in his hands. he’s better than flacco at least, and will be a pro bowler this season
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant superior to the Steelers.
I understand you’re being sarcastic, but I just wanted to point out that we are better than almost all those teams. And for once, this isn’t about alex. please dont make it about him. we’re all tired of it.
im not being sarcastic
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
if you're wondering why people think you're being sarcastic
it’s because what you just said goes against every other thing you’ve ever said about alex
by Andrew9erfan on Oct 18, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
NO LOSING TO THE STEELERS
That is my birthday, do you want me to die from alcohol poisoning?
I would rather lose to the Ravens than Steelers...
Which team was it that ruined what would have been a perfect season? (with the help of the officals?)…yup.
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 18, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It WAS a perfect season
We won the Super Bowl.
Ask the 2007-2008 Patriots if THEIR season was perfect…
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still pumped up about that game!
Damn, it’s great to be so excited about this team again. Harbaugh can give me a slap-shake and shove anytime. Hell, he can punch me square in the mouth right now for all I care!
On that note
Have you checked out the power rankings article on the league’s 32 head coaches, placing who would win in a Royal Rumble? The Harbaugh brothers tied for sixth. Personally, I’d probably have to give John the edge- living in Baltimore gives you street cred.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rodgers..."the only one who can beat the Packers is the Packers'
Is Aaron cocky or confident or both?
One thing I notice about Alex, he is still kind of reservered …but I am starting to see a bit of a little swagger from Alex. Possilbly winning and Harbaugh on side is helping Alex confidence.
By the time Alex meets Aaron in the NFC championship game (let me dream), hopefully Alex has a big of presence as Aaron.
NFC championship AKA Smith’s redemption game
by ninersince94 on Oct 18, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
Alex Smith Will Win a Superbowl
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alex-Smith-Will-Win-a-Superbowl/205058042848290
Both
As Muhammad Ali said, “it ain’t bragging if it’s true”.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Got us at number 2
Behind the Packers.
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Too high...at least for right now with ten games left.
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I don't see the Pats or Ravens as better than us
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Bot teams can get down the field in a hurry a lot better than us.
Our passing game has to elevate for me to bump up.
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...Which I think it will when Braylon gets back.
Smith is not timid to throw to him like he sometimes is with Crabtree. Man… Crabtree, Edwards, and Davis…plus Walker…ouch!
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It will be very easy for Smith to immediately recognize where the mismatch is when those guys are on the field all at the same time
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And the offensive line seems to be picking up
I think Anthony Davis will continue to improve. Staley needs to perform consistently, and the line will follow.
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Davis still has some work
on pass protection, but his run blocking on Sunday was NASTY. There was also a play, in backup duty, where Chilo HANDLED Suh. Always great to see.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Chilo stepped in nicely and I think a lot of people did not recognize that.
So kudos to you for noticing.
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Thanks
I wonder what Harbaugh could do to get him interested in playing like that more often- the guy has a LOT of physical talent, he just seems to be a bit of a head case/too many mental gaffes.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Consistency has been his biggest issue.
He’ll play like that one game, and then in the next he looks like a total schlepp
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I wonder if bringing him in consistently
off the bench might fix that.
It’s strange; he plays a position that’s not really known for having a lot of head cases.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you are right, but I think you are giving him too much credit. Besides, the offense has to create the mismatch oppurtunity, which I think we suck at, aside from the running game.
Alex Smith's best is yet to come. However, wagering a long deal in anticipation of him improving more during the offseason, is not an investment I'd make.
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Yeah, I think we are stacked
We were pretty stacked last season too, just shows what better coaching does! I think we’ve gone from having one of the worst coaching staffs (except Tomsula) to one of the best in one pre-season. Pretty amazing!
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by mrb24 on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I agree with that about the Pats
But the Pats D is awful, while I think we have the best D in the league. I think Flacco is overrated, and our team would match up quite well against the Ravens. With Edwards back, our offense will be Crabtree, Edwards, Davis, Walker, Gore and Hunter… that’s pretty amazing!
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Pats D
Is getting better. They’re keeping everything in check.
Top 5 is too high for week 6. However the ranking is based on now and not really how you got your record.
Power Rankings are soooo stupid anyway.
Alex Smith's best is yet to come. However, wagering a long deal in anticipation of him improving more during the offseason, is not an investment I'd make.
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Alex compared to Aaron... after 6 games
Alex: 158 att / 100 comp / 1090 yds / 6.90 avg / 8 TD / 2 INT / 63.3 qb rate
Aaron: 208 att / 146 comp / 2031 yds / 9.76 avg / 17 TD / 3 INT / 70.2 qb rate
I like that it takes things like sacks, QB rushing TDs
and RB rushing TDs that happened because the QB lead them down the field. But it seems too subjective with determining the importance of each play and penalizes way too much for sacks.
by Andrew9erfan on Oct 18, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron with an unbelieveable 9.76 avg per pass = WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He certainly has a whole lot of big play explosive WR’s
wow, alex is actually better than aaron rodgers!
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, very helpful.
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Alex is listed first, he must be better
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It's not as bad as the previous quarterback rating system.
It’s got flaws but it’s not the worst thing ever.
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I disagree. I would prefer Passer Rating to QBR any day.
At least we know the limitations of Passer Rating, and it’s simple to deduce where it may have gone wrong, or where someone may be over or underrated. QBR spits out a number based on a terrible formula which factors in win probability, which has nothing to do with a QB’s level of play.
Win probability is one tiny thing that they include...
And while a win is a team effort, the quarterback can have a pretty big impact on whether a game is won or lost; not totally but a QB to a team is one of the most significant. But that is such a small portion of what is measured, that you really have to give more weight to the things it does measure and what the old formula does measure.
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Explain
Alex Smith had something around a 28 for the Philly game…I know his first half was not good, but that is a bit absurd.
I’m assuming it is largely because in the 4th quarter Gore and Hunter got a lot of work. Total QBR is great in theory, in practice it is just a really incomplete formula.
Well ,until you look at Donte Culpepper has one of the best Qb rating for his career , thinkin that stat alone made ESPN come up with a new rating system ...!!
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by musamonster on Oct 19, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, Rogers has doublt the TD's 50 more throws, almost 50 more completions and 1 more pick.
Why post this, it shows the great despairity that we all know exist!
Alex Smith's best is yet to come. However, wagering a long deal in anticipation of him improving more during the offseason, is not an investment I'd make.
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Crap. I don't like the rankings at all!
In the 2 football pools I’m in(spread counts), I’ve always bet on the niners. I can’t bet against them, it just doesn’t work that way with me. The past few years, the niners have done an pretty good job of covering, now with these rankings, I’m sure they are going to have some big spreads that they need to cover!
Regardless, if the niners are 40+ point favorites against the Packers, I’m still going to bet on them! I want to be able to cheer on the Niners regardless of the score, i want to see more games like against Tampa where we just blow teams out!
Patriots are way overrated
as soon as somebody shuts their passing game down they have nothing. their D will NOT keep them in games if Brady/Welker cant get it done. They’re top 5 but not top 2.
as soon as somebody shuts their passing game down they have nothing.
it hasnt been shut down in 10 years. come on now
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 18, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree
Step Brothers was terrible regardless.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
No way
Step brothers was amazing
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Sigh
I will give you that it was funny. It was still a pretty terrible movie.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly couldn't stop laughin
absolutely brilliant :)
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Try imagining it with Steve Carrell instead of Will Ferrell.
Now kill yourselves because you can’t get the image of such a terrible movie out of your head.
It was shut down vs the Cowboys, but their defense did a good job.
Alex Smith's best is yet to come. However, wagering a long deal in anticipation of him improving more during the offseason, is not an investment I'd make.
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I think we're great
And I think some of the “best” teams are going to be exposed as the season goes on.
That said, I probably place us at about #6. Say what you will about the Packers attitude, they are on fire. Ravens and Patriots are the best in the AFC, and I’m curious to see how the Chargers and Texans do down the stretch; I suspect San Diego has not played their best football yet.
In the NFC, I also think the Saints will right the ship, and the Falcons, if they can fix their pass rush, will be dangerous.
I wouldn’t put ALL of the above mentioned teams ahead of us, but while we’re doing well, I would prefer to still fly under the radar. I am curious to see how we do in the Harbaugh bowl, and I am GOING to the Monday night game against the Steelers.
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I want that game
to be a coming out party for Willis. I want him to have a dozen tackles, a forced fumble, and a pick six. Maybe a sack too.
Then, people will realize that the title of greatest linebacker in the NFL now wears a Red and Gold 52. I think a lot of people are starting to catch onto this- I want it etched in stone.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want
Willis to rush the field and blindside Ray Lewis. Show the old boss who the new boss is :)
that would also be
completely acceptable. And, Willis hasn’t been complicit in stabbing two people to death.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Niners' defense
- Rush Defense
- 3rd down defense
- Redzone defense
- in QB rating
- in Takeaways
- in Points per game
Thats why this team is a top 5 team so far, add in the fact that they are the 5th ranked rush offense & 7th in points scored
Damn, let me try that again
2nd ranked rush defense
4th ranked 3rd down defense
1st ranked Redzone defense
6th ranked in terms of Passer Rating
2nd ranked in Takeaways
2nd ranked in Points per game
I think that No. 6 is screwed up due to bye's and stuff.
We were either second or third I believe heading in to last week’s game with like 15.6 (or something like that) and we only gave up 19… I am not sure we are 6th if that is what you are saying.
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On offense, we are bottom of barrel when it comes to passing though...28th I believe.
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The team is 23rd in YPA and 28th in Yards per game but 6th in Passer Rating & 13th in Redzone Offense
The one issue that definitely needs to be worked on is the 3rd down offense where the team is 29th. That needs to be corrected during “improvement week”
I think the top 4 teams in the league disprove the whole "the passing game is ruining the NFL" argument.
On the one hand, you have Green Bay and New England, a pass first offense that generally relies on scoring and a passing attack to outscore your opponent. On the other, you have San Francisco and Baltimore, relying on a top 5 defense, a solid running game and a cautious but effective passing game to stay in the game and win through consistency. Both are valid ways to win games, and both still hold merit in the National Football League.
I hate to say it
and hate more that it’s true, but Baltimore’s passing game is starting to look more and more like a real NFL offense, not just one that relies on the run and their defense to win close games.
Their beatdown of the Steelers on opening day was quite the clinic in all three phases of the game.
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by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Same with the beatdown of the Buccaneers. Alex had a ridiculous yds/attempt that game.
But when the Niners and Ravens get down to a close game, they do tend to revert to a more classic offense that builds off of defensive success. The Ravens don’t rely on a big passing attack: they use it if it’s available and successful, but it’s not the central point of their offensive philosophy.
The Niners are also opening up the passing attack, although Detroit did an excellent job of shutting it down. Give it a few more weeks and a healthy Edwards, and we’ll be seeing an effective, balanced offense, much like the Ravens (but hopefully better).
It makes me very hopeful of the future
because of how unpolished this team is and yet they are 5-1 & ranked around 4 or 5 in most power polls. The Niners are the team that has to improve the most and yet they are ranked where they are
Yup
I want to see if their offense can use the bye week to gel a bit more, and get some of their timing a little more in sync. They haven’t looked bad, but thus far, they’ve scored when it counts, and relied on a strangling defense.
If we can get a solid aerial attack going (and I think we can by season’s end), we could end up being the real deal come January.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The one area where they need to improve is the 3rd down offense
they are 29th right now, if they even get that in the teens then you’ll see a vast improvement in the passing game and it will keep our defense fresher which will be needed for the 2nd half of the season.
Consistently winning the time of possession game is the sign of a competent/good offense
If FootballOutsiders is to be believed, 3rd down success is far less predictive than other stats.
It tends to balance out. I think we’ll see a lot more success on third downs.
But who needs third down success when Alex Smith is that CLUTCH on 4th downs??
I think that 3rd down success is different for each team
Teams that have a great passing game like the Packers, Chargers, Saints & Patriots are less dependent on 3rd down success because of the amount of yards that they can easily accumulate.
Offenses that are more run oriented or emphasize a shorter passing game are dependent on that success because they dont have that big play ability.
Obviously the Niners offense is more run oriented so it is dependent on being successful on 3rd downs so that they can stay on the field while wearing down the opposing defense
Our O-Line isn't top 5 material yet...
Too many penalties – don’t you think?
most of our penalties came from last game
and from what I remember most of the false starts were from the players in motion
OL is coming together
Which means we may start to see some 7 step drops, and deeper routes. And the WCO is predicated on precise footwork determining timing on routes, and that just requires a LOT of reps to become automatic. I don’t know if you can teach an old dog new tricks, but Alex may actually become a great QB with enough reps under Harbaugh. So our offense in Jan. may be a lot more explosive than what we’re seeing now. i would love to see a Niners/Ravens SB myself.
When's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
Each of the top 3 wideouts have been out at a point in time during the season so far especially with Joshua now being out for the season
MIchael seems to be finding his role in the offense and get more comfortable more and more each game and Braylon coming back for the last 10 games of the season. It will take him at least 2 games to get back completely and develop an on the field relationship with Alex. In late October/November I think the passing game could really come into its own, especially if the run game & the O-Line continues to work as it has the last 3 games then the passing lanes for Alex & the WR’s will be huge
Speaking of the OL
The 9ers released WR Kerry Taylor from the practice squad and signed C Chase Beeler to the unit according to 49ers,com
When's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
We have a very favorable matchup coming up against cleveland
30th rushing offense (81 yards/gm) vs. 2nd rushing defense (74 yards/gm)
27th rushing defense (129 yards/gm) vs. 5th rushing offense (131 yards/gm)
I think we know what to expect…
I hope that Coach Harbaugh and the staff preaches to the guys not to look pass this game
That Cleveland can be tough. I think its a game that they can definitely win but you never want a letdown against an opponent “you are suppose to beat”
Can't wait... once we have,
Galvatron (aka Braylon Edwards) back, I think we the OFF will match our D, Galvatron will be itching to produce as the Niners have a legitimate shot to make a run!
You know, I think those all have us too high.
Sometimes what these are supposed to measure is a little ambiguous. Clearly, if it’s about what you’ve done so far, then 5-1 teams have to go ahead of teams with more loses. But …
The Niners need to show they can win a shootout. Right now (and I say this as a huge Alex Smith defender over the years) what’s going to happen when we fall behind and can’t run our way out of it? Our secondary is still very suspect. We’re throwing a ton of short routes because our line is still struggling to protect Smith.
Packers, Pats, and Ravens clearly belong ahead of us, given the way they’re playing. But the Chargers, Saints, and Pittsburg might, too.
I think we might really struggle against the Bills, because we’d have to score a lot of points.
That being said, looking at all these teams make me think that the league is really weak right now. You can make an argument against almost every team:
The Patriots and Packers have no defense. Flacco doesn’t inspire much confidence. San Diego has struggled to beat some really bad teams. Saints have no defense and Brees seems not quite right.
I’m absolutely not ready to pencil in a win over the Giants yet. I think a lot of people are looking at the collapse against the Hawks and somehow holding it against both teams. They might be better than they’ve shown. Same with the Jets.
Or maybe it’s just a really weak year, this year, and being fifth doesn’t mean what it might have meant some other years.
You don't need to win a shootout
When your D stops a shootout. Lions has the potential to start a shootout. D didn’t let is happen.
And
when you have a run game that keeps the ball out of their hands.
We wouldn't struggle against the Bills
They have no D. We fell way behind to the Eagles.. what happened there?
I dunno.
I like the way the defense is developing, but we saw some truly horrid defense against Dallas. I’m not going to just forget that happened.
I love our front 7. I’m not at all sold on our secondary. Sometimes a front seven can mean your secondary doesn’t get tested.
But I wouldn’t count on that lasting all year.
Okay, one thing I want made perfectly clear:
The Chargers are not. a. good. team. They don’t really even belong in the top 15. They’ve played pretty much the easiest schedule in the league, and have struggled a lot. The one time they played a good opponent they got whipped. I don’t understand why people keep putting the Chargers so high. As soon as they meet a team like the Niners, the Ravens, Patriots, Lions, Saints, anyone good, you’ll see they’re just not that good.
I disagree.
The Chargers are always bad to start off the season, except this year they have managed to pull out W’s where they would usually lose in other years. They always get hot at the end of the season, and I tend to think they will do the same this year.
"We just feel more certain assurance of success when all that's written is written against us. When honey words of praise are flowered upon us that we begin to feel exposed before our enemies." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Except they won't make the playoffs this year
Takeo Spikes is on the team.
To the extent that I can feel sorry for a millionaire
I feel bad for TKO. I think this is the year he finally sees the post-season. Agree with SFKnights- for whatever reason, the Chargers tend to start slow, but they have too much talent, and Philip Rivers is WAY too competitive to not get them through Nov. and December mostly victorious.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Oct 19, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
The Chiefs took the division last year, and the Raiders swept the division as well.
And the Raiders are a much better team this year. The Chargers are on their way down, and close wins over bad teams are not an indicator of success. If they do make the playoffs, it will be by the skin of their teeth.
The Chargers were really good on offense and defense last year.
With largely the same players, minus a key injury or two (who they expect back), there’s no reason to think they won’t be really good again.
Their special teams are what kept they out of the playoffs last year, and their special teams are, so far, much improved. That gives them some real room to be worse on O and D and still improve as a team.
How many players have we injured?
Best – concussion
Blount-Leg
Romo- rib
Seahawks-?
by mrb24 on Oct 18, 2011 8:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Great move for the bengals!
Routing for Carson to do well;) go niners!
Love how are boys r lookin;)
by mrb24 on Oct 18, 2011 8:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm still wondering.
Why was Suh placed in the witness protection program last Sunday?
but then I have a reading problem...
by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 19, 2011 6:37 AM PDT reply actions

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