NFL Power Rankings, Week 8: 49ers Gaining Some Ground Following Solid First Six Games
by David Fucillo on Oct 25, 2011 10:00 AM PDT
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PrintNFL Power Rankings are being released across the Internet, and the 49er are either holding steady, or making a modest move following the Ravens loss to the Jaguars. In my personal NFL Power Rankings, I chose to bump them up one spot to No. 3. Some folks have elected to leapfrog the New Orleans Saints over the 49ers on the backs of their 62-7 drubbing of the Indianapolis Colts. I do think the point total is impressive, but given that it was the Colts, how much credit does it get? It's an impressive win, but it's still the Colts, who are battling the Miami Dolphins for the position of worst team in the NFL.
Joel Thorman over at SB Nation NFL actually moved the Saints all the way up to second from their previous seventh ranking. In the SB Nation NFL Power Rankings, Joel mentioned how the 49ers could very well get to 12 or 13 wins on the back of their remaining ten games. Rather than look ahead to that, I thought I'd look back at the schedule that was.
The combined record of the 49ers victories to date stands at 20-18. Seattle, Tampa Bay and Detroit all lost, Dallas won, and Cincinnati and Philadelphia were on a bye. While it is interesting to see the combined record of opponents, I don't think that is the most useful way to assess the team.
NFL teams ebb and flow over the course of the season and the final strength of schedule will not always accurately reflect the abilities of a given team at the time the 49ers played them. For example, the Buccaneers were 3-1 when they met the 49ers. They are not as bad as the team that was crushed 48-3, but they are inconsistent enough that it might cost them a playoff spot. On the other hand, the Philadelphia Eagles are 2-4 right now, but they might be bouncing back and they were playing the 49ers well prior to the second half collapse.
While this is not a matter of simply considering the 49ers in a vacuum, I don't know of a better way to assess their schedule. They beat a Bengals team that is currently 4-2, but I honestly can't tell you whether Cincinnati is a "good" team. Their best win is over the Buffalo Bills who also can be good, but can struggle on occasion. It's not as simple as looking at combined wins and losses.
Then you've got the 49ers win over the Lions, who seem to be heading into a tailspin now. Some will say that shows the Lions were not as good as some thought. Others can say the 49ers knocked them off their perch and sent them into the tailspin. I'll take the latter at this point.
All we know is that the 49ers are a good football team right now. And I suppose that is all that really matters.
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We're only as good as the game in which we're playing.
nothing else matters
We're as good as we play each week, no better, no worse.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 25, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Beat the Browns.
Please.
Matching the win total from the last year will make me happy.
Pro Bowl Ballot
The pro bowl ballot just came out on Nfl.com, how come Aldon Smith isn’t on that ballot? He’s got defensive rookie of the week twice and has better stats than a lot of those guys. Do you have to be listed as an official starter on your team to be eligible? Sorry, a little off-topic…
no problem
I just found out about it myself. Gonna have a post coming up on that nonsense.
by David Fucillo on Oct 25, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Do they have to have a certain amount of snaps to qualify?
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
not sure
Bruce Miller is on the fullback list.
by David Fucillo on Oct 25, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a trap!
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"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
I feel this is going to be like the Bucs game
Colt can be good, but he’ll struggle against our D, and Gore will gore them frequently for big runs. Edwards will have a 2-3 scores as well as a bow on the present.
1. packers
2. patriots
3. saints
4. 49ers
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions
seems about right
although i think we can beat the 2nd and 3rd team right now. number 4 vs 1 would be a great game
Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!
yeah looks about right to me as well
I’d put the Giants @ #5… the game nov 12 will be the next real benchmark game.
by sactownbull on Oct 25, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
WOW
after they got bamboozled by the sorry seahags at home… #5. You must be a closet (or not so closet) Giants fan.
We might see 4 vs. 1 in the NFC
Championship game…provided of course we both make it that far
& I dunno if NO leapfrogs us simply because they murdered a Peyton-less Indy in the bayou. They did lose to Tampa @ Tampa who WE blew out in Candlestick & the Bucc’s are better than the colts…whatever though
Guess that only means we need more statement games like Tampa…
by Doni S on Oct 25, 2011 12:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
nothing else matters
I dont care what the power rankings are. If “expert” analysts still wanna doubt the niners, let them, it dont bother me, as for Harbaugh, im sure its fuel for the fire
by sundaysfinest on Oct 25, 2011 11:05 AM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
pft had the niners at three or four. WOW.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 25, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
also, lol at ESPN’s rankings. rest of the NFC west at 26, 29, and 30. pathetic.
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
Anyone watching the T.O. workouts?
I say the raiders might sign him if Palmer says it is ok.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
I'd say Rams sign him
Lloyd and TO would cap off the perfect losing season
The Browns
What Rookie Linebacker Is Second Of All Linebackers In Sacks With 5.5, A Forced Fumble, And A Safety - All On Limited Playing Time?
dude say what you want about T.O.
This guy is ripped, watching it right now, so far knee looks ok
by sundaysfinest on Oct 25, 2011 11:37 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
OK I will
I absoltutely do not want a diva like TO on this team first team right now. He might make some plays, but his disruption in the locker room is not worth it. I loved how Harbaugh dissed the workout… “I don’t know anything about that”. LOVE IT. We have talent and need guys that are going to pull in the right direction. TO burned this bridge and I hope we have no desire to rebuild it. He can stay lost out there somewhere else!
i never said that i want him back as a niner
I just stated that he looks in good shape
by sundaysfinest on Oct 25, 2011 11:43 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
announcer saying that there is a visible difference between the two. he looks winded though.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 25, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
not 1 nfl team showed up
by sundaysfinest on Oct 25, 2011 12:01 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
nobody wants a cancer on their team
or the circus drama that would come w/his signing
I for 1 am not surprised that nobody showed…
by Doni S on Oct 25, 2011 12:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Let's get this started?
SLam49ers I just saw MC Hammer right outside the 49ers headquarters. Wonder what he’s up to…
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
He must be security. Dont want Frederick P. Soft running rampant around the locker room
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
by EcERyda69 on Oct 25, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice lol
That album was the first cassette tape that I ever had.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
talked to the rookies
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
Follow @manraj76
When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
i think he is friends with jed york
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
If you trace the butt-kickings that led to the Saints - Colts game
It leads straight back to San Fransisco.
Sunday October 9, 2011, the 49ers teach the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that they were playing the game all wrong. Result: SF 48 – TB 3
Sunday October 16, 2011, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers take everything they’ve learned from the 49ers about playing football, mix it with a little anger from being beat so bad in San Fransisco, and use it to show the Saints some new tricks. Result: TB 26 – NO 20
Sunday October 23, 2011, the New Orleans Saints, having got a glimpse of how the game should be played, welcome the Indianapolis Colts to the Superdome. After taking a beating in Tampa the Saints are convinced they need to step up their game against the Colts, who are absolutely dumbstruck at the onslaught unleased at their expense. The Saints do it Harbaugh style and keep scoring until the clock runs out.
Result: NO 62 – IND 7
It looks like the NFL is starting to get the 49ers Memo. You guys better start playing football, and if you go easy on anyone you’re going to get beat. Look for the rest of the season to be just as challenging as the first six games. (not counting the Bucs)
What Rookie Linebacker Is Second Of All Linebackers In Sacks With 5.5, A Forced Fumble, And A Safety - All On Limited Playing Time?
by Pat Willie on Oct 25, 2011 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
you saying that the colts are winning next week?
by sundaysfinest on Oct 25, 2011 11:57 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
No, the Colts are going to Tennessee
The Titans got the same style of butt whooping from Houston last weekend, and at home. It’s not going to be pretty for the Colts. It’ll probably be a better game than you’d think though. Unless the Colts are just completely demoralized at this point.
The Colts have to get out from under Peyton Manning’s shadow. I’m starting to think Peyton is the best football player of all time. Has he been carrying this team to the playoffs by himself for all these years? It’s hard for me to believe that, so I think the Colts have to bury the memory of Payton, retire his number, and move on.
What Rookie Linebacker Is Second Of All Linebackers In Sacks With 5.5, A Forced Fumble, And A Safety - All On Limited Playing Time?
Even if Indy drafts Luck and part ways w/Peyton, that’s not gonna solve much of anything for them. Their o-line needs fixing too…point in fact, St. Louis~Bradford.
yes, it’s true, Peyton has carried their team & his quick-release has had a lot to do w/concealing as much.
So unless Luck is as fast as Peyton delivering the pass (i don’t think he is), Indy has some rebuilding to do
Unless Luck is as fast as Peyt
by Doni S on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
peyton masked the oline and the defense played hard with peyton at qb because they had a chance to win.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 25, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think
that Harbaugh is the kinda guy that will let his team show up complacent to any game. Against a strong opponent he will be focused on that win. Against a weak opponent, he’ll be looking for a massacre. Intensity always.
As to our record… after watching Baltimore put on a painful presentation of their weak spots…. there’s not a team left on our schedule that is not beatable if we show up with our A game and remain healthy enough.
CSN reports
#49ers return after the bye week determined to “make it suck”: work extra hard during the week, game is easier as Donte Whitner explains
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
after watching this weekends crapfest of games
The Niners should go 15-1. Wont happen most likely, but all things equal and barring a let down or over look, the only team left that poses a true challenge are the Steelers. Im sure the Ravens will look better (would almost have to) and the schizophrenic Giants if the right personality shows up will both be good games. The rest really are on the Niners not to lose at this point. Makes me think of the good ole days, but the loses are always that much more painful.
should be the bi-polar Giants.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 25, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I was thinking...
During the “good old days” a loss was very hard to take. A last minute loss was painful. I still can’t watch the Craig fumble against the Giants. Losses this year will hurt – - – a lot. We expect the Niners to be in every game now, just like back in the day. The players and coaches are likable. Losing will be much hard to take. Better buy some Sominex, folks.
my new ridge-regressed ranking have SF #2
http://thecity2.com/2011/10/25/ridge-regressed-nfl-ratings-through-week-7/
(for entertainment purposes only, as they say)
RANK TEAM RATING
1 Green.Bay 5.75
2 San.Francisco 5.66
3 New.Orleans 5.42
4 Baltimore 5.08
5 New.England 3.95
6 Detroit 3.64
7 Houston 3.49
8 Buffalo 3.27
9 Dallas 2.07
10 Chicago 1.69
11 Pittsburgh 1.62
12 Cincinnati 1.45
13 New.York.Jets 1.24
14 Philadelphia 0.61
15 Atlanta 0.33
16 San.Diego -0.13
17 New.York.Giants -0.21
18 Washington -0.74
19 Carolina -0.97
20 Oakland -1.26
21 Tennessee -1.69
22 Seattle -1.77
23 Minnesota -2.12
24 Denver -2.48
25 Tampa.Bay -2.79
26 Jacksonville -3.09
27 Arizona -3.18
28 Kansas.City -3.20
29 Cleveland -3.50
30 Miami -4.13
31 Indianapolis -7.15
32 St..Louis -7.92
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Using Jeff Sagarin's Ratings
I make the Niners 21 point favorites against Cleveland.
Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
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