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49ers Get Some Good Fortune: Braylon Edwards Returns, Browns on the Horizon

The San Francisco 49ers (5-1) are off to a hot start in 2011, and things are only looking up as they are coming off their bye week. Not only did all of their NFC West bedfellows lose their respective games in week 7, but San Francisco is getting healthier. After only seeing limited action early in the season, wide receiver Braylon Edwards is returning to full participation today.

After Edwards went down in the 49ers only loss of the season against Dallas, San Francisco has been on a 4-game win streak against competitive teams. In week 8, San Francisco will face the Cleveland Browns who have been struggling to do anything right. While they did manage to squeeze out a 6-3 win over the Seahawks, Cleveland may find themselves getting roughed up by a rested 49er squad.

Cleveland is without their breakout star from 2010, Peyton Hillis, who will be replaced by running back Montario Hardesty. It's worth noting that that the 49ers are still the only team in the league that is yet to allow a rushing touchdown, while also maintaining a 28-game streak for having not allowed a 100-yard rusher. In addition to their problems running the ball, Cleveland will sure have some issues stopping the run.

The return of Braylon Edwards is going to make it difficult for teams to put 8 or 9 men in the box against Frank Gore. Gore, who turned a slow start into a Pro Bowl pace, needs less than a hundred yards 110 yards to become the 49ers all-time leading #2 career rusher -- a record he's got a good chance to take at home against Cleveland. The Browns are currently sitting at 3-3 under new head coach Pat Shurmur but from a broad view, they don't have the tools necessary to take down the Niners.

The Niners motto has revolved around staying humble, and after 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh no doubt watched his brother John lose to a lesser opponent in Jacksonville on Monday Night Football, San Francisco will be sure to avoid any surprises.

The 49ers' Harbaugh will have had two weeks to look at Cleveland, and has already shown himself to be a great gameplanner. If all is normal in the NFL that day, San Francisco should find themselves in total control of the NFC West at 6-1, looking to improve at Washington in week 9.

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How do you think Braylon will fare? Do you forsee utilization in #1 or #2 role?

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 4:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Braylon will be used in whatever way matches up best against Cleveland.

And I believe the Niners are the better team and I also think that we may see Kaep by the 3rd qtr doing mop-up..

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the Browns stunk pretty bad last week

I agree that Kaepernick (note: iPhone has learned to auto-fill it, awesome) will be in there to so some serious mop up duty pretty quickly.

I have a strange feeling that the Browns run game will prove completely ineffective and Colt McCoy will end up struggling on the wrong side of 50% completion

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 5:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This may be true. However, Seattle’s “Field Gulls” posters thought the exact same thing. They were excited at the huge step Charlie Whitehurst was going to make and looking forward to him the rest of the year.

Their blog has 3 or 4 new articles featuring a “Draft Outlook” featuring quarterbacks.

But yall are no Searats.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember you!

I’ve been reading Dawgs by Nature over this last week. I didn’t mean to sound quite as cocky as it came off. But last weeks Browns/Seachickens game was the absolute worst offensive performance I think I’ve witnessed.

I can’t speak too highly of how 49ers offense will fare against Browns D, but I’d be shocked if 49ers D didn’t put on a clinic on Sunday.

One more thing, congrats on beating Seattle. I don’t like them much.

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 6:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well I hope our win over Seattle helps you guys in the division. I really don’t foresee the Browns dominating any faction of this game. Perhaps passing D? Joe Haden is probably the best player at his position on this team… after Joe Thomas, of course.

I hope for a competitive game, that’s it really.

Ted Ginn should have fun! Damn Brad Seely

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think he'll just come in for about 20 or so plays this week so that Harbaugh can bring him in slowly.

then give him 30-40 reps next week, and if he continues to make plays and stays healthy, he can be a full time starter at 1 or 2 based on the matchups.

by tonedru on Oct 25, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And so it begins...

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 5:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

They would be wise to do so in Cleveland.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a $1.9 million contract this year

And is 7/23 in receptions this season. He had 28 catches last year.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

absolutely ZERO interest in bringing him in...

as mentioned earlier, if you suck at the vikings, then you’re pretty much useless to anyone who wants to win anything. time to get a real job like the rest of us, bernard….

by ratumike on Oct 25, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Gore/Hunter duo continues to run

I just traded away andre Johnson for Gore so hope the Niners rushing game continues to produce both wins and fantasy points.

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by CheekyMonkey on Oct 25, 2011 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Browns are 3-3

But, their three wins have come by a total of 11 points against teams with a combined 3-17 record (Miami, Indianapolis and Seattle)

I don’t see this game being close by halftime, too many variables working against the Browns. First, they cannot stop the run and the 49ers have been dynamic in that aspect since Bruce Miller took over for Moran Norris as the lead blocker. Secondly, they have absolutely no down field passing threats, which enables San Francisco to pit the middle of the field within ten yards with the likes of Willis and Bowman. If Colt McCoy is forced to pass the ball 40-50 times, which will be the case: there will be multiple forced turnovers.

38-6 San Francisco!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 25, 2011 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

2-17

Seattle has two wins, Indy and Miami both have zero.

by ZivilynBane on Oct 25, 2011 5:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

wow, you think they can score six points? lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

a note of caution

Look what just happend to the Ravens. This league is way too close to ever be able to count on an easy win. I just hope the 49ers aren’t over confident.

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by CheekyMonkey on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

the ravens offense has been shut down a few times this year already

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with most of this

Can anyone forsee that if the Browns try to stop our run game ( not likely), then does that not open up our passing game? Also not likely! Hence, we will see Kaepernick in the 4th quarter because we all know that JH will not allow any possibility of our team taking a knee before it’s a known win! Anyones thoughts? And Braylon will have a huge game, IMHO! Go NINERS! 45-10!

Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!

by 23mjheart on Oct 25, 2011 5:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Not so fast people, teams coming off bi weeks have not fared very well . Just look at the Ravens Monday night. Game may be closer than you think, Niners could start out sluggish,flat, still think they win, just might be closer then people think.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Oct 25, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Not so fast people, teams coming off bi weeks have not fared very well

How about teams coming off of straight or gay weeks?

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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm not going to say anything

About anyone choking or sucking.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could say Flaco was coming off a ‘Bi-Curious’ week, as he seemed to be playing the whole game with a butt plug firmly inserted.

Ray Rice ruined my fantasy team too.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ravens were not coming off a bye… I don’t expect you guys to struggle because of this, though. I’m concerned with Frank Gore and your tight ends. Oh, and Ted Ginn… Oh, and the rest of the team.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anything can happen, including the Browns winning.

If the 49ers are the team I think they are, they will win by at least 3 TD.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Quit*

Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!

by 23mjheart on Oct 25, 2011 6:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Quit*

Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!

by 23mjheart on Oct 25, 2011 6:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Artho for torn meniscus

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Braylon myself

But not going to root against anyone.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will… Braylon is a cow handed, big mouthed, cock smoking head case. Just sayin…

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's quite possible.

Kinda like beef jerky but chicken style.

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NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

He’s trying to insult Braylon by saying that he’s better at creating delicious chicken jerky than he is catching the ball

by E-Train on Oct 25, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does make sense,

since he did start by saying

Braylon is a cow handed,

Cows and chickens are related. Both animals on a farm that more often than not, wind up as food on a menu. Cows → Beef jerky Chickens → Chicken jerky! I will testify on your behalf at your NN’s alleged inappropriate behavior trial.

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are screwed your peers on NN are not sane.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner

When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.

by manraj7 on Oct 25, 2011 6:52 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Totally agree! Be polite people!

Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!

by 23mjheart on Oct 25, 2011 6:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

ha ha! (my finger is pointed at you)

you got in trouble for something a guest did, and can’t be reprimanded for!

by reedkrase on Oct 25, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHA!

Just like in sport fights, it’s the guy who retaliates that usually gets caught! :P

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must watch far too much ESPN…

by Virginia9er on Oct 25, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a Browns fan,

you can understand why he isn’t the biggest fan of Braylon :)

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I know

I was hoping he’d at least bring some rationality to the discussion though…naive of me for sure.

by Virginia9er on Oct 25, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, no offense to your team at all, you guys are solid.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, sorry for the swearing!

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's plenty rational

Seems like a nice guy. Personally, I don’t mind if he vents a little about BrayBray.

Localman… Tell me more about Braylon… How did he leave Cleveland? Free agency? I don’t remember, so fill me in

Harbaughcalypse Now

by dutra on Oct 25, 2011 9:24 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

God, seems like forever ago he was here now…
Everyone was really excited about him at first, really looking forward to him being that number 1 guy. Great pick. Gets off to a great start as a rook, then blows his knee out. sucks. (right around the time Winslow is blowing his knee out riding a motorcycle)

Then the drops… drops, drops drops. He starts becoming a diva around town, getting in the news for all the wrong reasons. And that’s when he starts the whole “Everyone in Ohio hates me because I’m from Michigan”…NO, it’s because he you have cow hands!!!!! we say.

Then in 2009, while out at a bar, he punches one of LeBron’s boyfriends in the face and Mangini trades him to the Jets for Chansi Stucky and Jason Trusnik and a draft pick (this pick escapes me right now… I’ll update)

In between all of this he talked lots of crap. Every interview was about him… he was a classic diva. To his credit, he did donate some major cash to some schools around here.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The picks were a 3rd and a 5th in the 2010 draft. We picked Colt McCoy and OG Shaun Lauvao in the third round. I think we traded the 5th.

Stucky and Trusnik are gone, Colt is obviously starting and Lauvao was starting until he got hurt last week. So, ehh….

But Edwards was so out of flavor here at the time, we probably would have traded him for a gift card to Olive Garden.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't punching Lebron's friend a good thing?

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 26, 2011 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not at the time. He still ruled Cleveland at that point.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 26, 2011 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

you positive

It wasn’t a first rounder? IiRC you guys were coming off that ~10 win season where kellen guaranteed playoffs but ya lost last game of the season and braylon was huge with around 80 catches and a whole buncja big plays. I thought when he was traded midseason it was for a 1 or 2. I’ve taken the jets as my number 2 team since I was 12 and the garrison Hearst 96 yard run in OT and I follow them a decent amount considering where I live. But alas you probably looked it up. Not as bad a trade forthwith jets as I originally thought.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Oct 26, 2011 4:40 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah I looked it up… I’m not positive about what we did in the 5th round that year. I have a feeling we moved that pick, though.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 26, 2011 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent grasp of effectively ...adjectivizing... the insults

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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 6:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Neither are true #1s, but they don't need to be.

Edwards Walker Davis Crabtree is plenty

The problem at the moment is more that the 49ers are unable to really spread out the defense, they play tight to the vest to both assist in the run and to assist in the pass protection. The safeties and corners play up, the ball still has to be out fast..

Problem isn’t the targets, it’s getting to the point with the offensive line, with alex, and with the timing that they can spread the defense out.

by whistlingmountain on Oct 25, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

does it matter and who cares?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The two teams are equally loaded on Alex Smiths

Looks like the ex-Stanford tight end has a one-year contract with the Browns. Hopefully there will be no Colt McCoy-Alex Smith connection.

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 25, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

True.

But who knows how this 6’4" / 258 lb guy would have done under Harbaugh’s tutelage. We would have had Alex Smith to Alex Smith connection!

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 25, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

would've been great

especially if they would have picked up alfonso smith as an RB. Our offense could have had three A. Smith jerseys out there, a trifecta of average.

by reedkrase on Oct 25, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

I hope there are a few McCoy-Smith connections this weekend. Provided it is Reggie, Aldon, or Justin on the Smith end…

by Virginia9er on Oct 25, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hope Braylon is really 100%

There’s no need to rush him back even if he’s almost fully healed when we are 5-1 and playing the Browns.

by E-Train on Oct 25, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m sure he has had plenty of time off to coat his hands in generous amounts of butter. Good to go.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Generous amounts of butter?

Who’s he been hanging out with? Paula Dean?

by E-Train on Oct 25, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Believe that he is!

He’s waited a long time to contribute to this team, for many reasons I believe! Pick your own for that as well as for the rest of the FAs that want to renegotiate with us NINERS now! Must be a few reasons, right? And reedcase, please keep these people in line! Tyvm!

Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!

by 23mjheart on Oct 25, 2011 6:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If C.Johnson- D.Bryant-M.Wallace are big play (A) graded WR's.....

How do Edwards and Crabtree compare to them on a grade scale of A to F?

by BigMar on Oct 25, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Tentatively...

Edwards – TBD
Crabs – B minus

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 6:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am really excited to have Braylon back

But in this game.. Cleveland has an average run defense and a great pass defense. There are going to be a ton of short passes and runs.

by whistlingmountain on Oct 25, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

You guys won’t be able to pass to whoever it is Joe Haden is covering, I see Sheldon Brown being picked on all game. This is what most teams have planned against us this year.

You can also fool TJ Ward pretty easily. He gets sucked in by play actions and leaves the backfield open sometimes. But he can lay the wood as well.

Usama Young is hit or miss.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usama Young is a goofy looking dude

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 6:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

May I ask then who will

Cover Vernon, Delanie, Frank, Kendall let alone the other options we have available? Just curious?

Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!

by 23mjheart on Oct 25, 2011 6:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Joe Thomas. All at once

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

All praise be to 73.

My glass is always half full, b*tch

by The Licensed Optimist on Oct 26, 2011 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Braylon is a plus in run blocking as well

That’s one thing Jets fans were happy about, and if the Browns run defense is suspect, well, he fits right in.

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by Rabbit T on Oct 26, 2011 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

thinking out loud

i’m optimistic that the alex/braylon connection will be back on track relatively quickly. they seemed to have pretty immediate chemistry this offseason. meanwhile, the OL has come together and are protecting better than they were in weeks 1 and 2.

of course, there’s a pretty good chance that braylon is carefully re-introduced to the offense. and against the browns, now’s the best time to cook up a heavy dose of Vernon/Delanie and the run game.

by t p on Oct 25, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

besides the running game

I think crabtree will benefit the most from edwards’ return

by sundaysfinest on Oct 25, 2011 6:45 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I see a lot of cockiness in this thread.

While I think we can beat the Browns and will, I’m hoping we aren’t setting ourselves up for disappointment. We’re facing a pretty good D. Also, New England last year anyone? Just sayin’.

by madmatt on Oct 25, 2011 6:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't mean to be negative nancy btw.

I’m just not going to predict and expect a blowout like some are.

by madmatt on Oct 25, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No you aren't a Negative Nancy,

you’re more of a Debbie Downer :)

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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's cool.

She’s way hotter than Nancy.

by madmatt on Oct 25, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re on notice that Freddy P. Soft is to be kicked in the sack any time he shows his smoked-chicken-making face anywhere near this team.

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 7:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If you are going to be a dominant team

Then you have to be able to dominate teams you should dominate. I don’t consider 21 points a “blow-out” all things considered. And I said the Browns could win, and they can. But I certainly expect the Niners to play hard and win convincingly.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with most of this.

I guess I’ve become somewhat shell shocked over the last 9 years and don’t want to set myself up for disappointment. I know Harbaugh is 10 times better (at least) than any coach we’ve had in that time, and this team is for real, but every opponent needs to be taken very seriously and anything can happen.

I do however disagree and think three touchdowns is a blow-out.

by madmatt on Oct 25, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we aren't on the team

Anything we say has zero affect on the outcome of the game…I certainly hope the team isn’t over confident, but fans can be if they want.

But any given Sunday.

by Virginia9er on Oct 25, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

If we were on the team. I wouldn’t feel so confident. Even with our coaches.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 25, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

the weasels

took a break in the 2nd half…thinking a 20 pt. lead would hold up. Looking back, I think that was a set-up because then we scored 21 straight unanswered points

Jim Harbaugh is not Andy Reid and he absolutely will not let our team relax even if we have a sizable lead going into 1/2 time

by Doni S on Oct 26, 2011 10:13 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I realize that we aren't on the team.

It just seems like I’m reading an Eagles thread from a few weeks ago.

Like you said, “any given Sunday.”

by madmatt on Oct 25, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's ok for us fans to be cocky...

As long as the team remains humble.

by ZivilynBane on Oct 25, 2011 7:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

See Pride of Detroit

Week 6

"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews

by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 7:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Try living next to Shitsburgh. You’ll get tired of people acting cocky real quick.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re OK there, guy.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 26, 2011 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joe (freak'en) Thomas!

The Browns 6-6 / 315 lb All World Left Tackle.

It will be very interesting to see if any 9er can beat this animal.

by BigMar on Oct 25, 2011 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually thats the matchup of the week!

I’m looking forward to seeing Joe Thomas vs Justin Smith. But even if joe thomas wins the battle, our OLBs are still gonna make colt mccoy cry

by mazonmafia on Oct 25, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The very notion that you see any possibility of anyone ever beating Joe Thomas in anything has doomed you. Put your affairs in order and choose between Log Cabin or Aunt Jemima, please.

My glass is always half full, b*tch

by The Licensed Optimist on Oct 26, 2011 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hardesty

Don’t think we can sleep on Hardesty. He’s a solid Rb who can pass catch out of the back or bounce to the outside on runs. I’d be happier facing Hillis. If Shurmur can get any consistency out of the right side of his Oline we could have a tough game.

by Mukkeluk on Oct 25, 2011 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

is it just me or...

WHAT 8-9 man fronts has Gore been facing? Not many.

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by zenbitz on Oct 25, 2011 8:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

The Browns have a solid defense

granted young defenses tend to play better at home when they have the crowd behind them but they still have the ability to give any team trouble, they are a top 10 defense statistically. They have really nothing to play for because almost every one is counting them out. Can’t get too confident. Best thing to do to a young offense to make them one dimensional, that is what we do best. Joe Thomas is a great Left Tackle so it might be tough for Aldon to get going so I hope that McDonald & Brooks can get some serious pressure from the right side.

I hope Niners fans show up in numbers and make it impossible for their offense to get on track.

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

solid but they can not stop the run?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cleveland we attempt to make Alex beat them by....

doing all they can to stop Gore.

Like a majority of the NFL teams out there, they are going to try and force Alex to beat them by mainly game planning to stop Gore first.

by BigMar on Oct 25, 2011 8:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Very true but the difference between the Browns and the Niners

is that the Niners have some serious veteran leadership while the Browns are young in key spots.

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is an excellent point. Also, we have 3 key veterans questionable in Mo Mass, Ben Watson and Scott Fujita. boooooooooooooooooooooo

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by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Hell i’m a fan of Colt McCoy, I was on your guys’ site and I saw alot of negative comments about Colt’s play and it bothers me because not enough is said about how Hillis has let you guys down.

A young QB’s best friend is a good running game and Payton has the ability to be a really good back in this league and yet he is stuck in that contract mess with the Front Office and that has hindered Colt from developing, too much has been put on his shoulders.

Give him another offseason so that he can take really learn that playbook and get him another weapon (Blackmon, Jeffery or Floyd) and he can be a good QB in this league

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot that goes into it. Colt is an easy target… but you must understand how hostile and sensitive people are about perpetual QB issue in Cleveland. We haven’t had a quality QB since Bernie Kosar.

Some people are quick to bite your head off, or accuse you of drinking koolaid if you show any sign of optimism about Colt (or the team for that matter). It can get annoying, but comes with the territory. I think it stems from Cleveland living and dying with this team every year, which is a good thing after all. We are a football city, always will be.

I think the reality of the situation is that Colt is struggling and the team is very unimpressive, even in their wins. I’m not sold on him yet, but want to see him play out the season, then see what happens in the draft. He’s a smart young player that has a lot to improve on. But so do all the players and coaches.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think because they have moved to a WCO like the Niners that it is all about timing

and you need as many reps as you can with the receivers. I think in year 2 with the same targets and more knowledge of the offense that he can make a move in the positive direction

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so. How long have you guys given Smith? 4 years? Seems to be working out now. So far.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He needed a coach that understood what his strengths were and gameplan for that

he has never had that in a HC and we are starting to see what he can do if put in the right position. I hope Colt never has to go through what Alex did, so its good that he has stability at an early stage in his career and will develop in the WCO which is the perfect system for his abilities

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did someone say optimism?

My glass is always half full, b*tch

by The Licensed Optimist on Oct 26, 2011 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know you guys have a nice O line so I’m looking forward to watching our D line match up. They’ve gotten to every QB except Hasselbeck (Tenn O line is awesome). Watch out for Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard and Ahtyba Rubin.

How is Alex Smith when he gets rushed from the pocket? Does he tend to find the open guy down field? Scramble for yards? Run in circles?

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 9:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I have read he has one of the highest qb ratings vs the blitz

But he has taken a lot of sacks… The o line has gotten much better since the first few weeks tho.

by mazonmafia on Oct 25, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Browns had a great draft last year

especially how you guys got so many picks and still were able to bring in so many talented players.

The Browns D-Line will test our O-Line

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we all hope Atlanta tanks since we got their pick for Julio Jones. We would love to have Jones, but we weren’t gonna do boo this season so it was a big move for the future. I personally would want a Justin Blackmon over a Jones any day…

So I keep up hopes that Matt Ryan gets trapped in a well and misses the rest of the season.

Who did you guys draft this year? I know you got Collin Kapernick.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Oct 25, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our top 3 choices were

Aldon Smith in the 1st
Kaepernick in the 2nd
Chris Culliver in the 3rd

by Lok on Oct 25, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dylan, I really like your posts, and this is not a criticism, but a question...

…about your comment that Frank Gore “needs less than a hundred yards to become the 49ers all-time leading rusher — a record he’s got a good chance to take at home against Cleveland”.

I’d like to know what you use as your source for such statistics. I thought Frank had another season and a half or so to go before he reached that level, so I checked my statistics source [Pro-Football-Reference.com]. According to it, through and including the Detroit game, Frank is currently our #3 all-time rusher @ 6955 yards, and needs 110 yards to pass Roger Craig and become our #2 all time, but he still needs 1,735 to pass Hall-of-Famer #34 Joe “The Jet” Perry and become the franchise’s #1 all-time leading ball carrier.

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Oct 25, 2011 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

2nd leading rusher

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 26, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

yards are yards

fullback, runningback, tailback who cares

by mrg80 on Oct 26, 2011 3:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Frank would be the #1 running back

As Perry was a fullback. Maybe that’s what he meant to say.

Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?

by whatsURdeal on Oct 26, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Token subject line useage

I think one of the biggest knocks on Singletary was that he put too many expectations on Smith. If the Browns can stop Gore, Haden will blanket either Crabtree or Braylon, and our D-line will pressure Smith into (hopefully) making some quick, not-so-great decisions.

My glass is always half full, b*tch

by The Licensed Optimist on Oct 26, 2011 1:19 AM PDT reply actions  

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