Carlos Rogers, Agent Ready To Work Out Contract Extension With 49ers
by David Fucillo on Oct 25, 2011 2:41 PM PDT
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Matt Maiocco is reporting that cornerback Carlos Rogers has given his agent the OK to try and work out a contract extension with the 49ers. Rogers signed a one-year contract with the 49ers and is off to the best start of his career. He has a career high three interceptions and has become arguably a lockdown cornerback this season. Simply put, through six games, he has exceeded most of our expectations.
The fact that he has publicly OK'd working on a contract extension is fairly big news. He is putting together the best season of his career and could easily cash in through free agency next March. With a normal offseason calendar in place for next season, he would be in line for some monster offers. He indicated he wanted to stick around in San Francisco moving forward and this action would strongly indicate it is more than the usual cliched BS.
As the team moves forward, it will be interesting to see how this coaching staff and the team's turnaround will impact free agency. Aside from re-signing the team's current free agents, one has to think the 49ers are on their way to becoming a big destination moving forward. That is one benefit of the new coaching staff that we have not really discussed to date. The current season is what matters, but looking into the future, free agency could get really interesting at 4949 Centennial Boulevard.
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Big news
49ers need to make a push to re-sign him before the off-season because as you said, he will demand a huge payday. I was one of the few that indicated Rogers would be a MAJOR upgrade in pass defense over Nate Clements. And, it looks like he is living up to that expectation.
I understand the 49ers will probably be a big destination for free agents in the future. However, they need to be smart about it: only using free agency to fill certain holes. You don’t want to see them turn into Washington West. I think Baalke and Harbaugh understand that and will want to build through the draft and supplement via free agency.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 25, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions
This is a fantastic gauge of how the players feel about the direction of this team.
Come on, Alex, please be good this year..
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If it's true
it’s a BIG vote of confidence in where this team is headed.
“Something’s brewing here…”
Extend the man
Harbaugh turned his stone hands into ball hawking hands… now he is an above average corner. He always had the physical ability, just not the hands.
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Fo has been looking good recently! Sign the man to make him happy but 49 er friendly so if he doesn’t produce then by by via Nate.
Cully is looking good and with maybe a new corner out of the draft our secondary just grew since last year.
by mrb24 on Oct 25, 2011 2:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
inb4 nate clements 2
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions
Better player...
But I hope they learned their lesson on the contract thing.
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No way they give him that kind of contract.
Come on, Alex, please be good this year..
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Sign him - The best we've seen in years!
He and Whitner have really helped solidify our past porous secondary. Lock him up now, so next year we can repeat as NFC West (maybe SB champs!)
I dont see a Nate Clements part II
looking into the future and the more and more the 49ers are considered contenders the more team friendly contracts we will beable to ink. Now we just gotta keep pushing and winning to continue to be considered an “elite” club!!!
by Frisco_Kid on Oct 25, 2011 3:14 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Extend him
I read on Pro Football Focus (In one of their tweets) That they had Carlos Rodgers as the top ranked Corner going into week 3. I couldn’t find their rankings on the site, but coming from them it’s gotta be a big deal right?
Rogers has been great this season. Just look at the Redskins this year. Losing Rogers has impacted how Hall, and the secondary have played
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I wouldn’t say it’s a “big deal” but it’s one more measurement of how well he’s playing. I’m fine with their basic counting stuff, but question their ratings system a bit. Some questions about how they judge certain plays. But he is having an awesome year.
by David Fucillo on Oct 25, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Sign him Now!
Shut down corners, left tackles and QB’s are hard to come buy. If you find them, never let them go!
by Andrew Hutchinson on Oct 25, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions
are hard to come buy
HAHA I GET IT
THAT WAS A GOOD ONE
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
that was good
cause this is gonna get expensive . . . the real question is whether his signing bonus will count towards this year’s cap or next year’s
Do not re-sign him unless you can get out after next season, free and clear.
I would rather not keep this guy. I re-watched the niners lions game, he has a poor effort vs the run and he isn’t great playing zone out of the nickel defense. He did surrender the touchdown in OT vs the Cowboys on a play in which a vet at his age should never make. I’d rather we didn’t keep him past another season.
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you must be watching a different set of tape than every other person
He has been outstanding for us after the first couple of games, and those first games were a result of the team not understanding the scheme.
Come on, Alex, please be good this year..
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hmmm..
with limited time to learn a new scheme, as with the whole defense, i’d say he’s performed above expectations. everyone has made mistakes on this defense, but he’s done alot for us in terms of turnovers. he’s worth an extension. but i’m sure we’ll draft a CB next off-season.
that wasn't man vs. the cowboys.
Rogers had the deep zone. The safety is the one that keys the run in that coverage. There must have been confusion on the coverage, or the play action just fooled him. Either way even vets make mistakes and save for that play he’s been really good (as evidenced by pretty much everyone, including national media as well as advanced statistics sites rating him highly)
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I know what he was in vs the Cowboys, but what's hard about cover 4?
Is it any different than another team’s cover 4, especially right after the snap? You’re talking about resigning him how long? Being as this comment was not directed at your post, whether you made one or not, but please, fill me in. Why invest more than one more season in him?
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Lions game was his worst so far
other than that he’s been solid. I’d sign him about week 11 or 12 to a 3 year if possible.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Nope... That guy only made it to the 2 yard line... Try again...
Just kidding, but seriously, he’s our only above average corner… What do we gain by letting him go?
Do we really have another option in place? You make it sound like he’s been trash, which just isn’t true… But you don’t want to get worse before you get better… It’s best to make consistent upward trend, replacing talent with more talent…
Otherwise you get the last decade… blech…
I don't think the 49ers run game is really struggling at the moment.
I think coverage ability is a little bit more important coming from the cornerback position.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 25, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
*run defense
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 25, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Spoiled by Clements' excellent run support...
That’s just not a play most corners make… He’s making plays in deep coverage that Clements just wasn’t though, and I will take that trade off every day…
The most important thing about this is ---
This shows that players love being on the team, which is really important. The guys love the coaching staff and love the atmosphere.
Pretty different from last year when Michael Lewis for example left the team for no reason. Completely different team.
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Lewis probably left because of Mays
he was like “I lost my job to THIS guy?”
by brundylop on Oct 25, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha might be
That might have really pissed him off
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 5:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
no,
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Sign Him
And draft one. Great news that he wants to stick around. Probably because we believed in him when no one else did.
I am a fan of this idea
Sign him to a 3 to 4 year extension and draft a player you can groom. A la Chris Culliver, He is a huge upgrade over what the team had the last few years from a coverage standpoint but also build the rest of the secondary so that it makes him that much better and lengthens how long he is effective for
That's probably not an option. He knows he can get paid at the end of the season.
So he’ll want more years. Two is definitely out of the question. Three is a possibility. I’m thinking four.
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Yeah plus with the way contracts are structured in the NFL
I’m sure that if his plays diminishes to the point where he is no longer playing up to that contract he could easily be released
3+1 is my thing. Or 4+1.
Either way you structure it voidable final year and backload the final two. You make the 2nd to last year a roster-bonus deal. If you want to cut him before reg. season starts, no biggie.
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Paraag Marathe
is responsible for the actual $ amounts of contracts? Thought baalke had more to do with it.
No I think that's Paraag's job
Baalke has a lot to do with it though in terms of saying who he wants and giving some parameters.
By the way what’s up with the "aa"s?
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
think it just means his family speaks punjabi
aa is commonly used in that language
Cant tell if serious...
Baalke’s got the double A’s and I’m like 60% sure he’s not Punjabi
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 5:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Paraag is a punjabi name
aa means “this” in punjabi and is used in numerous words and names in punjabi.
I agree that baalke is not of punjabi heritage, he’s of Nordic heritage. The aa in nordic languages used to be written as an A with a circle at the top of the A. So different altogether.
In both languages, I think the point of the aa is simply to have a long vowels sound.
I have to imagine that the Joseph and Cromartie deals will be the agent's model
so we’re looking at roughly 5 years 45 million. Probably want to front load it a little and get some of the money out of the way this year.
Then get to work on Brooks.
by whistlingmountain on Oct 25, 2011 3:41 PM PDT reply actions
i cant see him costing THAT much. joseph and cromartie are established CBs and he’s 30 years old
he’ll probably get 3 years, 21 million or so
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
1 year 2 million
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 25, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
someone just messed it up then
cause I just read an article that said more… oh well
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
you're right, niner cap hell has him at $4.25 million
http://www.ninercaphell.com/yearly/2011/salary2011/DESC
not sure what is right
oh ok
I’d like a 5 year 25 mil. Can always cut him when he gets old.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
he took the 4.25 because it was a 1 year deal
it was a prove yourself deal and he has proven himself. I’m not saying he’s going to get 5 years 45. but that is going to be the model that his agent goes into negotiations with.
So I’d expect them to meet somewhere in between at 7/yr IF they can agree to something during the season. He has played like a true #1 corner, the longer he keeps that up, the more he’ll cost.
by whistlingmountain on Oct 25, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Get to work on Brooks? Hell, he might be losing his job pretty quick here.
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lol
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I don't get it
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 25, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly, they're both on the field on passing downs
and eventually will be both on the field for all 3 downs.
Brooks is good and cost effective.
by whistlingmountain on Oct 25, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
again, lol.
you guys need to remember we have NOT seen Brooks play the right side. If Aldon takes over the left side, Brooks may very well be screwed. It’s not necessarily a matter of Haralson being better than Brooks, but if he can’t play the right – which IS different – then who knows? It’s not a certainty, that’s why I said it’s kind of silly to “start working on Brooks” when there clearly should be higher priorities.
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by James Brady on Oct 25, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong
A) We have seen Ahmad Brooks have a three sack game with two forced fumbles from the right side.
B) Why are we moving Aldon Smith to the left side now?
by hammystyle on Oct 26, 2011 10:32 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I think he means as a 3-down OLB, ie. standing-up on 1st and 2nd down
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Wrong? How is it wrong? I never once said Brooks couldn’t, I said he’d have to show it in an actual battle and we don’t even know where he’s going to play. If we don’t know that, we can’t extend them.
And we’re moving Aldon Smith wherever the hell he works best, and you know that. The left side might be better for him in a standing, 3-down role.
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by James Brady on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Please don’t reply to posts with derisive subjects like “lol” and “again, lol.” That doesn’t encourage discussion, if you were just another poster I’d ignore it, but you’re a “head coach” for the website with your name attached to it.
Who do you think is a higher priority in free agency after Rogers right now? The only one I think would even be close is Ginn. Everyone else it would be better for the team to wait. Brooks on the other hand, continues to play well and play every defensive down.
Alex can wait. Boone is EFA. Reggie still has a-lot to prove, including that he can stay healthy. Goldson will want to test FA again. Snyder still needs to prove himself. Rachal is gone. Morgan needs to rehabilitate first. Edwards needs to play and will also want to test FA again.
I really don’t see a single higher priority for extensions, let alone so many that it’s laughable to say he’s the next one.
by whistlingmountain on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just sick of people being so damn unrealistic
And I don’t think anybody is necessarily above him, I think the team would be best suited to wait a few weeks. Brooks isn’t a priority at all because we don’t know where he’s going to start. Just like you say we should wait on Braylon, A. Smith, etc, so we should also wait on Brooks
It’s not laughable that he get the NEXT extension, it’s laughable that tje 49ers should immediately start on him, which is what I took the original post to mean.
If you’re offended by my posts, then I do apologize, but don’t even think about referencing the “head coach” bit. I’m commenting on here as a fan same as you. But again, it was the wrong thing to do, especially to you, who didn’t give me that dumb attitude like E-Train and goatfather did – that’s why I started saying “lol”, because one asked “to who?” when there’s only three OLBs and the other one said it was crazy. Which is basically the same thing as saying “lol.”
Again – apologies to you specifically.
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Sorry James...
I didn’t think such a small response like that would affect you, and I was mostly kidding. I just happen to like Brooks a lot and what he brings to the table. I wasn’t really following your logic.
how is that crazy talk? It's all about Aldon. If he plays the left side, the coaches will accommodate him.
Then Brooks has, effectively, lost his job. He’ll then have to show he can play the right. We’re far away from the discussion of needing to extend him. We don’t even know the starters yet.
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by James Brady on Oct 25, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
First thing that jumps into my mind is "BUYING HIGH"
Hopefully it will be a reasonable deal.
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by E-Train on Oct 25, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Dang he's having a career year too,
so do you pay him based on his best year, or do you pay him based on his averages. I’d rather they resign Rodgers so that CB is not a DIRE situation going into the draft again. Let’s you pick up other solid prospects vs. having to pick a CB you aren’t entirely sold on just because it’s a need.
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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
The train is picking up steam.
Any NFL team that doesn't fear the Niners really don't know the deal.
And when's the last time a 3-4 had two inside guys who played all three downs?
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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 25, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Makes no sense...
Those 3 corners are all best in man… that’s where the talent is… They have no idea what they’re doing there on defense…
Signing him now also most likely saves us loads of money if he were to continue this type of play for the whole season and hit the open market.
This is great news!!! Now extend Braylon and A. Smith too!
First part - makes sense
Second part – I can only assume that this is sarcasm
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 25, 2011 6:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't surprise me
He was asked a few weeks ago about his time in Washington, he didn’t have great things to say post-Gregg Williams…He said he loved playing in this defense and for this team. It was clearly a excellent fresh start for him in a way.
The Lions game I don’t think he played particularly well, but he’s been solid all year, he’s got a few good years left. 49ers still need to look CB in the draft though.
...maybe he is having a career year
because our front 7 are crazy good? Still 3 years 4 to 5 mil base with a ton of incentives is acceptable.
Id do the following
2 years with modest guaranteed money, mainly incentive based, and a team option for a 3rd yr.
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lol; and five million for me
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Extend the man!!!!!!!!! I'd say 3 years, with an option for a 4th, at about $4-$5 mil per...
highly incentive-laden.
I like this team, and would like to keep as much of it together as possible for a while. I agree with those who want to start extending several of those whose contracts are up at the end of this season…
Does anyone have the information as to which players’ contracts expire after each of the upcoming seasons?? I have (or had) it someplace, but cannot find it… Thanks in advance.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Here ya go
2011 is the free agent retention storm.
2011 – All the PS guys plus
Smith, Alex
Norris, Moran
Justin Peele
Edwards, Braylon
Ginn Jr., Ted
Morgan, Joshua
Snyder, Adam
Rachal, Chilo
Boone, Alex
Tukuafu, Will
Brooks, Ahmad
Costanzo, Blake
Gooden, Tavares
Grant, Larry
Brock, Tramaine
Rogers, Carlos
Goldson, Dashon
Smith, Reggie
Spillman, C.J.
Williams, Madieu
2012
Walker, Delanie
Jean Francois, Ricky
Sopoaga, Isaac
Spencer, Shawntae
Jones, Colin
2013
Tolzien, Scott
Dixon, Anthony
Williams, Kyle
Goodwin, Jonathan
Dobbs, Demarcus
Smith, Justin
Williams, Ian
Bowman, NaVorro
Haralson, Parys
Brown, Tarell
Whitner, Donte
2014
Kaepernick, Colin
Gore, Frank
Hunter, Kendall
Miller, Bruce
Crabtree, Michael
Iupati, Mike
Kilgore, Daniel
Person, Mike
Davis, Anthony
Smith, Aldon
Culliver, Chris
2015
Davis, Vernon
McDonald, Ray
Willis, Patrick
2017
Staley, Joe
2017 joe staley lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
and he might not even be the one we want extended that long
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lol
but it is better than frank gore being extended for that long.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We can argue that one. Sir whiff a lot, or an aging injury prone back?
Well with one, you could end up with a QB injury prone, or stuck with martzsyndrome.
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I have that exact list somewhere, but for the life of me I couldn’t find it….
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
boone and brock will be restricted free agents.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
4+1 deal (voidable fifth year)
makes years 3 and 4 predominantly roster-bonus (he gets paid those years if he’s on the 53 week 1). Gradually back-load years 3-5 to make total contract number acceptable and to keep money off the cap early-on.
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The whole resigning thing....
is so interesting with a new staff and seeing if this staff slowly trys to revamp all the key positions
Alex Smith- 3yr deal… most of this is hopefully spent as a backup
Norris- SEE YA
Braylon- I dont think he will want to resign but we will see & how much does he think hes worth?
Teddy Ginn- I would like to give this guy a long deal. The key is valuing him as a punt returner and explaining to him how his KR ability as been devalued significantly by the new rule. Being stable in San Fran should help us get that discount.
Morgan- This will be interesting. I can see it going both ways and i think you can justify signing him or releasing him. I would like to resign him bc hes so big and strong.
Snyder- You gotta resign this guy right? He’s a great utility and hes done so much for us. Hes outplayed our 2nd round pick.
Rachal- See ya
Boone- I think hes grown on ppl in the organization and Lord knows hes got the physical ability. He’ll come cheap too and thats what gets this deal done
Brooks- comes cheap and even if he doesnt turn out as good as hes playing this yr (parys cough) then he can add depth to a D that can never get enough pass rushers
Tramaine Brock- I like this kid and would like to see us retain him
Rogers- Im all for resigning him but good chance we might have to let him walk with his price tag. Hes good not great
Goldson- Personally, im all for letting this guy walk. Take a FS early (Im hoping Lester in the 2nd) and hopefully this Defense can find its last piece
Reggie Smith- mixed feeling on this guy but im all about signing him
Yes
This says a lot about how comfortable Rogers feels in this system and his belief in our SF 49ERS.
I believe in excellence. I believe in Alex Smith.
Maybe overracheiving is a better word for what I mean. He did give up 2 TD's vs Dallas.
He intercepted 3 QB’s that aren’t that good accuracy wise. I guess my opinion is open on him until we face a better QB, which outside of ROethlisberger, I don’t see him facing a great QB. But to extend a guy this old for 4 years is ridiculous to me. He is a sucker in zone defense and a liability in man coverage if you take him downfield. I pay more attention to plays that aren’t good. If one player gets the sack or INT, I watch what the players around them are doing on the replay. He isn’t aggressive vs the run, and our front line is why he is “lucky”!!
Leggoooo!!!
extensions
The thing with lengthy extensions is the fact that more often than not there is not much in the way of guaranteed money later in the deal. That is something that needs to be negotiated, but the 49ers front office has done a good job of front loading deals and making deals that generally won’t hurt later on.
by David Fucillo on Oct 26, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
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