49ers Vs. Browns: Ugly Second Half Does Not Prevent 6-1
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT
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PrintWell, that one certainly wasn't pretty. The San Francisco 49ers overcame a hideous offensive showing in the second half, holding on to defeat the Cleveland Browns 20-10 and improve to 6-1. While it was an ugly win that raises some question marks about aspects of the offense, the 49ers now stand four games up on the Seattle Seahawks after only seven games. They cannot sit back on the accomplishments to date but they have put themselves in an excellent position moving forward.
The 49ers got off to a hot start in the first quarter, jumping on top 10-0 in the first quarter. The 49ers dominated the Browns for much of the first half, running at will and having their way with the Browns offense. Frank Gore put up 103 yards in the first half and passed Roger Craig early in the second half to take over the second position on the 49ers all-time rushing leaderboard. For most of the first half, Gore had no problem gashing the Browns.
The passing game on the other hand was a bit all over the place. The 49ers had success on some Braylon Edwards slant patterns and I am a bit surprised we did not see more of that. Edwards is too big and physical for a lot of cornerbacks, which is perfect for that kind of route. The 49ers have had quite a few games where we will see something work really will and then the team seems to move away from it. I'm sure somebody out there can explain this better than I can.
The good news once again was the defense took care of business. Aside from the poor decision-making on the Joshua Cribbs touchdown, the 49ers defense did some good work. On that particular play, Tarell Brown let Cribbs get behind him and Dashon Goldson committed a bit early towards tight end Ben Watson, who was running a crossing pattern. Dan Fouts seemed to think Goldson was meant to cover the back end for Brown, but I suppose we'll never fully know.
Other than that it was another extremely physical game by the 49ers defense. They sacked Colt McCoy four times and they also forced five Browns fumbles. The Browns recovered four of those fumbles, but the 49ers were laying the wood on these guys. The 49ers have recovered a host of fumbles this season and were do for a modest regression. Well, here's your regression.
The 49ers have plenty to work on as they move forward to face the Washington Redskins in week nine. The Redskins are struggling mightily, but as this weekend has shown, there are no gimmes in the NFL. The 49ers will be favored going in, but if the offense doesn't develop more consistency, they'll be in for plenty more dogfights.
For now though, the 49ers are 6-1 and they are in control of the NFC West. There is plenty to discuss from this game so we'll be back throughout the day and into the coming week.
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2nd best record in the NFL
Trailing only the Packers. That’s pretty impressive no matter how you slice it.
Meanwhile, the Rams may have helped us out in more than one way today. While winning over New Orleans didn’t put them in the hunt for the division, it did move them away from possibly getting the no. 1 overall pick (which they presumably could’ve traded for a bounty of draft picks), and it helped the Niners by giving them another game on the Saints, their likeliest competition for the #2 seed.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 30, 2011 7:12 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Just my thought
but if you are the Rams and get the first pick, keep Luck and trade Bradford. It might cost a few $ to cover Bradford’s salary, but Luck should cost less and make up the difference.
Final line for Alex:
15/24 (62.5%), 1 TD, 0 INT, 177 yards, 98.8 rating.
6-1 record.
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions
The last two numbers
Are all I care about. Efficiency and wins are miles more important than any of the other ones to me.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
wins are a team stat
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
They are
and a 98.8 rating with 24 passes contributed to it.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
which is why I said nothing about efficiency
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Nice
though I did want some more throws, when they were bottling up Gore. Thanks for the facemask, though, Browns!
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Such an ugly 2nd half
There is no way they will get too confident going into the Washington game, all the coaches have to do it put on the tape of the 2nd half. Alot needs to get fixed before next sunday.
But I did like how the Alex-Braylon connection got better as the game went on
It'll get better.
They’ve practically had NO time sense Braylon even signed with us.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Wait until they got lots of time
and 5 division games
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
lol sure...
a week is going to solve everything
He had 4 for 42 with less then a week's worth of practice
you’re telling me that over the next few weeks where they will get more snaps together that he cant have good games against the Skins and the depleted group of DB’s the Giants have?
I liked everything that Soap did on offense
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 30, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugly second half but too much good stuff to be upset or anything
If just a few of those fumble recoveries went our way, probably would have been the blowout it should have been.
Brooks is a madman, Aldon is a prodigy growing up before our eyes, offense is creative when they need it to be, and the O-Line was dominating early on.
The Niners managed to avoid losing during Trap Weekend and played enough good football to hold off a tenacious defense and team. Solid win; I won’t complain about how pretty it was or wasn’t.
Yay ugly wins!
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Yay 6-1
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
For once, I don't care the rest of our division is pathetic. LoL
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I just love wallowing in the tears
Of Field Gulls. So satisfying.
by Gitaroo_Dude on Oct 30, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
schadenfreude
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because they are Seahawks fans
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
by Blank x2 on Oct 30, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tastes like powered sugar
It’s delicious.
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The lice hate the powdered sugar
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
schadenfreude
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, sadism in sports
Is probably the second best thing about ’em.
by Gitaroo_Dude on Oct 30, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to look
I love it too, and haven’t checked in a while.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Yup!
A Saints loss means much more to our chase for the #2 seed than a St. Louis loss cause we’re no longer fighting for the division, we want our bye!
Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 30, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
Niners no longer measure themselves against divisional opponents. They’ve gotta compete with GB and NO for a bye right now and measure up to their talent and consistency.
by Gitaroo_Dude on Oct 30, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
And at 6-1, we should really be competing for the #1 spot.
Not saying we’re favorites to get it, but we should be trying for it. We do have a much easier future schedule than GB does.
looking ahead to the playoffs id like to have homefield all the way through
Dont want to play greenbay in the snow for the nfc championship
why? 49ers are built for bad weather
Packers aren’t
by whistlingmountain on Oct 30, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
That statement makes no sense whatsoever…
The Packers aren’t built for bad weather? They play in it every year and have for a while now. They did just fine in it last year.
I get your philosophy in that the Niners have good defense and run the ball well but that doesn’t mean that the Pack cannot throw the ball in cold weather. Also, if Starks and Grant are healthy, it’s not like they exactly suck. Starks carried them on the ground pretty good last year.
Sorry, just cannot bring myself to see THAT logic (or lack there of).
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What no aleX to Joe Staley or Ice out of this newly forming offense? Psssahh! Great game NINERS! Woo Hoo! 6-1! Who'd have thunk this is August?
Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!
by 23mjheart on Oct 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
any given sunday
means more than ever this year…
unless the opponents are the colts of course
Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of soccer.
I'm pretty sure the record was set by Kearse. He had 8 consecutive games with at least 1.0 sacks in his rookie year.
He is also tied with Freeney for 10 games in his rookie season with >1.0 sacks. So, Aldon’s got a ways to go, but he very well could break that rookie record.
Talked about bar fights he's been in.
Good stuff, very happy with the win.
A few things to look at.
VD has vanished from the game plan it seems. Alex is still throwing to high to Crabs, or to far. We can’t give Gore 30+ carries a game, lets split it up more. Getting Braylon, VD and Crabs into a rhythm is going to be important going forward… But it’s nice to have a win, go Niners!
People keep saying lets split it up more. Gore is better and more reliable, it's the best move for the team.
Leggoooo!!!
I agree he's better
But give him a rest for some snaps… Hunter is pretty good himself. The problem is it doesn’t mean much if they just stack the box and we can’t counter it with an effective passing game.
I think he plays better when he's getting between 18 and 22 carries a game
Over that and he’s not 100% fresh and operating at 100% capacity for each carry
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Alex think Crabs is faster then he is.
Crabtree should have stayed in the facility, not getting speeding tickets trying to run out of town.
I still feel like our receiving game has taken a step back with Morgan out
Braylon back still hasn’t convinced me otherwise.
I do like all the shots we took downfield today, despite Alex’s being off on them. It really does feel like Harbaugh is slowly opening up the offense every week, despite the rather bland 3rd Quarter right there.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
As much as I like the downfield passes thrown in every now and again,
it’s hard to get excited about them if Alex is out of rhythm like he was on them today. Let’s hope he can hit those more consistently going forward.
Yeah, that's gonna be the key
Especially once teams start keying in on the run game.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I can tell at times he's still worried about being stripped from behind.
(with good reason) Both our tackles let guys get upfield past the QB with regularity. At least they aren’t getting beat clean nearly as much though.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I was really impressed with the O-Line in the 1st half
Smith had all day to throw. (Browns blog said “he didn’t have enough time to boil water”). Run game was impressive too.
But I guess half time the browns made some great adjustments.
If you look at the box stats
The only real glaring difference is rushing yards and a couple of turnovers
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Did Coach have Patrick Swayze on his side? Lol!! Harbaugh and any other coach in the ring, who ya got peeps?
Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!
by 23mjheart on Oct 30, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Did Coach have Patrick Swayze on his side? Lol!! Harbaugh and any other coach in the ring, who ya got peeps?
Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!
by 23mjheart on Oct 30, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Looking at the scores
Niners come out looking pretty good. Saints were upset, Patriots were upset, Giants almost lost to the Dolphins
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It was a trap weekend for just about every good-great team
Gotta throw the Ravens in too.
Niners were the only team to not need a major comeback or lose to an underdog.
by Gitaroo_Dude on Oct 30, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Steelers victory over the Patriots
isn’t really an upset to me. Just 2 good teams playing each other.
But
The Patriots were favored, and they have beaten the Steelers like six times in a row or something
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess
But pairing it with the Rams – Saints game makes it seem like not much an upset
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the bye thing is real
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Hmmmm
Apparently Baltimore’s comeback was the biggest comeback in Ravens history. KLOLB
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Anquan Boldin destroyed them in the second half.
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For the first time in a while, I found the playcalling suspect in the second half
Not sure what the reasoning behind the calls were.
Also thought Alex was bit off. I know that stats weren’t bad, but it was just how his play “felt”…maybe it was the overall funk of the second half. Dunno.
At least they managed another win.
yeah the playcalling was annoying but
the pass to soap kinda redeemed it all lol
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Alex overthrew Crabtree running wide open down the sideline on 3rd down.
49ers- Imposing Their Will, One Game at a Time.
I wonder how much ice Andy Lee's leg will need after kicking the ball 400 times in the second half?
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Smith looked a lot better today. hit some sideline throws. He's getting anxious, I think he is seeing plays developing better.
Either that or we need to move Crabtree, he seemed to be more in tune with Braylon and he has been out for weeks.
Leggoooo!!!
He had some overthrows but they def need to do something on the passing game. When teams start keying on the run, we need to know we can pass the ball effectively too.
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Liked that little slant play they were working in to Braylon
I am pissed that Vernon is not getting the ball more. He is having one of his worst seasons to date statistically so far. We have to get that guy going.
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Delanie as well.
For a coaching staff that claims to love the tight end, the game plans seem to show otherwise.
Yeah
Is he still working in the passing offense or something? I know that it’s harder to set up the passing game than the running game with a shortened offseason.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing so.
For a first year offense with no off season though, we’re seeing a lot better than I was expecting. Hopefully more will come with more time.
I'm wondering why they aren't using a fake slant and go with Braylon. 3 wide left
Braylon on the right fake the slant and go, no one is expecting the niners to go deep.
Leggoooo!!!
There are still 9 games left in the regular season
We may see it sooner or later.
Currently satiating my hunger for Kings basketball with a renewed focus on the NINERS
Braylon's action was very limited.
Didn’t want him doing too much. I thought that was obvious. I think it will be another 2 weeks before we see him featured
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's wierd, I thought that our TE's would be getting overworked. Screen to Davis when Walker is better suited for it.
Screen to Crabs when Williams is better suited for it. Williams and Smith had decent chemistry but Williams doesn’t play. Davis is not being used. I hope they are saving tricks for the playoffs.
Leggoooo!!!
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Early reports on twitter suggest he may be questionable for practice this week, as he has a football sized and shaped bruise on his foot. Further updates coming.
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The play calling...
Seemed too conservative in the second half for my liking. And we got away from targeting our tight ends. Not sure why since it seemed to work well in other games. Oh well, a win is a win. And I’m thrilled about 6-1.
by EyeBlack22 on Oct 30, 2011 4:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It is a win
So I am happy.
However, I’m am weary about next week. I’m going to the game and with the Skins getting shut out today it will not be an easy win. Their defense is probably as good as Cleveland’s, expect a similar ugly game next week. That said, their offense is terrible, especially with John Beck.
Hey
John Beck got sacked nine times, and they don’t have an Pro Bowl left tackle. I expect big things from Mr. Smith
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
which Mr. Smith? or both…
I'm working my way to grumpy old curmudgeon status with all the grace I can muster.
He meant...
Mr. and Mr. Smith
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they don't have the best LT in the game
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Looking forward to that game...
Although my neighbor plays for Washington. Almost feel bad he has to loose another game! (almost!) :-)
by ColoradoNiner on Oct 30, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
fred davis aint no slouch
Neither is torain
by sundaysfinest on Oct 30, 2011 5:15 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Fred Davis is getting better and better by the week but I trust that Pat & NaVorro will be able to contain him
as to Torain, he has good games but he is the kind of RB that this defense loves to play. But Hightower was a crucial part of that offense before he got hurt, great catching balls out of the backfield and Moss stretches the field so much that the offense has become stagnant without him
that was awful.
Harbaughcalypse Now
by dutra on Oct 30, 2011 7:08 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm also really surprised that the Browns D isn't getting more credit here
Obviously the offense struggled, but it’s not like this was against a crappy defense. Even adjusting the Browns D left them above average. I would have liked to see our coaching staff adjust better in the 2nd half but they still managed to get the game clinching FG and avoid any turnovers so I can’t be too down on the effort.
goldson penalty hit
was so gnarly it froze the live stream on my computer.a quarter second later and i had to restart it
Haha yeah that happened to me as well.
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by 49erfannm on Oct 30, 2011 7:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
classic cupcake penalty
Goldson lowers his shoulder, Receiver ducks his head into it – bang 15 yards.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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I would not call this an ugly win.
49ers controlled much of this game. Defense was amazing, offense got points on the board, great time management.
It was a great game because most of it was not exciting with 49ers on top. It was a beautiful day here in New Mexico and it looked like a beautiful day in San Francisco. I’m looking forward to those struggling Redskins!
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by 49erfannm on Oct 30, 2011 4:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Dan Fouts said it well
He was talking about how he beat the 49ers many years ago and he said that he only got flashy numbers and a win because you have to up your game to score. Well, he said it better.
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I think it was about...
Having to up his game because the other guy kept scoring. I watched that game. Both Fouts and Montana went over 400 yards, as best I can recall.
Tell tale on Alex today....
If im not incorrect:
1st half – 14 pass attempts / 11 compete
2nd half- 13 pass attempts / 4 complete
No rushing attack in the 2nd half
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
They took it away...
We definitely have to work on the passing game or we’re getting knocked out in the 1st round.
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Yeah Jackson torched them...
and me…. on my Fantasy Team
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against Aubrayo Franlin, our Ex-NT
9er/chiefs fan from berlin – berlin is in germany – not a native speaker – mistakes may occur
We will run all over the Saints
And Harbaugh is gonna make the call to send Brees out on the cart. “GET THE CART! He ain’t getting up!”
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
thing was that he was making good reads
just that his passes weren’t that accurate. He missed Crabtree open twice that probably would’ve ended up touchdowns.
Man it's like the reverse Philadelphia game
Hopefully it’s not the reverse Tampa Bay game when we face the Redskins
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe the Browns actually played better in the second half
Alex wasn’t great, but the Browns looked better in the second half. Still should be better, but we won. All that matters now is the Redskins.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
at the end of the day it is a win.
but I didn’t like the “feel” of the win. The 2nd half was ugly.
I think most of us would agree. But the fact that I’m even typing that i’m unsatisfied with the way they won is a huge sign that the team is heading in the right direction and a culture of winning has started again.
I’m actually thinking they play better on the road, so let’s see how the ’Skins can challenge us to get better.
I just hope that R. McDonald and Vernon are ok, and can return. (espn blog stated VD suffered an arm injury of unknown severity)
I agree
It didn’t feel like a win, but be won, so that is pretty damn nice.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering all the moral victories we've had the last few season
A win is a win is a win.
But like Harbaugh says, gotta get better everyday.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Just all smiles here...
Not happy about the Cribbs TD, lack of real effort on Goldson…just stood there and watched him run the last 15 or so yards.
I think that td was on brown.
he had his eye on the ball the whole time and then decided to turn his head and take his eyes off the ball at the last second. Because of that, he ended up losing track of the ball and the td ensued.
ugly halfs happen
lets not try to peak to early. alot of kinks to iron out, but no-one thought we’d be 6-1 at this stage of the season with 5 division games left. we’re good for it.
I'm sick of all those
commercials. It’s has been years since I’ve been to the Cinema,but now I want to watch that J. Edgar movie.
It'll be good
Great actor, great director, great premise.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Wow
“as much as I hate being a defeatist, I continually realize that this team is one excellent QB away from contending for the West again. This year should serve well for o-line experience, which should mean that they get better towards the end of this year and next year.”
From FieldGulls.
Is it just me, or does it seem like the Seahawks need a lot more than a great QB to contend? For the division behind us, maybe, but seriously?
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
I don't disagree
they have a good defense, and a serviceable RB combo in Forsett/Lynch.
Emerging WR Corp Rice, Williams, Baldwin, Tate. They ain’t winning the SB next year with a good QB, but the division will be a lot closer.
bahahaha
they’re gonna be rubbish for a while. last year’s playoff appearance was a gift, and it that won’t be coming around again. I’m a full believer in the notion that Pete Carroll will not even get to 0.500 in his time with the seahawks, and he’ll be bounced back to college ball.
i bet they won't.
Luck will go first to Indy, Landry second to Miami, and then, depending on how bad tebow actually gets, Barkley will go to denver before seattle even get the chance.
Peyton Manning..
has kinda shown us this year that a great QB might be all you really need to be a contender. I think that Ind has a few more good players on that team besides Manning(ie. Freeney, Wayne, Dallas Clark) but are the Seahawks that far off in talent compared to Ind without Manning?
I think an elite QB can overcome alot of the flaws a team might have.
Wonder if Alex and the offense will ever have 300+ in the air this season?
Once teams start stacking the box again, we need to be able to pass effectively to back them off. Shanahan is no dummy… he’s going to do what the Browns did in the second half and force Alex to beat them. And the Redskins have a better defense than the Browns
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Just make Staley eligible to counter that crap… we know he can catch the ball now haha
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He was a TE at some point in his college career
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by TryAndCatchVD on Oct 30, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Freshman year before they converted him
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He definitely seemed very confident
when he was catching the ball
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he has it in him. He’s done it 4 times in his career I believe.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And the teams he played or the first four or five years
were OVERLOADED with talent.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Exactly, which is why I believe he can do it this year
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
uh, 6-1 has nothing to do with passing for 300 yards…
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Again, I don't care about that, regardless of the argument above
Fantasy stats mean nothing. Give me Alex today and a W over 350 yards and a loss any day of the week.
Stats don’t matter. Record does.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
The original question was about Alex throwing for 300 yards. That has nothing to do with record. No one said anything about record. Why did you even respond?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hence "Regardless of the argument above", in case you missed it.
And I responded because I felt like it. Thanks for asking.3
Basically I was stating that to me the record matter and stats don’t. Next time I’ll ask permission before responding to a comment. Didn’t know it was such a deal to you.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Dude, you shouldn't be in this thread posting that crap. Now you want to pick at people, seriously??
Leggoooo!!!
Jesus Christ
Okay, I’ll stop saying I care about our record, which is THE ONLY THING I care about. If it bothers you all that I don’t care if Alex is Aaron Rogers and getting 400 yards and 5 TDs again, so be it. I’m not picking. I’m just stating what I consider important FOR THE 500TH TIME.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
And this message will be like the last thread when you jumped my case
I don’t mean “YOU” when I talk about people bitching about Alex ten minutes after a win. You took that one wrong, and you’ll probably think my above comment says you want a fantasy stud at QB. That’s not it, just trying to clear it up before somebody gets mad again.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Boom goes the dynamite!
So far, 2011 has been Harbaugh-some!
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by grantmp on Oct 30, 2011 4:52 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
that,
and an interception in the end zone!
by Togna Balogna on Oct 30, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You overrate that play, I'm not going to drink from the optimistic pool of delusion.
Pass should have never been thrown.
Leggoooo!!!
I can guarantee you Brown was screaming Ball!
Otherwise I doubt Goldson turns his head.
Um he could have yes, and most DBs would
But it is Goldson, so I doubt it…
He's using his entire years salary up on paying out fines
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big hits
I forget who said it, but if it gets future receivers flinching over the middle, it’s worth it.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
To who?
Not his wife and family… and accountant
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They will be if he keeps playing like that.
And one of these times, it’s gonna cost us huge in a crucial moment
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He has had some bad ones
But he has got flagged for a few clean ones this year, too.
I do wish he’d fix it though.
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Shoulder to helmet is still a fine on a defenseless receiver
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True
I don’t remember the exact ones, I’m just saying he’s gotten helmet to helmet this year for at least a couple I thought were 100% legal. But I agree with that.
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he had another big one on a run
where somebody else got credit but he made the hit and the ball went 15 yards backwards. they recovered but he tuned the running back up big time.
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I agree Drew
It’s just stupid to get penalized over a hit like that when he could have lowered his head and shoulders a couple of inches and hit the wide receiver legally.
It is going to cost us big time, and if not us then it might just hurt the opposing wide receiver real bad. Hits to the head are bad.
Or.... here's a thought...
Just wrap the guy up and tackle him while you’re hitting him right in the abdomen… just as effective and they won’t call a penalty.
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by Drew Kerr on Oct 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And probably knocks the wind out of the guy
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Exactly...
Just as effective just you won’t be risking a penalty and risking a head injury to the other player. Everybody wins.
It's a gamble that sometimes pays off and sometimes costs alot
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He won't get fined
that was a legal hit
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If it was legal, he wouldn't have got flagged
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I'll bet flags vs fines is heavily in fines favor
They always so “so and so didn’t get fined” throughout the week.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
No
the NFL reviews film and decides whether players should get fined. Not fining someone is basically saying that it was a legal hit.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
They don’t really publicly say who is getting fined and who is not unless it is a HUGE controversial type of deal
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he never got fined because it was a clean hit.
I read an article about on PFT that same week. Point is that just because you get flagged for an illegal hit it doesn’t mean the player will get fined
I believe he didn't get fined
I’ll try and find a tweet on it.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Really Drew
That’s a really ignorant statement. A lot of plays, Niners included, have been flagged for illegal hits that were actually legit.
I don't know if it's ignorant
so much as just wrong. I get the point you’re trying to make, but when people call others ignorant, it often leads to yelling and screaming. It just ends up being a bit of a loaded term. Mean this as a general issue.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not wrong
And he’s trying to get me riled on purpose …‘cause that’s what he does.
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No it's not...
Think what you want… even if it’s ridiculous.
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if he was flagged, it was an illegal hit
Maybe wrong is the incorrect word. But it could be inaccurate. A better way to phrase it is “if he was flagged, it might be an illegal hit.” A flag doesn’t guarantee it is illegal. Refs do not make every correct call and you know that.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
MOST of those types of hits are usually fined. More than not
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that's fine
But it’s not all of them. That’s the point that was being made. I’ll make sure and post something whether he gets fined or not.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
When Little got the passed knocked down
And ran into Willis, I laughed out loud. Looked like it hurt a little.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
O-Line was very, very good today again...
Im feeling they are now a top 10 rated NFL line.
I just can't be that excited
I just wish Alex could hit open receivers (primarily Crabtree) and we could push a lead.
It is good to be 6-1, though.
And I'll be excited next to you.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.
Good job Niner Defense!
Congrats to Frank Gore on a great game and the record.
Our o-line has really come together nicely.
Now, I just hope Alex can get in sync with our receivers by playoff time – otherwise we will be just like that other really good Harbaugh team we play on Turkey day
Whoa
Tavaris Jackson got injured again. I think Carroll might tank to get Barkley, his old USC QB.
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If anybody tanked on purpose
It would be Pete.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
we've got to keep Alex Smith healthy. He took a few shots today...
I don’t care if you hate Alex or not, I’d rather not have to finish the season with a rookie.
So they are saying Ray has a hamstring injury?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
I thought I saw him back in the game, no?
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Really?
I say RJF and Dobbs in, didn’t notice Ray
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
say = saw
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
No. RJF filled in.
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I thought I saw him try and go again after it happened.
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Also, people saying VD needs to get involved more
VD hurt his arm didn’t he?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
Sando said he did
That’s all I saw on it, tho
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Not before today... and it was his hand but he went back in so its prob just a contusion
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Just saying
Before the season started would you not have been happy to be 6-1 at this point? I don’t get it.
but but but
we want mooooooaaaar!
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"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
6-1
Can be happy with 6-1 but concerned about specific issues. If the team wants to make some noise in January, they have issues they’ll need to clear up.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Like passing more effectively.
Defense, Special teams, and ground game is there.
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patience
How many games have Edwards, Crabs, VD, Gore played together this year?
I think they are still tuning up the passing game..they all gotta be on the field together for a few consecutive games so that they can mesh, what do u guys think
by sundaysfinest on Oct 30, 2011 5:13 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
They'll get better
Besides, as great and fun as this is, NEXT season after a full offseason and such is where I think the REAL fun will begin.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
They’ll get better
Heh, I’ve been hearing this for the past 6 weeks. I guess we’ll be hearing it for the next 10 as well
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
We're 6-1
I know you apparently don’t care about the Niners’ record, but it seems they have improved over last year with no offseason.
What logic says they won’t continue to get better? Please enlighten us.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
You are such a broken record. All you ever say is that the 49ers are 6-1. You never have any other argument.
Every week has been “oh the passing will get better”, and it hasn’t. And all people say is “Oh we’re winning, we’ll just get better.” Then we don’t, and it’s “Oh we’re winning, we’re getting better because we’re winning”
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
But that makes NO sense.
What other argument do I need? Sorry we are not 7-0, and we can improve, but acting like anything else matters than the record is silly. That’s not a broken record. That’s logic.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
I'm not saying we don't have issues than can be fixed
But considering where we are, there is no reason to think it’s gonna fall apart.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
I’m not saying we don’t have issues than can be fixed
You aren’t? Any time I bring up the inadequacies in the passing game, you only bring up the record. Honestly, it just seems like the record completely blinds you to everything else about the team.
What issues do you think we have that need to be fixed?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't read my comments, do you?
I know we have issues. We all do. I’m not going to spell this out again, because you’re always just going to say the opposite from spite.
We can be better, but we could be a LOT worse. Apparently I’m the only one happy to hang my hat on 6-1 knowing we are not where the team wants to be. Silly me.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
I am very happy about being 6-1. I’m just tired of getting called a troll and a bad fan because I fixate on one pathetic facet of our game, that in today’s game is essential for success. I can’t sit here and say how excited I am about the team when we are literally relying on our defense, run game, and special teams every game while Smith holds the team back. And I can’t help but wonder if the players think it too
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it would. And that’s even more indicative of our problems. We don’t even have a QB on the roster who can take us to the next level.
Except Tolzien
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This is my mindset
that for at least this season we have to work with the cards that we are dealt. That at least for this season Alex Smith is the best option at QB that we have.
No i do not believe Alex is anywhere near a franchise QB or even a Pro Bowl level QB but I do think he is a decent starter. And as Trent Baalke & Coach Harbaugh continue to build the team and get that franchise QB, whether it is Kaepernick or Tolzien or through the draft. This team by far isnt a finished product but I do have alot of hope that this team isnt a one and done team (playoff appearences i mean) but can be a serious power years to come
Alex is a franchise QB
Whether he is a huge stat producer or not. If your guy throws for 20 TDs and 4 INTs on the season and you go 13 and 3 that’s a guy that’s helping your team win.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 30, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
but to me a franchise QB is a QB that constantly leads you to the playoffs and makes everyone around him that much better. That he elevates the team through his play
Tolzien
Why do you think he can take the team to the next level?
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Name 10 QBs in the league that are better than Alex Smith
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Matt Ryan
Matt Schaub
Ben R.
Philip Rivers
Mike Vick
Tony Romo
Matt Ryan is an easy one - the most overrated QB in football
Rivers? Have you watched the Chargers this season? Would we be 6-1 with Tony Romo?
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Are we only taking this year's performance into account?
Because I firmly believe Rivers is better than Smith, and I think Rivers will post a solid second half of the season. I’m actually taken back a bit that someone would argue that Smith is better than Rivers (not trying to insult, I respect the opinion).
Why is Matt Ryan overrated? He’s been very successful in this league.
I’m not going to bother arguing Tony Romo. I fully expected that response.
I have never liked Rivers' throwing motion
But yes he’s had success. I was talking about this season. Rivers has looked awful at times. I do not think Matt Ryan is a good NFL QB. Average at best. Doesn’t make good decisions, doesn’t go through his progressions well, doesn’t move very well, doesn’t throw very well on the run, doesn’t have a ‘strong’ NFL arm.
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Probably Schaub
Always has great fantasy numbers but has always been mistake prone and cant seem to take his team to the playoffs.
Keep in mind I'm a Schaub fan
But until this year he has had a pretty terrible defense on the other side.
He’s made his fair share of mistakes too, sometimes very important ones (see: Raiders game this year).
I'll give you that
But look at how talent loaded that team has always been and yet he cant win the big win
No I agree on that part
He’s squandered plenty of opportunities, just pointing out his defense hasn’t helped. And up until this year was a pretty tough division.
I think as a team they’ve underachieved for a few years.
I'd put Alex on par with Schaub too.
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Ben R.
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Tony Romo
AleX Smith …!!
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You are telling me you would take a healthy alex smith over a healthy peyton manning?
or are we only talking about the now.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I'm a big Alex fan
But I’d take an injured Manning over any QB – even Brady
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Well depends how injured Manning is
if he can’t play then I don’t want him to be my starter.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Now , i mean whats his stats this year ...!!
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oh ok
ya that makes sense I would put Alex over Peyton Manning. Any other year and I would make a time machine apply for modship then ban you.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
its true I would have
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Drinking again huh ...!!
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its 6:00
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
and I was trying to be funny with that time machine joke.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
You so funny ..........with that time machine thing ...!!
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I know
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
He may never play again , were talking nerve damage , there's not much to fix that ...!!
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Romo
Ryan
are two Qbs that I think are equal or below Smith. Based on how well they play and take care of the ball.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Romo has put up gaudier numbers this year
but made much bigger mistakes.
Matt Ryan is the second most over-rated QB in the league.
Top 10 QBs in the league IMO
Peyton Manning
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger
Vick
Eli Manning
Cutler
Stafford
Alex Smith and Schaub
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Nesy level , how much higher do you want the team to be ... ( 7 - 0 ) ...
Harbaugh’s system is not going to require Qb goddly numbers , he wants a balanced attack , ball control = clock control = a fresh Defense and Offense that will wear you down …!!
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Thing is though
What game-changing QB could we have gotten for this year? Kolb was a high price and isn’t looking like that game-changer right now. Hasselback decided not to come to us. Kaepernick is a project QB. I don’t think many people are claiming Alex is the long-term solution for the 49ers, at least not yet. It would take a whole lot to convince me otherwise considering his history.
However, the Niners have an opportunity right now to win and make the playoffs this year with Alex at the helm. The Niners have had just about a decade of losing, I do not mind one bit getting that foothold on a winning culture, even if it doesn’t mean a SB victory.
I can get all nit-picky next year when Harbuagh has an offseason and another year to turn it more into “his” team, but that’s just me.
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by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely understand that, and don't have anything against you at all.
It just rubs me and a few others the wrong way that it’s always during and after a win, when we should be thankful and praising the football gods we have a staff that CAN win games.
Trust me, I’ll talk about the deficiencies in our passing game all day long with you. Just not today. LoL
No matter what, you aren’t a troll, regardless of what me or anyone else says. Bluecap was a troll.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Correct me if I'm wrong....
but do you get better if you lose repeatedly?
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Did you expect this record?
I did not, I love it
predictions
I predicted a 7-9 season so no I didn’t. Love it, but want more.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
We always want more. LoL
but you gotta be more than excited right now. I never in a million years thought we’d be in this situation right now.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
expectations have been raised in a very short period of time
the over/under on wins for the season from Vegas was 7.5.
this was a game we would have lost the last several seasons but every good team needs to wins games when they don’t play their best.
"It's impossible to hide the fire inside" - Bob Seger
True.
They are all not going to be pretty and full of dominance. Gotta do what you have to when it matters, which is what we’ve done all season. Hence our record and lead in the division.
"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"
Building up...
I think Harbaugh says it best when he says they are trying to get 1% better each day. Compared to the preseason, the team is better, compared to week 1, the team is better. I am really excited to see where the team will be with a full season of learning the playbook and learning each other’s tendencies.
Every team had to deal with the lockout, but certain teams had to learn a new offense, a new playbook on top of that. The 9ers are a work in progress. 6-1 is a good start, but I hope we keep building on this and bring some noise to the playoffs this year.
In the words of the great Jim Harbaugh
“The longer it takes us to realize we are great, the better we are”.
I love the fact we are 6-1. It doesn’t change the fact we as a fan base and the 49ers as a team should be critical of themselves. We always need to keep improving.
Very happy about 6-1 but we got to focus on what’s wrong not on what’s right.
Like passing efficiently!?!
Don’t get me wrong AleX managed the game well. But he still missed some throws, like the one to a wide open Crabtree in the 3rd qtr on a wheel route!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
See, what gives you any indication he WILL make it later?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
We talking bout Practice!?!?!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Because I don't believe he's not incapable of showing improvement...
I’m not a huge Alex Smith fan, but I believe he’s showing improvement this year. I’m guessing you strongly disagree with me, which is fine. I really don’t care enough to argue with you, but that’s what I was trying to say.
he missed 2 big bombs at least
and early he had the Alex Smiths a little. I think I counted 3-4 passes that were just slightly thrown bad enough to be dropped. (Not counting the deep stuff which is more difficult and a different accuracy issue).
But during the good drives he was on for sure.
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Aldon Smith for MVP.....
add another sack to the totals..
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Definitely a defensive rookie of the year candidate
If you consider he has 5 games left against NFC West teams, you can easily see him get 15 sacks this season. Can’t wait to see how things turn out.
yea he's definitely making a HUGE claim for more PT...
cause Haralson is quiet over there at times
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You are back
long time no see
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I had a lovely conversation with a Skins fan at the bar today. He was wearing a Kerrigan jersey, who had 5 tackles today, but no sacks…He pretty much was trying to say Kerrigan had the rookie of the year locked up.
He hadn’t heard of Aldon Smith.
Skins are horrible...
Rex Grossman is their best chance at winning games.(think i just threw up in my mouth typing this). Seriously they couldn’t even get a FG vs Bills..
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I still can’t understand why Shannahan pulled the plug on him after 1 bad game, I know he was terrible, but he basically just went to Beck no questions asked. Who wasn’t good today at all.
I don't know which game was worst for the day...
Bills vs Skins or Det vs Broncos.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
lol that reminds me of
the Skins fan that tried to tell me London Fletcher was the best LB in the NFL and that he had never heard of Patrick Willis so he must not be that good. Those Redskins fans are a delusional bunch.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
I agree
remember earlier in the season when it looked like Harbaugh was getting out-adjusted at halftime?
The Philly win and the blowout vs. TB mitigated it, but I’m not sure the 49ers are making the necessary halftime adjustments.
I don't know
In a game like today you don’t really need to adjust much, but you need to realize the other team certainly will and be prepared for that…
do they make halftime adjustments
Or stick to the gameplan for the entire game
by sundaysfinest on Oct 30, 2011 5:22 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Yea as a 'SC fan
that was a great game. Luck is a great competitor. Very proud of my boys and showing the nation on primetime that even with the sanctions will be alright!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
this....
to much eastcoast/SEC bias
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they should alter college FB OT rules
so that ALL touchdowns in OT must be followed by 2pt conversion
What's the word on McDonald?
I didn’t see him return after his injury and our pass rush wasn’t as good. Any updates?
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Hamstring injury
Thats about all we know AFAIK
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I read hamstring on PFT btw
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"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody said hamstring
Don’t know, though.
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regarding the TEs
I think the Niners went away from the TEs this game because we’ve been show casing it. I’m guessing the coaches probably figured the Browns would’ve prepared for it so we had more creative plays to Staley and Soap.
I didn’t like how our D seemed to ease up on a few plays thinking the game was in the bag etc. For example, the TD to Cribs that I think Goldson could’ve made a tackle on but it seemed he pulled up thinking Cribbs was going out of bounds. There was another play where the receiver caught a pass then fell. Bowman, who was pursuing, didn’t touch the receiver and allowed him to get up for more yards.
Other than that it was a decent game. Hope we are geared up now for the ’skins.
Agreed
Like the W, but there were some mental lapses on both sides that can happen against a bad team but will sink the Niners against a quality opponent.
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by Young_To_Rice on Oct 30, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Later guys - Gotta do the social thing.
Good game. Good win. Good night. Next week, we go to 7-1!!!
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Back to more important stuff... Who's catch was better?
Soap’s or Staley’s….
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Staley
Soap went out of bounds when the 49ers needed to run clock. Plus, Soap is gigantic! Take out the safety.
Lmao....
how many 300+ Dline men do you know catching the rock? you right though he’s got to crush the safety on that one & kill more time.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
And if he trucks the safety and fumbles the ball
We all think about Nate Clements and Atlanta and say he should have just gone out of bounds
"It's impossible to hide the fire inside" - Bob Seger
ok fine he could have just given himself up and went down in bounds then..
either way better to be safe than sorry I guess, it worked out in the end…
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Clutchtree
sorry that you’re getting flak headed your way. It’s just that you don’t seem to be enjoying the 49er wins (even though you probably are) because all you seem to do is complain about Alex Smith (who didn’t look too great today, for sure).
Note: I wasn't here for the gameday threads
But I’ve skimmed, and read this one and this goes back a week or two.
I think Clutchtree has changed his tune a bit. He seems much more interested in actual discussion than previously(even if coming from a more unpopular stance).
We need a huge start next week
like 24-0 49ers in the first half. The redskins offense is even more inept than the Browns.
It seems to me Harb.
Only cares about the win.
Thats all anyone should care about
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
He does
At least during the games. But during the week I’m sure he is as concerned if not more concerned about the offensive issues than some here.
thing is as bad as the 'foreskins played today, they actually play well at home
so it’s going to be blue collar all the way for the 49ers
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the Soap catch and all,
but he missed a crucial block today. I’d rather just go with an actual FB on short yardage plays.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
was he?
I don’t think so.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Hurt his thumb.
But he came back in.
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Moran Norris would have bobbled that ball..
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah and woulda gone the other way for 6
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Improvements
Hey, hasn’t it felt like the team has improved each week. First, it was the run blocking and the running game. Now, the O-Line didn’t allow pressure. I mean, once the passing offense is fully installed, it’ll be pretty awesome.
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Happy with the win
Thought the Browns were a tough match up coming off the bye, it did turn into a fight. Rust was apparent. Brows run blitzed the entire 2nd half daring the 49ers to hit the big play. The passing game just missed a few times, which again is understandable coming off a long bye. Felt like it was a close game because the 49ers were just missing plays, not that the Browns were out playing them.
Lots of injuries and dings; McDonald was knocked out. Looked like Frank rolled his ankle which made a difference in the 2nd half. VD and Iupati took some dings. Think the Skins are good match up for the 49ers.
And still won by 10.
I will take it every week.
How so?
Can’t run back anything if there are 7 coverage guys around you.
No muffs, or anything atrocious, which is a victory in special teams.
I see
maybe it was my grainy internet feed, but I thought he caught most of his punts cleanly (especially given how there were like 4 guys around him for each fair catch).
Kickoffs were ok, I thought. very very average. I would say “awful” for ST play means a significant mistake.
But, did he have a single catch in the game? I remember that failed reverse for negative 5 thousand yards.
I know one thing Carlos Rogers is going to be amped up next week!!
hope it showes well on the playing field though
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so is VD
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
It's his and Morgan's hometown.
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its his hometown
dude has been talking about this game since the schedule came out.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
And Joshua Morgan.
:(
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So will Navarro Bowman
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
hometown
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowman's from Maryland.
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Wait nevermind.
Forgot FedEx Field is in Maryland, not DC.
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exactly all maryland kid's are raised in 'foreskin folklore
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This is just practice for the playoffs
I have a hard time hearing all those negative comments here.
We are 6-1…let me repeat that 6-1.
The team is doing enough to win these games and i believe that is exactly coach harbaughs plan. Do not show them anything that we could use post season.
Our offense isn’t going to open up, until they need to, or it counts.
It is pretty much a given at this point, that we are going to the playoffs, so i would not be surprised if the coach is already game planning against Green Bay (he wouldn’t be talking about it, for sure, but he is tight lipped anyway).
You heard it here first, folks…NFC championship game…SF49ers vs Packers.
After that, well, if we can beat the pack…we never lost in a Superbowl appearance!
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I understand your point of view and I can respect what you are saying
But I’d rather be critical and negative so that we dont become overconfident and start making our expectations bigger than this team is ready for
I agree
but let’s be realistic. Do you really believe, that coach harbaugh isn’t looking towards the playoffs right about now?
Granted, he will keep our team grounded (he has shown that he can).
Having said that, he will bench most of our starters, the moment we have lost a shot at the first seed, as long as we are guaranteed the number 2 spot.
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Thinkin " the only thing Harbaugh is thinkin" now is ...
1 … Washington …
2 … what happened in the second half
3 … How can we get better and that’s it …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
I think 2 and 3 are the same thing.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
But we need to find a way to win when our run game gets shut down.
We won’t beat Pitts or Baltimore if we don’t figure it out.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Nope , # 2 is that they got out coached in the 2nd half ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
With all due respect, i think you're wrong
1. What do we need to do to beat the Redskins, without giving away everything.
2. I had Alex throw a couple of deep ones (we have to work on accuracy), but otherwise it was enough to win.
3. We are a lot better than people realize, how can we disguise that?
Call me a homer all you want, but i truly believe that Harbaugh is thinking long term now.
"There is one quality that one must possess to win, and that is definiteness of purpose, the knowledge of what one wants, and a burning desire to possess it. "
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I think Trent Baalke and Coach have been think long term since they were both hired/promoted
They have been building this team with the mindset of how it will they will perform 3 to 4 years down the line. Which is why they drafted the way they did and how they spent money in Free Agency
You sound like Freddy P Soft ...!!
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And i'll add a ... O " boy" ...!!
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Bring him on.
I’ll kick Freddy P. in the chins, anytime he wants me to.
In the meantime, i will see things as a realist (the same way i have over the last eight years, when we where a less than stellar team, shall we say).
Lok…I don’t think either Baalke or Harbaugh knew before the season started, just how quickly “long term” would arrive!
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Dang , your wrong on so many fronts it's funny ...
… there is absolutely no way Harbaugh will ever conform to your way of thinkin " . especially when there’s so much to improve upon , you fail to realize the enormous ego’s there are in the NFL …!!
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Ego?
Please be kind enough to post a picture of yourself, since i find it hard to get into a discussion with a dog (i love dogs and have one myself).
To answer your comment, my “way of thinking (with a g)” is nothing strange to coach Harbaugh, on the contrary, he is the one to change my way of thinking.
Ego, really? What?
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by rise_stand_resist on Oct 30, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions
Seahawks aren't playing the Suck for Luck strategy
They are under the Win Barely for Barkley Campaign lol
If the Dolphins/Colts have the first and second pick
I see Luck and Barkley getting picked 1st and 2nd. It would be funny if this turned out into a Peyton Manning/ Ryan Leaf situation though.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rams/Zona might have 3rd & 4th
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Colts get the 2nd overall pick I dont think they touch either of the other QB's
If they dont get Luck they go elsewhere. probably on defense
Peyton Manning
I’ve said this before, but he’s not coming back. Not with three neck surgeries. If he comes back (and I don’t want to offend anyone) I think that he will be spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair. All it takes is one good hit.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I am starting to agree
There’s no reason to return.
Peyton’s already assured himself one of the best QB’s in NFL history, got his elusive SuperBowl Ring, lord knows he has tons of money.
Absolutely stupid to risk death/paralysis
You dont know how his injury will heal but the Colts will have him every opportunity they could possibly can
but if Luck isnt available why pick a QB? Luck has lapped Jones and Barkley.
Because the Colts will need a QB of the future
and three neck surgeries, including a neck fusion surgery, means that Manning should not come back. I don’t know what doctor would ever let him go back on the field.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
But we both know that it wont stop Manning from coming back
and it wont stop the Colts from giving him every opportunity possible.
Doctors
The NFL still requires players to be cleared to play. Meaning that a team doctor will have to say, on paper, that he believes that Manning is okay to play. And I don’t know that any doctor would put his license on the line for that . Spinal fusion surgery weakens the strength of your spine. And with the hard hits Manning takes, his spine won’t last long.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 30, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Luck hasn't lapped Barkley
If they were racing a mile Luck is winning by like 2 seconds
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I like Barkley a lot more than Jones.
and I hate USC and all of their players with a passion.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
I'm a UCLA fan so I can understand your hatred of all things USC
but while I think Barkley is a good player I just think Jones will be more successful in the NFL
If the Eagles continue with the rushes,
we have the number one rush defense after tonight.
6-1!!
“The 49ers have had quite a few games where we will see something work really well and then the team seems to move away from it. I’m sure somebody out there can explain this better than I can.”
James Joseph “Jim” Harbaugh is clearly saving the best plays for the playoffs. Why let the good stuff get out when they can win games passing to Staley and Sopoaga?
Walter White is Heisenberg.
he's been wanting to do that for a long time
you could tell by his enthusiam
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
you know he did talk about the TD celebration
you think he had that in mind?
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
oh I'm sure he was hoping to get the TD
so he could bust out a celebration
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
do the Harbaugh
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Name 10 QBs better than Smith? In no particular order
Vick
Romo
Eli
Rodgers
Cutler
Stafford
Ryan
Brees
Newton
Freeman
Rivers
Tebo-LOL I COULDNT DO IT
Brady
Fitzpatrick
Roethlisberger
Dalton
Manning
Schaub
Arguably Haselbeck
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
wow reply fail, god damn it
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by MichaelClutchtree on Oct 30, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
list fail as well
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
by 49erLou on Oct 30, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
list
Why? You could make arguments about a lot of those quarterbacks.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
arguments
I’ll come up with my list when I have time later.
But given the value of “arguments” you can make arguments about any of these players. Now, some would not be remotely as realistic as others, but that’s the beauty of debate.
by David Fucillo on Oct 30, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That is some real Alex Smith hate right there.
I could care less who is ranked higher than him so long as the Niners keep winning. And I now believe this team can go deep in the playoffs with Alex at QB, and I hope they do so he can prove his detractors wrong.
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Why do people automatically have to go to the “hate” tag? I’m happy with the 49ers 6-1 record, but you can make some arguments about the QB position. The arguments might be debatable at best, but they are still open to debate.
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Listing washed up or mediocre players who are having much worse struggles on that list than Smith is bordering "hatred"
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Your idea of "better" is odd.
See, I could say it without personal attacks.
this is a pretty reasonable list
I think that there are probably 5 guys on it who are not really distinguishable from AleX. He’s very … uh… average? I think that even if he’s out played Phillip Rivers for 2011, I would trade Alex for him heads up in a heart beat.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
hey man if AleX can be the Trent Dilfer of Qb's was for Bmore of 2000
I’m all in….
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Oct 30, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
They didn't get 100 yards rushing did they?
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
oh
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Goldson lack of full effort is a concern.
I tend to like Goldson. I always have and I want to. The pick was great and he will look good in the stats. We are not deep at safety. (Possibly our weakest position).
But the lack of effort on the TD down the right sideline was inexcusable. That is not Harbaugh football. Whether or not he was out of position to begin with I won’t judge, but to stop and watch!!! What!!! Any effort that stops the play anywhere at least slows the game down and forces Cleveland to use more clock.
I do not think this will go unnoticed by the 49er coaching staff.
In Braylon's return game from
injury, I think we did okay. I think Harb’s was just experimenting w/other plays…notice that after Cleveland scored their only TD of the game, we came right back and put up 3 to seal the ‘w’. He was playing w/the opposition. When you’re sitting on a lead and your defense is handling things just fine, you have that luxury.
Oh, and thanks to St. Louis for giving us a little extra breathing room as the 2 seed in the NFC!
What made you come to that conclusion after this game as opposed to any other game this season?
Stat line was pretty darn similar to most other weeks.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 30, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't going to generalize after only a few games
The Dallas Cowboys are the NFL's greatest undreachievers.
Play-calling was terrible in the second half. They were just trying not to lose.
They damned near lost control of the game trying to rest on that 14-point lead. Without the facemask call, they might have.
The coaches still don’t seem to be quite able to anticipate opposing defense’s adjustments to the Niners’ running game- i.e., coming out in the second half with more defense on the line. Niners should have seen this coming and had Alex throw behind them right off the bat. Instead, the coaches doubled down on the rush, got stuffed, and tried to fix it with gimmick plays, all of which were terrible except the keeper plays and the tosses to the tackles. Quick slants and sidelines routes were the easy answer, but apparently too difficult to shift to.
The Niners 2nd half offense looked like Singletary was running it.
I like that the Niners players are able to learn so well from Harbaugh, but I hope that he and his coaches learn, too. Let Alex throw some REAL passes- not gimmicky garbage- on 1st down. He had looked great in the first half before the bad play-calling started. 31 carries for Gore was far too many, and the whole thing did not allow Alex to get into a rhythm.
What to do with ALEX SMITH?????
He is playing the best ball of his career but is it good enough for a long term contract. Do we really want to see him get a 3-5 year deal. I mean he missed a wide open Crabtree for a sure 60 yard touchdown run, and missed about 3 timing passes to Crabs and Edwards. So what should we do with him? I mean the numbers look OK and he doesnt lose games for us but he also doesnt win them either. For us to move forward and compete with Teams like Green Bay, New England, Falcons, we are going to need a solid QB that can make them 15 – 20 yard passes up the field to open things up. If we want to be at the top of our division and make the playoffs and be an above avg team them maybe we sign him (Alex Smith) to a deal and move on, but if we want to be the team that everybody compares their team to then we need a QB. But who?? We wont get LUCK, or any other good QB in this draft. What would you do???
He looked great in the first half when the right plays were being called.
There’s nothing wrong with him. The play-calling was terrible and he couldn’t get into a rhythm.
It's not all on the play calling, he left plenty on the field, as far as points and yards, from inaccurate throws.
he cannot be perfect, no one is. I personally would like to see him 4 to 5 games hitting these throws consistently before I’d extend him beyond 2 years.
Leggoooo!!!
In fact, we should be more worried about the team becoming one-dimensional as Harbaugh
seems to be moving further and further toward the run game.
Gore had 31 carries today. That is a lot- too many, in fact. Mixed up with the passing in the 1st half, the running was great. In the 2nd half, though, the offensive scheme needed to be adjusted and it wasn’t done.
If we become too much of a rushing team, what do we do in the playoffs when teams do what the Browns did in the 2nd half today?
Right
because Smith cant make his throws down field so y not give the ball to your Pro Bowler. Thats why I said would you give Smith a contract?
Alex was 10 for 13 (76.9%) with a touchdown in the 1st half.
Look at what he did on a play-by-play report.
What changed?
We couldn't run the ball
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
look again
I will do a report on this tomorrow… some interesting stuff in there.
Although – you are correct in that we had 3 25 yards runs in the first half and none in the second.
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Where was Hunter
I mean we run Gore 31 times in this game which was far to many times. I know he wanted to brake craigs record but we have 9 more games lets be smart with GORE (if we want to make it far in the playoffs). Run hunter 10-12 times a game and give Gore is breaks.
A bit concerned...has Alex hit his peak?
Since the start of this season we have all witnessed week by week clear improvement from Alex, actully seeing him do some things this season, we never saw prior seasons.
However, starting with last weeks Lions game into this week Browns game, tell me if Im wrong but Alex appears to be stuck in nuetrul, maybe even has regressed a bit with his accuracy.
I love that Alex is experincing success ….he deserves it after all the crap he has been through here. No doubt, Alex is mentally & physically a strong person.
But…..can this team really compete in the playoffs with any Q.B. that barely throws for 200 yards week after week?
Im just puzzeled, why is it that the 9ers cannot get to 200+ passing yards during games?
I mean look at Craptree, the last two weeks he has caught I think 7 passes and today 5 passes but for what was 54 yards.
Will this team ever get over 200 yards passing. Am I overly concerned here?
You are not overly concerned
I mean we had I think 3 rookies pass for more than 200 yards today alone. Look at CAM a complete animal, Ponder and Gabert. TEBOW sucked a@# and had like 176 yards what the hell. I know we will make the playoffs but how far can Alex really take us.
Again, my main concern is, Alex appears to have hit a wall...
since the Lions game, im no longer seeing that week to week improvement. In fact, his accuracy possibly went a bit backwards since the Lions game. And im talking about consistant accuracy, because Alex can make most of the NFL throws, but hitting his target consistantly really is what im speaking of.
Simply makes me wonder if that really is why Harbaugh kind of is protective in his selection of game day pass plays.
More trust in Gore running, but at some point before the playoffs Alex, Harbaugh & this offense have to show they can indeed carry this offense by not only running, but by passing too…..and i dont mean by passing for barely 200 yards either.
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I think chemistry is part of it, but I agree that Alex is pretty unimpressive on his deep throws.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Oct 30, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously?
I think the Alex can’t make big plays thing is over blown. Let’s look at who he’s throwing to and the plays being run before you pick apart his performance. Yes he missed a big play to Crabtree in the second half, but he hit a big one to crabs as well. Heck, even Brady missed high on a possible TD to Branch in the 4th against Pittsburg today. Alex made A LOT of great throws today. Our receivers just don’t have the break away ability that makes big YAC.
by NinerOptimus on Oct 30, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well guys, it was a fun week. I had the pleasure of listening on the radio today, which is probably fortunate that I didn’t have to see this one. I’m not too upset with the loss, you guys have a very good team. Our defense did a solid job I think, and as usual our offense let them down. Congrats on the win, it’s one step closer to being back in the playoffs where a proud, storied franchise like yours belongs.
by Legoman0721 on Oct 30, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It was a good game
A bit closer then most of us were comfortable with, lol. Any Given Sunday. There are no unbeatable teams in this league. I think you guys will gain all kinds of experience this year playing in what I think is the toughest division in football. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and a surprising Cincinnati. That is tough. Good luck with the rest of the season and beat up on our NFC West mates a bit.
I moved to Oregon this week
and this is Seahawk territory.
Nevertheless, I am seeking out as much Niner stuff as I can get. Weird, being in enemy territory, but if the Niners can keep this up the Portland area may be Niner territory soon. For those overly worried about the team, remember that no team is perfect and sometimes you win ugly. In some ways it was a great victory. Cleveland has a tough defense and in the second half they locked us down. But we still managed to win, won yet again. That’s the bottom line. Getting those pass plays to Staley and Soap were great. That means in the coming weeks when the Niners have those guys as eligible the other teams have to take these guys into account.
I was around for the beginning of the Walsh years, which were great, but folks this is even better. Harbaugh is the real deal. For the worryworts, hey, just sit back and enjoy the show. Do we beat the Packers in the playoffs? Who knows, but after years of bad offensive coaching we’ve got a guy who knows how to win.When you start nitpicking, just say “Hostler” three times. If that doesn’t work say “Jimmy Raye” three times. Feeling better?
I’m as happy as a clam in mud. You should be too. It’s all good.
but then I have a reading problem...
by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 30, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
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