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Time to Spread 'em Around: Beating the Buccaneers' Secondary

When these men are happy, I'm happy.

Well say good-bye to the Tampa 2 - at least for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After reviewing the Bucs - Colts game from Monday night, it's abundantly clear that the Tampa 2 is a moribund coverage system recently.

And why not? Ronde Barber and Aqib Talib are, well, as beastly as I am cliché. They may not be the Dream Team (ohhahaha - way to anoint yourselves before the season starts, Vince Young), but they are a pretty nice bookends to an intense secondary. And with them, you can run all sorts of man-on-man cover, and they do.

So then, how does Curtis "Plays-Behind-Manning" Painter come in and complete more than two and a half passes? Well, let's talk some coverage and how to beat it. That is, after the jump.

Star-divide

For the most part, the Bucs run a Cover 1 (though sometimes they will drop a couple of safeties - it fluctuates), which opens up a lot of defenders to blitz, be it an occasional guy from the secondary or linebackers. Either way, and this should come as no surprise, the 49ers are going to have to shore up their intermittently hemorrhaging o-line in order to pass successfully. Man-to-man coverage can create opportunities for receivers to get separation like Michael Crabtree last game.

Another coverage the Bucs appeared to run is a coverage that is similar to the Tampa 2, in which the cornerback drops into the flat while another player drops either to a deep third of the field or a deep half. This was the cover Tampa was running when Pierre Garcon scored a TD on a medium catch-and-run pass play. Painter passed in between the flat and deep (and the deep defensive back bit on the seam route). Garcon basically had to shrug a defender off like an ill-fitting Snuggie and he was all alone.

So what's the real secret? Is it good protection from the line? Creative game planning that beats good coverage and excellent corners? Eh, a bit of both for sure, but at the end of the day, I think it will fall upon the receivers and Alex Smith to get the ball around.

Don't get me wrong, here, the Colts' receiving corps is not slouchy by any means, but, well, VD is so good; Crabs is showing the flashes of why we love (/hate) him; Josh Morgan is coming off a big game; and Frank Gore-Kendall Hunter looks like a deadly combo. Throw Delanie Walker and the occasional Ted Ginn or Kyle Williams in and the Niners are going to have to spread the ball around. Period. Smith, if he wants to beat this secondary, must show that man coverage won't work. He needs to show that we have too many players to just match up with one-on-one.

Force Tampa into zone-coverage. They don't cover as well in zone and, should they blitz, it leaves an open man (see: Morgan's slant TD amongst other versions of beating the blitz). Oh yeah, get the running game going too. Just use our weapons.

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Curtis Painter had a decent start against this secondary

Curtis Painter: 13-30, 281 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INT, Rating 99.4, Comp % 43.3

But Alex was even better VS the Eagles secondary.

Alex Smith: 21-33, 291 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INT, Rating 112.1, Comp % 63.6

I know it means absolutely nothing, but there it is.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

To be honest, after watching the Eagles last week and the Bucs against the Colts, I would say that the Bucs look better. Obviously, this is a small sample size, and ultimately I think the Eagles’ secondary is better; if any team, however, is going to get us ready for the Bucs’ secondary, it was the Eagles.

by WesHanson on Oct 8, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bucs Held Turner to 20 yards rushing on 11 attempts

They’re pretty tight against the run. It looks like the Falcons gave up on the run early and Ryan took to the air 47 times (wow) for 330 yds and a 75.7 rating.

If they do that to us, we’re in trouble. I bet it’s exactly what they try to do, shut down the run game force Alex to throw the ball around. In that case Barber is good for at least 1 INT.

Alex will need to keep his composure, and overcome 1 INT to keep the 49ers in this one.

If this game come to our passing game vs. theirs, Alex & Co. have to play their best game ever to win it outright. Otherwise it’s a going to be another ugly game and we rely on Harbaugh to use his magic to get us the win.

I’m hoping the team will take over soon and start blowing out some good teams.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if

Frank and Kendall may make this tougher to do because of their abilities in the screen game; stacking against the run may open opportunities for our rb’s to make plays in the passing game, which isn’t something they do much of in the ATL.

by redgolddynasty on Oct 8, 2011 7:41 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Alex's game was well below average

According to ESPN’s ridiculous QBR.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Oct 8, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN has to drop this pile of nonsense.

They have hired some dumb statistician to cook it up, and its an abject failure. They are proud that QBR advantage correlates well with wins, but that is because they have piled in parameters that have nothing to do with the quarterback. And weighting of performance to game win probability along the course of the game is outright ridiculous.

I am saying this as a person with doctorate in (essentially) statistics (yes, I am more over-educated that my inane ramblings online may indicate) – this QBR a pile of manure.

by Mindless on Oct 8, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think somebody put it best earlier

Any statistic that tries to take a whole game of play and evaluate it with a single number is inherently flawed.

by brundylop on Oct 9, 2011 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is

Tarvaris Jackson had almost triple Alex’s QBR. The reason? Aside from the deplorable 1st half (especially statistics wise), it is due to Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter being so effective in the 4th quarter when it mattered. That shouldn’t diminish what Alex did in the 3rd to put us in that position, simply because it was in the 3rd which is considered ‘less clutch.’

I’m convinced it was created by Tim the Intern…

by Virginia9er on Oct 9, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pat Willie

It means alot go 9ers! Go Alex Smith!

by ftgambit on Oct 9, 2011 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Curtis Painter

I think the stats lie. He was 11-28 for 135 yards other than the two Garcon catches, one was a screen(59 yards) and the other was bad coverage on a speedy receiver that went for 87 yards(around 70 was YAC). I don’t think we have any receivers with Garcon’s speed(I know we have Ginn, but with his hands he isn’t actually a receiver). Speed is the way to beat the Bucs secondary, because they don’t really have much of their own, similar to our secondary. Without Braylon this could be a tough game to get our passing game going in.

by jobharve on Oct 9, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah well....the Buc's defensive front 7 is very physical and...

will come after Alex with very bad intentions.

The O-Line better be ready.

by BigMar on Oct 8, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

They aren't any better than the Bengals

We can beat them.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bucs are pretty good

they are 3-1 for a reason

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner

When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.

by manraj7 on Oct 8, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or you can say...
The Bucs

- The 49ers

are pretty good (true)

they are 3-1 for a reason (true)

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

They beat the Falcons

and lost to the Loins by a TD. They played similar competition maybe harder

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner

When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.

by manraj7 on Oct 8, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Freeman is having a pretty good season

They have two CBs who are pretty good, as well as an impressive defensive line. I don’t think their LBs are anything to write home about, but I do worry about their defensive line vs the 49er offensive line.

It would be a bad mistake to under-estimate them.

by smileyman on Oct 8, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take our front 7 over the Buc's front 7

Patrick Bowman is #1

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean Navorro Willis

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please turn to numbers 52 & 53 in your manual...

Where you will learn how defense is supposed to be be played.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think our defenses are evenly matched

but I worry about our offnesive line vs their defensive line

by smileyman on Oct 8, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lions will be 4-1 when we play them.

Hopefully we will be as well.
The Lions aren’t as stout against the run as most the teams we have been playing. If we have the run game, we have a better chance.

If you think the Lions are rolling over the Bears, think again. Matt Forte had 200 yards last week, watch the Lions try to stop him.

The Bears 2-2 is as good as the Lions 4-0. They have only lost to the Packers (dominant team in the NFL) and the Saints (who have only lost to the Packers.) The Saints are arguably the most unstoppable offense in the NFL as well. (Or the Patriots, it’s a toss-up.)

There are no guaranteed wins in the NFL, only guaranteed losses.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bears vs Lions

Bears win… write it down, take a picture.

I’ve been blasting our OL since day one but they are going to continually improve as the season goes on. There is too much talent and our coaching is too good for that not to happen. OL men don’t get good until their 4th or 5th year in the league so I expect it to be rocky all season. However they will get better and as Smith gets better he won’t need 5 seconds of protection for each play. This will take a lot of stress off the line.

Also in true Walsh fashion Harbs is going to use the pass to open the run. While there can be no doubt our line is outmatched this week I think the other aspects of our game can put the line in a favorable position.

9ers win this game 27-17

by Tyler50 on Oct 8, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The short list of Examples

Would you prefer a list of rookies who get burned or veterans who make the pro bowl? How about Gallery from Oakland who was dubbed a bust until last season when all of a sudden he was the best offensive lineman on the team and a highly sought after free agent. D’Brickashaw Ferguson who was a bust and made the pro bowl last year. In fact look at the pro bowlers on the OL from last year, not one has less than 4 years of experience and many struggled out of college. Check out the AFC:
Ryan Cladly 4th season
Joe Thomas 5th Season
D’Brickashaw Ferguson 6th Season
Logan Mankins 7th Season
Alan Fanaca 13th Season
Kris Dielman 9th Season
Nick Mangold 6th Season
Kevien Mawae 16th season
Offensive line men need to see all the moves, learn to read incredibly complicated blitzing schemes and many of them hail from college systems where they don’t do zone blocking or any of the elaborate pulls that they do in the NFL. Offensive line men last longer than any other position in the NFL and they get better with age. Sweet spot being between 4 and 8 years. This is known.

by Tyler50 on Oct 8, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn't have to respond to that

I think it’s pretty rude when people ask you to back up simple statements on these blogs. I think it’s plain enough to state the position takes a few years to master, as does every other position in the NFL (and basically the world.)

Thanks for the list, here are some Pro Bowlers you forgot:

Maurkice Pouncey Drafted 2010
Brian Waters Drafted 1999
Jake Long Drafted 2008
Andre Gurode Drafted 2002
Shaun O’Hara Undrafted 2000
Jahri Evans Drafted 2006
Chris Snee Drafted 2004
Carl Nicks Drafted 2008
Jason Peters Undrafted 2004
Jordan Gross Drafted 2003
Chad Clifton Drafted 2000

There are a couple young bucks in there but clearly the list is dominated by experienced guys.

The 49ers line has:
Adam Snyder Drafted 2005
Joe Staley Drafted 2007
Chilo Rachal Drafted 2008
Johnathan Goodwin Drafted 2002
Anthony Davis Drafted 2010
Mike Iupati Drafted 2010
Alex Boone Undrafted 2009
And a couple rookies

The 49ers are young at a couple places but not so young it hurts. Iupati is undeniably better than the more experienced Rachal. I completely agree linemen get better with age, but there are some well seasoned guys on mixed into our line.

I don’t think it has to take a couple more years for them to improve. I think it could happen this year. Why put limitaions on success? People break conventional boundaries all the time. Why can’t the 49ers be the team that surprises everyone?

Well I hope they do, who knows?

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 9, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rude?

To ask a guy to support his statements with at the very least some anecdotal evidence?

I think the opposite is true. Everybody wants the comfort of having an opinion but few want to go through the discomfort of doing the research and having to think.

by Ougadas on Oct 9, 2011 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

No everything he said was plain and comprehendable without examples

This isn’t a frekkin research project it’s a football blog. He isn’t here to do your homework for you.

If people want to supply opposing opinions that’s fine. If they think there is evidence that counters what you propose they should at least have the courtesy to present it.

It’s lazy to “assign homework” if you don’t accept a statement. No one here is trying to solve string theory, or change public policy. we’re just giving out observations and opinions.

This opinion was so freaking simple anyway, experience = better than no experience. Why does he need to take more than five minutes of his day to say that?

You bet I think it’s rude.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 9, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry...

I wasn’t trying to be rude.

I just think that 4-5 years is an awfully long time for someone to become “good” at their position. I just wanted to see some examples of what he was talking about… If you’re offended, I apologize.

by E-Train on Oct 9, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also..

I didn’t need a “research project”. A few names would have sufficed.

by E-Train on Oct 9, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok don't mean to be harsh

I just can’t stop myself sometimes.

You could have said the 4-5 years part, that would come across as valid.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 9, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm all for a good debate

I think you missed the point a bit. I wasn’t saying all those guys on the list were busts… just that none of them were 1st 2nd or 3rd year players.

David Baas is another guy who took four to five years to get good at his position and you are watching Anthony Davis be another one right before your eyes. I didn’t come up with this theory… the first time I heard it Newberry was saying it on KNBR. I kind of dismissed it at the time as an excuse but I’ve heard several other offensive line men say the same thing.

Honestly I did don’t think it is too much of a stretch to say that most players in the league don’t mature until years 4+ excluding running backs.

by Tyler50 on Oct 9, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No I did get it

and I agree, sorry for the confusion. I need some sleep.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 9, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad examples

Gallery was a complete bust at tackle and still is. He’s being paid as a guard.
Clady earned All-Pro recognition his first two years.
Joe Thomas has been one of the best LTs in the league since his first snap and has made the Pro Bowl every year of his career.
Ferguson has never been a “bust”, he just hasn’t been one of the best tackles in the AFC.
In Mankins first year he was on the “All-Rookie” team.
Faneca’s first year he wasn’t even a starter and both his first and second were injury plagued.
Mangold’s rookie year he gave up half a sack.

All these guys that you listed stepped into the line and were solid from day one. Some of them did develop into All-Pro caliber guys but none of them developed from horrible to great.

by Ougadas on Oct 9, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's at least doing your part.

Gallery is a good guard.
Ryan Cladly and Joe Thomas are good counter arguements. but just two guys.
Logan Mankins was Pro Bowl after 3 years
Nick Mangold’s Rookie year wasn’t his best year. Nor was it any other linemans best year. He was good for a rookie

You can’t use the rookie honors a player get’s to compare him to veterens in this arguement, because veterens are excluded from consideration in rookie awards. (see Mankins)

I think Tyler’s main point was that it takes time to learn to be a great lineman, and some of our guys are green. That’s not a difficult concept. Why would you even argue? You can come up with outliers and anomolies of guys that come in with excess of talent, but that’s not most guys.

For every piece of evidence that seems to be for an arguement there is likely to be a piece of evidence that refutes it. So yeah I do take offense when people try to pick apart someone’s comments with demands for worthless data. At least have the courtesy to do the initial refute yourself. (which you did, I’ll give you that Ougadas)

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 9, 2011 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because there is a huge giant vast difference

between coming into the league solid and developing into an all-pro, and coming into the league a horrible wreck and hoping to develop into a passable player that still cannot even be considered solid. I’m not saying any of these guys were better as rookies than they are now.

What I am saying is that they were better as rookies than any of our starting linemen with the exception of maybe Iupati ever will be.

The difference is vital with tackles. If they come in solid and develop into an all-pro you celebrate, but if they don’t you still have a solid tackle. If they come in a train-wreck they limit everything you want to do on offense, have a detrimental effect on the development of all the young skill positions (QB, WR, RB) on offense, have have a very low chance of ever developing into even a solid player.

In that case, you either take the loss and cut them or move them to guard. Like Gallery.

I said it when we drafted Davis and I’ll probably be saying it until we wise up and move on — project tackles are one of the dumbest decisions you can make in the NFL.

by Ougadas on Oct 9, 2011 3:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Completely agree...

I think that most of the guys mentioned above were already pretty good from day 1, even if they didn’t make the pro-bowl until year 3 (for example).

by E-Train on Oct 9, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Point taken

I was looking at the teams they excelled on teams and they seem to be teams where the offensive line is established and historically elite. The Patriots and Broncos especially stand out.

For the record you put forward a very compelling arguement.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 9, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know they haven't been the best..

But are they really that offnesive?

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edge Niners , lets not forget anout the Harbaugh factor ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 8, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang ( about ) ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 8, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

O line is never ready

They go from suck to suck just enough to win a game lol!

by ftgambit on Oct 9, 2011 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

great analysis

I’ve been saying it all week and I’ll say it again. I think this is a prime opportunity for Crabs to break out. He’s developing a rapport with, and a trust for Alex, and he just looks and plays hungrier than before. I expect about 8 catches for 120+, and 2 TDs, one of which goes at least 50 yards.

"Alex is balling. He’s balling out." - Frank Gore

by bradyk2 on Oct 8, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Delete the 50 yards

and I am there with you. I still don’t think he is at 100%. I don’t see him able to rip off a 50 yard run, but I do think he has a nose for the end zone and should have more TD’s this year were it not for the Ref’s.

This is Crabs coming out party, and the Harbs train keeps rolling.

by Tyler50 on Oct 8, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point

I just see him catching a deep slant and seeing nothing but green ahead of him, or a deep ball like the one vs. philly and doing what Pierre Garcon did to their secondary. hopefully he can go near full speed, but either way it’s a big game for him, I think.

"Alex is balling. He’s balling out." - Frank Gore

by bradyk2 on Oct 8, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to start the game with Alex in shotgun

With a lot of audibles at his disposal.. If they stack the box, then throw it.. If they don’t have a running back their have have an alternate hb draw or hb screen.. And if that fails alex still has the option to roll out run for some yards.. We are going to need to spread this defense out big time.. Because I guarantee we aren’t going to do well up the middle.. Get alex throwin early an often so he is confident and on fire.. This will open up the run later.. I’m sure harbaugh will try and run it a lot in the beginning but I guarantee after the second series with progress he isn’t going to wait around for points anymore.. Harbaugh hates to lose.. Especially at home.. I expect the playbook ripped open in half on this one.. 2 to 1 pass/run ratio after first quarter.. I hope we lose the coin toss and let the defense set the tone and alex get the ball right after the half ready to finish the game again..

by pigskin slapper on Oct 8, 2011 5:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Wow in other news concerning Al Davis

Does anyone find how ignorant we all are? We all hated the man and despised him when he was old and rotting and now that he’s dead we all praise him like he was the founder of football..can’t we all stick to one side? ______

"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton

by Nelow on Oct 8, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes sir. I'm trying really hard.

But just a thought.

"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton

by Nelow on Oct 8, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

When someone dies I try to remember the good things and forget the bad

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner

When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.

by manraj7 on Oct 8, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good things like.....

Al Davis was a great person and loved football.
Al Davis is no longer able to hold back the Raiders….good for football.

He had his monents of greatness and like all people when they get old, they just lose it. But he will be remembered for the good things he did do for the sport.

I will miss him the most on draft day…

by ericalancanty on Oct 8, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He made a team that won 3 SB and been to at least 4 don't actually wanna look up how many

and now he created a team that beat the NYJ and almost beat the Pats.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
"Stopping the run doesn't come because of scheme. It come because of want to." - Donte Whitner

When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.

by manraj7 on Oct 9, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

why is it that every time VD has an advantage the 49ers never take advantage?

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Oct 8, 2011 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Another note

What happens if the Niners go 10-6 or 9-7 and A.S. want a 4 or 5 year deal?
Assuming that record gets them to the Playoffs,what do they do?

by gee man on Oct 8, 2011 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think they could make that decision purely on the win/loss record

If Alex Smith goes to the pro-bowl or is given all-pro honors, I think you have to keep him. Otherwise, 4-5 years is pretty big commitment.

by E-Train on Oct 8, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hrmmm

If Alex is a top 10 qb and the Niners get around 10 wins, then he gets a 3 year contract. 3 year could be voided.

by mrg80 on Oct 9, 2011 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say the 9ers should attack their lbs

Attacking around the lbs should help alot because they are decimated by injuries and there for gives us a leg up in the short to mid passing. I would love to see how RJF does as the starter at nose i can’t wait to see how he does.If he does as good as ICE then we definitely have arguably the best front dline for 3-4 teams.

by 9ersxtreme on Oct 8, 2011 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Im keeping my eye on Joe Staley and Anthony Davis.....

lets see if those two keys can finally win every snap against their opponents instead of getting whipped more often than not.

by BigMar on Oct 8, 2011 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Talib

He missed Thursday practice with a knee issue but practice Friday and is probable. He’ll play Sunday.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So who if any1 on their team isn’t a go against us?

by Doni S on Oct 8, 2011 10:08 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Quite a few

Out
S Devin Holland (back)
OT James Lee (knee)
TE Luke Stocker (knee)
WR Sammie Stroughter (foot)

Doubtful
LB Zach Diles (hamstring)

and i believe i saw on tampa’s page that LB Quincy Black (ankle) might be out as well not completely sure if they know how serious his ankle injury is

by 9ersxtreme on Oct 9, 2011 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

This should be a caption picture.

Crabtree: Hey Joshua, what is the capital of Thailand?

Joshua: I don’t know, what is it?

Crabtree: BANGKOK!

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 8, 2011 9:48 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Lol rec

Today's Justin Smith :: Yesterday's Bryant Young

by OffensiveInterference on Oct 9, 2011 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m really hoping against it but I am expecting a heart crushing loss for us soon… Last week when I saw that we had won the Philadelphia game I was completely shocked I was sure we were going to get destroyed in that game.. Tampa Bay is a very good team and they stack up against us in all the right ways. They are better at pressuring and sacking the passer then we are, there offense is stronger then ours and against better opponents. If we win tomorrow I will be shocked again just like I was last week. Last week we managed to swing blind for a knockout punch this week I see something more along the lines of a shut out, we will see though.

by b4huxley on Oct 9, 2011 1:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Thats horrible

Why would you say that about out team? Maybe a change of attitude is an order…I for one believe we can stack up well against everybody and should be at least in every game now win or loss. No true fan wishes or anticipates heart breaking losses to their team… What kind of fan are you?

by Zintzun22niner on Oct 9, 2011 2:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know its pretty negative.. I don’t wish or hope for it, but after so long of being terrible I’m just not 100 percent convinced that we are good again yet. In the Philadelphia game we were on the way to a blow out, yes we made an awesome come back, but if you look at our other games that game is the only game where we showed any true offensive production.. The type of fan I am is the type that expects the worst but hopes and wishes for the best. I’m still waiting for the game that is like being at a magic show and the curtain falls down and the sham is revealed.. I’d love it if we were for real.. I’m just not so sure we are yet.. I’m just worried we are like Seattle last year a new coach lots of excitement, but in all reality the same team underneath. That being said however, I am a realistic fan, a fan that uses rational thought when viewing his team and objectively observes it. I love the 49er’s I love watching them play, but to me to expect that Harbaugh has crafted a new team in the short time he has been here is a little silly, if this was a house being built I would expect him to have erected the foundation and scaffolding, now next year I expect us to be a good this year I have pretty much accepted as a lost year.

by b4huxley on Oct 9, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

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