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Al Davis Passes (1929-2011) - RIP

Fooch's Note: The 49ers released several statements on Al Davis' passing. I've posted them after the jump.

As most everybody is aware at this point, Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis passed away earlier today. While the Raiders and 49ers were rivals, it is still impossible not to recognize Al Davis for his importance to developing the NFL. To some he had become a bit of a punchline in recent years, but I don't think that should detract from his contributions throughout the years.

Al Davis actually has some 49ers connections as one of Bill Walsh's first coaching job was with the Raiders under Al Davis. It's a modest connection but it got Bill Walsh in the door. Davis also brought Jim Harbaugh in for his first NFL job from 2002 to 2003. LIttle connections like that are always interesting to consider.

Now that Al Davis has passed on, it will be interesting to see what happens to the Raiders. The controlling interest remains in the Davis family, but it's definitely not the same anymore. How that impacts the ownership of the franchise, the potential for a shared stadium, and numerous other issues will be intriguing to follow in the coming months and years.

RIP Al Davis.

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Statement from San Francisco 49ers Owner and Co-Chairman Denise DeBartolo York

"I am deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Al Davis. One of my fondest memories of Al is a dinner we shared many years ago. During that meal, he presented my father with a very special opportunity to purchase the San Francisco 49ers. In recent years, we were pleased to spend time with Al as our guest in the Owners' Suite at Candlestick Park while our two teams met on the field. Our sincerest condolences go out to his family and friends."

 

Statement from San Francisco 49ers Owner and Co-Chairman John York 

"The Bay Area and NFL communities have lost a true pioneer in Al Davis. The significant contributions that he made to the game of football at every level spoke volumes about his commitment to excellence. We enjoyed working with Al at the league level on the development and growth of our game, and at the team level we appreciated the competition between the 49ers and his Raiders. Al Davis commanded great respect from those he worked alongside and all he competed against.

 

Statement from 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke 

"Anybody who enjoys the game of football owes a tip of the cap to Al Davis. The numerous contributions that Mr. Davis made to the development and growth of the NFL played an integral role in making the game as great as it is today. Although this is a very sad day in the NFL and the Bay Area, it is a great time to reflect on what Mr. Davis has meant to this sport as well as our community."

 

Statement from 49ers Head Coach Jim Harbaugh 

"Mr. Davis is a titan and pillar of the game. I had the pleasure and honor to know him and to work for him. And to me, he is the greatest. The autumn wind will always be a Raider."

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Like I've said twice already ...

… as a 49ers fan, Al Davis was one of the easiest figures for me to dislike in the NFL. He represents the team that I was born and bred to dislike, and a series of poor choices and somewhat ridiculous press conferences in recent history made it easy to make fun of him and I always wondered how I’d feel when he actually passed. It’s really easy, though, to figure it out, because my first reaction was, “What…?” No fun, no excitement, nothing of that nature. It is, without a doubt, a sad day for football. RIP.

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by James Brady on Oct 8, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I had the same reaction.

I woke up this morning and when I read the news, I couldn’t believe what I was reading.

R.I.P. Al Davis

by mtl9ers14 on Oct 8, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

the lane kiffen press conference

was the greatest thing he’s ever done. Going to those lengths to say “I aint payin you scumbag” is something I can always appreciate.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What?

complimenting his tactic for firing Kiffen?

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, totally.

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by James Brady on Oct 8, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't dislike him

he’d become a caricature in his later years but the man may have been the single most important owner in the game of professional football. He did more to bring about positive changes in the game (especially with regards to race) than any other owner.

by smileyman on Oct 8, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, I've always respected Al Davis for the many great things he did for the game.

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by jbrown63 on Oct 8, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recognize that AD

has helped other NFL franchises by providing them with an easy win with a horrid team for many years. This may be the end to that gravy train

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

really?

you think that we as 9ers fans have any room to talk?

by brenrobb on Oct 8, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

No I think the niners

are deserving of any flak coming. The raiders are different in the sense that they have one head of the franchise who has bee riding the coattails of his previous accomplishments for way too long. But since you broached the matter, then yeah, the niners are a model of futility in football…from the top down. They have had the worst ownership and team building since the “crew” left seemingly all at once after Eddie D.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly

The few Raider fans I know are excited about this.

by gee man on Oct 8, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

so they’re smart and honest!

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would be truly embarrassed for my franchise if you were representing it on other teams blogs the way you rep’d the niners fans on S & B’s blog this morning.

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by Bro Namath on Oct 8, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That just means

you have an unhealthy emotional attachment to the Jets if you feel a fan’s actions reflect the franchise. And I don’t think Al Davis is a good owner/GM is not out of bounds, nor is it inaccurate. It goes without saying that it sucks when people die.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's just that you're coming across as gloating, or gleeful

Which is despicable and rude, even if you don’t mean to be.

by brundylop on Oct 8, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Show some respect and class

A football legend has died. Today is not the day to be pointing out the bad decisions he has made in the past. Try to reflect on all the good things he did for football.

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by Haggardninja on Oct 8, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

criticizing him

When a person does there does come a time for negative critiques. I just think the issue is going about it how you did over at S&BP in a thread meant for mourning. Start a Fanpost discussing Al Davis or something like that, but I do think it is a little tasteless to unload on the guy in a thread of mourning for Raiders fans.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Plus he's probably risking his life if his address ever gets out

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, it just means I'm a grown human being with empathy

and that I would hold you responsible for representing our SBN blog so poorly.

But that’s just me. I realize it has no bearing on you, your interests, or how you behave.

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by Bro Namath on Oct 8, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I have empathy for a lot of things

an 80 year old quasi-billionaire is not one of them. I wish he, as all of us, could live forever. Saying that his departure is a positive thing for the Raiders, in terms of building a more reputable (and respectable) brand that includes ACTUALLY winning, is neither insensitive or disrespectful.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

it is disrespectful and insensitive....

in a thread where Raiders fans are simply mourning the man. There is a time and place for critiquing him. That was not the thread.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wasn't trying to intefere with their mourning...

…I was actually trying to cheer them up by pointing out that things will only get better from here.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

No you weren't.

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by James Brady on Oct 8, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sometimes the best thing to do after a mistake

is just to own up and apologize.

Trying to explain your way out of this only makes you look worse.

by brundylop on Oct 8, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

comments

If you were actually trying to cheer them up, doing it in such a flippant manner was not going to succeed. And considering how loyal Raiders fans could be to Al Davis I think common sense would dictate that was not a good idea right now.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's lying

you don’t call his death “getting rid of herpes” when you try to console somebody.

by brundylop on Oct 8, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

not lieing

just facetious. Of course it was probably a “mistake” to do that. They didn’t like it, and that’s fair.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh wow

You actually said that? Don’t offer anyone a eulogy

by mcwagner on Oct 8, 2011 11:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Eh, I kinda want my funeral to be not somber

Jim Henson, the Sesame Street/ Muppets guy, requested at his funeral that nobody wear black.

He also requested at the end of the funeral, for a jazz band to play a lively “Saints Go Marching In” which they did.

He was awesome to the end, and beyond.

by brundylop on Oct 8, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

:(

Oh my god, when the actors voice started cracking towards the end…

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by Bro Namath on Oct 8, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

It still amazes me

how you can have a man in a giant yellow bird costume singing in a cathedral, and have it be completely appropriate and sad.

by brundylop on Oct 8, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for sharing...

That was something I have never seen and it brought a tear to my eye. Henson was every bit the genius that Jobs and Al were.

by AptosNinerFan on Oct 8, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I went to my coach's funeral,

he last request was that no one cry and dress in our uniforms. He was always upbeat and optimistic and didn’t want our last memory to be a sad funeral. I gotta say it’s so difficult to honor a request of happiness and optimism during a funeral. One of the saddest moments of my life.

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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 8, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's insensitive if you bash the man's life work on the day he DIES

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's very disrespectful and insensitive.

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by mikeinsp on Oct 8, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Draft strategy

I can’t wait to see how they draft… I’m pretty sure they won’t take the guy who was the fastest 40 anymore, unless it’s a legit player.

Either way… Rip ad

by Kubes069 on Oct 8, 2011 10:55 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

@salarycap

His personel decisions are actually beginning to bear results….mcfadden, moore, mcclain, seymour…

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

My bad I usually use it

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great...

…now they can go back to LA

by ParisRoxanne on Oct 8, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

…and the A’s can tear down Mt. Davis and rebuild the grassy knoll/outfield bleachers @ the Coliseum

by ParisRoxanne on Oct 8, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

1st thing I thought of when hearing the news

by drink409 on Oct 8, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll always hate jabusta russel for betraying the trust of a man

Who only asked for loyalty and hard work

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

don't think offering

his loyalty or hard work would have mattered. Russel wasn’t very good, and neither was Al’s eye for talent. Even dummy Kiffen knew drafting him was a mistake.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Super Bowls

He struggled in recent years, but historically I’d say he had a good eye for talent.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

super bowl 2002? not a win but they were in it. russell messed them up

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 8, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

The game today is all about the QB and the passing game. He picked one of the biggest arms ever and the quickest and fastest players to grace the field. They didn’t work out due to bad coaching and bad work ethics, not due to a lack of talent. If his team would have worked out, we’re talking about one of the most explosive offenses period. Al was always a risk taker, and sometimes it doesn’t pay off. He had the blue print, he had the pieces, they just let him down.

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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 8, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's the nature of the NFL.

You go through periods when you’re winning and periods when you’re losing. Al did both. He is one of the main people for the NFL as we know it today with the merger of the AFL and NFL. People who wanna sit here and bash him on the day of his death are a disgrace to mankind.

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by Drew Kerr on Oct 8, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

And just to point out, they were in a Superbowl only eight years ago… not that it matters though to the direction this comment is being projected toward.

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by Drew Kerr on Oct 8, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

russel had talent; russel just did not give a [site decorum]

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Oct 8, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

Although you could qualify that as Russel not having the “mental talent.”

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's how I would classify it

He did have a titanic arm. Just he had the career model of the Titanic as well

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 8, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm a Raider hater

but you can’t deny the man’s legacy and the mark he left on the game. R.I.P Al

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by 49erLou on Oct 8, 2011 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

What happens to Raider ownership now?

by mcwagner on Oct 8, 2011 11:02 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

son

Kawakami said his son Mark takes over.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read that he said he doesn't want to take over the Raiders.

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by mikeinsp on Oct 8, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that donte whitner quote for real cause if so

That’s awesome lol

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah he said it on twitter

Coach Raye crazy man. Says Yahoo in our training camp,We Didn’t know we had Wifi,cOach Sing says he likes UpGut.com. Bish! - Anthony Dixon

by 49erLou on Oct 8, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Al haunts russel's hallucinations when he's on his purple drank

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Rest In Peace, Al Davis

Sure, he has been at the heart of a lot of jokes around here and the NFL. He has been focused several times on the “Caption This” segment here but today is a day of mourning. Al Davis has done so much for football and was very successful for the Raiders. I tip my hat to the man, his family, and his beloved Raiders.

"When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story." - Barney Stinson

by Haggardninja on Oct 8, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Son

Has he been active in the organization?

by gee man on Oct 8, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I know that there's alot of Raiders haters here

…but growing up in the east I never had a problem with them, my hatred is exclusively reserved for anything from that overrated bag of hot air NY

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

So I guess all the Raider Nation will be wearing black..

Oh wait they always wear black…..

Not a raider hater and certainly not a Davis fan however I think his passing will be tough for a while on the Raider fan base but in the long run will be good for the Raiders and the NFL. RIP Al…

by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 8, 2011 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

RIP Al Davis

NFL legend.

Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)

by teekay on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Was Al Davis one of the few reasons the Raiders were in Oakland?

I’m not sure if his death means the supposed move to LA became more real, especially if it’s true that his son Mark isn’t all gung ho about this.

by brundylop on Oct 8, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

My earliest football memory is the Catch...

…but I was an Oakland then LA Raiders fan as a child. Thanks for those memories, Al.

by Bigmouth on Oct 8, 2011 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

As a Niner fan. I just want to remind all about our own issues with ownership

Most know but few will remember the pain and anguish the Forty Niner organisation went through as a result of the Eddie D. fiasco. The team and we as fans went from the top of the hill to the bottom when the team transitioned from Eddies hands to his sisters. Even now the team is are trying to rebuild from the ashes under the the leadership of Jed. So please have a heart and give the raiders and their fan base a break.. There is a tough road ahead for them.

by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 8, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

why remind of of something that has no relevance.

Eddie was a great owner and his daughter.son in law are cheap…far from the owner that blackouts his games to his fans and runs the team in the ground to prove a point. I agree RIP and he has a legacy that will live on forever but please let us not get into an ownership issue between the 2 because there is none.

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by Sammallory on Oct 8, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

eddie D had the benefits of no salary cap

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al doesn't black out the game

The PSLs that nobody wanted to pay for kept the games from selling out so the league blacked them out within 100 miles

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 8, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

My comment was hidden? lol

Im just sticking up for good ol’ al

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

no

The previous comment was hidden and it hides every reply.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not you.

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by mikeinsp on Oct 8, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah ok

Anyways time to take the dog for a hike! RIP AL you were the man

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

by jimisoursavior on Oct 8, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

As a fan of football

I grew up to respect the game, and our rivals. While i do have teams that i hate, the raiders were really never one of them especially after our recent dominance over them. I reserve my hatred for the heavy hitters of the nfl. All I have to say is while their franchise is in shock at the moment they will be ok. I give my condolences to the raiders organization and RIP Al Davis

by Zintzun22niner on Oct 8, 2011 11:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Even BustatheRippa wouldn't have trolled something like this

Especially going to the Raiders blog to do so.

Lot of respect for Davis. Sincere commitment to fair hiring before the old men in the NFL were forced to do, doing things on his terms, his tenure in the AFL, etc. Titan of the game.

by Gitaroo_Dude on Oct 8, 2011 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm pretty sure he would have

and the only thing that would have kept him from going to the Raiders blog to troll is the 24 hour rule.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 8, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

RIP Al

I’ve always hated everything Raiders but it’s truly sad when someone like this actually dies. I wish the best for his family.

by Chefantone on Oct 8, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't know why I was so surprised to read this.

But I was. Sad day. Sad week, actually, two pioneers died. Anyway, rest in peace old Al.

by madmatt on Oct 8, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Did Mike Shanahan and Al Davis get along?

by MinerNiner on Oct 8, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Shanahan's best friend died earlier this week

I don’t think he would be so tasteless the revel in another man’s death.

by mcwagner on Oct 8, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why people are like that.

Just no respect at all.

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by mikeinsp on Oct 8, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd bet good money

Mike Shanahan is not smiling at his death. Let’s keep this on the high road.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He knew who his bread and butter was

and he always treated the players as such, the very center of his existence.

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by Bro Namath on Oct 8, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loyalty was certainly Al's greatest strength

Players liked him — at least the one Al liked, and showed with his wallet — and they had good reasons to like him. Al was a very decent man to those in the organization who were loyal in return.

But the reasons you cite really are precursors to sustained futility rather than a commitment to success.

No other owner would have given huge contracts to unproven players, stuck by failures like Russell, and fire coaches that wouldn’t work with his current team

There are good reasons owners don’t give huge contracts to unproven players (except the NFL draft, which is mandated) — doing so often enough leads to salary cap issues and sustained mediocrity. Giving $$$ to undeserving players is not an asset, it is a flaw and business suicide.

And all owners fire head coaches that don’t produce (too many and too often, in my view)

Al was never shy when it came to huge extensions, whether you deserved them or not, he took care of you

Why is this a good quality to have in an owner? So if Al likes you, whether you can play or not, you were going to get paid. Bad business that leads to bad teams.

even when you’re a huge disappointment, he still believed in you

This trait does not bode well for anyone in any profession. Believing in someone who has not provided adequate reasons to be believed in. Hmmm….this is, again, part of AD and the Raiders downfall, not something to be used to commemorate him with.

He stuck with Jamarcus longer than any one would have, and many would think Al was foolish and ignorant, but he was just doing what he always has been, being loyal

I don’t think 3 years is a long time, but how did drafting him, and then sticking with him, turn out? Again, saying this is not a compliment; it almost seems like you are trying to bash him unintentionally. Al was foolish and ignorant, and he admitted so in so many words when he cut him. I give him credit for only wasting 3 years as opposed to the 7 and counting the niner org. has given AS.

When Kiffin didn’t believe in Russell, he was gone

Ummm, that’s not why Kiffen was fired. Kiffen NEVER believed in Russell. AD admitted Kiffen urged him not to draft JM. He fired Kiffen for insubordination and a sense that he was sabatoging the Raiders in order to get fired and collect his pay. As I said earlier, firing Kiffen in the way AD did was awesome.

Even in his frail state, he was still trying to be involved with his team as much as possible vs. retiring and living the rest of his life in the Bajamas

Yes, at the expense of the franchise’s success.

by salary_cap on Oct 8, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Salary_Cap, you are not understanding the bigger picture here.

We are not evaluating the success or failures of the Raiders, period. Can you grasp that concept? We are reflecting upon the life of a very important football figure and simply mourning the loss of a life. That is why people are upset when you posts things such as “herpes face” and “it’s good for the Raiders.” Just for a second, put down your statistics and all that, we are simply reflecting on Al’s life and his passion. Then you can understand my post instead of nit picking at it and trying to stir a debate. Because I will not debate with you, I’m am enjoying what Al Davis has done for football and that is all my friend. He was a great football figure, no one can or will ever take that away from him.

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by afrikabamboodle on Oct 8, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

obvious troll is obvious

Coach Raye crazy man. Says Yahoo in our training camp,We Didn’t know we had Wifi,cOach Sing says he likes UpGut.com. Bish! - Anthony Dixon

by 49erLou on Oct 8, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's been doing it for months now

His comments here make a lot of what he’s said in the past much clearer to me…

by Virginia9er on Oct 8, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dee Bag Alert!

Dee Bag Alert!

Dee Bag Alert!

by mr. instigator on Oct 8, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

please stop

I disagree with the way he responded, but this is not any better.

by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

RIP Al

One can argue that nobody affected the NFL more.

by Ni9er on Oct 8, 2011 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

One could also argue

that nobody was a bigger fan of the game of football.

Justin Smith is something else. 100% Effort! 100% Class!

"I was just running toward the ball," Smith said. "The guys in front of him were making him slow up a little bit. I just went for the ball and, luckily, it was there."

by riderless on Oct 8, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's so weird how suddenly the present is eclipsed by the past whenever someone passes away

He has been a thorn in the side of Raider fans for a decade now, but today all I can think is how he started as a player and worked his way through coaching, managing, and even as commisioner of the league until he finally managed to own his team.

His Raiders were great, maybe the greatest of all teams, when he first took over. His legacy may have been tarnished by his stubborness, but in the whole he was pretty damn accomplished.

Rest in Peace.

Play to Win!
Justin Smith is my new hero.

by Pat Willie on Oct 8, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd say his stubborness IS part of his legacy.

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 8, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big Al

no one else would bring in the misfits and castoffs like al “and make it work!”

by magoonya on Oct 8, 2011 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

You missed an even more important connection between the 49ers and Davis

It was Al Davis who brokered the sell of the 49er franchise to the DeBartolo family. He acted as the go-between.

by smileyman on Oct 8, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Denise DeBartolo remembers

that evening in her statement on Al Davis. John York, Trent Baalke, and Coach Harbaugh also released statements. Harbaugh’s is poignant and poetic.

by McTee on Oct 8, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Oct 8, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1,000000000

Coach Raye crazy man. Says Yahoo in our training camp,We Didn’t know we had Wifi,cOach Sing says he likes UpGut.com. Bish! - Anthony Dixon

by 49erLou on Oct 8, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al Davis jokes

were only funny because his eddgy choices worked sometimes. Davis had as much failure as he had success, but I think no one can dispute that he was an innovator, and the game of football was better because of his efforts.

RIP Al Davis, and I’m sure that the angel that escorts you to NFL heaven runs the 40 in 4.3 seconds

by reedkrase on Oct 8, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

RIP Al Davis

although he has been making some questionable moves for the past 5-7 years, his legacy will be known for his commitment to the NFL and the earlier years of the Raiders dynasty.

Not to be mean or anything, or be offensive, BUT I am sure Hue is relieved, now that he doesn’t have someone hunching over his back.

by Giants49war on Oct 8, 2011 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

EIP Al Davis

Sure we poked fun of the kinda loony way he ran the Ray-Duhz the last 10 years or so. But that should not detract at ALL from the numerous things Al did for the game of Football. The NFL benefited from the presence of Al Davis. How many owners can you really say that about? Many saw him as a character, but I always viewed him with the perspective of time and accomplishments. Let’s show respect where it is rightly deserved. I still dont like the Ray-DUHZ, and will most likely never like them. But Davis transcended the ownership of one team. He WAS the NFL for many years in the 70’s and early 80’s. Rest in Peace Al. He just wanted to win baby.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Oct 8, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

As a lifelong Niner fan and Raider hater...

I hope the Raiders destroy the Texans tomorrow and go on to have a great year. Al, like most mavericks was an enigma. Mostly good, some bad and fascinating to the end. R.I.P. Mr. Davis.

by AptosNinerFan on Oct 8, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe

They’ll stop drafting track stars and actually draft football players now

by MarineVet49erFan on Oct 9, 2011 12:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

One of the best things about the Combine and Draft. Could figure out who Al was drafting than gleefully rewarded when Al drafted the speedster.

by bignerd on Oct 9, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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