Will Kyle Orton end up in the NFC West?
by smileyman on Nov 23, 2011 10:30 AM PST
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PrintEdit: And he ends up with Kansas City. I'm actually surprised that the Colts didn't make a claim on him but I guess they're definitely deciding to blow off the rest of the season to get the QB they want in the draft.
Yesterday the Denver Broncos announced that they were releasing Kyle Orton. This is a rather shocking turn of events in my opinion.
"I spoke with Kyle earlier today and thanked him for everything he did for the Broncos," coach John Fox said in a statement. "He was a true professional throughout this season. I've got a great deal of respect for him as both a player and as a person.
"This was the right decision for our football team. We feel good about our quarterback group, and this gives Kyle an opportunity to help another team and showcase his talents."
The team was 1-4 under him this year, but I don't think you can blame him entirely for that. Bench him, yes, but cut bait and run? I guess the Broncos really do have faith in Tim Tebow as their guy going forward, or else they're planning on making moves in the draft to get a QB to compete for a job.
Just last year Orton threw for 3,653 yards. The year before that it was 3,802 yards. Both years he averaged 7 yards an attempt or more and both years he threw for 20 tds or more. Both years that yardage total.
With a whole host of quarterback injuries throughout the league Orton won't be out of a job long. He'll definitely be claimed off waiver wires by a team, the only question is which team?
Chicago
Jay Cutler is out indefinitely. Possibly six weeks, possibly the season. In Chicago he has the best chance of going to the playoffs. The team is rolling, the defense is playing good, the offensive line is working finally and Matt Forte is pounding the rock. He'd only be a backup though and would probably be released at the end of the season. He's not in their long term plans.
Houston
Matt Schaub is likely done for the season due to a foot injury. The guy at the helm there is Matt Leinart who couldn't keep the job in Arizona. I can't think that the coaching staff is comfortable with that situation and Orton could likely move right in and start. However the same situation applies there as with Chicago--Orton might end up starting but he'd most likely be gone the next season.
Kansas City
Matt Cassel broke his hand playing against the Denver Broncos and is also done for the season. The replacement is Tyler Palko. Again I can't imagine that the coaching staff is too thrilled with that idea, and if they could get Orton they'd jump in glee at paying him $4 million to be their starting QB for the year. However the team stinks and won't make the playoffs. Then Orton would have to face the prospect of finding another job after Cassel returns in 2012.
I actually think that the NFC West is the most likely landing spot for Kyle Orton. There are at least two teams who could use a new starting quarterback and another team that could use an experienced backup quarterback to fill in.
Bradford has already missed two games this season. He's been sacked 37 times this year, which is more than any other quarterback (even after missing those two games). Chances are he'll get hurt again and the Rams don't have a quality backup. Orton's $4.5 million salary is a little more than most backups make, but it might be worth it for insurance purposes. Of course the team has to deal with Bradford's massive contract too and it might not be wiling to pay so much for two quarterbacks.
Amazingly the Seahawks are at 4-6, but they've also played a weak schedule. Last week they beat the Rams on the strength of Tavaris Jackson's 14/24 for 148 yards and 1 td. I'm sure they would love an experienced signal caller like Kyle Orton there. Would they be willing to pay him the $4 million he's due? Maybe not--they did let Matt Hasselbeck go and he was a far better option than any QB they had at the time.
I don't think I need to say anymore about the Cardinals. They paid a massive salary to Kolb who has done nothing. They've gone through more backup QBs than anybody else in the league. Last week against the 49ers they went through two backup QBs and neither one was exactly outstanding. Orton would be a blessing for them and might give their fanbase some home of eking out 6 wins on the season. Of course they would still need to find room on their roster for his salary plus Kolb's ridiculous contract.
So here's how the waiver wire works. The teams with the worst record gets to choose first, then on down the line. Teams with the same record break the tie based on strength of schedule. Right now the order for claiming Orton based on the teams I've listed would go like this:
St. Louis
Arizona
Kansas City
Seattle
Houston
Chicago
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Start Tebow, Release Orton?
He’s not the greatest quarterback, but how insulting is this?
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As a long time Broncos fan, I gotta say
Watching Orton get trotted out on the field every week and knowing he was going to GIVE the games away… that was insulting. You think AS was tough to watch at times… Orton was WAY worse.
It is always funny to have people that do not follow a team closely comment on their changes. Believe me, Orton was done in Denver, for sure. Since the trade deadline is gone, releasing him is by far the best thing that could have happened to Orton. He will catch on with a team that needs his services. They were not all that in demand before the season when teams were desperate enough to put Grossman, McNabb, Hasslebeck, Jackson, and Klob in the starting lineup or they were willing to go with unproven rookies rather than Orton. His best chance to get a good deal is now, while some teams are desperate and there are no draftees to over hype. Make no mistake, this was for Orton’s benefit more than the Broncos and it speaks to the fact that Orton has not been a complete tool this year (unlike last year).
Really, could you imagine if Alex Smith were to come out after a beat down at home by Seattle while Pete is doing his high fives and say something stupid like… ain’t no big deal, it is just spilt milk… Would you want that guy leading your team?
So pretty insulting then?
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Dolphins why has no one connected the dots!
they wanted him in the offseason but didnt like what the broncos were demanding now hes free
Miami FO has to be forever drunk
They want Orton, Moore and Chad Henne as their QB committee
Bears
How ironic would this be? Bears traded a 1st and 5th round pick to get cutler and in the same deal gave Dever a 3rd round pick to take Orton out of Chicago and now they might have to take him back for nothing.
If Orton ends up back in Chicago, seems like the bears should get their third round pick back.
I doubt Orton would go, send the big FU message.
I don't want to be greedy, but I want it to be useful, because if everybody agrees that they're more predictable, we know what we're going to get week to week, then why not? Why say: "Good year. We went to the playoffs. We went one-and-out. But, boy, next year! Look what we can do!" No, we're here! -S Young
Most people voted for the Bears
I’m assuming because he previously played there. But Martz is running that offense now, he didn’t when Orton was there before. That offense is very complex as we all know, and I can’t see Orton stepping in right away and helping them at all. And would Martz even want him? Hanie is much more familiar with the offense, which clearly is important to Martz, as evidenced by starting JT O’Sullivan (barf) over Hill and Smith, just because O’Sullivan knew the offense a little from their time in Detroit together. I think he ends up in KC, because Palko is terrible and they won’t win the division with him, but COULD win it if they roll the dice with Orton. They are only 2 games out, so it makes most sense for them. Seattle is riding a mini hot streak and may not want to disrupt their upward trend. And is Orton really an upgrade over Leinart? He may be more proven, but I’d take Leinart, who knows the playbook, over Orton who doesn’t. Makes zero sense for Arizona and St. Louis.
I think also that Washington makes sense, for beyond this season. And maybe Detroit, as a one season injury insurance for Stafford, because as it stands now if he gets hurt they are screwed.
Not to mention the bad blood
Orton does not play well at all when there are footsteps behind him. I do not see any way Lovie puts this season in Kyle Orton’s hands!
Compensatory pick
The Broncos gave up their rights to the pick by waiving Orton. Any team who picks him up gets insurance with a vet back up and if they let him go at the end of the season they would get the pick.
Yep...
They’re doing it to clear space.
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Miami
I don't want to be greedy, but I want it to be useful, because if everybody agrees that they're more predictable, we know what we're going to get week to week, then why not? Why say: "Good year. We went to the playoffs. We went one-and-out. But, boy, next year! Look what we can do!" No, we're here! -S Young
It made a lot more sense at the beginning of the year
At this point, I agree
Houston is out...
Schefter tweeted that Houston was going to sign Kellen Clemons and Schaub was placed on IR. That team now belongs to Leinart for the rest of the season; for better or worse.
I don’t think the NFC West is going to be the spot where he ends up. Rams have Bradford and no need for Orton the rest of this year; Cards have Kolb on a long-term, big money deal so they won’t demean themselves and Kolb by bringing in Orton; the Seahags I think will be fine with Jackson for now and then will look to draft a top QB next year. They won’t want to bring him in now for the next six weeks with no chance of making the playoffs only to see him go to FA in the offseason. They might consider him after this year but not now.
Most likely destination is KC. They are still mathematically very much in the playoff hunt in that division. Also, with Cassel not playing particularly well, they could coax Orton there by saying he can potentially play his way into a new contract and legitimate chance to compete for the starting job next year with Cassel.
I saw that with the Chiefs too...
hence my vote on the topic.
I do think Seattle is a possibility, though. With things going as they are (as in 2nd place in the NFC West), Seattle has no guarantee that a top-tier QB will be available by the time they draft in the 1st round. And even then is it a situation where they’d want to throw the rookie into the fire, so to speak?
I think Orton makes sense for Seattle because it gives them someone who could start next year if a good choice at QB doesn’t fall to them in the draft. And it also gives them a good vet who could start next year if they draft that QB and want him to have time to mature.
Seattle really is just a good QB away from being a playoff contender. I mean, they have some holes in their roster. But I think they’re better positioned to be perennial division contenders than, say, Arizona.
Seattle actually had the most difficult strength of schedule by record before the Rams game
And 5th most difficult by DVOA. The Niners have actually had one of the weaker SoS’s.
by Matt Erickson on Nov 23, 2011 11:19 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Did I read somewhere that the Jets picked up Orton? Espn, I think?
Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!
by 23mjheart on Nov 23, 2011 11:32 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If that's true
He’d probably be an improvement over Sanchez.
It might make sense for the Seahawks to try and grab him, among NFC West teams. This season is probably over for them, but…
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by lottwasgangsta on Nov 23, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
We should get him! Alex Smith sucks this year! TOTAL BUST
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Or we can try to trade Bruce Miller for Orton
It’s not Bruce can throw touchdowns either.
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Can't see Orton going back to Chicago.
Just can’t. Poll results notwithstanding.
I bet he'll go there or Texans...
If I were him, personally, I would try and go to KC so I could kick the crap outta the Broncos for doing him like that.
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Orton reportedly asked for his release
immediately after Jay Cutler went down for the season. Back to Chicago makes sense.
Or he could be claimed by Kansas City
See, my hindsight predictions are perfect. I just had to consult the spirits (NFP News) first.
Of course, if he refuses to play Kansas City could always call Chicago or another suitor and try to wrangle some draft picks out of him. Or wait, no they can’t — trade deadline is long gone.
Orton is boned. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. If he refuses to play he risks losing the remainder of his contract and possibly his free agent status next year.
Welcome to Kansas City Kyle — where quarterbacking careers go to die.
I could see Orton asking for a release
knowing he wouldn’t be seeing the field in Denver again this season and seeing a bunch of QBs go down with injuries and a bunch of other teams with really iffy QB situations.
Just voted Chiefs , after i found out they claimed him ...!!
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I like Orton to the Texans
He’s do well there, and Leinart Sucks
Blue collar means we go to work, we do our job, we go home to our families. We don't ask for special treatment, and we don't take any crap.
We are just here to do our job to the best of our abilities, and we take pride in our work. You might not be impressed while you watch us work, if you cannot understand what we are doing. But when you see what we have accomplished you will be impressed.
We are blue collar, we are the ones who built every thing you see.
That's good enough, same division
Gives him a chance to make the Bronco’s pay.
Blue collar means we go to work, we do our job, we go home to our families. We don't ask for special treatment, and we don't take any crap.
We are just here to do our job to the best of our abilities, and we take pride in our work. You might not be impressed while you watch us work, if you cannot understand what we are doing. But when you see what we have accomplished you will be impressed.
We are blue collar, we are the ones who built every thing you see.
I know this was brought up earlier
But I am not sure how you can say the Seahawks have played a weak schedule.
@SF
@Pitt
@NY
@Dallas
Atlanta
Baltimore
Cinci
7 out of 10 teams 6-4 or better and competing for playoff spots. A FG at the end versus Atlanta and a legit punt return for a TD not getting called back on a bogus block in the back call versus Cleveland and the Seahawks could be 6-4 fairly easily.
Btw… Congrats on the season the 49ers have had so far. Very impressive.
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