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49ers Vs. Ravens: Notable Stats And Performances

The 49ers did not come away with a tenth victory Thursday night, but they still had some notable performances. We'd trade them all for a win, but that's just not the way life is, so we'll just have to live with it.

The 49ers defense did manage to run their touchdown and 100-yard rusher streaks a game further. They have no allowed a rushing touchdown in twelve consecutive games and they have no allowed a 100-yard rusher in the last 33 games. The touchdown streak appeared in jeopardy when the Ravens got down to the one-yard line, but the defense stopped Ray Rice on second and goal at the one for a four yard loss. They followed that with a stop of Joe Flacco as he seemed intent on running a QB keeper.

The issue was that the Ravens picked apart the 49ers pass defense. They didn't put up monster passing totals, but they were having little trouble moving the ball for stretches of the game and it did not appear to be any adjustments to that. It's something the defense needs to figure out over the next ten days because teams will key on that as the playoffs approach.

Star-divide

Stifling Defense

  • Dating back to last season, the 49ers defense has not allowed a rushing TD in 12 consecutive games, which ranks 2nd in team history.
  • The 49ers defense is the only team in the NFL to not allow a rushing TD in the first 11 games of the 2011 season. The current 11-game streak to not allow a rushing TD ranks t-1st in the NFL since 1970.
  • The 49ers defense has not allowed a TD in the first half in each of the past 5 games, which is the longest streak in franchise history and the most in the NFL since the Dallas Cowboys had 5 consecutive in 2008.

Run Defense Continues Streak

  • The 49ers run defense has not allowed a 100-yd. rusher in the last 33 games, which marks the longest active streak in the NFL. Since the start of the 2000 season, the 49ers streak of 33 games without allowing a 100-yd rusher ranks third in the NFL.
Knocking It Out
  • The 49ers defense registered 3 PDs on the day vs. the Ravens, giving them 80 for the season. The 80 PDs rank first in the NFL this season.
  • The team is on pace to record 117 PDs on the season, which would be the 2nd most by the team since the stat was first tracked in 1991 (120 PDs – 1998, 112 PDs – 1993, and 110 PDs - 1995).

What a Weapon

  • David Akers connected on a 52-yd. FG in the 3rd qtr. at Bal., marking his 6th 50+ yd. FG this season. Akers joins Cle. K Phil Dawson (6-6) and Jax. K Josh Scobee (5-5) as the only kickers in the NFL to be perfect from 50+ yds. (min. 4 atts.).
  • With 6 FGs made from 50+ yds. this year, Akers is t-1st in the NFL [Oak. K Sebastian Janikowski (5-6), Jax. K Josh Scobee (5-5)] for the most FGs from 50+ yds., trailing only Cle. K Phil Dawson (6-6). 

Pro Bowl Punting

  • Andy Lee punted the ball 5 times at Bal., averaging 57.6 yds. per punt, marking the 3rd highest average in the NFL this season (min. 4 punts) for a single game.
  • Lee had a net punting average of 48.0 which is the 5th highest in the NFL this season.

Extending Their Streaks

  • TE/LS Brian Jennings has now played in 187 consecutive games.
  • DT Justin Smith has now started 166 consecutive games, dating back to his rookie season in 2001. Smith's consecutive start streak ranks 3rd among defensive players and 5th among all NFL players.
  • TE Vernon Davis has now started 70 consecutive games, which ranks 3rd in the NFL among TE's behind Tony Gonzalez (80) and Jason Witten (78).

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I’ve just suddenly become a hater of Braylon Edwards, injury or not.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 10:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

He apologizes for not playing in an offense

that is capable of taking advantage of his abilities. At least you admit to disliking players for irrational reasons by calling yourself a hater. For some, it seems bad production (i.e. stats) = bad player. Amazing.

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It is more of an effort thing for me than production, that INT wasn’t a good throw at all, but he didn’t show much interest in helping out the team on that play…but feel free to respond to anything I say with contrarian opinions.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I know huh

he should have jumped over the top and caught it like vernon or at least try to knock it down, but thats just me.

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We accept that apology

But what we’d really like is an explanation for half running a route, giving up position 10 yards into it, and then pulling at the defenders hair as he went for the pick instead of making a play on the ball.

by Ougadas on Nov 24, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh... duh?
it seems bad production = bad player

ClaYton Kershaw, Giant Killa | KeMVP #BEASTMODE

"If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." - Jim Harbaugh

by mikeinsp on Nov 24, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

correlation does not = causation. ….especially for NFL WR’s.

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

you hate

Edwards and DJax, so I’m guessing you love Kyle Williams and Josh Hill?

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I never said I hate DJax, I said he isn’t some magical fix for this offense (which isn’t in need of an instant fix anyway).

And what tha fuck does Josh Hill have to do with anything, whoever that is anyway, I’m not sure he plays in the NFL.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

who said he is a magical fix

to our offense? A deep threat game breaker like DJ will always have minimal impact anways with a QB that doesn’t like throwing it past 10 yards. I just think denying he’d help any team is absurd, though his impact would vary depending on the team. A few were saying he would not be an improvement to our WR core. That floors me.

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You've yet to show that he's a deep threat game breaker

and if his impact is as a deep threat game breaker, and if as you say the QB doesn’t throw it past 10 yards, than how in the world would he be better than the guys we have on the team right now?

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve yet to show that he’s a deep threat game breaker

Because I’ve assumed you watch the NFL with some regularity and have known all the big plays this guy has made. If you don’t, my apologies.

I don’t think it would be wisefor the niners to give a player like DJ lots of money so long as AS is the QB. But his presence would, to some degree, large or small, be an asset to the team and an imporvement, however underutilized he would be here.

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That's odd

Because I am watching the NFL and I’m not seeing big plays from DJ — I’m not even seeing many routine plays from DJ. What I am seeing is drops, lots of mediocre to good corners completely taking him out of the game, and trying to go deep to him so often that they stall out their own offense.

Maybe you should watch the NFL with some regularity and stop watching highlights from 09.

by Ougadas on Nov 24, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Just because everybody says a thing

doesn’t make it so. This isn’t 2009, when you could legitimately argue that Desean Jackson was a game changer.

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's the messed up thing about the NFL

One good year where you make some highlight reel plays and you are great forever.

In the real world one good year in four is an anomaly and people start asking questions as to why.

Then again, the NFL is in the business of hero worship.

by Ougadas on Nov 24, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

the only thing reputable NFL observers

and even semi-retarded fans have to criticize DJ is his immaturity and selfishness, which are warranted — not his WR skills and talent.

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If only Jackson would/could use all of his alleged talent to be a really good WR.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

So one touchdown in 10 games

makes him a great wide receiver and a game breaker? 1 game out of every 5 where he gets 100 yards receiving or more makes him a game changer?

You have a weird definition of what a game changer is

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Calvin, Fitz, Andre…these are guys that show up every week and are game changers.

DJax is not in their class…at all.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Right

now is DJax better than Ginn and Edwards? Maybe. Is he enough better than them to put up with his attitude and immaturity? I don’t think so.

But being better than the 49ers #3 and #4 wide receivers really isn’t hard to do. It’s certainly not enough to get you the label of game changer.

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, those are the game changers,

guys who consistently step up in games and make plays on the ball. Today, Edwards jogged a route, let a smaller defender box him out of the play, and refused to make even a token attempt to break up the interception. When we played the Eagles, Jackson pulled a similar stunt; he actually ran his route, but then stood around looking stupid while Whitner intercepted the pass and had a decent return. (I believe it was Whitner that made the pick, but I could be mistaken.) It’s really disgusting seeing an NFL player just give up on a play.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

it seems to me that

really what you guys are arguing about is the definition of a game changer. When I hear game-changer, I think of players who CHANGED the game of FOOTBALL. Not just a factor from game to game. Players such as Jerry Rice, Lawrence Taylor, Michael Irvin (don’t like him but he brought about the pushing off penalty, thus changed the game). No, i would hate a DJ signing. No, I doubt he would help us out this year, or next. His attitude and his tendency to take plays off will only amplify here.

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It isn’t just about how much he’d improve the WR core (which isn’t that much), it is also about his actual value for the contract he’d demand. It certainly isn’t enough of an improvement.

With your dislike of Alex, I’m actually concerned you’d actually want DeSean at all…

Additionally, the argument of DJax has almost nothing to do with what happened in tonight’s game whatsoever.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Give it up:

QB that doesn’t like throwing it past 10 yards.

You definitely haven’t been watching Alex Smith recently. He is taking a lot of shots down field (when he is given time)

Over

by cybermaldonado on Nov 25, 2011 1:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's to

This being like the Dallas loss and the Niners go on long win streak, AMIRITE?!?

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 24, 2011 10:46 PM PST reply actions  

I'd rather go 14-2

and win the Super Bowl than 16-0 and lose it.

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I would rather have a cold than cancer

by salary_cap on Nov 24, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

But the Pack might. And the Patriots did.

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

yes i know

i didn’t inject the correct level of sarcasm there

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

no!

we need to go on a 1993 49er run after the Philly flub. Championship! ..YEAH…

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

'94

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

1994 season, January ’95 SB.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

oops

brain fart. too much turkey

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mislead ya

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

8 game win streak ended

If we win our next three, we’re Super Bowl champs. So, let’s do it again shall we..

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The haters are coming out of the woodwork now...

Mike Freeman on CBSSports.com is already calling out the Niners and how we’d have no chance against the Packers.. even though the Packers are a completely different type of team from the Ravens…

Oh wait… He also stated we got our 9-2 record from picking on the NFC West…

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

Good

I was uncomfortable with all this praise anyways.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 24, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Win

on the field. Not with the media. (Thankfully this isn’t college…)

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Today didn’t enlighten me, your comments this entire season already did.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

fukin biased fool

their all biased. they support the east and battle the west, but you know what the niners will prove them wrong in the postseason when we win the superbowl and beat the packers.

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

uggh

Drives me crazy when people don’t check their facts first. Why should I bother reading the rest of the column if he’s going to spout off that kind of stuff?

by David Fucillo on Nov 24, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

At least we now know he's an idiot when it comes to the NFL

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

They were to tired

the o-line was to tired and they need some rest remember against arizona the offense had 45 min of total possesion. let the o-line rest we have 10 days and then the rams. That pittsburgh game on mnf is going to show all the nation how good we are when we are well rested.

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

For all the naysayers of the Niners

in the Niners vs Packers debate, I think if the Packers have been playing in Baltimore tonight, they would have been beat by the Ravens as well.

The Ravens are definitely a top 3 team… their problem is massive inconsistency. Tonight, they would have been up to the challenge.

This wasn’t a bad loss. It gave us a lot to think about next time we have to go on the road against a big opponent… Likely in the playoffs.

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

I think

Raven score more than 16 on the Packers. I think Ray Rice tears them a new one. I think the Packers have a lot of holes but haven’t met the right team to properly expose them.

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

true. i thought kevin smith

had a shot at running all day on them, but got hurt early. Also Suh went all Suh too.

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The Packers defense is not very good.

I’m probably even being charitable by not explicitly stating that they suck. The Packers wouldn’t have to score less than 16 points to lose, they’d probably have to score less than 27 or so. I may even be over-estimating their ability with that score reference.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I think the 49ers could run the ball all day long on the Packers defense. That’s the bets way to limit what Aaron Rodgers can do to you

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well the Ravens have deeper problems that we didn't expose

Flacco a guy that you have to pressure and force to beat you. You can’t sit back and give up the intermediate route tree all day long — that just gives them what they want — Flacco isn’t pressured and he can just calmly play pitch and catch in the zone seams.

The Ravens on the other hand did exactly the opposite, like always, and that is why we go back home with the loss.

by Ougadas on Nov 24, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It's eery how similar the two teams are

the Ravens and the 49ers are almost clones in how they’re built.

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Scary similar

I’m not really excited about becoming Ravens West.

by Ougadas on Nov 24, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

What I don’t get is how people think the way to beat a team like GB is to outscore them. The same was said about the ‘98 Vikings, ’01 Rams, & ’07 Patriots. The latter two were beaten by defense-first teams that controlled the ball on offense and kept the score down. You don’t beat a great team at their game, you make them play the way they least prefer. Niners are the only NFC team that can for sure do that to GB. If NY had a running game or Chicago a healthy Cutler they too would have a chance.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

well to be fair

you never win if you don’t outscore the opposing team, but I get what you’re sayin’

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Nov 24, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The Ravens probably played their best game of the season tonight

The Niners were not able to match that and I agree, the RAvens probably would have beaten Green Bay tonight playing like that. If we played the Ravens 10 times, it would likely end up 5-5, but they were the best team tonight and there’s no point crying over it.

by suffrin9erfan on Nov 25, 2011 12:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Michael Irvin is laughing it up

Irvin from nfl network is probably laughing it up. he hates alex and after what happened today he is probably saying “i told you so” even though everything wasnt alexs fault

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

Oline was simply not ready for the fronts

even Gore missed a few blocks.

And yet, despite the terrible Oline play, this game came down to a few plays\calls.

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Nov 24, 2011 11:12 PM PST reply actions  

Funny you wold go there

    I brought up the holes in our secondary in apost a few weeks prior, and most people here on NN said I was panicing, and winning was all that mattered. We must get our pass defense together. If it’s not Terrell Brown getting abused. It’s Carlos odgers with this bend don’t break routine allowing eveything underneath. But compared to our poor offensive line play the secondary was great only allowing 170 yrds by Flacco n Company. We did’nt put any pressure on Flacco. No blitzing schemes at all. Just send the D-Line, and hope the secondary holds. On the upside we hve done an OK job so far this season at 9-2. Wew must get better in this area. O-line may have suffered from the sure week, and lack of film study time on Baltimores defense.

by STELF BOMBZ on Nov 24, 2011 11:13 PM PST reply actions  

i felt the defense was great

The oline clearly struggled. I just chalk this up to away game against a good team that matches up well with us and a short week. Still not worried until I see a glaring trend

by mcwagner on Nov 24, 2011 11:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Pass D

only gave up 161 yds tonight. Not bad. The main problem I saw was 2 big back to back 3rd down conversions by the Ravens where the receivers were able to break tackles/push for the 1st.

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Most missed tackles by or guys all season

You think the ultra short week and travel had anything to do with that?

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This...

the rest of the year the niners have rarely miss a tackle on those big plays. Tonight Whitner, Bowman, and a couple others didn’t wrap up. Small mistakes that I bet Fangio will get on them about. But again overall, they played well.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

3rd downs in general tell the overall story of the game (that’s probably true for a lot of games in the NFL and football at any level).

Such a big deal in a game like this with two truly elite defenses where almost every play is 3 ro 4 yards here or there (would love to see a yards per play average, has to be in the 5-6 range max). The game comes down to one team converting 3rd downs and the other not. Some would say the Ravens offense got it done when needed while the 9ers didn’t, some would say the Ravens defense got it done when the 9ers didn’t.

It is a little of both IMO. Either way you slice it, it was two really solid football teams going at it, and the 9ers came up short, I think even the biggest 9er homers thought the Ravens and Steelers both had a really good shot of beating us (Steelers still do, fortunately it is at home).

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yards/play

Niners:170/54 3.1average
Balt:253/58 4.4 average

Tough defense on both sides.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 24, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea

It seemed like that.

2nd and 7
3rd and 4

For both teams all night, and they converted more 3rd downs.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 25, 2011 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

9 sacks to 0

what the hell was that the d coordinater should have added some extra heat.

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 11:16 PM PST reply actions  

And if he did that they would have picked us apart even more..Flacco was making some great short/fast throws out there

Founder of team Omté Caspeen

by Widowwolf on Nov 25, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

please don't mistake me for a member of the Rocky632

fan club, but where were the hb screen passes?? Best way to beat aggressive Defense, well that and throwing hot routes. I was optimistic after seeing the wr screens a few times, but we went away from that very quickly..

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:18 PM PST reply actions  

it wasnt an issue of over aggressiveness

As much as the oline getting manhandled. No scheme would save a RG standing straight up on a majority of plays.

by mcwagner on Nov 24, 2011 11:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

not over-aggressive, just aggressive..

and there are ways around quick pass rushes. Just ask that Rodgers guy.. He has a pretty bad pass blocking line.

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

no he doesn't

Clifton and Sitton are both pro bowl caliber. Bulaga will be soon.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 25, 2011 1:50 AM PST up reply actions  

well they owe it to Rodgers' quick release

and playmaking ability when flushed from the pocket. Qbs and o-line play are not mutually exclusive, and Rodgers makes them appear better. Just watch the vikings or lions game, he faced constant pressure.

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 25, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

according to FO

GB pass protection ranks 22nd as of week 11

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 25, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed: screen pass was mysteriously absent

along with short-drops, timing patterns and quick slants: all of which would have caused the Ravens front to back off a bit. It just looked like they weren’t able to get ready in the three days they had before having to get on a plane.

by suffrin9erfan on Nov 25, 2011 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

you do realize that

for a screen pass to be successful, you need to pull the tackle or the guard to the side of the screen pass. the O-line is already struggling with the Ravens front-4, i dont think they dared to pull anyone off.

having many screens will also likely get you alot of QB hits after the pass is dumped. these hits are much more likely to injure the QB as they are usually unprotected hits full steam head on for reasons mentioned above

because the struggle of the O-line, the Ravens realize that alex cant go deep. they put one linebacker in the middle to clean up all game long. the screen pass is never gonna work in this game.

executing the screen pass requires practice coz of the complex blocking schemes. on a short week, it simply isnt possible.

by hell-oo on Nov 25, 2011 1:26 AM PST up reply actions  

the cowboys head coach knew what to do

when i was watching the cowboys game they mentioned that after their win on sunday he directly began to watch the dolphins film and probably thats what the niners coaching staff didnt do too much.

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 11:22 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt that our coaches slacked off.

I think this loss stems from missing Snyder and Miller. I’m not saying that we would definitely have won of they were playing, but it’s not like we got blown out tonight, so having some pass protection that was remotely competent on even half the plays would have helped immensely.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting if Snyder had not been hurt

If the outcome changes. Certainly possible.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I mean, we probably still lose,

as the Ravens, I don’t know, just seemed more “in to it”, or whatever, but I do think we give up two to three less sacks and score at least three more points with Snyder in, and do even better if Miller also played. I don’t know, it just seems like the offense fell apart in the Cardinals game after Miller was injured, and I just can’t believe that Snyder could possibly play as poorly or worse than Chilo did today. My Grandmother would have done better than Chilo did today. At least she wouldn’t run over and make her only attempt at a block on a player who was already completely blocked.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The entire line struggled

And I have to think that not having more prep time for a defense as talented and with as many fronts as the Ravens played a part. It wasn’t all Chilo; the problem with him is when he gets beat he whiffs, and he was involved in the questionable chop block. I’d bet Snyder wouldn’t have made contact and at least we one great TD pass on an excellent defense.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 25, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

The entire line did struggle,

but it really seems like Davis is completely useless when Chilo is next to him, but plays pretty well when Snyder is next to him. And having just one weak link can screw things up for the entire line, as they struggle to pick up the slack. It may just be the small sample size, or that the other team has a great pass rush, but it really seems like Chilo is so bad, he completely ruins the rest of the line. I just don’t think that it’s a coincidence that Davis has good games while Snyder is in, but looks completely lost when Chilo is in. Same with the rest of the line.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 25, 2011 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

What I noticed with Chilo

Chilo doesn’t just get beat, he doesn’t know who to block. I remember on one sack Chilo just stood there blocking no one, and while Gore was already moving to engage a block, had to switch up to the guy that Chilo should’ve been on, but it was too late and Alex got sacked.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 25, 2011 12:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

If he makes even a token effort to block his guy, than Frank could have blocked his guy, and Alex may have been able to find a receiver.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 25, 2011 12:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Leach vs Norris..

You could see a huge difference between the lead blocking of the 2. Leach played an amazing game lead blocking for the Balt backs.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 24, 2011 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Leach

He’s got my vote for AFC fullback.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

best in the biz

hitting that hole with bad intentions (Leach of course… not Moron)

by itsAteamGAME on Nov 24, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And the 9ers coaches didn’t? Harbaugh said in his Cards postgame he was going to sleep at the facilities if he felt it was necessary.

Even in his short time it is quite clear to me Harbaugh > Garrett.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 24, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Clearly

Garrett’s team struggled to win a home game vs Matt Moore after needing some luck to beat Rex Grossman.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The same Matt Moore who had a career day against us last year :(

I actually have gained a lot of respect for Tony Sparano btw. Was essentially fired last year, except they couldn’t get Harbaugh so he wasn’t, he comes back this year and they start 0-7 while playing more like a 2-3 win team and then they go off and win 3 in a row and in all actuality probably should have beaten Dallas.

Sure they shouldn’t have lost to Dallas today and say, Denver a few weeks ago. They did almost beat teams like the Giants. But for Sparano to even still be there and putting everything he has into the job and actually getting decent performance out of his players (especially on defense) is impressive IMO. He is really the lamest of the ducks in the pond.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 25, 2011 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

So you're saying Garrett is = to Singletary?..

And I agree with the Sparano assessment.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 25, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

to me

It was all about the offensive line.. When Alex had protection he did fine, defense did fine, 16 points is in line with our norm.. The offensive line was atrocious however… 9 sacks is unacceptable..

by 40daysand49ers on Nov 24, 2011 11:22 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Agreed.

I was almost convinced that the o-line was trying to get Smith killed tonight, because I have a hard time believing that any group of people can be as completely worthless as they were tonight.

"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez

Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?

Dobbs is some kind of Young/Smith/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.


by jbrown63 on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

also

Must admit injuries probably is the reason for the o line meltdown.. No miller and we lost snyder..

by 40daysand49ers on Nov 24, 2011 11:23 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Bad streak

Niners have still never scored a TD (that counted) in two games at the Ravens’ stadium.

Niners have also not scored in double digits in the last three games against Baltimore.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

Thankfully

we only play them every 4 years, and if we play them other than that, it’ll be in New Orleans…

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Next time

It’ll be in SF in 2015. Next chance to score a TD in B-more is 2019.

And I really hope both teams are playing on conference championship Sunday for a shot at the Super Bowl.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that for sure?

Why’d we play Tampa Bay 2 years in a row?

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Nov 24, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

How the schedule works you you play an entire NFC division and you play 2 games games against teams that place the same seeding as you in the previous season in the other 2 NFC divisions.

by WolfpackNev on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Interconference is every four years

Intraconference is every three years but you still play one team from each NFC division based on standing the prior year. The NFC West played the NFC South last season. This season the West plays the East, but the Niners still play one team from both the North (Detroit) and South (Tampa) that finished 3rd place last season like we did.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah two of the games each season are based on standing.

That’s why the Rams ended up playing the Packers this year even though the NFC West doesn’t play the NFC North. Both finished in 2nd place in their division last year strangely enough.

by jveezy on Nov 25, 2011 1:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Ouch

Baltimore defense is tough. We knew that. The best hope for the 49ers was to score on defense and limit the Ravens to field goals

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Even though it didn't count

we did get off that big TD pass. That’s something most who didn’t watch the game will not account for. I wonder if the Niners tried that play again… or could try it again..

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

they should have given ginn another oppurtunity

this might be ginns worst game as a niner, his touchdown got erased and he dropped the last pass. but the only succes he had with the dolphins is returns and the streak route the niners should give him more oppurtunities to go long he will out run the db

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 11:28 PM PST reply actions  

Which wr would you like next season with crabtree

the wr core will be crabtree, morgan,williams, ginn and some1 else
draft a reciever this year

by Toluca_Niner_JR on Nov 24, 2011 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

I need a hug

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Nov 24, 2011 11:35 PM PST reply actions  

It's ok bro

We’re gonna smoke the Steelers. Just you wait and see :)

by musamonster on Nov 24, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It's possible for sure

I just can’t get over how bad the loline played. Just wow. I know Snyder was out but that shouldn’t happen with the G position. Chilo will not be on our team next year. I hope Kilgore can step up.

Any good G’s coming up in FA?

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Nov 24, 2011 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

We definitely need depth on the offensive line

it’s scary thin. Today’s game gave me bad flashbacks to the past couple of years. As far as free agents go there’s Ben Grubb of the Ravens and Carl Nicks of the Saints.

by smileyman on Nov 24, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If our biggest prob was the O line being out of gas

then the Steeler game shouldn’t be a problem… it’s a Monday night… 8 days of rest.

by musamonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish we could've seen these teams play with a full week between games

And I would love to see them play on a neutral field after two weeks of hype and prep. It would still be a toss up but I believe we’d see much better play with more prep time. And their d-line would no longer have the stadium crowd at their back.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:45 PM PST reply actions  

We've faced just as good of pass rush this year....

Team Sacks-
1-Baltimore (thanks to the 9 we gave them)
2-Minnesota (Jared Allen having a career year)
3-Giants
4-Washington
5-Dallas
6-Detroit
7-Philly

We gave up-
6-Dallas
2-Detroit
3-Philly
2-Washington
2-Giants

So we’ve faced and conquered good pass rushes this year, actually we’ve faced almost all the top pass rushing teams this year, so why such the EPIC FAIL tonight? What changed besides the obvious (Chilo)?

by Frisco_Kid on Nov 24, 2011 11:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I think Chilo and Norris pretty much sums it up

with a footnote about playing on a short week and the OLine being worn out as a whole

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Nov 24, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

1) Snyder injury = Chilo.

2) We never lead and therefore could not dictate game tempo via play calling.

3) Three days of rest and prep for a great defense in their loud stadium.

4) Suggs had a dominant night as any great player can do.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 24, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd say

1.) Chilo aka “The Matador”

2.) Not enough screens and dump offs

3.) Excellent Raven’s defense.

4.) Fatigue from short week.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 24, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well Chilo is the key I think so I don't know if you can say "besides" Chilo.

I’d hate to keep harping on the guy, but keep in mind he was still rotating with Snyder during the Dallas game.

by jveezy on Nov 25, 2011 1:53 AM PST up reply actions  

12 games w/o a rushing TD

The defense is playing great obviously. Looking at the rest of the league in that time.
Carolina has given up the most rushing Tds with 17. TB, Buff, and Ariz are next giving up 15.
2nd best behind the niners is kind of surprising…..Miami with only 4 rushing tds given up in their last 12 games.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 25, 2011 12:04 AM PST reply actions  

After that PI call I thought for sure it was done for…

CJ Spillman with a huge defensive tackle? What?

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Nov 25, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

That was a huge goal line stand from the 1 yard line. Kept us in the game for sure.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 25, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Short week, hostile stadium, let down game

Don’t like it but hardly a reason to lose faith. And as poorly as the offense played, they were still in the game until well into the 4th quarter.. They’ll learn from it and bounce back.

by mwright84 on Nov 25, 2011 12:07 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Bruce Miller

Turned out to be a big loss he does a great job of blocking for Gore but not too upset from this game we hung in there to the end if we can beat the steelers I will forget about this loss completely

by 49erEmpire on Nov 25, 2011 12:07 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Same here lol

Huge Defensive stop from the 1 yard line.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 25, 2011 12:08 AM PST reply actions  

hmm

my chat is glitching up weird:-( can delete those 2 posts if you want.

by Dukeston1 on Nov 25, 2011 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

This just in.....

Alex Smith was sacked by Ray Lewis heading onto the plane!!!

by Frisco_Kid on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Dallas loss

Inspired better play from the O-line and secondary. It also taught the team some lessons about putting away a talented yet inferior opponent. I trust that tonight will focus the OL and pass rush, while lighting just the late season fire that our successful team needs.

- Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 25, 2011 12:17 AM PST reply actions  

The Good, bad, and the Tired.

Good: I think a loss will help keep the team grounded and humble. Overconfidence is a killer.

Bad: The O-line was obviously bad. I also think the pass rush was just as bad, and the coaches lack of ability to make the proper adjustments.

Tired: Tired of wondering why Chilo and Moran are still on the team. Why?

I hope the team learns from this, and gets extremely hungry and vicious.

Ending on a pessimistic note, I feel the Steelers are going to whoop us. Any team that can pass is likely to beat the Niners.

by sanchodeltoro on Nov 25, 2011 12:21 AM PST reply actions  

uhhhhhhh...

Detroit is one of the most dominate pass team in the NFL, also did you see the Giants and Eagles game? All season teams have abandoned the running game against us and decided to air it out after the 1st quarter….

by Frisco_Kid on Nov 25, 2011 12:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ending on a pessimistic note, I feel the Steelers are going to whoop us. Any team that can pass is likely to beat the Niners.

Key differences with Steelers, we play at home and have an extra day to prepare.

The Eagles, Giants, and Lions didn’t beat us, and all can (or can only) pass. Heck, it wasn’t even the secondary getting beat deep that beat us. We got dinked and dunked and the Ravens simply converted more 3rd downs when it counted (in the 2nd half), a few due to missed tackles.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 25, 2011 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

No
Any team that can pass is likely to beat the Niners.

The 49ers have played teams that can pass and have won. Detroit. Philadelphia. Tampa Bay. The Giants.

The 49ers narrowly lost to the Cowboys who can pass.

by smileyman on Nov 25, 2011 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Im going to bed on an optomistic note...

We only lost by 10 with 2 key players out on the road on a short week against a very good playoff caliber team, with 2 correct but could of gone either way game changing turning point calls going against us!!! Good night and Happy ThanksGiving FaithfuL

off to BestBuy!!!
NOT

by Frisco_Kid on Nov 25, 2011 12:32 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Alex Smith wasn't the problem

He was the only reason we didn’t lose by more than we did. If he had more than 2 seconds in the pocket, that game would’ve been ours. The o-line was gassed and didn’t show up- reminiscent of the Saints preseason game. If he’d had time to even get to his first (much less his second or third) read, the game would’ve been much different. This loss was on the o-line, period.

by rev420 on Nov 25, 2011 12:55 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I was actually impressed with Alex..

For what he had to work with in this game.. For an awful performance from the O-line, no running game to set up the pass better.. He scrambled and made some plays and kept us in the game from my eyes.. Our receivers drop too many balls.. And frank slips more than any running back I have ever seen.. But I’m not gonna sit here and start blaming every little thing.. Cuz the truth is we lost because we couldn’t play 49er football in this game.. Which is run the ball efficiently and set up the pass.. And most importantly win the the turnover battle.. Alex holding on to the ball after getting raped this whole game was pretty amazing.. Also to not get hurt.. One tough dude…we brought in Braylon to be our jump ball man.. Calvin Johnson would of made that catch.. Yep I want he biggest, fastest, athletic receiver with sticky hands in the first round next year.. Bruce Miller was missed big time in this game..

by pigskin slapper on Nov 25, 2011 12:56 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed

Bruce Miller and a healthy Adam Snyder were the difference on this game. They seem to fill the void that is Norris and Rachal

by rev420 on Nov 25, 2011 1:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Lets go Niners!!

Fuck the loss, we ahead of everybody that doubted us.

Let’s keep it going

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Nov 25, 2011 12:57 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Notable stat

Alex Smith is a hero and the right side of our offensive line will never be good with the Brothers Bumble over on the right side.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 25, 2011 1:29 AM PST reply actions  

I'll take the loss

The beginning of the season, I expected a loss here. I also expected a 7-9 record out of the Niners. The Niners showed heart tonight and a better pass rush destroyed them. I expect them to rebound from this loss and learn from it. I can honestly say that I’m “ok” with this loss. I think that the Niners will win out aside from resting starters once the NFC West is clinched. I’m 100% proud of this team and all they have put forth this year. Like I said, I didn’t expect a win tonight but I can also say that I thought this would have been our toughest matchup this year. I can say with confidence that I think we will win at home against the Steelers on Monday night and really expect to win out with a possible loss to Seattle in Seattle. Tonight was a defensive battle and I expected a win if the 49ers got some takeaways…which they didn’t. Alex Smith got murdered tonight, the running game might as well been non-existant, and the defense didn’t force the turnovers that they have this season but they still showed heart and never gave up. They will rebound from this, still make the playoffs, and hopefully match up with the Ravens for a rematch in the Super Bowl this year.

49er Faithful, until the day I die.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Nov 25, 2011 1:59 AM PST reply actions  

Sad note to add

I’ve been going to the same sports bar to watch all the 49ers games for the past 4 years and rarely see even one 49ers fan. The past several weeks, I’ve seen at least four 49ers fans at said sports bar & grill. They’re coming out of the woodwork in the midwest! Kind of annoying but good to see fans there with me cheering on the team opposed to the previous years where I was alone with myself and my son.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Nov 25, 2011 2:03 AM PST up reply actions  

PS....... ALEX SMITH

Just dont got the edge we need . That bite, that want, that hunger , just saying almost any nfl starting quarterback can do what alex is doing for the niners ……. Save us jim….

by ninerpride on Nov 25, 2011 2:06 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Very few QBs could pull off a win with that offensive line last night.

Aaron Rodgers maybe could, but on the Packers he also multiple elite playmaing receivers, dunno if Rodgers could do it with our receivers. Brees has a chance as well if he plays out of his mind. After that, Brady, Ben, the Mannings wouldn’t do jack when they are pressured, hit, and sacked on just about every passing play.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 25, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

ps... wrong scapegoat

Didn’t see him fighting off sacks, extending plays, protecting the football, and keeping his team in it until the end? But he has no bite?

by mcwagner on Nov 25, 2011 8:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

SORRY ID LOVE TO EAT SOME CROW ON THIS.......

BUT ALEX IS STILL THE SAME ALEX …. IVE WATCHED EVERY SNAP HES TAKEN THE LAST 6YRS AINT NOTHING REALLY EXPLOSIVE LIKE EVERYONES SAYING, I JUST DONT SEE IT ..SORRY COME ON ALEX FEED ME SOME CROW PLEASE

by ninerpride on Nov 25, 2011 11:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not as saddened by this loss as I was by any loss

I think we do better when we are the underdogs, and this will be a huge wake up call to the offense and the defense.

by Ni9er on Nov 25, 2011 2:19 AM PST reply actions  

It was a tough game in a tough situation...

I’m okay with the result; I really hope we can make some adjustments and win the battle in the trenches (why we compare NFL to WWI, I have no clue).

Bring on the lambs!

2011 World Cup Champions Team India

by Rishi on Nov 25, 2011 6:57 AM PST reply actions  

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