49ers Vs. Ravens Recap: Excuses, Excuses, Excuses
The San Francisco 49ers went into Baltimore last night and took a bit a thumping as the offense struggled to get much of anything going for sixty minutes. The defense made some strong stands, but also saw the Ravens offense take advantage of their conservative approach. The Ravens did not put up a huge point total or a ton of yards, but they were able to do enough to get the victory.
This is only the second loss of the season but I had an idea for a way to sort of blow off some steam following losses. Hopefully this is not something that will need to become too regular a feature. The idea is to basically have a day-after post where folks can just unload with any and all excuses for why the 49ers lost. You can go with fairly legit excuses, or you can get a little ridiculous and point to things that most of us might not consider in figuring out why the 49ers lost.
This is not meant as an open thread to bash the team. Rather, it's a chance to blame everybody but the team. The 49ers will do plenty of self-examination to figure out what they did wrong, but I know there are plenty of other areas for blame. I don't like making excuses for losses, but since it is out there for comment, why not take a post to just blow them all up?
The most prominent excuses I can think of are questionable refs and the quick turnaround combined with traveling across three time zones. The 49ers need to find ways to win these kinds of games, but I have no problem for one day laying blame on those outside factors.
I actually don't think the refs were as bad as people are making them out to be, but I do think they played things a little too tight last night. They made calls that technically were correct, but games seem to be more enjoyable and run more smoothly when refs are a bit more conservative in throwing flags.
For example, the Tarell Brown interception and pass interference call is a good example. Brown did have his hand on Torrey Smith's arm to a sufficient extent to draw a flag. It probably didn't need to be called, but it did. The other example is Chilo Rachal and Frank Gore getting in on the high-low block. When Gore went low, Chilo didn't really seem to be blocking high, but he did seem to get a hand on the pass rusher. I don't think the call was necessary, but why give the refs that kind of opportunity to make the call? Why not play with a little bit more discipline?
The other excuse is of course the short week coupled with the 49ers having to cross three time zones to play the game. It sounds like the offensive line was not quite prepared for some of the defensive play-calls and that led to a decent amount of the trouble they found themselves in throughout the game.
For the offensive line in particular, they actually spent a huge amount of last Sunday's game on the field given the defense only getting 15:44 of action. Maybe they were just tooooo tired out following all that action in the Cardinals game. Who knows.
Here is some video from the post-game interviews yesterday, featuring Alex Smith. He remains a very stand-up guy, acknowledging that he made some incorrect calls at the line that put them in bad situations and not just throwing the offensive line under the bus. I never anticipated he would, but it's a good discussion of some of the things that went wrong last night. You can view more post-game video at CSNBayArea.com.
Alex Smith Post-Game
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One positive I take away is..
That the team can play like absolute you know what, and still be in it at the end. We had no business even being in this game but we were and that’s encouraging.
by MNY49 on Nov 25, 2011 7:44 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I think the coaches were just as baffled as all of us
at how bad the pass protection was with Rachal and Norris in the line up. Last night I was upset at the lack of slants and screens to take advantage of all the Raven pressure but watching the clips again, it’s not like the Ravens were going blitz crazy every play. They were getting 2 or 3 guys in the backfield just by rushing 3 or 4.
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by afrikabamboodle on Nov 25, 2011 7:44 AM PST reply actions
I think the offense was baffled with the ridiculous play calling.
I don't want to be greedy, but I want it to be useful, because if everybody agrees that they're more predictable, we know what we're going to get week to week, then why not? Why say: "Good year. We went to the playoffs. We went one-and-out. But, boy, next year! Look what we can do!" No, we're here! -S Young
Interesting. Can you elaborate?
I really, really think Michael’s been playing great football.
---Jim Harbaugh
All excuses aside
The Ravens seemed to be playing with more energy. They really took that game seriously. They were kicking our offensive line’s behinds. I was disappointed we didn’t use the running game more.
As far as excuses go… No I don’t see how there are any excuses. We all knew the Ravens were going to be our toughest matchup. I bet we win that game if it was in San Francisco. Too good of a team to go in and expect to beat them without playing above you’re level. We have to play better than normal on offense to beat the Ravens. Their defense is too good.
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We are just here to do our job to the best of our abilities, and we take pride in our work. You might not be impressed while you watch us work, if you cannot understand what we are doing. But when you see what we have accomplished you will be impressed.
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by Pat Willie on Nov 25, 2011 7:50 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I still think
the PI call on TB was BS.
"One game at a time. Let's just keep it rolling." Justin Smith
The only reason the arm was grabbed, was because the WR arm barred him, that should be offensive P.I.
TB didn’t reach for it, it was there…..crap call by the refs…..
by ericalancanty on Nov 25, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, i was at the game
and it was unbelievable at how bad that and the “chop block” call were…of course the drunken idiot ravens fans didn’t see it that way
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 25, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
The officials were not the ones sacking Smith. We got our butts whipped in the trenches and Chilo was holding a lot without it getting called.
by mcwagner on Nov 25, 2011 10:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well they did let them get away with a couple shots to the o-lines heads
and a blatant facemask on some of the sacks
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 25, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, those facemasks to Alex were pretty blatant...
I noticed when they replayed one of those sacks right before cutting to commercial they cut away just as it was starting to show Alex getting his facemask pulled…
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 25, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
There were three major highly-questionable calls in the game ...
1. All three went in Baltimore’s favor. Home teams don’t need added help.
2. Two effected the scoring absolutely; the third (Brown’s interception), may have effected the score.
God, I am sick and tired of the flag-happy style that the NFL powers have dictated that the officials become. Roger has done some good things since taking over from Tags, but, unfortunately, he has dictated many others that have hurt the game and made it far less entertaining for the fans. Sometimes it almost seems like the officials get paid on the basis of the number of flags that they throw. It always slows the game down and frequently the calls don’t make common sense.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Nov 25, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Do we have to call them excuses? Can we just call them reasons the 49ers lost?
-Outplayed on both lines ( Snyder injured, Alex took some coverage “sacks” when he should have thrown it away, what was up with the complete lack of pressure from 49ers defensive line? )
-Corners played the bend-don’t-break defense and the Ravens took complete advantage, lots of short passes to convert 3rd downs
-Ticky tack foul took away the 49ers only big offensive play of the game
-Slightly too much arm tangle ( I have less of a problem with the PI than most ) took away their only big defensive play of the game.
-Bad chemistry between Smith and Edwards likely took away 3 points, much like last years Smith/Crabtree eff ups.
-It seems that defenses have mostly figured out the mix and match run game the 49ers were able to effectively use for 4 or 5 weeks there, last 3 games now it’s been shut down pretty well. They’ve been trying to open up the offense in advance, but it really hit a wall in this game, they couldn’t produce the protection for opening it up and the run game was completely shut down.
-The Ravens have the best defense in the league when they care. 49ers are in a mix for 2nd. They won’t face another D like them unless it’s a rematch in the super bowl, but the short-comings of being able to beat blitzes and isolate match ups is a problem they must over come in general, regardless of opponent. I’m sure everyone watched much of the Packer/Lions game. The Lions could not finish drives in the first half, cost them the game.
-I don’t know how much the short week really affected the team. We all know much of their improvement this year was scheming. So, taking away a couple days of scheming, and playing a team that is probably more familiar with them than any non divisional team. It certainly looked like the 49ers were pinned down for 4 quarters in all the ways that scheming matters.
-Snyder’s injury both reflects how much the 49ers can not withstand injuries, and how lucky they’ve been to be healthy. Hopefully the 49ers can get ahead in some of these games down the stretch and not lose any body. Even Miller being out felt big. Miller adds an extra dynamic to get out of the backfield and make a play.
-As much as Edwards crap is frustrating at this point, i think he has to be a part of the offense. Whatever is wrong there, the 49ers need to fix it, if he needs to be rested, rest him, if he needs more snaps in the offense, then he and Alex need to get together and get it figured out. They need him to play and to play well.
-Aldon needs a bull rush move if he wants to take it up to the next level, he’s getting the tackles back on their heels, but he’s always just trying to disengage and it plays right into their hands most of the time. The best rushers make them pay for that with a swift punch that knocks them backward and destroys the pocket.
by whistlingmountain on Nov 25, 2011 8:09 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I think you summed it up pretty well
The Niners managed to fight pretty tough for 1/2 the game (plus a bit). They just weren’t quite sharp enough in the first half which I legitimately associate with the quick turn-around and cross-country travel. It reminded me of the first half of the Eagles game where they were close but just not quite getting it done. The difference this time is they lacked the reserve to draw from to bring it up a nothch and buckle down (the injuries didn’t help, but playes must step up)
Think about it – the cross country travel really takes away a full day and with such a short week, that equates to a very significant advantage (relatively speaking) to the Ravens.
There is no taking away that the Ravens are a very good team, but watching the game you see two distinct games and I think it was less about adjustments then simple execution. We were simply running on empty by the middle of the third quarter.
It was EXTREMELY frustrating, but it was not a division game and will have little to no impact in the long run (in so far as the playoff picture). We now have 10 days to get healthy and prepare for a game that will matter and I am sure the Niners will be ready.
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 25, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, one more point...
While I think Alex played strong, I also think he failed to make some quick reads where he could have dumped off the ball to open receivers on some of the blitzes. Some were not all the well disguised. It’s a nit-pick, but a point where we certainly can improve…
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 25, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Agree with you and Whistlingmountain
on all these points. The most concerning one of these going forward I think is the lack of pressure our DL and OLB are getting to opposing QBs. Both Flacco, and before that Eli Manning, were getting plenty of time on their pass plays. In the playoffs, if we come up against NO and GB we will struggle big time.
I also thought that Alex Smith was getting hit late a number of times in the game last night, none of them being called. Compared to the latest supergod in A Rodgers who cannot now be touched it was appalling.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Nov 25, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
For one the OL was tired after playing
For 45 minutes against the cardinals, and only 3 days of rest….2nd I didn’t post my GO NINERS!!!! in the original game thread which I’ve done all season since dallas
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by AzNiner on Nov 25, 2011 8:13 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Ginn should be restricted to st
Not like of he caught that pass we would have won but everything is working against him. He missed an easy one against the giants an easy one this week and kyle williams is emerging as a beast. Ginn’s days on offense are numbered.
by MNY49 on Nov 25, 2011 8:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions
he did havea spectacular 75 yard TD called back by a ticky tack foul.
by ericalancanty on Nov 25, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Thats what I was thinking
He had a great play on that catch too, fighting for the ball. How about the niners just reduce his playing time on offense to more manageable levels, like 4th receiver levels, where KW can take the short passes with his strong hands, and Ginn can run the go routes.
Harsh on Ginn
He drops one catch which, granted he should have made, but to reduce him to just ST or 4th receiver level based on this is harsh. I’ve only seen 3 games this year – in GB they just don’t show the Niners much which is desperate – so you guys probably have a better view on this, but from what I have seen Ginn has performed as well as Edwards and Crabtree so for me he has to be part of the WR corps. The TD catch that was called back is proof of that. Edwards is the one that needs to step up the most from what I have seen.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Nov 25, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Ginn back to his old ways
Arizona he tipped a easy pass right into his hands resulting in an interception…
Then last night dropped that easy 4th down pass that pretty much sealed the game for us…
I would say he’s like a less talented Brandon Llyod, makes spectaullar catches sometimes but misses alot of easy ones
by Frisco_Kid on Nov 25, 2011 3:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
yeah i saw that
if he caught it, there would have been an easy 1st down attempt on the next play, or maybe even more
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 25, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
It's all of these that add up and separate teams like SF from Green Bay
It’s not that Rogers is that much better, but his receivers make the catches they should and also make the catches that you wouldn’t expect them to make.
We really do need to see our receiving corps (WR’s, TE’s, and RB’s) consistently catch the ball when it is near them, andconsistently play smart (see: VD trying for an extra yard instead of getting out of bounds)…
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 25, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
green bay is playing as well, offensively, as any team ever
Continuity of system, players are super familiar with each other. EVERY team is separated from GB by a bunch of things.
But last season they had a dude that made some key drops (Jones) and they stuck by him. Niners just have to keep working together.
Harbaughcalypse Now
by dutra on Nov 26, 2011 11:32 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Our play didn't help but....
Those 2 calls were a 10 point swing in a tightly contested game. And how much did we end up losing by? 10! So its a worthy argument. In the end we did get out played but we didn’t get SO outplayed that those two calls don’t bother me anymore. I’ll think about those calls for while. Looking at the numbers more it irritates even more. If those two calls don’t get called like they should the turnovers are 1 – 1 instead of 1 – 0. Total yardage is 270 to 253 Niners. The score at that point of the game would have been 13 – 3 instead of 3 – 3. Those 2 calls changed the whole complexity of the game. I bet we would have won if those are different. I know your supposed to find a way to win and that is true. But this is the fan side of me talking not my competitive side so I can be a little more subjective. What also really irritates me is the national media are going jump up and yell “see the Niners are frauds! See we told you so!” and its such BS. And we’ll also get the whole Alex can’t win the big game BS too. Our team went 3 time zones to one of the toughest places to play on a short win lose a game that we should have won except for these two bad calls and now Alex can’t win and the niners are frauds. ARG RABBLE. Sorry I just had to get that off my chest. I’ll get off the soap box now. haha
Arg as well
If the Ted Ginn TD had stood, the niners likely would not have taken that shot to Braylon at the end of the half, instead trying for the FG, since we would have been ahead either 10-3 or 10-6. That simple.
Refs changed momentum of game
I couldn’t sleep last night, because I couldn’t get over those two calls. The Refs absolutely swung the entire game the Ravens directions. A 10 point swing created by two very questionable calls, that were pretty much back to back, crushing any momentum the Niners had going in the first half, swinging towards the Ravens. We all know that football is a game of momentum. And yeah, I didn’t think about them going for the TD at the end of the half, probably would have been happier to kick it there if they were up 10-3.
The Ravens absolutely outplayed the Niners in the 2nd half. But if the Niners are up 7 or even 10 coming out of halftime, it’s a completely different game, they were playing from behind the whole time.
The chop-block could have gone either way, but it seemed extremely minor. But I really don’t understand the pass interference call. Here’s the rule directly from the book:
Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:
(a) Incidental contact by a defender’s hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball
Brown couldn’t have been playing the ball anymore than he was, he freaking caught it after all… the minor amount of bumping was him going up to get the ball. Freaking ridiculous!
Anyways, I should be happy, if you’d told me the Niners would be 9-2 at the beginning of the season, I never would have believed you. If they can beat the Steelers in 3 weeks, the critics should shut-up again.
by Ross Williams on Nov 25, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
He dropped a pass
And the entire O line played like rookies.
The pass interference is not a good example
Brown had Torrey Smith’s arm because he was going for the ball and Smith was pushing that arm into Brown’s body to try to keep him from making a play on the ball.
But the offense does not have special privileges when the ball is in the air. No player may act to prevent another player from making a play on the ball.
Brown was making a play on the ball. Torrey Smith was making a play on Brown — unless he intended to catch that ball with the back of his right hand.
That is a borderline pass interference call — but on Torrey Smith, not Brown.
This exactly
Why the hell would Brown be holding Smith’s arm to slow Smith down when the ball was BEHIND Smith?
[Snark] We lost because the Harbaugh brothers conspired together.
John asked his brother to lose this game so that they win their division. The 49ers will win their division and will get a 1st round bye (2nd seed) and the ravens want the same. [/Snark]
-Steeler fan
Our 2nd seed spot
is not guaranteed. Just ask the Saints.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Nov 25, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Let's view this from the big picture.
I live in Hawaii and a few weeks ago I made the trip from Hawaii to the DC area to watch the 49ers play the Redskins. Traveling beats the hell out of you no matter how tough you are. I’m not saying that the Cardinals game was difficult but it’s still professional football and that means that it will always be a long and tough 60 minutes. So you go all out on a division opponent, which probably also contributed because you are going to put more emotion and energy into a division game, you fly the next day, one day of practice and a day of rest and then you go against a pretty decent football team on a Thursday night in front of a hostile crowd and you get beat. It happens.
We aren’t struggling with having a winning season. That’s already in the bag. I’m sure we are all pissed off and mad and want to strangle the refs who made those calls but the fact remains that we still have 4 division games left and one tough game against the Steelers. Fortunately we will have plenty of time to prepare for that game and we can definitely beat them. Even if we go 13-3 we probably will get the first round bye and hey, we are in the playoffs.
Let’s not blame Alex. He hasn’t seen a pass rush like that in a while. Getting sacked 9 times means poor offensive line play. Snyder is better then Rachel and we all know it. Baltimore’s defense is just like ours. And our defense is still amazing. Still no rushing touchdowns on the year or a 100 yard rusher. And the amount of points Baltimore scored isn’t much more than what our defense averages.
Positives:
- We hung with Baltimore who beat Pittsburgh twice so that is a very winnable game.
- Gives us a taste of what kind of defense the Steelers have and how we can take advantage of it.
- Our turnover ratio is still +16.
- Still have the best defense in the league.
- Only a few plays made this game. Nothing big. Flacco and Rice were held in check. Unfortunately so was our offense.
Take Aways:
- Rachel needs to improve now.
- The defense can hang with anyone.
- We are still very well rounded.
- We still have Gore, Davis, Walker, Crabtree and Williams.
- We will get Miller back soon.
- Still got Jim Harbough.
- WE WILL BE IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!
Let’s have faith Niners Nation.
Ravens clearly have the best defense
49ers in mix with the Jets, Lions, Bears, and even Texans for that 2nd/3rd best defense.
49ers best run defense.
Rachal isn’t going to improve.
by whistlingmountain on Nov 25, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
Ravens have a very solid O line
They seem to have gotten better/healthy and kept out D line away from Flacco enough for him to dink and dunk down the field
Rachal needs to go. That is embarrassing even for a backup.
by mcwagner on Nov 25, 2011 10:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
As poorly as the offense played, the game was lost on 3 or 4 plays
- Refs made 2 REALLY BAD CALLS that cost us 10 points (took 7 from us and gave them 3).
- The Alex Smith Int in the end zone at the end of the half cost us 3 points. I felt we should have gotten a bit closer for Akers and then taken a shot if there was time left. Unfortunately, I thought we didn’t have as much time as we needed because on the drive, VD caught a pass near the sidelines and instead of running OB, he turned inside and got an extra yard. That cost a lot of time and was a bad play. I’m all for players trying to get more yards, but the situation called for him to run out of bounds. Of course, we could have used a timeout. I believe we had 2 left.
That’s 13 points, We lost by 10. Do the math.
The other things that contributed to our loss were:
3rd down – the Ravens converted on 3rd down on their TD drive and a few other times. That was a huge difference in the game. Our defense couldn’t get off the field and was worn down.
Game Plan – I blame the short week, but I believe our game plan should have matched what the Ravens did against us – run the ball and short, quick passes. That would have provided more time to pass and kept Alex from getting stomped. We did use short passes a few times and was mostly successful. I don’t know why we didn’t do more of that.
Bottom Line- The Ravens were fired up. That’s their MO. They get up for the big games and lose trap games. We’re more consistent. If we had normal prep time and played them on a neutral field we could get more going on offense and beat them. There’s no shame in losing that game, but it was winnable if only a couple things went differently.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 25, 2011 8:58 AM PST reply actions
I completely agree
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by Mighty Healthy on Nov 25, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
Donte Whitners missed tackled on Lee Evans on 3rd down was a big difference on the TD drive
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 25, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
THE big difference on the TD drive
A punt and field position to follow the whiff instead of the culmination of the 16 play 7 1/2 minute drive with an endzone celebration
by Canadian Bacon on Nov 25, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
NFL gets the blame
5 east coast match ups with this one coming within 4 days from their last game. Oh and by the way, we have another scheduling doozie where we play the Steelers MNF then turn around and play the Seachickens on the following Saturday.
Thank you Roger Goodell and the NFL for scheduling the worst schedule in history
Pass Protection
It’s been an issue for years here in SF. We drafted a lot of expensive blue chip kids and still, it sucks a lot of the time. Alex could have played better, could have played worse – either way, we were unlikely to win a game giving up NINE SACKS and another ten or so hits and half a dozen hurries. That is an EPICALLY BAD game by our offensive line. Add in Morgan is out for the year, Crabs has his foot owie, Braylon is still gimpy and does not seem to be playing with much drive, Ginn has hands like a Seal… and you really don’t need much in the way of excuses. We held the Ravens to 16, but lost the game because their outstanding defense punked our vulnerable offense.
Enjoy the ride: we’re still 9-2, still going to the playoffs, will still likely get spanked there, but that’s a helluva lot better than the Singletary years. Further improvement will have to await the off-season.
I thought Crab played well yesterday
In spite of his injury issues.
I really, really think Michael’s been playing great football.
---Jim Harbaugh
He caught six passes – but only 9 yards a catch. There is nothing wrong with his hands, it’s his foot. He just isn’t explosive. He’s more of a possession guy anyway. On the other side, Braylon is just not playing like a starting NFL WR. Against some teams, Alex has had time for them to get open, go to his second or third read, etc. – against the Ravens, Alex’s second read was pulling turf out of his facemask.
fair perspective
the playoffs and division are nice, but this team lacks the upside that would give fans reasoned optimism about going deep in the playoffs and challenging for the SB. It will be interesting to see if the niners feel forced/compelled to give AS a contract extension after this amazing (team) season, or stick with him and continue to search for the future at QB. The niners will never be worthy of a high ceiling without a better O Line (especially in pass protection) and a QB with less limitations.
Blame me
I’ve watched all our games wearing my Niners t-shirt (which I hadn’t washed since the 8 game streak started). Last night, my wife and I had a party to go to and we did not watch the game live. We watched the DVR tape later. We blew it! Won’t happen again, sorry.
I have an idea for an excuse why we lost:
The Ravens are a much better team
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by MichaelClutchtree on Nov 25, 2011 9:15 AM PST reply actions
They sure were last nite ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
they are in general
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by MichaelClutchtree on Nov 25, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
they are a more seasoned team
meaning, they’ve had more time playing in their schemes (i know they have a new defensive coordinator this year, but they’ve been running basically the same D since they’ve existed)
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 25, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
so in other words, they are better
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by MichaelClutchtree on Nov 25, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
not in other words
“better” is a general term anyways, you could say the Niners are stille “better” because they are still a game ahead of the Ravens
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 25, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know about much better
Any team that loses to Jacksonville is not “much” better. Or if you think they’re much better, I’d say they’re much less consistent.
by David Fucillo on Nov 25, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe he was just in that snarky sarcasm mode?
Currently satiating my hunger for Kings basketball with a renewed focus on the NINERS
sarcasm
I’ve stopped trying to figure it out.
by David Fucillo on Nov 25, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
It's obviously Obama's fault...
or maybe it’s the fact that Chuck Norris is a Ravens fan, could have had our guys mentally psyched out.
A. Smith + tiger blood + Harbaugh = #winning
I called it
Every lineman play is like lifting weights while everyone in the room takes turns kicking you.
Three quarters of play Sunday was punishment for the Oline & they had no legs in the 4th quarter.
It’s an excuse that covers up some other mistakes, like using Gore up the middle too much when the Ravens seemed susceptible to outside runs – that 32 worked so well.
And of course, apperances by Bad Alex, who sometimes can’t pull the trigger for a throwaway or give his guy a chance. Maybe too few interceptions isn’t that great.
Thursday games
I don’t get why the teams playing Thursday games aren’t automatically awarded bye weeks the week before. It’s ridiculous, especially for a team that has to spend half a day of the already short week on a plane. The Packers and Dolphins didn’t have nearly as far to go…
Obviously making a schedule that works is a nightmare, but I don’t get why this hasn’t been brought up yet.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Nov 25, 2011 10:11 AM PST reply actions
Because competition and player health
Aren’t as important as having good story lines.
Welcome to the WWE modern NFL.
Ha!
I think you meant XFL…NO FAIR CATCHES!
by InTimmyWeTrust on Nov 26, 2011 6:03 AM PST up reply actions
The thing that is inexcusable is.....
Greg Roman’s inability to make adjustments. It was no secret the Ravens were going to come after Alex Smith, so instead of changing things up by throwing screen passes, short quick passes or going to the no huddle approach, Roman stuck with the same game plan and it resulted in Smith being sacked nine times and not a lot of success running or throwing the football.
This loss proves that Roman has a long way to go before he becomes a decent offensive coordinator and let’s not fool ourselves it wasn’t like the 49ers offense has fired on all cylinders this season and the Cardinals game was excruciating to watch as the 49ers offense did struggle on Sunday as well.
In other words the biggest test offensively for the 49ers was facing the Ravens defense and Roman failed miserably.
really?
I don’t know. I’ve heard fans complaining about predictable play calling and poor O adjustment, going back to the Mooch years. Given the general success of the team this year, I don’t think it’s fair to scapegoat one person, be it Roman or Chilo or Ginn. I think the cross country travel + the short week + a laundry list of other factors add up to make it pretty difficult for Roman to easily turn the tide of the game by simply adjusting.
Harbaughcalypse Now
by dutra on Nov 26, 2011 11:53 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think fatigue had something to do with it
That and they got ZERO pressure on Joe Flacco.
"I for one welcome our new computer overlords." - Ken Jennings, after losing to a computer on Jeopardy, 2/16/11
You really can't get decent pressure
Sending 3 and 4 against 5 and 6 and having your best pass rusher riding the bench for most of the game.
Top 10 Reasons why we Lost
10. Baltimore is depressing: have you been there?
9. Ugly Ravens cheerleaders put our guys off their game
8. Too much Harbaugh-Hype for the Harbaugh-Bowl
7. Ray Lewis over-emoting on the sideline: it’s distracting
6. The guys were worried they would not get back in time for the best Black Friday deals
5. Honey Badger was subbing for Ray Lewis in the Ravens defense
4. Lunesta in the Gatorade
3. Braylon Edwards doesn’t like getting his uniform dirty
2. Jimmy Raye was allowed to run the Offense in the second half “for old times sake”
1. The entire O-line sneaked off for a Turkey Dinner right before the game
It's all good
This team can lose every game from now until the end of the season, and it still has been a better 49ers season than the misery-filled debacle of the last decade.
Instead of excuses, complaints and analysis … why not “job well done” up to now.
Screw the Ravens — get up, dust yourself off, and keep going. With a few good games, this team might have a Super Bowl run in it.
Not quite our time yet.
In 8 games, precisely,
The planets will align, ever so nicely.
The time to act will be at hand!
Unleash the offense, that monstrous band!
Then the once proud AFC Champs will finally fall,
And you, 49ers, will rule all!
A word of caution to this tale: if you become a bunch of cowards, you will fail.
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl."
-Houston Oilers Head Coach Bill Peterson
by KingKongDoesHaveSomethingOnMe on Nov 25, 2011 11:19 AM PST reply actions
I will take the high road and say excuses are not permitted! We lost fair and square! Hello ST. Louis! We are mad! Bring it on!
That bad taste will simmer for 10 days, enough said!
Enough said above! I can't believe the "t-raiders" are going to play in OUR stadium! Bastards!
by 23mjheart on Nov 25, 2011 11:36 AM PST via mobile reply actions
4 things
Brown PI- Smith pushes off. He did it against Pitt to win the game. He does it often and Brown got called
Smith INT- Just not good chemistry between Smith and Braylon. They need to keep working on it.
Ginn T/Gore penalty- This really hurt because Gore was chopping him before Chilo even touched the guy. This is something that needs to be looked at in the offseason.
Most importantly and the biggest reason we lost- The Oline gave up 200 sacks. We don’t have the offense to continually climb out of those deep holes.
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
Alex Smith Sucks
What I don’t get is how can you blame a Qb that is getting Hit before he plants his back foot to throw. Our Oline played horrible. They were rushing 3-4 and beating our max protect. Explain to me how this is Alex’s fault. Sure he made a couple sub par throws but let me hit you almost 90% of everytime you drop back and lets see you throw with some accuracy. I got so pissed off last night but it wasnt at Alex or the Team. To me it was poor coaching. They didnt adjust and when we ran wide it worked but we kept running up the middle. Just like quick throws. Did it twice then no more.Oh well we have six weeks to get ready for the playoffs. Just cut Chilo and Norris and play Boone and Peele(prefer miller).
Where were the screens?
I don’t remember seeing any. Wouldn’t that help against the blitzes? (even though they still beat us even when they didn’t blitz). Also surprised we didn’t run more; especially when it became obvious our pass-blocking wasn’t gettin any better.
"If you aint first, you're last."
It depends on the blitz
In general it’s difficult to run a screen against an overload blitz because the running back is going to get pummeled long before he gets out of the back field.
If there is an overload blitz it’s the offensive line’s job to protect inside first and force the pressure to go around the outside. At that point it’s the QB’s job to step up and beat one of the 1v1 match ups on the field. Neither of those things happened all that often in the game..
by whistlingmountain on Nov 25, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions

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