Mike Pereira Decides To Go With Condescension In Addressing Jim Harbaugh's Complaints
On Sunday's during the NFL season, former NFL VP of Officiating and current officiating advisor/consultant to the Pac-12, Mike Pereira provides FOX Sports with in-game analysis of various calls. If there is a questionable call or if there is a challenged play, Pereira will provide his thoughts on the play. In theory it is actually an excellent idea. We all have our own ideas about what is correct or incorrect on a given call, but having former VP of Officiating can help clear things up.
49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh has been fairly vocal in protesting a variety of calls this season. Some are legitimate gripes, and some might be a bit more questionable. Mike Pereira decided to use his latest column at foxsports.com to take Coach Harbaugh to task for his protesting:
We're halfway through the NFL season and I'm not sure which is more surprising, the fact that San Francisco is 7-1 or that the 49ers' new coach, Jim Harbaugh, got more face time Sunday on FOX than Kim Kardashian gets in her reality show.
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The cameras found him on seemingly every penalty - and San Francisco was penalized nine times. I really can't blame the director, because quite frankly, Harbaugh was good drama. Except, of course, for those who were officiating the game.
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After watching this game, here's some advice for young Mr. Harbaugh: We're only halfway through the season - take some deep breaths and enjoy the ride.
Doug Farrar over at Yahoo! Sports' Shutdown had a nice little takedown of Pereira's somewhat condescending attitude about all this. At times, it strikes me as a sort of subtle "shut up and quit complaining" type of tone.
Pereira addressed two plays in his analysis: 1) the fair catch by Vernon Davis during the Redskins onside kick and 2) the movement by three players that was called a false start. The first play was a rare one so I suppose I get why he wanted to discuss it. The second play I still disagree with, but I suppose arguments could be made for both sides.
I don't think there is any problem with Coach Harbaugh complaining about the call. At the same time, one has to wonder how officials will take that moving forward. Farrar asked a similar question in his article:
I tend to wonder if this was a veiled warning to Harbaugh - was Pereira telling the coach to back off the criticisms if he ever wanted to get the calls going his way?
I would hope it would not, but it is not particularly simple understanding the psychology behind all this. After all, they may say it doesn't impact them down the road, but none of us is in the head of an official.
Coach Harbaugh was asked about the call and said that he had discussed it with the league but "[a]ll conversations with the league and the clubs are privileged and confidential, but satisfactorily explained. I have an understanding of what to tell our players and we'll move on from there."
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Pereira is pro-refs, as he was one and knows them all personally
Not saying he doesn’t ever call them out, because he does…but it’s clear he’s biased here.
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He goes by the rules but apologizes too much for the refs.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Nov 8, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Coaches insult refs all the time
Pereira is just a referee defender who is way too egotistical.
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by doubleteapot on Nov 8, 2011 7:42 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Good point
We don’t want to shine a light on how horrible the officiating has been in all games all year. This is a good reason why we need professional referees that can keep up with the game, physically and in studies. Which game was it when they gave a team 6 yards for offsides?
Seriously
It’s not just me, and it’s not just the Niner games- I have watched several contests this year, ones where I didn’t have a preferred outcome, and thought “the refs are blowing a lot of these calls”.
Do others see the same?
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by lottwasgangsta on Nov 8, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
yes
The biggest miss-call of the 49ers season to me was in Cincy when Crabtree made what was the catch of his young career tip-toein along the back of the endzone for an insane catch over three defenders. The referee was standing right there, and threw his hat. NO RE-PLAY? Why not? They need to bring re-play in effect full time because the referees are costing games, and changig the tide of games.
mostly FOX's fault
There was no automatic review because he was ruled out of bounds. Auto reviews only happen if the play is ruled a TD or 2pt conversion. The Niners could have challenged the call, but FOX didn’t show the replay until after the next play, so the coaches upstairs watching replays had no idea if it was good or not. Crabtree wasn’t sure either, so Harbaugh didn’t challenge the call.
yeah
last night was a great example. Forte fumbled and the official closest to the play came running in and pounded the ground 3 or 4 times to indicate the the runner was down. Replay showed the ball was clearly out and it was right in front of his face. He couldn’t have been more sure or more wrong.
the other thing is that they don’t call holding 10 times in a row and then call it on a critical down. Pass interference is the same thing. Sometimes they call it and sometimes they don’t. I don’t trust them. Too much money involved.
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kudos...
to doug for calling pereira’s condescension out. to be fair, though, i’ve actually been surprised at how much pereira’s airtime on FOX has included him saying the officials are wrong (sometimes vehemently so).
however, my problem was, and still is, that when you say something like this (my emphasis added):
“It was fourth-and-1 and we have seen teams make sudden shifts, just trying to draw the defense offside. We call this a ‘no-play shift.’ And you penalize the shifting team. A shift of two or more players is legal as long as it is smooth and continuous. That was not the case here. That shift was solely done to draw a foul and the officials were alert to this action. That has been on a training tape to the officials before this game, and in my opinion, the crew got this right.”
then why the hell wasn’t it called earlier in the season when the niners did the same exact thing? either it’s a penalty when a team uses a presnap shift to draw the D offsides, or it isn’t. it can’t be legal in Week 3 (or whenever that earlier one worked), but illegal in Week 9.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Nov 8, 2011 7:48 AM PST reply actions
same with helmet to helmet hits
one week there is no penalty or fine, the next week its both. Which one is it? If they missed a call earlier in the year they have to tell coach its illegal and they are looking out for it. No consistency.
This
If they called them all over the Steelers last season, then you gotta call it on Ray Lewis, when he knocks Hines Ward out with a concussion from doing it. It was amazingly flagrant, and I can’t believe it didn’t get a flag.
Was Lewis even fined? Then again, he’s murdered people, and he is still playing professional ball. I hope Miller puts him on his ass on Thanksgiving.
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by lottwasgangsta on Nov 8, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Hines ward had it comin
He’s a dirty player and it’s about time someone knocked him out lol
by MarineVet49erFan on Nov 8, 2011 9:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
And you are perfectly free to feel that way
It’s not that he got hit or knocked out, it’s that it wasn’t called.
It’s the lack of consistency in the officiating that’s the problem.
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by lottwasgangsta on Nov 8, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Officials are making a lot of bad calls and no calls this season. They need to step it up. They look like an incompetent bunch out there
by MarineVet49erFan on Nov 8, 2011 10:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
also...
was this not illegal in the 70s/80s, when tom landry’s OL jumped up out of their stance on every play? i mean, if 5 (or more) guys get set, then simultaneously do something out of a synchronized swimming routine just before the ball’s snapped, and it’s not “simulating the snap” even though landry implemented partially for that reason, then how is what SF does this year “simulating the snap?”
if you don’t know what i’m talking about here, see the 3:20 mark in this video.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Nov 8, 2011 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
Totally fair logical point
But I think the deciding factor in that being a non-call was THAT it was Landry. Some players get the calls, and some coaches get the calls.
Thanks for the video; that was great.
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by lottwasgangsta on Nov 8, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
the reality of this philosophy....
you dont see offenses being called for hard counts…so where is the problem…really?
the key is the definitions of "smooth" and "continuous" motion
within the context of an offensive football play before the snap.
the problem as far as I can tell is that there is no definition. and Pereira can’t define the problem better and so can’t defend the technical aspect of the call. so he’s attacking Harbaugh’s intent which while obvious (yes he was trying to draw the other team offsides but then that’s what hard snap counts do as well) but since the intent is undefined and is therefore a judgement call the officials should not be penalizing the offense if we assume “innocent until proven guilty” or “the tie goes to the runner”…basically officials shouldn’t be making judgement calls that can’t be defined.
by allforfunnplay on Nov 8, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
exactly...
1) what does “smooth and continuous” mean? if 3 guys shift, and one of them starts their shift a split-second after the other 2, all that’s required is for all 3 of them to reset themselves at their new spot for a second prior to the snap. it’s not smooth, and it’s not continuous, but it is legal. heck, you can legally have 7 guys popping up for a presnap shift in a staggered progression like a game of whack a mole, and it’s not illegal. so “smooth and continuous,” to me sounds like something that’s about as subjective as it gets from an officiating perspective.
2) intent is already something that refs are expressly forbidden from considering in the context of the “faked injury to slow down a no-huddle offense.” see this video for an absurd example from earlier this season that was not flagged. the league’s explanation is that refs aren’t supposed to try to get into the players’ minds. yet, in the SF false start situation, that’s exactly what they did.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
To be honest
I think the ref reacted and threw the flag. There were a lot of guys moving, so I am not surprised. I also think that next week, it would be called differently after all of the attention. At the time, the refs did not man up and waive off the flag!
as long as it's smooth and continuous
also perhaps they got it wrong the first time.
And it’s clearly illegal by the SPIRIT of the rules (shift to draw the foul) – but so is a hard count and that’s allowed.
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The Delay of Game was a MUCH WORSE Call
The Refs prevented the 49ers from executing a play by standing between Smith and the Center, then the ref asked for more clock time, they didn’t get it, Harbaugh called a timeout, and a penalty happened.
This was one of the worst calls I have ever seen due to sheer incompetence, not because it was a game-changer. The refs simply failed to follow procedure.
And Pereira totally neglected to mention it.
by nickbradley on Nov 8, 2011 8:15 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
not incompetence if the refs did it on purpose.
some of these calls and the way they did things makes me wonder if the refs did these things on purpose. some of these site decorum calls from the refs came on third and short or fourth and short. add in the generous first down spot on their last drive and the none call on the pi on the two point conversion. if they could have made the skins re-kick the onside kick, i think they would have. Just wait until this sunday for the giants.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Nov 8, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't get this one
The play that didn’t make sense to me was a delay of game call in the first half. The replay showed the official standing directly behind center with only nine seconds on the play clock. There was no opportunity for Alex to run the play with so little time after the official retreated to the backfield.
what are you talking about?
they gave them almost three seconds to line up. here’s some advice for young Mr. Colfax Fan: We’re only halfway through the season – criticize the refs and we will be sure to make the game biased.
by mcwagner on Nov 8, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Well done
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by SportsChicken on Nov 8, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
maybe, just maybe...
if the refs consistently did their jobs, the HCs would not have to get so excited. during the Redskins, I got the impression that Harbs knew the game bettter than the penguins (black and white shirts)…although probably irrelevant, during the last several seasons, I saw too many questionable and flat out ‘site decorum’ calls against SF. The penguins need to grow up and call the game fair…that is what they get paid for after all….
Penguins don't have stripes...
That is why they are typically referred to as Zebras. Just so you know.
I'm not feeling witty enough right now
i know. :-)
I was making the representation of black and white…as other officials are referred to as ‘penguins’ at times…wearing black and white and look a bit chunky…
For the most part actually
I’ve enjoyed Pereira being brought in as a consultant, and find him generally to be pretty forthright in looking at whether or not a crew of refs made the right call.
In this case however, he’s telling Harbaugh to quit talking when, in some cases, he just wants a consistent answer (the 4th down false start, for example),
If they ever meet at a league function, I suspect Harbs is going to give Pereira a HARD handshake, and there will be no Anthony Davis around to keep ’em separated.
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Eh I bet not
If they ever meet at a league function, I suspect Harbs is going to give Pereira a HARD handshake, and there will be no Anthony Davis around to keep ’em separated
Pereira is unlikely to ever have any real effect on anything Harbaugh does related to football, so I doubt Jim even bothers with the energy to be offended.
Also
Helmet to helmet should ABSOLUTELY BE SUBJECT TO INSTANT REPLAY. How many time has Desean Goldston stepped up and laid his shoulder into a reciever TEXT BOOK, and because it was violnt or too fast for these old refs, they call unecessary rouphness, or helmet to helmet. Madeu Willams in week one set the toner these falonious calls
yup those are getting called because the hits are too hard.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Actually the rule is any blow to the head
Doesn’t matter if you use your helmet or shoulder pad. I’ve actually thought Goldson has got away with a few this year, I only remember one penalty being called on him so far for this.
I'm not feeling witty enough right now
there is holding on every play
I can’t recall either Goldson or Madeu Willams actually took a shot at someone’s head. Is that your imagination. All the hits were below the shoulder pad on the penalty.
The problem is
When you catch the ball and see a hit incoming the first thing you do is tuck your chin to your chest and try to get low so you don’t get cut in half.
So a hit that a defender may be aiming at the numbers hits the head because the receiver ducks into it.
And these guys are moving very fast. They can’t take blows to the head out of this game until they start handing out flag belts.
Is this the same guy who said that the Goldson’s force fumble on Mike Williams should’ve been an incomplete pass?
Same guy
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by SportsChicken on Nov 8, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Can we all just agree Periera has no damn clue what he's talking about?
It’s pretty clear to me FOX thinks the idea of the 49ers in the playoffs is not very desirous. They would rather slobber over Tebow or slobber over Cam Newton and can’t have this tough San Fransisco team to watch, because all they do is win and that’s just boring. :)
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by rise_stand_resist on Nov 8, 2011 8:57 AM PST reply actions
Really
I think Bradshaw has been picking the Niners every game, and this weekend Johnson during the OT said the Niners are for real, it took a while but they are getting the credit. Even Strahan called them the best front 7 be interesting to see his stress level pregame with us playing his Giants
He does know what he's talking about.
It’s just that he’ll side with the refs every time.
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Pereira definitely was the kind of guy who got shoved in lockers in high-school...
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
Coaches FEAR the "Harbshake"
He reminds me of something out of a bug's life
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Why do I know who
Ed Hochuli, Mike Carey, Ron Winters, and Bill Leavy are? Shouldn’t referees be in the background instead of the spotlight?
hey did you hear about Ed Hochuli's suspension?
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by SportsChicken on Nov 8, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
it's quite obvious
He’s a Chargers~Raiders fan w/his head so far up his a** that he wouldn’t be able to tell his face from a hole in the ground
by Doni S on Nov 8, 2011 9:55 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Eh
A former VP of officiating will always side with the refs and be condescending toward argumentative coaches. That doesn’t mean the coach isn’t justified, though. Harbaugh DOES argue too often (many times I find myself saying, “Jim, let it go and focus on the game.”) However, he has quite a gripe on many calls (it seems impossible the refs could get worse, but I’m convinced they have this season). On the 3 man motion called a false start, I see both sides of the argument. It was a completely legal motion. HOWEVER, Smith simulated a snap count and the players moved immediately. I’m pretty sure that can be considered a violation. However, Smith CAN simulate a snap count if the players don’t move immediately and THEN Smith signals to the players to motion. I’m assuming this is the gist of what the league told Harbaugh. I like his attempt at deception, though.
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I think the ref was just unprepared and as confused as the D was
Then didn’t man up and wave off the flag.
Yeah, it was pretty weak
I’m unsure of the terminology in the NFL rulebook and whether it addresses simulating a snap count leading to a motion. But yeah, that penalty was pretty weak.
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let it go, folks
He’s just being like that wacky uncle you have at family parties who’s always dishing out unwanted advice to the youngin’s even though his own kids are high school dropouts serving time at Folsom.
I don't know about anyone else
But I was just as upset with the holding call on the screen the Skins tried to set up in the endzone…Beck immediately threw the ball at Helu’s feet as the screen was covered. Then there’s a defensive holding penalty that clearly couldn’t have possibly affected the play that lasted all of 2.5 seconds. Had them backed up inside the 5, all of a sudden it is a first down at about the 10.
Every coach in the entire NFL tries to work the referee's...
Harbaugh is still a rookie in how this is properly done. In all honestly, Pereira probably has a small point. Although, I disagree with the approach obviously.
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Pereira... ugh.
I don’t like him to start with, how do some of these people get their jobs… Sheesh.
It’s not Harbaugh’s fault he has a face made for the camera. Who wants to show footage of some ugly, fat, head coaches in this league.
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by 49erfannm on Nov 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Isn't a hard count trying to draw the defense offsides? Doesn't it simulate a snap?
It was fourth-and-1 and we have seen teams make sudden shifts, just trying to draw the defense offside.
That shift was solely done to draw a foul
So why is that illegal and a hard count isn’t? The reasons he gave as to why it is illegal are the same reasons QB’s use hard counts.
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couple things
it’s possible that the officials are torqued at Harbaugh – hence getting in the way, causing a couple Delay of Games/TOs. (one was because they mysteriously didn’t get the eligible receiver message) Also going against him with the shift on 4th and 1. Bad idea to piss off the zebras, especially when you like the tackle eligible, wacky shifts, and shinananigans (requires some cooperation with the ref).
In principle, there are no judgement calls.. but really.
Also regarding Perrera’s point – the HD cameras sure do love watching the HCs jaws move.
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Has been absolutely horrendous across every game I’ve watched this year. There have been at least 2-3 completely botched calls that have swung momentum of the game in about 75% of the games I’ve seen this year. It’s really completely baffling to me.
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