Finally figured out how to categorize AleX Smith!
Game manager DELUX
via www.bbqclubs.com
He's not a regular ol' game manager, he's Trent Dilfer slathered in BBQ sauce (great completion percentage) and topped with bacon (high TD/INT ratio). Not only that, but when you least expect it, POW, there's the peppercorn crust (toughness)!
The Game Manager DELUX ain't no fast food burger, but you'd rather have a steak (i.e. Manning, Brady, etc.). The Game Manager DELUX will never blow your mind, but you're always happy and full after your meal... cuz the combination of BBQ sauce and bacon is ALWAYS delicious. Would you rely on the Game Manager DELUX for your daily go to meal? Not without some roughage (Frank Gore... just imagine fiber loosening up the... uhh... defense. Yeah, sorry about that imagery).
In all seriousness, though, I love what Smith is doing this year. I think he can take the next step away from "Ho hum #1 pick draft bust." But even if he doesn't, he's proven that he is CAPABLE of being a viable NFL starter... and I hope he keeps it up. I think he's got the moxie, smarts, patience, and determination to get there... at least now that he's got a mildly capable offensive mind drawing up the plays (cue Jimmy Raye laser eyes GIF).
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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This burger is just as likely to give you a heart attack before you finish it
Much like watching Alex Smith in so many games.
I think your on to something here. Nice post.
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Does that mean Mark Sanchez is a Western Bacon Cheeseburger?
Only worth getting if you have zucchini to go with it.
In the world of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
_junior_ western bacon chee.
I’m trying to watch my figure.
[Poory Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
by zenbitz on Nov 9, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for the Tenacious D reference
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
I always thought it was funny how he switched from McDonalds to Carls Jr half way through
Put two of them up your ass, and give me four chicken McNuggets.
In the world of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
That's not quite fair...
If Trent Dilfer is your Day-Old McGameManager, Alex Smith is more than just the same pattie on a six-dollar bun with a squirt of Bullseye over bacon. I feel like there’s this sort of willful amnesia as to exactly how bad Trent Dilfer was. Dilfer’s best was Matt Hasselbeck in a down year (read: 2008-2010). Heck, Day-Old McGameManager is a compliment to Dilfer because, at least for 99 cents at 1 in the morning, it’s still a value.
No, Smith ain’t no steak. He’s not even a delicious steakburger. But you don’t buy him at the same place you get Day-Old McGameManager. You put your car in D, head down the street with your coupon, and run through the drive-through of that other burger place. You know, the one that doesn’t have a 99-cent menu. The one that, at least, makes your fries when you order them. And you pick up a nice single-single (11 on the menu) and try not to get thousand-island on your tie as you drive back to work for the afternoon rush.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2011 9:09 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Game Manager DELUX ain’t no fast food burger
You seem to have missed this part. The GameManager Delux is an honest to goodness half pounder made with real beef you get at a sit down restaurant. Dilfer a step above fast food: those QBs who look good in commercials, but always leave you hating yourself afterwards wondering “What was I thinking?!?!?!?!” Dilfer ain’t nothing special, but he won’t ruin your day. He had a few years when he was decent there.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 9, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I think I just had some kind of mental dissonance with the analogy, then. In my mind, a real beef half-pounder that you pay good money for just can’t be Game Manager Anything. That burger is clutch in all the right places. That’s a franchise burger. You want to eat that burger for the next five to seven years.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Alex is the good kind of delux burger
the one with the gooey delicious juices running down your hand as you eat it
Harbaugh for President
Here's a thought that should remove the "bust" word from around Alex:
Since Peyton Manning, the following QBs have been picked #1 in the draft:
Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, Matt Stafford, JaMarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, David Carr, Tim Couch, Michael Vick.
Of those QBs, only one has had any season where he completed a higher percentage of passes than Alex is completing this year. Half of them have never had a season with better than SMith’s 7.1 Y/A. And unless you count Vick’s 13-attempt season, only one of them has had a year with as low an INT% as Smith has.
Of course, Smith has to keep that up, and it seems unlikely that his INT% will remain quite so low (although his YPA is trending up). But nevertheless, it’s telling.
disingenious
he’s clearly better than the true busts in this list, and clearly worse than Vick, Eli, Stafford and probably Newton. Even if he might have slightly better stats than them for 1/2 a season.
The only guys that are interesting comparisons are Bradford – who in his first 2 years played as well as Alex Smith after 4 or 5 – and Palmer – who clearly is a WTH guy for 2011+ but has had a much better career than Smith to date.
I guess he’s not technically a bust though.
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
and clearly worse than Vick, Eli, Stafford and probably Newton
Speak for yourself… because it’s NOT clear to EVERYONE.
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It's not
I’d pick Stafford from the list as the low hanging fruit. Megatron has made every QB he’s played with look much better than he really is. You take away the “when in doubt, chuck it up to Megatron” option and Stafford’s decision making looks very poor.
ok sure Johnson helps Stafford out.
but Stafford is better than AleX is pretty much every category – standard or modern stats – except INT% and completion . competion % is close any besides a silly comparison is Stafford throws many more deep balls. As for INT Stafford has 4 in 300 attempts and Alex has 2 in 200. So +/- 1 INT really not much.
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Stats do not = better quarterback in ALL scenarios (including this one)
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Gimme Alex's 5 to 1 Int ratio without a superstar WR (Steve Smith)
over Cam Newton’s massive yardage and poor decisions passing the ball WITH a superstar WR and his 20.0 YPC average.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 9, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
I can already see Cam's career following the Daunte Culpepper route.
Dynamite to start… Then his elite WR leaves and he comes back to earth a bit… Then towards his mid 20’s his knees start to hurt and his body breaks down and he has to become a pocket passer… all of a sudden he’s completely ordinary physically and he still isn’t a good cerebral QB. Next then you know he’s playing in Gary, Indiana for a semi-pro team on Saturday afternoons in the middle of summer.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 9, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
sure
but Culpepper’s career is still better than Alex’s TO DATE. Sure Newton makes bad throws – his defense is awful and he’s a rookie. DESPITE THAT – stats that factor in his INTs still rate him better than Smith. Better success rate, better DVOA, better EPA, better WPA, better YPA, better AYPA — this is true of Stafford as well.
Newton and Stafford have been better statistically than Vick even, let alone Smith.
If you want to say it’s all the OL and receivers – OK – I cannot dispute that or really agree with it. I could counter with the fact that Det. and Carolina don’t really have a run game to open up the passing game for them. All I am saying is that on any basis I can judge – these guys are playing better OVERALL than Smith at QB.
I don’t even dislike Smith – I think he’s perfectly adequate. But he’s not a top 10 NFL QB. He’s 11-18.
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
I'd take Alex over Suckpepper
10 times out of 10
Harbaugh for President
He's got to keep "whatever he's doing this year" up
And just because 50% of #1 picked QBs have been busts, and Alex wasn’t the worst of the bunch, doesn’t make old Alex “not a bust.” It just makes him a VW Rabbit instead of a Pinto.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 9, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think he's a bust.
To me a bust is a guy like Ryan Leaf. Busts play themselves out of the league. Alex is still starting. Has he lived up to expectations? No, but I don’t see Alex as a bust.
Dessert...
Post-game handshakes and Frank Gore’s diamond encrusted dogtags
I like this post
Most QBs have to be the best in the league in order to be considered in a category of their own. Alex isn’t elite, nor will he ever flirt with being elite. But whatever kind of QB he is, I think he’s the best in his class.
Humm... sounds like
Like a Camry with a camper shell.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2011 11:05 PM PST
Another excellent comparison.
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by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 9, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely amazing!
I too am impressed with the way “Saint” Alex has played this year. And for those not familiar with me….I HAVE BEEN ONE OF HIS HASHEST CRITICS HERE AT NN! I have heard for years off all the greatness Alex possess as a QB, and for the past 6 yrs I haven’t SEEN it. All the stats in the world to me has been for nothing as his play simply didn’t manifest into WINS! However, I have watched all the games form this season and I must say….the turn about is like night and day. Gone (hopefully) are the days of Alex passing for almost 300 yds and 4 picks. Instead, Jim has him passing and average of about 18-19 times a game for 150 yds. 2 td’s and maybe 1 int. But, what is most impressive is that as a game manager, he hasn’t LOST games for the Niners. Instead he seems to relish his position as simply a cog in the machine. Not the head, not the tail….right in the middle. I love this new Alex and I hope that he expands on this solid base of less is more. I wouldn’t be to mad if he can comntinue this and garner a 2-3 year extention for himself till Collin is ready to take the reigns full time. Take a bow Alex, you’ve earned it.
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19-4 TD/INT Ratio in the last 12 or so games.
It’s not night and day, he was ok before, now he is good. Everything around him is better as well so that correlates also. People haven’t been able to objectively analyze Smith’s play because of the emotional baggage of him going #1 in the draft. Remember virtually all the experts said it was a bad draft for QBs and A. Smith was the best of that draft. Yet A. Rodgers could very well be the best ever to have played the game by the time he’s done. All that baggage and blind expectations had the fan base calling for Smith’s head. I’m glad he stuck it out and he’s now showing his true potential, that of a GOOD NFL QB.
A. Smith + tiger blood + Harbaugh = #winning
Point of order....
Personally, I could care less WHERE he was drafted. As far as I’m concerned it’s whether he plays well or not that matters to me. Montana wasn’t chosen till late in the draft, and he won us 4 Super Bowls. So that arguement goes out the window. As for dear Alex, as I said, jis stats said he was a good QB, his play ON the field looked like DOO! DOO! I am now given the guy props because he’s helping to move thechains, keep drives alive, and no longer is looked upon as a guy who should play like Mannning (pick one), Brees, Brady, etc. Having to lead the team to victories which is something that no one here can argue he accomplished well. He is now flourishing under a coach who simply asks him to do minimum work, with long rewards. Why are you trying to say that’s a bad thing? Top Dog…8-8, Game manager….9-1…you do the math.
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Keep in mind Alex would look even better without all the drops
We’re one of the league leaders in drops if I’m not mistaken
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lol, this made me laugh
Btw, what ingredient would account for his mobility? Something that might… give you the runs? badum ching
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Giants Fan perspective
As a fan of the Giants, I am incredibly sick and tired of the continual “is Eli elite?” debate, so I would recommend that you guys just not worry about it and root for the guys you have. The entire debate is manufactured by the sports media because they just don’t have that much to talk about. The criteria for an “elite QB” is statistical excellence combined with rings, which is a solipsistic argument because what comes first, the eliteness or the stats or the rings? Would Eli be in the debate if he hadn’t had a great defense in 2007? Would Rothlisburger be elite if he didn’t have a historically great defense? It’s just a huge waste of time. I hate it when the media becomes the story, and this is a case of exactly that, people wasting time debating what some idiots spout off on ESPN.
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Points for using "solipsistic." I had to look it up.
I think a good point to make is that Rothlisberger up till maybe the last couple years could definitely be put in the “slightly better than game manager” category. He was never a defining factor and has also never won a Super Bowl MVP. He’s a good quarterback that has alway been part of a complete team when they’ve been dominant. But I think most media consider him “elite” now. I’d personally put him in the 2nd tier of QB’s, along with Eli and Alex.
Harbaugh for President
Yeah but Rich..
The real question is what sort of Qburger is Eli

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