49ers Vs. Cardinals: So, About Frank Gore....
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 5:50 PM PST
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The San Francisco 49ers have found a lot of success this season by establishing a strong rushing attack and complementing it with a solid mix of passes. While there is no magic number for runs or passes, when the 49ers have been successful, Alex Smith has often been in that mid-20s to low-30s pass attempt total. It is not a scientific calculation but it is still something to consider.
Against the Cardinals, the 49ers were throwing passes a lot more frequently and Coach Harbaugh even indicated the game plan was a bit more pass heavy than normal. Smith was 18 of 37 while getting sacked five times. It was not a pretty passing performance as the team seemed to stray away from the run at times.
Frank Gore finished the game with 10 carries while Kendall Hunter finished with eight carries. There has been some speculation Gore might have been banged up or that the 49ers were working to rest him a bit. Coach Harbaugh said it was all part of the game plan, but I'm not sure what to think about the decisions with regards to the rushing game. I'm not saying the 49ers were going to find great success by giving Gore the ball 20+ times, but it leaves me scratching my head.
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49ers had a third and short, followed by a fourth and short, and I don't understand why Gore didn't get the ball.
Kudos to Gore for picking up his fifth season of 1,000+ yards, though.
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bench roman!
But only once we pass the 30 yard line.
Bad call, for sure. But not as bad if the damn o-line held up.
On those final plays, Vernon Davis stood still and did nothing, another thing that infuriated me. Either way, it’s a bad call circumstantially considering how the o-line had been giving up pressure all day.
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My biggest problem with the offense is the same problem we had against the Ravens.
Their defense was begging to be torn up by intuitive screen plays, slant routes and moving pockets. Gore should have gotten more carries, and as a result, there should have been more play action. This should be a cohesive, functioning offense – not one that doesn’t know what it wants to be. The personnel is intimidating playing the slant, screen, etc. It should be used more.
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no kidding... the first 6 or 7 weeks of the season, i was ok with it.
but now that we’re near the end of the season, our offense should be much more creative by now.
Unless we get things going in the next few weeks, the FO might have to make some changes with offensive coaching.
See, but they were doing that near the beginning. Not a lot, but there was a fine line between too gimmicky (the silly shifts) and intuitive.
Now it’s just sort of get out there and hope for the best. I don’t understand it.
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maybe their plan was to abandon the run for the second half of the season only to come back to it in the playoffs
to throw off the other teams… We can all hope, right?
I'm going to have to re-watch it on TV...
There were a lot of things I think I missed by being there.
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Hard truth
For the first time all season, the Niners lost a game in part due to coaching. It happens to every team. This was ours. The play calling and game plan on offense was poor. An extra timeout at the end of the 1st half would’ve given us one more shot at a TD. One more at the end of game would’ve given Ginn a punt return chance.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I agree
Both sides of the ball had questionable play calling. I can’t figure out why they didn’t just double Fitzgerald all game, which was very successful last time. Or they could have at least rushed more than 4 players to the QB. They just seemed very passive. Deserved to lose this one.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
the coaching
hasn’t been real great all year…it has just yet to cost us in the W column all that often…that in itself is amazing
Focus on the positive sometimes… like, really.
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The coaching hasn't been real great all year?
The coaching on the 10-3 DIVISION WINNING 49ERS hasn’t been real great all year?
Do tell……
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Colts
I’m not saying I agree on the point of coaching, but the Colts went 14-2 two years ago with Jim Caldwell running things and he is not “great.”
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not saying I agree on the point of coaching, but the Colts went 14-2 two years ago withJim CaldwellPeyton Manning and Larry Coyer running things and he is not "great."
Fixed
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point being...
Just because a team is successful, doesn’t automatically mean the coaching is great. Not saying I agree with that sentiment in this regard, but it’s not automatic.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Well nothing is… but I think a good and bad coaching staff can make a huge impact… as we’ve seen this year with our own Niners.
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coaching staff
I have some question marks on occasion about the staff. Well, at least the offensive staff. Fangio and Seely are pretty much money in my opinion. Roman has some question marks, although what is game-planning issues and what is execution issues is hard to figure out.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Me too ... on Roman..
I just posted that at the bottom of the page
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Any discussion post this week to flesh that out?
Especially as it pertains to the red zone and/or use of specific receiving weapons? Seems that Crabtree was frustrated (justifiably IMO) after this game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Probably Gore too even though he'd never admit it being the ultimate team guy he is
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Agree w/you 100%, David...
I meant “IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE”, but you’re right, it’s not automatic.
Harbaugh and his staff though? Just every bit as good as we hoped they’d be and then some…
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
We got outcoached against the Ravens also.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
No
We got manhandled in the trenches
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Outcoached too, and again today, Harbaugh had that same baffled look.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
Good thing it's only happened twice this year, eh?
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No doubt.
It’s not the end of the world that we get outcoached sometimes, it happens to the best of ‘em. There are many good coaches in the NFL. I’m not pissed about this game because I’m glad we finally are a competitive team and have coaches that will can stand up against the competition on a weekly basis; that’s all I ask for at this point.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
In our three losses, we've only lost by 15 points total.
In our losses, it’s not like we are getting blown out.
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Not at all.
I thought that today it seemed like we had a similar plan offensively to the Giants game—assuming they would stack the box to stop the run and then pass it all day, but this time it didn’t work. Defensively we played fine I thought, just didn’t execute and gave up the big plays.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
No
We got screwed by the schedule. And still had a tie game going to the 4Q. That game was not a coaching issue, it was a preparation issue.. as in not enough time to prepare mentally for a complicated defense.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Hopefully this is alex smiths last year
He looked like he rattled we should have.let CK7get some much needed reps. Because we must look for our qb of the future because its def. Not Alex.
by Zintzun22niner on Dec 11, 2011 5:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Alex does look like a deer in the headlight and he had that 2nd half shell shocked look of the past few years in the 2nd half of this game. I agree that he’s playing about as well as he ever will. He’s maxed out his ability. However, he gives us the best chance for the next two years. Kaep won’t be ready for at least another year or so.
qb?
I agree we need to look for our franchise qb, but in what round? We need a corner and a wide receiver. Do we give Kap. A shot? A lot to ponder.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 6:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You have to give Kaep a shot. You don’t draft a 2nd rounder without giving him a shot. Unless of course you see things in practice that tells you he’s not the future. Based on Harbaugh’s comments, he seems pretty high on Kaep.
49ers should be drafting the best player at their needs position. I don’t think they will draft a QB high next year.
they could have drafted Yates
in the 4th or 5th round and he’d be more ready than Kaep…besides the fact that he’s actually better and more suited to play the position, which is kinda important
To be fair, we saw Yates with a couple of full games. Kaep has not played more than a series. I’m not saying Kaep will be just as good but we can’t pass judgment without seeing him in action.
We can pass judgment
on Kaep on what we have seen and what we know about his skill set and college history, which has been underwhelming, when translated to the NFL, like Tebow, to put it mildly.
Really?
John Elway’s first full season he threw for 1600 yards 7 TD and 14 INT. Should the Broncos draft their next QB after John’s first mediocre year?
Elway was a stud
at Stanford and had a skill set that correlated to success in the NFL…Kaep was a pistol QB who had never done the requisite things necessary to be an NFL QB til draft camps…saying he will be good, let alone a franchise QB, is a shot in the dark that lacks evidence or reason. I never said 1st year stats should dictate how one views a QB.
So is saying he will bust.
You have no idea or clue either… You think you’re some kind of goddamn guru or something but truth of the matter is nobody knows… so leave it at that
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Ponder
You were pretty demonstrative about your feelings regarding Christian Ponder before set foot on an NFL field.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
And he was benched for Webb today, right?
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that's not the point
Kaepernick has not been put in a position to be benched yet. The issue is a person’s thoughts before he has set significant foot on an NFL field. You had plenty of criticisms of Ponder before he set foot on an NFL field. If you were allowed to be very critical of Ponder based on his college performances, why shouldn’t others be allowed to be very critical of Kaepernick based primarily on what he brings to the table from college?
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Fine, whatever.
It just sucks when fans of a team that they supposedly support are the ones doing it…
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support and criticism
You can be annoyed by his negativity and criticize it. But you can’t be annoyed by him doing what you’ve done to some extent as well. That’s all I’m saying.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
I can be annoyed all I want when I see supposed fans
saying nothing but negative crap about this team left and right…
I carry balance with my comments both negative and positive.
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I never said you didn't
That’s not what this was about.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Love debating with you, but the ultimate fan stuff can be left out.
I don’t know about Kaep, but I’d rather find out about him next season than look at #11 for 2 or 3 mroe years.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
I'm allowed to be annoyed with certain crap just like anyone else
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Says nothing about being annoyed, calling someone a supposed fan makes it seem to think you are the ultimate fan, whether your comments are sound or kool-aid based...
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
I dont think I am at all...
But all these negative nancy’s can go for all I care…
Even you are negative about a lot of things… but you at least have positive comments to balance it out to make folks understand that you are a fan…
Nobody ever questions it with you.
Others on this board, not so much.
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Well, that's why I said seems, i knwo the real deal, just point it out from a perspective from someone that knows you mean well.
Not everyone understands that I want to see Smith succeed. It’s just that while playing better, I think that his inconsistencies I have always looked at atre still very inconsistent.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
AS is alot of things,
but he is better than Kaep with probably a better ceiling, though Kaep’s play in preseason next year will help. I do know it’s a big mistake to lose AS and give Kaep the reigns next year.
Speak for yourself. We will draw the top of each NFC division next year.
If the defense isn’t #1 in everything the 9ers may be a .500 team or worse.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
In the offense we are looking at, mediocre play is substantial. Don't turn the ball over make one read tuck and see if someone gets open or get a first down with your legs.
I could trust a rookie with the simple stuff I am seeing.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
what's the word?
sounds kinda like hippo.
great point, fooch.
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Dec 12, 2011 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
he's not saying Ponder is great
he is saying that you are wrong and kind of a hypocrite. You and some others may very well be right about Ponder having some innate disability in terms of avoiding crucial mistakes and imploding. And you should give yourself kudos for that.
That being said, he has shown more of an ability to move an offense than Kaep has at any level.
Really?
Is that why he got benched for a 3rd string QB today?
We haven’t seen Kaep, so why while you’re “techincally” right… you’re still wrong in the sense that there is nothing to compare apples to apples with yet.
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10000 passing yards and 4000 rushing
Is that not enough to demonstrate that he has at teh vry least shown some ability to move the ball at his level in college? Or do I smell a troll?
did you watch him throw the ball?
Did you observe that the transition to the NFL was going to be rocky at best? Tim Tebow was the greatest QB in college history. He still sucks as an NFL QB. Tommy Frazier was the arguably the best college QB in history. Did his ability to move the Nebraska offense impress you as a niner fan?
Tommy Frazier died in college..
How the hell is that relative?
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The Nebraska QB?
He didn’t die. Not really sure what you’re talking about.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Blood clot... I thought I remembered him dying
But I guess not… point remains the same… It’s not relative to the whatever cockamamie point that was trying to be made above that.
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Frazier died
from a blood clot well after his playing days were over I believe…Karl Cuba seems to think that: excellence in college = NFL caliber
I didn't read his comment like that
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Did he die?
I thought he was still alive.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Have you had a good look at his small number of throws this year?
His issue coming out of college was that he was throwing like a very mobile pitcher. However, I always thought that the root cause of his elongated release and open footedness could be put down to his large, baseball style throwing stride. He’s already reduced that a great deal and the ball still comes out of his hand like a laser. Him and Newton shared the highest up-side in the draft at qb last year.
I will refer you to my question, which was aimed at you assertion that he has never demonstrated the ability to move the ball at any level. 14000 yards is quite a lot.
I'd add that
His smaller delivery stride appears to have translated into a more compact delivery thoug obviously until he has been game tested there is no way to know whether or not that will regress when fatigued or under duress
long stride
I’m still a bit concerned with the long stride. I find myself wondering how much of that is inherent because of his huge wingspan?
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think it's a height thing
He’s the same height as Brady, Peyton Manning and Brady, they all have quick releases. I think it’s a technique issue, he has the athleticism.
height
I don’t think height matters either. I’m talking about his wingspan when he spreads his arms out. I don’t know if it’s been measured, but he looks to have a monstrous wingspan.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Steve Young was the same way.
He turned out alright, eh?
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Montana = G.O.A.T
People who actually got to see both know that to be truth.
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they were different QBs
And there are actually some differing opinions. And that is actually alright. It makes for fun debate. There are few black and white issues in sports.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
I'd take Joe
But I think that Steve, pre Ray Buchannan induced shoulder injury is one of the top ten all time
Montana won 3 SB’s and beat SY as a Chief… He was the better quarterback… no QB in history threw the ball better. But the system had a HUGE impact on both.
But anyone who followed the team since 1980ish will tell you hands down Montana was better.
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I would bet on it... majority anyway.
You became a fan when Young was the QB, right?
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Oh, I thought you did when you moved to SF.
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no...
I’ve mentioned it briefly in previous posts. I grew up in Las Vegas. Born in 1979. My dad’s from Boston but wasn’t as big a Patriots fan as Red Sox and Celtics. I didn’t have a team as a kid so seeing as I was a kid in the ’80s, there were fairly obvious options. I picked the 49ers then.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that rings a bell now.
My bad.
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no worries
I don’t really talk about my fandom history all that frequently. I posted once or twice, and was actually also interviewed for the 49ers game day magazine a couple years ago.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been around long enough though. I shoulda remembered and do now that you said it.
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So did I
But I’ve dug around and found all the tapes of Montana games I can find and he was incredible. He’s rated as the best by the two pundits I respect the most (Dr Z and Mike Carlson, who is the best thing about NFL coverage in the UK)
Is Dr Z still writing for anyone?
I always loved his articles….can’t remember where I read them even….grr I am getting old I guess.
unfortunately
he suffered a series of strokes a three or four years ago and hasn’t yet regained the ability to speak or write, he is still rehabbing and he used to write for SI
so SB wins (a team award)
indicates who is better? And head-to-head matchups too? Silly. So Dilfer is better than Marino…There is no difinitive answer to who is better, but Young was better IMO and more versatile obviously.
Not when the QB was pretty much responsible for throwing several game winning TD’s to win games in important playoff and superbowl games.
Young had one Superbowl and they annihilated the Chargers…a team. Montana had more individual success (team aside) than Young did.
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it is not logical to
gauge individuals, comparatively, by using team accomplishments as the barometer.
Apparently you did not read what I wrote.
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debate
I have always said Montana was the best ever(at least after his 3rd Superbowl). My brother, who is the smartest person I know like Young. He has a good argument when you bring in his athletic abilities. But neither QB was good at the start. Is a veal shoot. Look at Cam. He looks great but hasn’t won. What is in his future? Cam he be a Superbowl QB? Will he ever get on a team that gives him that chance. The pieces need to fall just right for this to happen. I think this is Alex’s chance. It’s do or die.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 8:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
take it for what it's worth
but a buddy of mine told me has met Rice and asked him who threw a better ball, and he said it was “Young without a doubt.” I already thought Young was better, but I thought that comment was interesting, and perhaps telling
Yeah, Ive heard Rice say that too...
But I have a feeling (almost remember) that there was bad blood when Joe left to go to another team. So take that for what it’s worth as well.
You will never see Rice and Montana together anywhere but will occasionally see Young and Rice together.. and now both work for ESPN.
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I read the opposite forever
Rice had trouble with the lefty throws that made the ball spin the opposite direction and that he had to watch the ball into his hands. Montana he didn’t
not the right article but shows some of what I'm saying
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-08-06/sports/22205867_1_steve-young-balls-hall-of-fame-quarterbacks
He still said that once he made the adjustment he was fine
Well
he had been used to catching Montana’s passes for so long, that when the ball started coming to him with the opposite spin it was a bit awkward for him at first…
Even if Steve “threw a better ball” … Montana was much more clutch and threw a much better “touch” pass than Young ever could…
Montana was probably the most precise, check that, WAS the most precise QB to ever play the game.
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Well then you’d be wrong … as usual
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Had you been old enough to watch both
I think you would have a different opinion of that.
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Yeah
He’s like 22 or 23 or something like that
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stats
I think you make some good points, but I think given how different the college game is, it goes well beyond numbers, good or bad.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Huh? Cam Newton outdid all of his seasons in one year, and it was the first in that offense.
Not to mention he looks 10 times better in the league.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
I think there were and are good reasons
to have believed Cam’s game, based on his skill set and what he demonstrated as a QB in college (not the undefeated season), was likely to translate into becoming a solid, playmaking QB. He demonstrated a skill set that Kaep never did, and still hasn’t.
He played one season at QB for Auburn, he was on the bench behind Tebow.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
Pistol isn't any more gimmicky than that shit Tebow runs.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
Or what Cam Newton ran for that matter...
And Sam Bradford ran a form of the pistol at times too… just wasn’t set up to run all the time.
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wrong comparison
He’s pointing more to the idea that he does not think Kaepernick was a good prospect coming out of college. I disagree, but he is not the only person who thinks Kaepernick is not a great QB prospect.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
Montana was not a “good prospect” either… and Young was a “bust” before Walsh got to them…
It’s pointless to make comments either way.
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The difference is that
QBs like Montana or Elway or Brady had demonstrated a skill set that was compatible with the NFL game…just as Yates would have been a smarter pick in the 5th round than Kaep was in the 2nd…or teh 7th for that matter..
I am saying that there is a reasonable, justifiable position that renders Kaep a marginal player until proven otherwise, while there is nothing other than homerism and wishful thinking to assert that it is likely or plausible that Kaep becomes a franchise QB,let alone a QB worthy of employment in the NFL.
That's where you are wrong.
You are too young to remember any of that. Do some homework on how raw Montana was. Why in the hell do you think he was a 3rd rounder?
Young was a bust…
Coaching was the difference…
You clearly and obviously dont know what the heck you’re talking about.
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Walsh
made them work night and day, day and night on fundamentals and footwork (which is key)…
If a player is smart enough (which both Kaep and Smith are) to pick it up, anything is possible.
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but you already think
AS is legit…you have said you are satisfied with AS and think he is a upper echalon QB…
He can be…
Year 1 with Harbaugh… could be more to come… Finally a coach that places importance on the QB position. He had the tools when he was drafted and there was nobody to teach him the way he needed to be… he has that now.
He has shown ability to lead the team, and the team follows.
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Are we watching the same games?
Where AS lacks the ability to examine down the field, where he refuses to take chances (because he know his own history and his own inability to make those tough throws)…
I like the fact that Harbaugh is his coach, but I don’t think Harbaugh is an offensive genius, and cleary his staff isn’t either, so long term, I don’t think Harbugh as the coach is the answer to AS’s problems or the QB position going forward.
I think it is imperative that they improve at that position going forward, if they want to be taken seriously around the league and perpetually contend for the playoffs and beyond.
I find it extremely hilarious that you don't show your face
around here when things are going well but the second there is bad game, you are the first one here eagerly posting a bunch of crap
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I've been around since week 1
I told it was bad after the week 1 win — and how nothing, in terms of play calling, etc. — had changed. I told you this team was waiting for a let down since the first few weeks because they seemed perfectly content riding the game out til the end with a 1 possession (or less) lead til the 4th qtr, and it was, and still is, bound to kill them. It also limits their upside. If this same team had E Manning, just to name one example, I’d be excited about the NIner’s 10-3 record. I’d think their chances of going deep in the playoffs is plausible.
In short, things haven’t gone bad, our team has always been on the cusp of losing/winning games. We’re a marginal division leader, always have been. One predictable loss against a division rival on the road doesn’t change that.
FTW!
Torch the whole team to the ground…
Screw the Niners!!
I am with you all the way!!!!
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Riiiigggghhtt
Because he DIDN’T do those things just a week ago… good call… lame
I sware… some people are just blinded by their hatred toward the guy for whatever reason.
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Yeah, I get that...
I, myself have had doubts, I even admitted he played like garbage today… but I DONT have those blinders on and can see him for what he is THIS YEAR… and he is not nearly half as bad as you let on…
Those past years have obviously built such a monument of a barrier for you that NOTHING he did would ever take any of that away. And that is major BS
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I disagree that this year
has been that great (for him), first of all. Second of all, why are his first six years an aberration that should be dismissed while this year should be acknolwedged to supersed those first six.
And its far beyond that anyways. Smith shows the same flaws this year, but he has a better team that has him in better situations and h’e making less mistakes. The problem is he never makes enough plays, and with these losses, fans are starting to realize that. I think it’s been quite obvious. Smith has demonstrated an inability to be relied upon to be versatile and decisive enough in his reads.
Never said he was "great"
But he is playing much better this year opposed to any other year… denying that is simply being naive.
And I am not saying he is the QB for the next 10 years, but I also don’t discount it…
Would I love to see us draft a QB like Manning? Hell yes… but that is not the current reality… But I am a fan of this team, and when Alex is in there, I root for him to do well… because if he is successful, the team is too… I want the team I root for to win… that’s it WIN. And we have been winning… WITH SMITH AS OUR QB!
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Smith? Based on what?
No pump fakes, pre-snap reads, his only pre-snap adjustment is a timeout. Captain batdown out there to day. Although I don’t think the OC is putting him in a position to do his best with what he has.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
That's you.
Harbaugh obviously STILL has faith in him so that’s all that matters.
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yes,
harbuaugh is all-knowing, all-powerful, thus a decision he makes cannot, in principle, be mistaken; thus, any decision he makes should not be second guessed…
WOW…
Yeah ...he's obviously a HUGE dousche
He (as a rookie HC) doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground at 10 – 3.
God… I wish we would just get rid of him… he knows nothing!
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montana
He wasn’t the most polished QB the Niner had at the start. What he did have was Walsh and the ability to improve. Alex has improved, but the question should be…. Can he continue to improve. It’s been a very slow development, not all his fault either. But can he take it to the next level? I don’t think so, but I was wrong with Montana. I thought we should be playing Deburg until proven wrong, soon after Montana finally took the starting role for good. We have given Alex the chances over and over. I look at this as his last chance, unless he does something in the playoffs. He needs to win a game. I mean put the team on his shoulders and win one when it counts. Next week could be that time. I am not talking about a victory. I am talking about Alex winning a meaningful game.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 8:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Montana didn't get 7 years of starting experience
before he got good cause no team would give any QB that length of time.
Ahh… got it.
How about this comparison: neither Brady nor Montana was rated high on the draft board either. =)
this is not the basis, premise, or foundation of
why I have said the glee for Kaep is intemperate and irrational.
Thats why I wanted to see what he has
Especially now while we all knew alex wasn’t going to win us this game. He had no rhythm and most of the time didn’t even give his receivers a chance to run their route heck he didn’t even give himself a chance He was clearly scared.
by Zintzun22niner on Dec 11, 2011 6:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He had pressure all day
Alex did the best he could look at the last play of the game, ted ginn lost the ball on one could have been a touchdown earlier in the game.
I dont have confidence in kaepernik he didnt look good in pre season he has to prove me wrong
draft laundry johnson from oklohoma for the future
by Toluca_Niner_JR on Dec 11, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Laundry Johnson?
Is he going to work in the headquarters keeping everyone’s gear clean.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
lol
the guy who hand-sews the penalty flags
by itsAteamGAME on Dec 11, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
thats his name
look for him on youtube youll see what i am talking about
by Toluca_Niner_JR on Dec 11, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Landry Jones
Hate to correct people.
by wtlichens on Dec 11, 2011 7:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not at all really
He was throwing bullets behind his recievers all day. Though I must add some of these recievers did have oppurtunity.
by Zintzun22niner on Dec 11, 2011 6:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I really hate how most of the Niner fanbase is ready to villify Alex for one bad game
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by rise_stand_resist on Dec 11, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
one bad game?
I do like Alex’s character, his work ethics and him as a person, but you can’t say this was his only bad game. Pardon me coach, but he has managed most of the games. He hasn’t won any of them.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 6:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
wins are a team stat to begin with
but his pin point, laser throw to Delanie against the Lions didn’t win the game? His perfect 3rd quarter with two TD’s didn’t beat the Eagles? What am I missing?
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 11, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
You have to actuall yput in words what win the games means. He did have other players on thoe drives helping out.
He has made bad passes and players have dropped perfect ones. It’s a stupid argument when it vcomes to wins. he couldn’t put up the points today, but is it just him? No, it’s ludacris…..the rapper…lol
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
But he’s for sure had more good than bad… and led 3-4 comeback from behind victories this year. Your troll blinders have you blind to reality.
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He hasn't had to do much for the niners to win so far
which, as I have said before, will likely not bear out late in the season, into the playoffs, or into next season and beyond. Your statement also dismisses 6 years of work.
Do people around the country just hate Smith or do they really see that this guy is a marginal QB?
6 years is the past... get over it already.
He’s clearly not the same QB under Harbaugh… if you say any different, it just confirms what everyone here already thinks of you and your hyperbole
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I get it… you’re not impressed… you’ve expressed that 1,452,999 times
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I feel my reasons are compelling
but yours are not… so if you can share why you think otherwise, that would be helpful…I want the niners to be contenders (for the SB, not a glorified .500 team like last year) for consecutive years on end, not some fluke playoff team that may still end up 11-5 (or worse, or better) because they were enamored with a QB that led them to double digit wins after nearly a decade of mediocrity.
The Niners killed their franchise for more than half a decade drafting alex smith, they can help negate that damage by finally cutting ties with him after 7 damn seasons. Signing him to a 4-5 yr $30 million contract will be compounding the deathly mistake of taking him in 2005. I have no sympathy for a franchise that does that.
Then go root for someone else who does it right then
You have that option… I won’t stop you from it. Nor will anyone else
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don't be silly...
…I can’t change my team if I wanted to…it’s something that develops (usually anyways) at an early age, and through ups and downs, one’s attachment doesn’t waver…they’re always their team…I have a long-time affinity for the A’s. I wish I didn’t. But I can’t change it
Sure... people change teams all the time.
I think you should. I think you should root for the Packers… you MIGHT be happy then. But I have my doubts even then.
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You can justify it in that Rodgers was a bay area product.
So there ya go!!
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Different FO, Different Coaches, Different Players, Different Year
Every year is a new year… and every years should start with hope.
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I'm saying I don't
and there is something artificial about changing teams, especially multiple times.
What is more artificial is the way you comment about a team
you supposedly love, root for, follow, and are loyal to.
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It's kind of like family
they tend to be in my life and I root for them but it doesn’t, nor shouldn’t, stop me from telling say, a brother, that he’s being a dick or that he really screwed up that job interview.
Sports do not = family… that’s your problem.
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reading comprehension
it was an example to illuminate my point, it was not equating the importance of favorite sports teams with family…
Your example is flawed… that is your problem… again…
It’s your reading comprehension that is in question…
Sports are not serious… family is different. So your analogy gets an “F”
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sports can equal family to some extent
For a lot of folks, they are born into a certain fandom and don’t have much choice about it. When you are raised a fan of a certain team since childhood, you can’t just drop it and adopt another team without some crazy circumstances.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
well
If we’re gonna play God as to who is a real fan, I’d say people that abandon their team that quickly are not “real fans.”
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Neither are ones who criticize at all costs IMO
A better analogy would be a parent who beats their kid for breathing the wrong way… thats more spot on.
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TRUTH IS
we are sick of watching alex xmith get sacked the only thing he hasnt done this year is got hurt , what he is doing this year is year is the same things he was doing last year especially in the red zone!, we grew up watching joe montana and steve young play we had jerry rice as our reciever and corners that could cover like crazy. alex smith has all the weapons he needs around him, we shouldve never got rid of sean hill! we have seen this for the last 7 years its time for a change
So what's the solution?
Who do they draft? Top 4-5 QBs will be off the board by the time their pick comes around.
Who can they sign/trade for? Manning? Already peaked, and one head shot ends his career. Josh Johnson? Tempting, but I see him more equal to Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon than a QBOTF.
Please offer a list of valid solutions at this position – and remember that “he’s better than Alex” is NOT valid. The standard is a hell of a lot higher than that.
7th year
Why does everyone insist that he has been playing for seven full seasons….he was virtually injures for most of or all of 3 of them, which by the way we still sucked while he was out. I am so tired of people especially niner. Fans saying how much better we would be without him. We havent fared any better . I still believe we would have made the playoffs last year if singletary lets him start when he came back from injury, instead of doing what some of you insane people wanna do and lets see where Kaep will take us.. that kid has never had a good team good team around or decent coaching staff around him. I’m not blind like some fans. Our offense was horrible and extremely talentless. Outsides of gore Smith really had no weapons. On this very site I remember reading how you guys thought v. D. Was a bust and should be putting up better numbers. It wasn’t til Alex got back in the starting line up when exploded.. I still don’t think he has the wideouts to be successful. You guys are gonna replace the qb. And we are still gonna have the same issues. Our Kline can’t handle pressure(like always)and we have no real threats on the perimeter. I like our new coaching staff but the reason we can’t score in the red zone is play calling. Its obvious. Middle of the field no problem. We get on the one and the coaches aren’t sure what to do. I would like to think as true 49er fans we could recognize good quarterback play but is escaping some of you. How about good wideout play? How many dropped passes or rumbles are we going to have to see before you guys finally criticize them?I watched soo many of his int’s happen because of our wideoits making stupid playsJust like how Alex Smith doesn’t play defense. Many a game last year and this year our secondary has lost games for us, been since we have a great d no
one says anything. nlets be real, we have a weak secondary. Not as bad as in the past, but that’s where we need to improve. No way Dallas beats us if we don’t make 3 retarded plays in the secondary.
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 2:10 AM PST up reply actions
my point is
We are 10-3, because of our new coaching staff AND Alex Smith. Give him some credit. So we lost today. Blame can be spread all over the place for this one.. but we are in the playoffs, have a winning season and have the team with the best chance to. Take out the super bowl champs. Are you guys really complaining about how how Alex played today. Maybe you haven’t been watching the niners the past decade or so but I’m a little more excited about this year and our chances to win the super bowl, than how y’all want to screw the team up in the offseason….because we have a real good shot this year…really good. Focus on the positives. And by the way guys….I live in Dallas and I work in a bar and trust me watching the cowboys lose was just as much fun as you could imagine it would be. Llts of wounded angry fans sitting in disbelief ….it was pretty awesome….:-)
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
The impressive thing for me...
is his ability to not turn the ball over even when his protection is crumbling around him, like it was today. He has been sacked 39 times this year, (most in the NFL) and is tied for 2nd in Int with 5(Tebow has 2 in 8 starts, Bradford has 5 in 9 starts) and has only 6 fumbles/2 lost fumbles. 7 turnovers with his Oline looking completely lost at times this year. In the past we would have been looking at a Alex Smith that was completely lost and a wreck. This year we have a 10-3-division winning-playoff leading-efficient Alex Smith to look forward to every game. Thats what I am most impressed with.
Yep... all good points...
Previous Alex would have had more turnovers than sacks and we would have been looking at Kaepernick right now and much much worse record.
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He's done more than that.
You just won’t acknowledge truth. He has led the team to 3 comebacks this year and made some very crucial passes at crucial times of certain games. For the most part, he’s been pretty clutch
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go birds
Atlanta is are only hope.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 6:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
not the birds you were talking about.
Still it may be our only hope if we fall to Pittsburgh.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 6:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
exactly.
i would say honestly, I’m more worried about the seahawks in seattle..
by itsAteamGAME on Dec 11, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
atlanta
Sorry I was talking about the only possible loss for the Saints is the Falcons. The other white meat.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 7:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i know.
i agree with rooting for ATl, but saying I am more worried of a loss in seattle than home vs. the steelers
by itsAteamGAME on Dec 11, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
But can someone nationally point out the dominance of Andy Lee?
Helluva game today and he did it vs an All-Pro punt returner. PP has zero plays of note in two games against SF.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Drew, it was actually Edwards who was blocking on the 20-yard run by Gore you were talking about.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d824f4b40/RB-Gore-20-yd-run
We were both wrong.
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Yeah...
I know Ginn cracked someone good on one of the runs tho because it happened basically right in front of me
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sure...
why not. I’ll be an eternal optimist!
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
its now or never
Alex needs to finally take it to the next level. Our O line needs to man up. Our offense of coordinator needs to pull the rabbit from the hat.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 6:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If we cant beat AZ on the road how will we beat the packers
by Toluca_Niner_JR on Dec 11, 2011 6:04 PM PST reply actions
One has nothing to do with the other
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
If we can't beat Miami in the preseason how do we beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl
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by rise_stand_resist on Dec 11, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Red Zone....Lets Help Harbaugh & Roman Out
Every One sick and tired of the team not being able to score T/D’s in the Red Zone and
In case you have not recognized it yet…the team has serious issues not being able to score T/D(s) in every quarter except for the 3rd.
The simply dont score T/D(s) in the 1st-2nd-4th quarters for some odd reason.
So lets help them….Give Us YOUR OPINION on how the 9ers may possibly cure these issues and I know Coach is reading your response tonight!
i like your attitude.
Help……
Play calling. Need to be more creative. Mix it up. Pass in running situations, run in passing situations. More play-action. Stunt blocks. Quick slants. Pass to our running backs. Get VD in the game. Crab has hands, give him a shot at it.
I have no idea, somebody that is able to go over the game in detail should be able to come up with something. Help. This can save our season. We can’t lose another game (unless Saints lose) and expect to win.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 6:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just want to make a point to anyone who thinks this proves the 49ers can't hang with either the Packers or Saints
Over their last 6 games the Cards have actually been playing really well on defense. They’ve gone 5-1 and are only giving up 17.5 points per game. If you take away the two games the 49ers played them during that stretch, they’re allowing only 15.8 points per game. Meanwhile the Saints have given up 21.3 points per game over their last 6 games while the Packers have given up 22.2 points per game in their last 6.
In other words as tough as this loss was, and the offense did look pretty bad at times, the Cards defense has been playing very well of late and have been tougher to score on than both the Saints and Packers. The 21 points the 49ers have averaged in their two games against the Cards are over 5 points more per game then they’ve allowed in their other 4 games. I’m not trying to make any excuses for the 49ers offense, just trying to put it into perspective.
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the ravens didnt have you know who and we got beated badly
by Aazoba Yuzuki on Dec 11, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
they weren't beaten badly
two calls (that shouldn’t have been called) were the difference in the Ravens game
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 11, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
And guess who the Coach is from who played a great defensive scheme against us today?
That’s right. Whisenhut came from Pitt, and the defensive scheme looks very similar to the Steelers. Guess who were playing next? Hope Harbaugh designs something that can deal with the complicated blitz scheme the Steelers are famous for! IMO it started with the O-line, play calling, and ended with the once again exposure of a less than top rated QB. As much as it seems they want to open it up, it seems that can’t, ugh. Back to given Gore the ball and throwing short passing routes, and hoping the Defense continues to play like Superman. Out.
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by skeezerweezer on Dec 11, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Not really
There’s not many quarterbacks in the league that would have survived with the way the offensive line played.
that is always
a poor excuse for poor QB play. The niners were one drive away from winning this game DESPITE their O LINE. One drive. Even Romo could have contributed SOME points to this game as a QB…He may have thrown a costly pick, but he would have given us a shot, unlike AS, who was impotent at QB.
romo?
Did u just say tomorrow could have given us a shot? Are u feeling OK? I wouldn’t trust tomorrow with my game of madden
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
one decent game
Of good on-line play and wide open recievers catching the ball….Ii think that’s what u meant
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
What an ugly offensive game to watch...
In the 2nd half where the Niners offense was like a dump truck going nowhere, there should’ve been some no-huddle mixed in. The O-Line was getting destroyed like it did versus the Ravens. The no-huddle would’ve forced the Cardinals D to play their base defence and not have those elaborate ‘Radar’ blitzes.
Red Zone offense needs to be fixed up. Big time. This year the play between the 20’s has been much improved over last year. But last year’s red zone offense seemed more efficient. How wacky this world rolls…
by sj_sharkie12boy on Dec 11, 2011 6:13 PM PST reply actions
A.Smith
go call on Tebow and maybe a miracle is waiting for you afterwards
I think harbaugh was trying to see if they could score a lot of points through the air
The answer was an emphatic “no”, at least not yet . Smith was bound to have a poor game at some point and it’s just as well it was now when the playoff berth is assured. If Gore was dinged we would have seen more of Hunter and Dixon if the plan was to run it as much as normal. What concerns me is the Offense has been on a downward trajectory for a while now and the play calling in the red-zone needs to be much less constipated and Vanilla.
we need that bye
if we get that bye we will play the divisional at home, we can beat anyone at home, then it will leave us in the championship game against the packers (maybe) then the superbowl. but if the packers loose in the divisional round we can play th championship game at home
we need the second seed
by Toluca_Niner_JR on Dec 11, 2011 6:22 PM PST reply actions
I think we still get the bye
Even we lose to the Steelers I see the Falcons beating the Saints, just a feeling.
Falcons - Saints
They tend to win in the others stadium so you’re feeling makes sense.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
and don't overlook the Panthers
maybe they can sneak one against the Saints, with divisional games, you can never be sure
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 11, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
As we were reminded today.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
hope
Hope your feeling is right. I live in Saints territory and have the opposite feeling. That was the only game I attended (pre season) and it was hard to watch.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 7:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Except defensively
Niners’ starting D did not allow Brees one first down. Of course that was only pre-season, which is always pointed out except when people make the opposite argument about the Saints’ D shutting down our offense.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Question regarind Alex Smith's height
I know he’s listed at 6’4", but my friend who’s 6’2" said that Alex is not any taller than he is when he met him in person. Is Alex a true 6’4" or is it 6’4" with shoes on?
Playoffs
For anyone lazily choosing to use any one game as an example of why SF “can not” “will not” defeat GB or NO in the playoffs, you should remind yourself that no future event is so easily predictable in the present. And that such weak arguments could be turned around into “there’s no way that a NO team that lost to the Rams can defeat the Niners.”
One should also refresh their memories:
2007: No none can beat the Patriots. GB@DAL will be the NFC Championship game.
2008: NYG are unstoppable in the NFC. AZ won’t win one playoff game.
2009: Dallas is the most dangerous NFC team. No way that NO goes to Super Bowl after playing so poorly in December.
2010: ATL looks unstoppable at home. NE will win the SB. Saints will blowout Seattle.
What happens in December stays in December. January is whole new beast with a completely clean slate.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Dec 11, 2011 6:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think it's more of a "If we don't fix our offense we won't beat these guys" sentiment
We’re not gonna beat Green Bay or New Orleans only kicking field goals.
by runningblack on Dec 11, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
no no no
we make a run and win the SB with the co-MVP duo of Akers and Lee
it has been foretold by the ancients!
How awesome if Lee won MVP?
He was awesome today. It’ll get lost in the loss but he was tremendous in controlling field position.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
That's obvious
But they’re not going to win playing the type of defense they do, especially the way that NO plays on the road on grass. Those type of statements can be made about all teams.
Nov 24: 49ers' 8 game win streak ends. Winning next 8 = Super Bowl champs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The Cardinals imposed their will
The Niners didn’t make plays. The Cardinals did. We got punked on the playground today. One team played like they intended to win. One team didn’t. As simple as that.
Whats the difference between a field goal and a touchdown?
Four points.
I would be surprised if Harbaugh didn't try to develop a passing game.
He needs to know exactly what to expect out of his passing game when playoffs happen.
"Hey look over there. Isn't that John Candy?"
kaepernick played, what, a series in a 48-3 win as his only nfl action and people are saying to ALREADY DRAFT THE NEXT FRANCHISE QB?
IS THIS A FFFFFFFFF JOKE!?!?!?!?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 11, 2011 6:44 PM PST reply actions
No
this is Niners Nation!
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 11, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i find it funny im getting called a troll for criticizing smith, but then kaepernick plays a series in the NFL and people are already saying to draft another franchise QB
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 11, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Now I understand where you’re coming from. If you don’t love Alex Smith, you’re a troll, an idiot, or a combination of both.
cant tell if youre being sarcastic, but in the postgame thread almost everyone was defending smith
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 11, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Not being sarcastic. I was called an idiot and moron for criticizing Smith’s happy feet and the fact that Skelton outplayed him. Considering the fact that the 49ers D > Cardinals D. 49ers have a pretty mean pass rush as well.
we have a weak secondary
Everyone knows this
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
You were a troll
For your highly sarcastic schtick, which was also very very annoying.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 11, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, the sarcasm came from seeing preposterous threads and comments, like comparing smith to brady and rodgers and montana, and people completely turning a blind eye to any kind of criticism because the team was 4-1 or 5-1 so of course alex had to be playing well
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 11, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
reactions
People on most blogs are fairly reactionary. It’s all in the moment. Are you surprised people are jumping on alternatives?
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
yes. see above.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 11, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Kaepernick is a project
He isn’t starting anytime soon and honestly don’t see him being very successful at the NFL level.
of course he isn't ready
but AS’s play is so appalling and uninspiring sometimes that people don’t really care that he looked like a JUCO QB in the preseason.
It has to be the playcalling
Because before this year, Alex was one of the highest rated QB’s in the red zone, and now we have we witnessed today, and have been witnessing for most of the season. Also, Ginn (and the other receivers) need to make play for Alex. One example is that great 40-50 yard throw Alex had while getting hit, that if Ginn actually looked for the ball, would have been a TD
I just wish it wasn't the Cardinals
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this team seems to become a pass first team lately
that isn’t good, particularly with the way the O Line is playing and having Alex Smith at QB, who can play ok, but certainly has his limitations.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2011 6:53 PM PST reply actions
why is it bad to be pass first? according to people on here, he could be a pro bowler, is extremely efficient, and could keep up with rodgers or brees in a shootout.
IMO we SHOULD be pass first
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 11, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
I don't...
I think we should be balanced… run just as much as we pass and pass just as much as we run…
Doing them at the right time is what is key to success.
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it'd be nice, but we're not built that way
I’m not a Smith Lover by any means. He’s OK, but isn’t going to out pass any of the big names. This team is built for controlling the clock with the run game and playing great defense and using field position to our advantage. Smith can play in that type of system. Anything else and he is questionable, unless he’s getting all day to pass, but anyone can be good with all day and that’s not gonna happen with our O line.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
also, we just don’t have the vertical weapons to stretch the field. Williams has speed but disappears at times, and Ginn has speed, but isn’t that good a route runner. Shit, today he had an easy TD and wasn’t even looking for the ball. there’s something wrong with him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
agree
We should be a pass first team, however we need to tweak the play calling and need a few better route runners. A better QB play would hurt. Alex can do it, I just don’t understand what his problem is. Passes are thrown too high more than I would like. The O-line needs to up their game to give him time. Need more quick passes over the middle.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 7:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
nether will do!
Alex smith will not and can not bring us back to the promise land! and Kaepernick wont be that much better either !they need draft some one or find a qb in free agency
yes,
continue to search for possible answers at the position. Through FA is best, since we have a defense that is championship worthy…
You guys deserve McNabb. just like Fitzgerald forced the Cards to get Kolb so he gets what he deserves.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
now, now
They have a right to be disappointed in Alex. I just think are needs are better served in other areas. QB is a hit or miss. We may be able to pick up a Je in the middle rounds.( take a few years to develop though). What ever happened to Davis? I thought he showed some promise. To Alex’s defense, we are hurting at the wide receiver position and our O-line needs to give him more time.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 7:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The only way for the 49ers to improve
Isn’t at the quarterback position, it’s at the offensive line.
by Rocky632 on Dec 11, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Could you say that again and louder
because I couldn’t agree with you more! Until the OL is fixed – no QB will be able to function effectively.
it should be a no. 1 priority,
but to say NO QB could be effective, or more effective than Alexis Smith, is simply not true. And we’ve been trying to fix the O Line for like 7 years now.
so we should stop trying?
Oline and wideouts, a deep threat, someone who can take the top off a defense. We have too many other needs to be playing hit or miss at qb
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
oline
and our o line isnt that bad alex jus doent know how to improvise and make plays and will not get rid of the ball fast, how much time does he need?tell me a pro bowl oline in football right now! alex needs to learn how to get rid of the ball against the blitz.
Injury news?
What happened to Staley? I had people round to watch the game and I missed it with their non-football conversation?
Head injury
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by Badly Browned on Dec 11, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
I read he was being examined for a concussion
Has it been confirmed that it was?
Staley
I don’t believe anything official was said other than head injury. But I saw concussion somewhere. I’ll see what I can find.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure it probably is
From what I read though was they were testing him for a concussion and since the sat him out the entire game one just hopes it’s precautionary and the 49ers just don’t want to make any mistakes with a head injury.
The 49ers should be licking their chops
seeing as Big Ben and Pouncey might not play. Plus, Woodley is sure to be out.
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I doubt it.
He will get a big ass fine, though.
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Maybe if he wasn't already on a first-name basis with the commish...
…but as a repeat offender? On the NFL Network? Could be tough for Goodell NOT to suspend him.
It’s been over 16 games since he’s done anything Goodell doesn’t like (which includes any form of tackling or contact of an offensive player), so I still doubt he gets anything more than a large fine. However, if he is suspended, it will only hurt Goodell in the long run, as the backlash would be huge.
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Don't think Goodell gives a damn about what anyone thinks...
…if he did, the lockout would have ended long before it actually did. He has more of a position of strength than David Stern does.
You’re right, Harrison could get let off the hook…but it would have been a lot easier call if he hadn’t gone helmet-to-facemask and given a QB a concussion.
Yeah, he hit him in the head, but he also thought that McCoy was a runner and most likely thought that he had passed the LoS, where that hit would be legal. It was a bang-bang play and those cannot and will not ever be stopped, despite Goodell and his pussy rules.
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Steelers decimated by injuries
and soon a suspension to Harrison
I apologize if this was already mentioned but :
Was Braylon inactive or something or was he so bad that he was benched?
I looked through every single boxscore out there and couldn’t find him anywhere.
I didn’t get to see the game so if someone could tell me what happened to him being “utilized more”, I’d be most appreciative. Thanks.
Edwards had two throws his way
One was a poor throw by Smith on a first and goal and one Edwards wasn’t even looking. His biggest contribution was a block on a nice run by Frank Gore.
One thing Braylon has always been good at, is his downfield run-blocking...
But man..That is just POOR on both the Coaching Staff and Alex.
He cannot get into synch with this offense if he’s not even involved.
He was DEAD-ON with his statement ‘cause frankly, he didn’t really play.
He was active and played 11 snaps.
Had 2 targets but no catches. One was in the endzone that was behind him and only got one hand on it. The other hit him in the back.
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Crabtree and Edwards frustrated:
Crabtree:
“I have no words, really. I saw a lot of opportunities. I really don’t want to say anything negative. You know what I’m saying? But it’s hard.”
“When you’re trying to be the man, and you’re trying to do what you’re supposed to do, trying to grind it out, trying to be the receiver, and you don’t get the ball. It’s hard. It’s disappointing. I don’t know, man. I don’t need to be talking right now.”
Edwards:
“Talk to them,” Edwards said of the other receivers. “They played. I didn’t.”
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I don't blame them.
I’m hoping they bring it up with the coaching staff about play calling, particularly in the redzone.
Kinda like what VD did earlier this year. He told the coaches he wanted the ball more and that’s exactly what happened… for 1 game.
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Yes only one game
Look at the Patriots they get the ball to their tight ends why can’t VD and Walker be like Gronkowski and Hernandez in New England? We have a better tandem then Dallas and yet Jason Witten gets the ball a lot more than VD!
How does braylon deserve any more playing time than he got? KW should be the one complaining. And crab? sorry stfu crabs. he has gotten tons of targets and catches recently.
maybe those selfish guys should ask why Gore (who is better than both of them put together) didn’t get many touches.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Totally selfish.
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I'm not saying Braylon deserves any more PT.
I’m saying Braylon deserves PT, PERIOD. LOL.
And he didn’t really get any this game, basically. He was right in his comment.
And only 2 Passes thrown his way….. tsk tsk
I don't know, but it wasn't enough Williams and way too much Ginn.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
Too much Ginn is one thing we can probably all agree on.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Ginn and Williams both had 6 targets.
Too much Ginn, especially in the endzone.
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2 passes in 11 snaps is not enough…lol
You are talking like every play should go to braylon.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
How about 11 Snaps for the ENTIRE GAME?
That’s considered “enough” for you?
C’mon, man..
Yeah I just saw that in another 49ers forum just now.
Only 11 snaps he was allowed to play??? Really, Harbaugh?
Only 2 Passes thrown his way? Really, Alex?
How is he supposed to get involved in the offense and get more in-synch with Alex if he plays so little and gets so few “looks” on the field?
Damn.
Because when he’s on the field he looks like he doesn’t care.
That is a bit of an exaggeration, but he doesn’t look right.
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It certainly is an exaggeration 'cause you're ASSUMING TOO MUCH from how a person is on the field
He always looks lackadaisical even last year when was with the Jets….and he had over 900+ yards receiving.
You can’t judge someone on appearance alone.
What?
I can’t judge him when he is on the field? Then how am I too judge him?
Braylon has not helped the team when he has had the opportunity. Sure he’s been injured and hasn’t played much, but he hasn’t earned much more than he’s getting at this point.
You should be more concerned with why Vernon isn’t getting more targets or Kyle Williams isn’t taking more of Ginn’s snaps.
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Edwards has been hurt most of the year
Supposedly was at 100 percent today for the first time in a while has dealt with the knee injury and a shoulder injury most recently.
Excuse me but I WANT BRAYLON TO GET A FAIR OPPORTUNITY here.
I know this is all about “What have you done for me lately?” but let’s be realistic here.
This team needs all the Offensive Weapons it can get and come playoff-time, we’ll need ALL of our weapons to be working like a well-oiled machine. And Braylon SHOULD be a cog in that machine…..but can’t be if he hasn’t been integrated into it.
If he's not 100 percent
It’s kind of difficult to find success
True but now he is. (or at least he says he is).
Why not start getting him in synch with AS with 4 games(now 3) remaining?
maybe
BE is dogging it…I don’t know. But he has been, throughout his career, an above average play making WR. He comes to the Niners and suddenly he isn’t productive. It’s injuries and AS, but I don’t doubt he has developed an attitude at the realization he picked the wrong team in the offseason. AS has the most gifted TE’s in football and can’t find him…
Was he "dogging it" last year, too?
Give me a break. I saw him with my own eyes and what he did while on the Jets…
Braylon does not “DOG IT”.
900+ Receiving Yards is NOT “Dogging It”.
You must be basing your opinion of Braylon on your Madden games because nothing else he’s done backs it up.
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I'm basing my opinion on actually SEEING Braylon last year and what he did on the JETS.
I’m guess you never even knew Braylon was on the Jets last year anyway which is why you’re making a comment like that.
Go check out his stats since you obviously don’t believe a word I’m saying here….
Ha
Alright man. He was pretty solid for the Jets last year. Nothing spectacular.
Though the 9ers could use him like that. He hasn’t played anywhere like that this year, even before he was injured.
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Well the thing is this, Virginia :
With this team, all he needs is to be SOLID.
The problem is that he can’t be solid if he’s not getting enough “burn” on offense.
He needs to be thrown the ball more than just 2 times a game, man.
I think that’s overstating the obvious, wouldn’t you say? lol.
No he doesn't
Not when he has a number of drops and guys like Crabtree and Williams have shown they can make plays when given opportunities.
I don’t understand your fascination with Braylon, but it isn’t even close to the offense’s biggest problem. Williams deserve more opportunities, Braylon just needs to take advantage of his when presented.
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That's not really fair then.
‘Cause you’re really depriving your offense of adding one more weapon to its arsenal.
I mean the other players like Williams, Crabs, and company got their opportunity to get in synch with the QB and the Offensive Playbook; Braylon was a late arrival and didn’t have any real training-camp or any real chance at developing any sort of chemistry with AS, especially when he got injured.
I think he deserves a fair(and legitimate) shot and none of this “throw him a bone” stuff you’re suggesting.
You still haven’t told me how Braylon has earned all this extra focus you keep proposing. How? His stats in NY have nothing to do with how Harbaugh thinks.
Whoever is playing well and working the hardest is going to get the most looks. Don’t you think the fact he only got 12 snaps today might say something about that?
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Yeah it does say something....
It says that either Jim doesn’t believe Braylon is 100% just yet(which might be the case, now that I think about it) or that he’s an idiot(which I doubt).
Okay
So now you are saying Braylon isn’t 100% because Harbaugh didn’t play him much, but still advocate that he needs more looks…does not compute.
I think my theory is more likely, but still just speculation.
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That he is losing playing time to more worthy WRs
At least that is part of it. Braylon has to show he deserves more opportunities. The play today where Alex hit him in the back today doesn’t help with that.
Although we can’t be 100% who was more at fault.
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Well considering that Alex was missing OTHER WRs
and was pretty much off-target all day…I think we can get some idea of whose more at fault…Today, anyway. lol.
Yeah, lets get the pitchforks and lynch him…. that POS Alex Smith!!!
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lol.
I’m not going to join in.
He helped get us this far…
No man...
Don’t you know… he’s the worst QB to evar play da gamez!!
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Hmm....You know what?
I see what you did there. :)
OHHH
WAY WORSE… Ponder is the best QB EVARRRR!!!!!!
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Mark Sanchez > Alex Smith then. lol.
That’s basically what you’re saying.
I would take Sanchez over
Smith…I think they are similarly mediocre, but I think Sanchez is better now while having more upside…
Why do you have to inject your nonsense into every conversation
We weren’t talking about Alex at all…and then you have to come in.
You are ridiculous.
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That's okay, Virginia.
We both know Alex can get it done.
The Playcalling has to improve, though.
That was just p*ss-poor today.
I'm brought up Smith
because the QB, for this team, is the difference between a SB contender and a fraud in my opinion. The rest of this WR talk or whatever else pales in comparison.
I hope the Niners win the SB
So you can eat a heaping, steaming pile of doo doo
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by Drew Kerr on Dec 11, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And
Once again our conversation was not about a SB or about Alex…
The rest of this WR talk pales in comparison? Fine, don’t join the conversation…you aren’t obligated to jump in the middle of someone else’s discussion with irrelevant information.
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i think just the oppositewe
We need better weapons on the outside to be a super bowl contender, our qb play has been fine. Although I’m sure you would rather have a qb force it and try and make a play (which leads to turnovers by the way), I would rather not and have a qb who takes what the d is giving us like Alex has been. Its why we are 10-3 and not 8-5, or5-8 for that matter. Vick has a laser for an arm and tons of weapons…where has that got him
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
That is true
yet at the time the 49ers weren’t throwing the ball anywhere as often, no receivers were getting many receptions.
by Rocky632 on Dec 11, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
when did I say I think he's dogging it?
I like Braylon’s game. My hunch is that he’s soured on the fact that that AS sucks, and he’s costing himself money in the future by choosing the niners this year.
"choosing"
Remains to be seen how much of a choice he really had.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
He really didn't. He priced himself out of everyone's range and then the whole "bar incident" happened....
….and that’s when he ended up with no one really wanting to have anything to do with him, probably because most GMs were unsure about his Legal situation.
Fortunately, he was able to resolve all of it but that’s pretty much why he is here.
WOW... just WOW...
So he is dropping passes on purpose cause that wont cost himself money either….
His agent will just use the ol’ “Alex Smith Sucks” argument to get him a paycheck…
Delusion is a dangerous thing.
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no
His tense is a little screwy but he’s saying Edwards thinks he cost himself money by choosing the 49ers. He’s not saying he’s purposely dropping balls.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Dude hasn't even watched the game and he is trying to kill Alex because braylon stank
Only 2 Passes thrown his way? Really, Alex?
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
He played only 11 snaps, cyber. ELEVEN..the WHOLE GAME!
He only had 2 passes thrown his way…..TWO!!
How can you say He stunk when he didn’t even get a fair chance to either “be good” or “stink”(as you so eloquently put it)?
how is him getting 11 snaps Alex’s fault?
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
It's not Alex's fault if you paid attention to my original quote.....
I was blaming both Harbaugh for the 11 snaps and Alex for the 2 passes thrown(although, to be fair, the Coaching could also be blamed for that, too)
Which makes your point ridiculous
Edwards is clearly not 100 percent even if it was reported that he is.
and even if he's healthy
the first pass they threw him hit him on the arse, he’s clearly not up to speed, I’m not writing him off but I’d rather see a player who has had more practice time on the field
But tell me this, though....
You said you’d rather see a player who has had more practice time on the field.
When the hell is Braylon going to get that “practice time”?
Never?
Okay okay fine!
Contrary to some here, I DO have a brain.
Really. And It’s definitely possible that Jim did not like how Braylon looked out there still(had nothing to do with performance but more to do with him looking still injured) and kept him out.
and Braylon is ticked off about that, I guess.
So you want them to keep all that inside and pretend like it doesn't bother them?
And Crabtree can whine all he wants since he’s our #1 receiver.
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Yeah I know what you're saying...
They should’ve went with the “No Comment” route.
But still….Braylon actually went there(kind of) while Crabtree just exploded.
Frankly, I still don’t blame either of them for being p*ssed.
I mean….Against this CARDINAL TEAM whose secondary isn’t anything special, you don’t utilize either Crabs OR Braylon more than a handful of times(or in braylon’s case, not even)?
Harbs better draw up a better gameplan next week and involve the WEAPONS that he has.
Rex Ryan has a nice phrase in his 46 coaching manual, ‘in this defense we do not consider the receiver to be open if the quarterback cannot deliver him the ball’
I actually think saying "no comment" is worse.
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never criticise your team in public
It hurts unity, makes real communication amongst teammates less likely and is ultimately a stupid thing to do. Do you really think other teams’ GMs are looking at stuff like that and thinking, ‘I really like the way he complains all the time, I’ll offer more money’
No, of course not, keep it in house, the only people that will be annoyed are teh hometown fans and if they really root for the team they should accept the reduction in post game quotes as a tradeoff for a more unified team that is more likely to win. Look at the Pats, Pack Saints etc, do they ever bitch? Brady got chewed out on the sidelines today and in the press conference was all apologies and ’we’re just trying to get better each week’ style cliches.
by Karl Cuba on Dec 11, 2011 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
True but don't they want Braylon at least to have a SHOT at helping them on offense in the playoffs?
Can’t do that if he isn’t getting the looks.
2 Passes his way won’t cut it.
Crabs would fit in on this blog lol. 1 bad game and he is throwing everyone under the bus.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like Harbaugh's honeymoon with the team is over.
Matter of fact, I fear he is beginning to lose them.
What did Harbaugh say before the season about making wide receivers relevant again?
I didn't like the offensive playcalling
There are things you can do to mitigate bad pass protection, screens, waggles, roll-outs and most obviously, running the damn ball. Why not more carries for Gore, that seemed weird to me.
In the first quarter
It appeared that Gore was banged up though the 40 yard run showed other wise along with another long run he had. Hunter needed to be involved more if Gore was actually banged up. Should have used VD, Crabtree and Hunter on screens with the Cardinals aggressiveness.
So are they going to haveto redraft on the O-Line?
Because I’m having serious reservations about 3 guys along the line all over again.
Kind of hard to gauge to O-line imo
It’s kind of like how in pre-season, they alternated from being the worse looking O-line to one of the best looking o-lines game to game.
The first few games the o-line looked god-awful, then Chilo got benched and they looked pretty good, now they look pretty awful again.
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by Badly Browned on Dec 11, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Anthony Davis has a sprained ankle
Not 100 percent.
Adam Snyder also has a strained hamstring, not 100 percent either.
Don’t need to redo the offensive line need them healthy.
Hmm, true
Forgot about those injuries
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by Badly Browned on Dec 11, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sacks, Sacks and more Sacks....
I believe that Alex is so scarred to turn the ball over since obviously JH has put such an emphasis on ball security that hes scarred to try to thread some throws or overthinks his throws to much which is why he takes so long in his reads. I know our line isnt perfect but i do think that JH put to much pressure on Alex to not make stupid mistakes by forcing something that isnt there that hes over caucious. Take the good with the bad, just my observation on this sack party we’ve been experiencing!!!
by Frisco_Kid on Dec 11, 2011 7:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Totally agreed with this. His INT’s are down, but so are the big plays. If he’s waiting for the receivers to be wide open, then there won’t many opportunities, hence his yardage are way down. This is also why Tim Tebow has the stats he does. Both of them are playing turnover-free football.
How many sacks are due to the offensive line collapsing and how many are due to Alex holding on to the ball too long? How many are due to the play calling? If the opposing team is blitzing, why not call more screen passes? Did they call any in this game?
Very true
How bad do you think these boards would explode if Alex was trying to force passes instead of holding on to the ball?
exactly why AS
needs to go…eventually….he holds the ball too long cause he CAN’T make the tough throws over the middle or down the field
If he is holding the ball too long, that could be a direct result of WR's not getting open.
And if Harbaugh is preaching efficiency over dumb ass Tony Romo type moves, then it makes sense and has been working just fine.
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I disagree
Don’t believe Smith is scared too turn the ball over he makes the smart play with the ball in most situations. His problem today is he had a couple of times where he held onto the ball when he should have dumped it off.
His best throw of the day was to Ted Ginn and it should have been a TD, yet Ginn lost it for some inexplicable reason. What truly was the issue was not making adjustments to the pressure of the Cardinals and not calling more screens or slants too get the ball out of Smith’s hand quickly.
Yes. Slants are mysteriously absent from the games. and Alex throws those pretty well.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Crabtree and Williams have shown they
can get some good yardage on slants
the receiving corp.
Is one of our biggest area of concern. Along with O-line and corners. QB play is also up there.
by 49RFAN on Dec 11, 2011 8:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think
they need to move Alex around a little more, get him on rollouts so that the defense doesn’t know where he is gonna be and they can’t tee off on the blitz as much. Its much harder to bat down passes on the edge as well. Make the defensive line think about where he is gonna be instead of always being in the pocket. Get some easy receptions out there on the short edge and let the receiver make some plays. We seem to be making it too hard sometimes instead of just taking an easy play every now and then.
All that being said…this was one game. Next week things will be back to normal and we can all overexaggerate about how well we are playing instead of overexaggerating about how bad they looked today.
Using the ESPN Playoff Machine
if the Niners win out, and the Packers lose out (even with the Saints winning out)
1. Niners
2. Packers
3. Saints
any given Sunday!
The only way the Packers lose out is
If Rodgers sustains an injury
I don't wish for things like that but...
if it happened perhaps its a tweaked ankle, rest him for the playoffs?
Fixed
The only way the Packers loseoutis
If Rodgers sustains an injury
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On another note, what is the deal with Lord Fangio?
Aldon Smith is playing the run well when he has had to. he gets much better pressure than Haralson. his delayed blitzes are freakin horric and his I can get to you with 4 is freaking ridiculous. Why lineup in a freakin’ 3-4 vs a 4 wide? THIS is why I say the Packers would roll our ass off the field if we faced them in the playoffs. They hardly ever have less than 3wr on the field and Fangio’s dumb ass is gonna try it out with the 3-4. We’d get crushed by the Saints or Packers, because their QB can sit in 3 wide and 4 wide all game.
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Agree.
I agree that Aldon is playing the run pretty well, but I don’t have that big of a problem with Haralson starting over him. He’s been pretty solid.
But I definitely agree with the blitzing. So many times all I see is the opposing QB sit in the pocket for 5 seconds. What happened to all those exotic blitzes I heard he’s all about? Was he the same at Stanford?
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We definately missed the LB blitz
without Willis in there. I think all of those runs Skelton had yesterday become obsolete if we had him playing.
The Packers are a completely different
Animal than the CArdinals.
AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's all freeeaakkk out!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s burn this whole team starting with ALEX SMITH… top to bottom, FO to Coaching……
And start over!!!!
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Indeed lol
it is amazing how spoiled we have gotten over the course of the season….almost all of us would have been happy at the beginning of the season if we ended up with 10 wins and the division, and people act like the season is lost and we have nothing to look forward to
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 11, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
LOL it does sound like some are doing that
I love our FO and coaches. I love our defense. And our offense will be ok and much improved next year with a full year under our coaches guidance. And yes, I am happy this year because last year is still too fresh in my mind.
This always happens after a loss
I thought you became immune to that since it was a regular occurrence in the past seasons.
I was angry...
Then I realized we are still 10-3 still could get the second seed. Heck if you told me at the beginning of the season that we would be 10-3 at this point. I would be excited. So that’s where I need to keep my mind.. today was a set back, hopefully we can take some positives from the game.
by northwestniner on Dec 11, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
You never get immune or used to it if you bleed red and gold
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WHY ISN"T WILLIAMS STARTING??????
If he isn’t great at routes what’s the prob, Ginn isn’t either and after nto finding the ball when he shoul dhave been looking for it long before he did, I’d bench his ass.
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He had a David Tyree moment today haha
Bubble gum on the side of the helmet
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Ginn has never been a very good receiver
Not sure what the issue is. If the 49ers aren’t going to use him at least get Walker involved or VD, or Gore and Hunter.
Ginn is worth keeping around for ST's...
Def worth it
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He is decent at WR
he had a 75 TD called back against the Ravens if that have stood, what then… not an elite WR but definitely worth a roster spot
I agree
I may not have at the beginning of the year, but he has at the least outplayed Braylon.
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I think hes great for about 10 plays on offense..
Anything more then that and he gets exposed. Give him snaps on the end-arounds, bring him in on the flies….but when we need the tough yards there is no way he is more reliable then Crabs and Williams.
as a starting receiver
he’s a very good kick returner
Anyone else think the photo at the top of the article should be a Caption This?
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I've looked and
I still can’t see your keys, are you sure that’s where you left them?
Update on Staley
From the most recent news from Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. It’s still uncertain if he sustained a concussion or not. Though it did mention he may be done for the year.
season?
Where? Not seeing that anywhere.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
The question on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area
Was Can the 49ers go deep in the Playoffs Without Staley? Maybe it was just a way to get comments. Though if it’s a concussion don’t see the 49ers rushing him back.
Season?
Where did you hear this?
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Haven't read the comments but I will put in my two cents
Not enough Gore. Guy looked great and yet saw little action. We still need to win games.
Bad game from Alex Smith. No excuses. He played poorly and needs to spend the night with Harbaugh to find out what’s up.
Defense looked like they were lacking discipline.
Cards defense stepped it up and may be trouble in the future.
Redzone is a problem in every area.
Larry Fitzgerald is a very good football player.
defense looked like they were missing Willis
Grant didn’t get enough depth on the Doucet TD, though the safeties were awful on that play. He missed three or four tackles against the run and failed to diagnose the screen all day. I doubt it’s a coincidence that without Willis Bowman had his most anonymous game of the year.
Grant got more tackles
this shows me that they were avoiding Bowman. I think the leadership was the missing issue with Willis gone. No way I blame this loss solely on that though. We are still a top defense.
Grant had 10 tackles and a pass defended
Next closest 49er had five. Grant was solid, though shouldn’t have expected him too replace what Willis is.
positives
Boone is a good replacement
Love watching Crabtree grow up.
Defense can still play well without their best player
Frank Gore
Rushing defense streaks stay alive
I still think that part of why Alex looked bad was just too many defenders in his face with their hands up. Most likely his visibility and passing lanes were severely limited. Plus he had to be careful because the Cardinals showed they could get their hands out and tip his passes. The O-line didn’t seems to be able to maintain any sort of lanes today and the bunched offense just created a wall of red in front of Alex.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Dec 11, 2011 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Where do you think the 49ers will be (or belong) in the power rankings now?
Below the Cardinals?
Let’s play for draft position!
Anyone have the postgame locker room speech?
would be interesting to see what Harbaugh had to say after a loss…
losses
I don’t think they air the losses.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
I hope not - let them be
I am already cringing thinking of the stuuupid questions the media will be asking JH
Greg Roman is not as impressive as I would like him to be.
I am still stuck on our last drive…. how can we NOT get 1 yard with two tries? Ugh!
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execution versus play-calling
Hard to tell what is at fault without knowing the play-calling. But I’m gonna take a look back at the game at some point this week to see what’s up.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
exactly what I was about to say/type….its tough criticizing play calling because if more of those plays work we arent talking about it…
that's the drawback to how we sit as fans
Virtually all criticisms and even praise have to be taken with a grain of salt give our lack of all the details.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
we are definitely ignorant
because we can’t see what the QB sees. This can be fixed if networks choose a more Madden-like view, or at least give viewers the option
coaches film
Wish the NFL would release more of the coaches film after the fact. That could be so helpful.
While the XFL was criticized for a lot of things (rightfully so), they did a great job with some interesting tv concepts.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But that Andy Lee pass was with precision...
I was LMAO at the game when he threw a strike to Goodwin… it was awesome for a second until it wasn’t.
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Goodwin
And Goodwin with great eyes on the ball all the way into his hands.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
That was really cool.
That’s one thing I do love about this Niners team opposed to the past couple years…. is that every now and again, we pull off some crazy entertaining play like that… even ran a flea flicker recently (cant remember which game, maybe the last one)
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At the game, I didn't watch on tv so I didnt know...
But the crowd erupted like it was a TD… and the ref even signaled it as one… When exactly did whizz’s red flag come out?
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my stream F'd up on that play
but judging from people’s reaction here it was very a very close call
the tv didn't show the flag
the whistles made it seem like it was probably just before the snap, there’s going to be a delay as the refs put the whistle in their mouths
See
I didn’t hear a whistle… at all
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there were whistles
I think it was probably the right call but that didn’t stop me booting a chair across the room
The whistle sounded right when the ball was already snapped and Lee had the ball.
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Hmm… it still seemed pretty weak and I was pissed lol
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It was weak. So stupid that they blew the whistle when Lee already had the ball in his hands.
I really hope all of them are fired.
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Couldn't see the flag
But the whistle was after the snap. Unfortunately that doesn’t matter, all that matters is when the flag was thrown and recognized by the referee.
Obviously the flag was thrown before the snap, a bit of a delay before the whistle…Im assuming this is what happened and it wasn’t screwed up so bad that the challenge was actually after the snap.
It was technically the correct procedure.
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Dunno if it actually was thrown before the play tho
that’s the thing
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That is my only issue
People were screaming about the whistle after the snap, but it doesn’t even matter.
Like they said above they never actually showed the flag on TV, I’d love to see video of it.
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I asked my brother if he saw it ever and he said no...
I myself didn’t see it ever either,… and you can spot yellow and red flags on the field in person much better than on TV… who knows… its a moot point now anyway.
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Buzzer?
Like a shock collar for the refs or something?
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You know...
I am still so damn happy that the Niners won the NFCW!
Do y’all remember the last time that was, I swear it was 2002 (9 years and before that 1997 (14 years ago))
Still want a SB run with SB win, but in the end I have been so freaking happy with this year, so much to build on, so much potential… can’t complain (too much).
by danknerd49 on Dec 11, 2011 8:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
G-men bout to beat the Boys at home...
Jerry Jones is about to crap himself
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That's how you do it
When you play like you want to win.
Whats the difference between a field goal and a touchdown?
Four points.
Except they;re about to lose now haha
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Still pumped for next Monday!
Will be back in the bay area on Friday night then on Monday going to the game. I’m kinda hoping Big Ben does play since its my only game of the year and I want it to be an intense/good/crazy game.
so like...
77 to Zero would be an awesome game, Niners win of course
I absolutely cant wait
for finals to be over, to be back in much milder temperature and home, and to watch my NINERS!!!
I'm not
Not yet. Too bummed.
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I usually go to almost every home game because my grandpa has season tickets
and this will be my only one this year, so yeah I’m stoked
This Thread is about 57 different kinds of STUPID...
What’s the point to it?
This is what happens when the 49ers — THE 10-3 NFC WEST CHAMPS goingtotheplayoffsforthefirsttimeinforever49ers — they finally just have a BAD GAME? Many of you just LOSE YOUR MINDS?
Which one of you knuckleheads thinks Montana & Young teams never had rough stretches?
Every here about a little something called C – O – M – P – O – S – U – R – E ? Applies to fans as well…
“BOO HOO!” "THE NINERS LOST A GAME!! WAAAAAAHHHHH…!!!
What an embarrassement. Go take off your skirts ladies……
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 8:50 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
So we're like Baskin Robbins.
But with two more flavors.
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Nope, 57...
I unfortunately got sucked in a read the entire thread……
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Kevin Kolb beat us. Should have signed him!!!
58 and 59. You’re welcome. Ever notice 59 looks just as dirty as 69?
by mcwagner on Dec 11, 2011 9:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm surprised
That you’re so surprised.
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Relatively new here...
NO idea it gets this STOOOOOOPID after one relatively insignificant loss…
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Get used to it if you plan on sticking around
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Oh, I won't... Not for this.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I like talkin' football...
This sure as hell ain’t that.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
There’s just a few that are ALWAYS like that win or lose.
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exactly
We lose one game and suddenly the sky is falling….has it really been that long for us, that as soon as we lose everyone wants to burn the house. We are 10-3 people 10 and freaking 3 with the playoffs already clinched. Cmon——go niners ….all the way
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
nobody is pissed at our record
there are simply lots of us that see the niners lacking in important areas that will eventually need to be adequately addressed. This loss helps illuminate some of these flaws, whereas previous victories have obscured these realities for the most part this season. They’ve been apparent to me all along, but sometimes it takes losses for people to recognize them.
No division game should be a considered a shoe-in. I know this. Others should too. I’m not surprised they lost yesterday, and I won’t be surprised if they finish 11-5. So the sky isn’t falling per se, but the team is not a top 5 team…they’re not a top 10 team…and that has been the case all year. Those freaking out seem to think the Niners are head-and-shoulders above the middle of the pack because they have an elite record.
dudew
We are a top team. There is not a team in the NFL that doesn’t have issues, even green bay. They have no d, and no run game. Someone with a real defense can render them one dimensiona, and personally i dont think they have played a good d outside new york thos yearThey just happen to to be scary good throwing it. Same goes for n.o. the are one dimensional, with no defense. Outside of Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and new England, whdo u believe is better than us? We have arguably the best defense in the nfc if not the league. We can run the ball which the packers and saints can’t do near as well. And we have an efficient offense which is far and away better than anything we have put on the field the last decade. Sure we have holes, but nothing that other teams aren’t dealing with. We are good enough to win, especially the nfc. The best teams in the nfc have no balance. Amazingly for once we are the closest thing to it, and I’m willing to bet our defense can stop their offense
by texasniner31 on Dec 12, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cowboys lined up for game-tying FG and made it but NY called TO.
Then the kick got blocked!!!
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BLOCKED BLOCKED!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Man that kicker has ice in his veins
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That was an awesome end to today
"You play to win the playoffs, and we let 'em off the hook!" -Herm Mora Green
That cheered me up a little!
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Packers keep dropping like flies.... their players.
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How long is Jennings out for?
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
MRI tomorrow
McCarthy called it a sprained knee, speculation is torn MCL. Rodgers said after the game that he hoped Jennings would be back for playoffs. All speculation until the MRI is done.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Cool thanks.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
how is Pitt's Oline this year?
Big Ben is tough to take down but he will be less mobile with that ankle issue
Seemed like a lot of people here at NN were expecting our division games to be close as they usually are every year
yet everyone flips out when we lose
Exactly
The ’88 49ers were 6-5 after dropping a 9-3 game to the Raiders at the "Stick. Walsh nearly BENCHED Joe Montana for the remainder of the season.
He didn’t bench Joe and the 49ers won the Super Bowl.
This team is 10-3 and has already clinched the Division and can still be the #2 seed. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE “FLIPPING OUT” TO ME… I don’t get it.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Me too... dont get it at all..
I was heart broken.. but that was just because I was at the game. It’s 10:17 and I’m over it.
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haha I dont get it either
and although I just recently made an account Ive been reading NN for over two years, but then again we havent been good until this year so maybe thats it
Because people are friggin nuts.
Just like in the lead up to the Harbaugh hiring and during the draft. It’s just football and people take it too damn seriously.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
They could LOSE OUT the REST OF THE YEAR...
…and it still would be a WILDLY SUCCESSFUL SEASON.
That would simply change the approach to the offseason, but this has ALREADY been a GREAT YEAR. No matter what.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Well...
It would be wildly successful based on preseason expectations. Expectations are allowed to change when the team performs in a different manner. If the team lost out (hypothetically speaking), I’d say it was a wildly successful 3/4 of a year.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Expectations get out of hand so fast...
The 49ers look to be a good team in a BAD division.
They’ve taken care of the Division and now it’s on to the playoffs. I’ve NO IDEA how they’ll perform against a GB or NO, but I do know this:
They are NOT as bad as today’s loss, and they’ve NEVER been quite as good as their record would indicate. Living and dying based on single games in today’s NFL, just pointless imo…
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
single games
I do agree they are not as bad as today’s loss.
At the same time, while living and dying based on single games may seem pointless to you, people come into the game threads because they are so excited about each individual game. I think people tend to overreact because they are looking game by game and play by play, but I think that’s a form of passion that I have no interesting in squashing. Maybe it is a bit reactionary, but I’ll take it as a sign they care.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
;D
I’ve no desire to squash it either…
Who else would I then be able to call “knuckleheads”?
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
concern
It’s concern that the team rolls into the playoffs and gets slapped around. I don’t think it will happen, but given this performance, I don’t think it is remotely shocking that some people were so displeased. Part of it is that plenty of folks also came into Sunday way too confident about this game.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Arizona really isn't that bad.
Their only loss in the last six games was to us.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
They''re on a roll
And mathematically aren’t totally out of the playoff picture.
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Arizona should have lost by two TDs today...
The game could very well have been over by halftime w/some Red Zone productivity.
Skelton’s lousy. His STATS today LIE!!! Dashon makes a bad play on the 2nd TD throw. Bad tackling on another long gainer to Fitzgerald…
Arizona STINKS.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Their defense is solid.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
meh...
Not garbage but… We MADE them look good today. Or at least we HELPED them look good.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
The crowd should have been out of the game by halftime but they weren't.
And whenever the Cards got on defense, they got super loud.
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What did people think about Alex Boone today?
I thought he looked pretty good when I paid attention to him specifically, but I’m curious to see what other people think.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:16 PM PST reply actions
Without watching any film...
I’d guess that he held his own. When you don’t notice an OLineman, that’s often a GOOD THING.
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
oline
Most of the oline struggled today without even pointing to specific people. I can’t say off the top of my head person X wasn’t noticed because it was a group effort.
by David Fucillo on Dec 11, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Oh... Snyder and Goodwin struggled MIGHTILY.
I could see that.
Certainly it’s a collective effort, but I saw those two guys STANDING OUT from the rest.
But like I’ve said before, that’s an educated GUESS w/out watching film of the game (including an EndZone Camera Angle).
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by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Dec 11, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Boone is definitely a mountain of a human being and plays really physical.
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by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 11, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
He reminds me of Mr. Ed with those teeth
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i only have one question.............
WHERE THE H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS IS BRAYLON EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do we dare entertain the thought
MR. Terrell Owens come on down ur the next contestant …….
Nope
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by Drew Kerr on Dec 11, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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