NFL Considering Suspension For Steelers LB James Harrison
by David Fucillo on Dec 12, 2011 9:00 AM PST
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PrintOne of the under the radar stories to come out yesterday was that the NFL is considering a possible suspension for PIttsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison. He drilled Colt McCoy on a helmet-to-helmet hit that was guaranteed to get him at least a significant fine.
Now Harrison may face the first suspension under this increased enforcement on player safety violations. If the NFL does announce a suspension, that does not guarantee he sits out the 49ers game. There would undoubtedly be an appeal of the suspension and if it operates like many appeals, it would carry over for an undetermined amount of time.
The Steelers have a strong defense even without James Harrison, but it would be a tough loss for the Steelers. They were already without LaMarr Woodley this past week due to a hamstring injury. Woodley is no lock to play against the 49ers, although Jason Worilds filled in quite ably for Woodley. Nontheless, if Harrison and Woodley were both out, that would be 17 sacks on the bench. Given the 49ers struggles against strong pass rushes in recent weeks, that could be a momentum changer.
The NFL will discuss the issue a bit more today, so we likely will hear some sort of news at some point today, even if it is just anonymous sources.
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I said he should be suspended the minute i saw the replay of the hit this dude,n honestly
i couldn’t understand why NFL players voted suh “dirtiest player in the NFL”i mean suh’s no saint either but i honestly think harrison goes out there 2 kill players.If the commish doesn’t suspend him n get it thru his head that this type of hitting is not allowed then one sunday he may hit a player n paralyze him then what?
by Jayubb415rebirth on Dec 12, 2011 9:43 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'll take my win from an injury depleteted Steeler team.
Thought something tells me even Charlie Batch will light us up if we can’t get a consistent pass rush. I also feel that the Steeler D is going to bring it like the Ravens did on Thanksgiving. Alex and the O-line can’t make teams think twice about loading up the box because it works too well. It’s like dialing up the field goal defense on old Sports Talk football on Sega Genesis, automatic sack.
is ben sitting out this game i haven't heard that?
by Jayubb415rebirth on Dec 12, 2011 9:50 AM PST reply actions
If Roethliserger, Woodley, and Harrison are out, that's a HUGE hit to their roster.
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I’d be pretty surprised if Harrison sat Monday. He’d likely appeal this suspension and probably buy a week or two.
by David Fucillo on Dec 12, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
The commissioner really hates him... but even if he were suspended, you're prob right
There’s that whole appeal process and all that anyway.
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Neither Harrison or Big Ben will be out. Harrison will appeal his suspension and will be able to play and Big Ben is a mafuggin’ boss, so he’s sure to play as well.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 13, 2011 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
hopefully the review of any appeal will be very short
just like it was for Suh. It would be nice for Harrison to be out for next Monday, last thing we need is for him to lay wood on crabtree on a 5yrd pass that is too high and crabs has to jump for it…ouch.
Should be a Significant Suspension
His comments after the hit shows that he just doesn’t get it. Easily could have ended the career of McCoy with what he did. This shouldn’t be just a one game suspension, it should be for the rest of the season and even if he appeals it should be expedited before the Steelers get a chance to play again.
by Rocky632 on Dec 12, 2011 10:17 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I dont want him suspended
I want to see this team play and win against a Really good defense that can bring pressure, and confuse an offense with their scheme. I want to see this team tested after a tough loss. They need that number 2 seed.
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Exactly why you should hope that the Steelers are short as many starters as possible. We can get that test against NO in the divisional round of the playoffs.
by 9thevolution on Dec 12, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
That test is a one and done test
I would rather it happen in the regular season
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Seriously doubt this team beats the Saints in the Superdome....
would rather the game is at the ’Stick. Besides once the playoffs hit, they can start to not care about what they show in a game. That means we might actually see some blitzing from our defense and some more of those creative offensive plays that were successful earlier in the year.
by 9thevolution on Dec 12, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
It'd be nice to beat the chumps at full strength,
but for one, he deserves to be suspended for his repeated violations, and for two, this is the NFL, it’s actually pretty rare for any team to be at full strength, particularly this late in the season.
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I don't like to wish injury on players
but I’d love to see him give himself a concussion next time he leads with his helmet like that.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
by 49erLou on Dec 12, 2011 10:29 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
He has taken more helmet hits than he has given out. you are just allowing yourself to let the sensationalistic media to influence you (in my humble opinion) We are talking about what? 3 plays? One…Massaquoi. Why did it happen? Someone ducked their head, otherwise that is a text book tackle (at least what my coaches taught me, put your helmet in to their chest). Two. Cribbs. Looked bad, yes, but is he supposed to know that Cribbs is going to get held up?
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no I'm not letting sensationalistic media influence me
There was no reason for him to lead with his helmet on McCoy, he wasn’t just going for the tackle he was trying to injure him. He has been warned and fined numerous times, there’s no excuse for him to still be doing crap like this, either he’s too stupid to figure it out or he’s just a giant douchebag.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
by 49erLou on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“There was no reason for him to lead with his helmet on McCoy”
How do you tackle without leading with your helmet, coach? Is he supposed to tackle him sideways? No, no, I got it… he’s supposed to hug him until they fall to the ground like little children, right?
smh
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
lol
no he’s just not supposed to smash a guy in the head with his helmet. It’s pretty simple really, I’ve seen our Safety Dashon Goldson make some pretty huge hits without crashing his head into the other guys head.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AsbvKfNPQ&feature=related
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
by 49erLou on Dec 12, 2011 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Hard hitting is still a part of the game, just do it within the rules. Some guys get this, while others just whine.
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lol, are you kidding? There is one difference between that hit and the ones people whine about with Harrison. That receiver didn’t duck his head. Other than that, it is nearly identical.
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lol take off the Black and Gold colored glasses for a minute
please.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
everybody just magically ducks when James Harrison tackles them?
ridiculous
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Offensive players duck away from hits all the time. If you don’t think that’s true then I suggest you have your eyes checked out.
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ok well first I never said that they don't
I just find it funny that every offensive player ducks away from hits but the only one that seems to not be able to adjust to that is James Harrison.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
you still haven’t answered who these people are. We are talking about two hits here. But the headlines got you, so apparently, the only tackles Harrison have ever made in his life are of the nature you speak of (which is strange considering how many tackles he has)
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The man has 540 tackles and 57 sacks in his career, yet two hits (which weren’t his fault) define him. If that’s not some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen then I’m not sure what is.
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2 hits?
During the 2010 season, Harrison drew several penalties and fines for hits that were deemed to be illegal by referees and the NFL. On October 17, he knocked out two Browns wide receivers; Mohammed Massaquoi, and his former college teammate, Josh Cribbs. On Halloween against the Saints, he hit quarterback Drew Brees. Against the Raiders, he hit another QB, Jason Campbell. The following week at Buffalo, another incident occurred when Ryan Fitzpatrick had thrown a complete pass to David Nelson, Harrison came out of the line and speared Fitzpatrick. Harrison was fined $120,000 in total.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
by 49erLou on Dec 12, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess none of those were his fault either?
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
way to get off topic. Have another one
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lol ok
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
well were we talking about h2h hits? One H2H hit is mentioned in your headline material up there. Why are you changing topics? As I’ve said, but you probably ignored, you can youtube every single thing he got fined for last year. Should give you a good laugh. Especially the ones for Fitzpatrick and Campbell.
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So, you ARE influenced by headlines. Right-o!
So were we talking about head to head hits (I thought we were) or were we talking about fines for touching the quarterback? You can youtube all of those. But again, I thought we were talking about helmet to helmet hits here?
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again what headlines?
that is from his Wikipedia.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
oh, the same site that said Ike Taylor founded Swaggin U…
Again, we are talking about two hits here. Massequoi ducked his head, he got his bell rung. McCoy ducked, pulled up, got his bell rung. These things happen.
The Cribbs one..he got held up. If you aren’t going by headlines, but are going by wikipedia, maybe you should forget both of those, and just try watching football.
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yep I never watch football
and I’m slow. Great arguments guys
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
I didn’t say you were slow did I? I did think you might be drunk, but that’s understandable right?
I didn’t say you never watch football, but what else are you basing your comments about Harrison off of if you don’t watch ESPN? I think it’s kind of crazy to make those conclusions without actually seeing the games, and I know you weren’t watching that Browns game last year. So where are you getting it from?
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I watch every game that is on TV
I watch games on ESPN but I don’t watch any of their other programs because it’s all bias sensationalistic crap. I’ve seen plenty of Steelers games where I feel I can have an opinion on Harrison.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Ok, I don’t think I’ll get any more than that. All I can say is that I assure you, you didn’t see the game that started all this nonsense about Harrison, because it was a 1 o clock game only shown in the Cleve/Pitt area markets. i can’t really say whether you watched last Thursdays game or not, but it just doesn’t seem like you could possibly feel that way if something wasn’t pulling you in that direction. (by something I mean the two types of things I mentioned)
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well I'm not sure what you're looking for
it’s my opinion, I’m not claiming it’s right or anything, it’s just my opinion. I didn’t see the game last year but did hear a lot of chatter about it so maybe that did have some influence on me (as much as I try to not let it).
I saw most of Thursdays game, and I did see the hit on McCoy and in my opinion, it was a hit that could have been avoided.
I also remember reading some comments from Harrison himself either last year or during the summer that gave me a very negative opinion on the guy as a human being. To be honest with you, those comments, more then the actual hits, are probably the main thing that causes my dislike for him.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Well, he could be a dumb ass with a big mouth. They aren’t there for spiritual/life guidance. I’m not sure whether the McCoy hit could have been avoided, my only point is, it’s not worth a suspension.
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Don’t bother. They aren’t even responding to the football-related material in our comments anymore because they know they are wrong but can’t admit it.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
right because calling people slow and ignorant
is football related?
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
No, it’s not, but you refuse to argue against any of the points in my comment and instead focus on the occasional insult that I threw at you. Either give up and admit that you are wrong or respond to my points.
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ya; you are wrong.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 13, 2011 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
I remember every hit you just copy and pasted (without watching, obviously), and I’ll explain every one of them to you. Don’t worry, I’ll go slow. The hit on Cribbs was legal since Cribbs was a runner, so that is irrelevant to the argument. The hit on Brees was a second late and was not helmet to helmet. Instead, he hit him in the back. This is a play that happens often. The hit on Campbell wasn’t H2H either, and he made a nice tackle. However, he “drove” him in to the ground, which every player in the NFL has done at one point, so singling Harrison out for it is a bitch move. The hit on Fitzpatrick was clean hit through and through, and happens every game to every quarterback.
Next time I suggest you actually look at the hits before posting such an ignorant comment.
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lol yeah personal insults always help your arguments look better
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
The truth hurts.
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ok
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
So are you going to respond to the rest of my comment or not? Have you finally given up?
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yeah I'm not gonna res[pond to someone that can't make an argument with personally attacking the person they are talking to
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
That's what I thought.
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yep you win congrats
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
blogging champion of the world!!
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
No, but I’ve proven that you have no idea what you are talking about and are, like Frank said, just reading headlines and coming to faulty conclusions.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
or
making conclusions to a player that is heavily fined and is facing suspension because of multiple incidents and could use friendly information from fans that watch more closely. Try and have a bit of class
no you've proved that you can't make an argument without insulting someone
make an argument without calling me a name and I’ll be glad to have a civil argument with you.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Now you’re just desperate. Maybe if my comments were nothing but insults your comment would makes sense, but I’ve typed hundreds if not thousands of words in support of Harrison and all you can focus on are a few insults every now and then. My arguments are sound and you’ve yet to respond to ANY of them.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
because you are so abrasive
we would say, “good point. Thanks for providing us with another point of view. Maybe there is a little more than meets the eye”. What do you want us to do? Do you want to win the internet? Good points thanks. Next time try and be more civil please.
yep I'm desperate
because I don’t appreciate being called slow and ignorant.
it’s really simple, I made my arguments without calling anyone any sort of names, you countered my arguments by calling me slow and ignorant.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
I have done what you are talking about, but you are ignoring me in favor of bickering with someone else.
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sorry, I forgot to acknowledge this
yes, you have made some good points. I have to agree that the target put on him was more to do with his MVP than the offenses made
sorry Frank I do appreciate
the fact that you have been pretty respectful in your counter arguments
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
you still haven’t answered who these people are
probably because I have no clue what you are talking about
But the headlines got you
what headlines? I don’t watch ESPN (The World Wide Leader in Sensationalistic journalism) so I’m not sure what you are even talking about.
so apparently, the only tackles Harrison have ever made in his life are of the nature you speak of (which is strange considering how many tackles he has)
again what? For one that makes no sense and two, I never said Harrison only makes dirty tackles. What are you even talking about here?
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Ok, obviously you are trying to mess with me or you are really drunk, we’ll just leave it there. I can’t comprehend words for you sir.
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I'm not trying to mess with you
i’m trying to understand what you are asking me.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
this is your comment
I just find it funny that every offensive player ducks away from hits but the only one that seems to not be able to adjust to that is James Harrison.
this is mine
you still haven’t answered who these people are.
what i meant by that was, who are these people that are taking hits that Harrison can’t adjust to? We are talking about two hits. But your assertion is that every hit Harrison makes is a helmet to helmet hit
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well I definitely don't think that every hit Harrison makes is illegal or dirty
like I said below the “everybody ducks” comment was more a sarcastic response to the other guy saying that neither of those hits were Harrison’s fault.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Gotcha. The Massequoi one really was Massequoi’s fault. Doing what he did was a big no-no. I don’t really know about the Colt hit. It’s just one of those bang-bang plays that happens. As I’ve said, all I’m saying is it shouldn’t be a suspension. Look what Suh did? That’s a suspension worthy act.
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I don't recall the Massequoi hit well enough now to have an opinion on it
but I do seem to remember hearing a lot of people say that he was mostly to blame for the way he ended up getting hit.
As for Suh, I completely agree with that, something like what he did has no place in the game. At least with Harrison’s hits, they are an expected part of the game, getting stomped on while you’re down on the ground is not something that happens regularly in a football game.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
instead of the comment of mine that I boxed in the last one, this is actually the one I meant to box
everybody just magically ducks when James Harrison tackles them?
ridiculous
This is the one I was asking you about. And for emphasis sake, I will reiterate that we are talking about two hits here.
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that comment was mainly a sarcastic response to the other guy
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
What are you talking about? Numerous people have been fined over the last two years for H2H hits, it’s just that Harrison has been made the poster boy of the NFL and its pussification of this (once) great sport.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
They aren’t black and gold sir. Felt the same way about Dunta Robinson’s hits. Brandon Merriweather on Heap though, that’s a dirty play.
To your second statement, are you actually aware of which Harrison hits are in question? Or are you just recalling seeing a headline or two? If you could, maybe you let me know which one’s your recall. We can go from there.
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form tackle?
lead with the shoulder, wrap the player up and drive through him with your face up. Lift up and follow through. That hurts, is efficient, and safe. That was sloppy.
The only players who wrap up are high school kids and small cornerbacks. In college and the NFL good defensive players try to launch themselves into the offensive player to dislodge the ball, whether you are Goodell like it.
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"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
that “lead with the helmet” thing sounds exactly like letting sensationalistic media influence. I don’t know how your body is configured, but my head is above my shoulders. You’re “trying to injure” him thing is an opinion, and a highly unlikely one at that. He can’t be held responsible for someone ducking, or pulling up.
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Hate to win w the opponents
hurting, but that’s the NFL.
Resisted commenting on AZ loss but it’s one game where Niners were outcoached.
One typical play: Niners backed up on 12 and Crabs runs a lazy question mark shaped route which Peterson could have covered in Junior High. Incomplete & punt.
Sure, O-line problems but should still have won by ten.
Lastly, deactivate Braylon. Any average guy could have caught that TD pass, which appeared well thrown for a come back. His contract was an experiment – a failed one. I’d rather have a 3rd string TE making that play than Braylon.
can't agree w/ out coached...
For me it was more of players not executing* especially in the redzone. Coaches can scheme up all they want but if players don’t make play rest is moot imo…
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 12, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
6 game suspension with $250,000.00 fine
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do it NFL
and if that doesn’t send a message to him and he does it another time, purposely and maliciously, then kick him out for good.
by danknerd49 on Dec 12, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
have him sign a legal document that says
that if he does it again, he will be prosecuted criminally. He purposely put his helmet right into his head to inflict damage; no question to me. In any other situation that happens, that would be a felony. There is no place in sports to be that dirty and cheap; but I guess it is ok if you are dirty and cheap and play football for a team in Pennsylvania.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 12, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
What a stupid comment.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
yes, you made a stupid comment. if you do not acknowledge that was a dirty move; you do not respect the sport or other people. but again it appears you are steelers fan trolling. congrats you have the most dirtiest player in the nfl and a rapist!!!!!!!!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 12, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
that is ridiculous. I don’t know if that’s a San Francisco thing or what, but there was nothing dirty about it. That sort of thing happens. Especially when two shorter people are going toward each other and one ducks.
You should amend your comment to say “I hate the Steelers, and if you don’t agree with me, I have free reign to attack your character” Just be real would ya?
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It doesn’t really matter anyway. Harrison was out for 4 games earlier, including one against the team that just beat you guys. So it’s not a huge issue. I just think it’s funny how up in arms some of you guys are getting. It reminds me of a certain episode of South Park in a way.
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Definitely.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
you have one thing right
this is the new sign to welcome people to Pennsylvania.
Home of cheap dirty players, rapists, and child molesters; Welcome to Pennsylvania!!!!
attack my character? you yourself proven my point. other players who play football from pee wee football to the nfl do not purposely look to hurt people badly by hitting them with their helmet to their helmet. Pennsylvania is the only state in the United States that seems to condone despicable behavior in the name of football. Congrats for being one of them; to me it is really disgusting.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
the sign
Come on. That’s really unnecessary in this conversation.
And I will say that if Harrison was on any other team in the league (including the 49ers), I’m pretty sure a lot of those fans would be defending his hits. So don’t make this out to be some kind of PA problem.
by David Fucillo on Dec 13, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
well it is
if the shoe fits and where there is smoke. If they do not want that reputation then they need to change but in my eyes it is spot on right now and even the poster comments prove it. Hard to argue that it is not.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 17, 2011 1:25 AM PST up reply actions
its a window to the views of this player outside of Pittsburgh
Fans are getting tired of it. Also he is putting a bullseye on everyone of his teammates when he does this.
by mcwagner on Dec 12, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
There are already a ton of injuries in the NFL without some jackass running around trying to injure other players.
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by jbrown63 on Dec 12, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you ever played football? No? I didn’t think so. If you think anyone can stop themselves in mid-air while going full speed and just avoid a hit then you need a lesson in physics. Then consider the fact that Harrison thought he was a runner (as did everyone watching the game) up until McCoy pulled up and dumped off the pass at the last second.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
So again why is it always this guy?
Why is he always the center of attention? It happens sure, but it seems to always happen to him. He would get that credit if he didn’t have this problem all the time. Its the attitude also. He have a player right here in SF that plays with that same intensity and he avoids the situation more often than not. There are some real class acts on the Steelers team, he is not one of them.
is that a serious question? When your bitterly hated rivals are sticking up for you and talking about how you’re being targeted/turned in to a poster boy, I’d say it’s pretty obvious what’s going on.
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I did not know the other players were pulling for him.
I still say he put that target on himself and that he knows the target is on him and he needs to be a bit more responsible. Dashon Goldson has a target on him because he plays with that same intensity and he has gotten flags for clean hits where he leads with the shoulder. In the heat of the game its hard to tell. So we get penalized for a player doing the right thing and has avoided the H2H. And we are fine with it because its all for safety.
he put that target on himself by happening to have his only two incidents happening on the same day, which was also the same day that there were about 6 other hits that started this madness. His was NOTHING compared to what Merriweather did to Todd Heap, or what TJ Ward did to Jorday Shipley. The difference is, one of those three are very good players on a very good team.
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Also, Penalty…fine with me. Fine…fine with me…Suspension? For a football play? Bullshit.
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ya, it was not a "football play";
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 13, 2011 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
Hitting someone isn’t a football play? Huh.
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assault and battery is not a football play; next.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 17, 2011 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I played football.
Well, I practiced some anyway. I couldn’t actually play in the games because I suck at sports and am incredibly lazy. I’m also pretty terrible at physics, and really, everything besides mathematics. Not sure how you figured all of that out from a couple short comments on the internet; you must have amazing powers of deduction, the likes of which would put one Sherlock Holmes to absolute shame.
Given how incredible your powers seem to be, one has to wonder how you fail to comprehend the actual issue, which is that James Harrison is apparently too stupid, or too stubborn, to follows the rules and common human decency. What kind of jackass launches himself helmet first into another persons chin? This isn’t his first offense, he as been told repeated to use good-form when tackling. His idiocy is one of the biggest reasons that referees these days are throwing so many personal foul flags. The guy needs to get right or get out.
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by jbrown63 on Dec 12, 2011 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rarely anymore do players use “good form” when tackling, as a lot of defensive players now want to lay the hardest hit they can and wind up on Sports Center, and rightfully so. And Harrison has only had two “bad” H2H hits, neither of which were his fault. The hit on Massaquio (or however you spell his name) was a result of Massaquio lowering his head (as all offensive players do) as he was about to be hit. Harrison was going for a helmet to chest hit, which is fine by Goodell’s pussy rules. The hit on McCoy was the result of Harrison seeing McCoy run (keep in mind he can’t see the LoS) and thinking that he was a runner, so of course he wants to lay the nastiest hit he can on him: who wouldn’t? And, since he thought McCoy was a runner, he thought that the H2H hit would be legal. Of course, McCoy pulls up at the last second and now retards want him suspended, because for some reason they think a grown man running at full speed can stop himself on a dime.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
retards?
is that necessary? You really take your entire argument that looked valid and made it look like something a 12 year old would say. Player safety is something that should be taken seriously
it is, that’s why the game should be eliminated. There is nothing safe about the game at all.
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Is that all you got out of my comment? That’s sad.
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yes
thats what happens when you act like a child. The child may have a good point but then writes on the walls and his opinion is again taken as a child
Here you are again, refusing to respond to my arguments.
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funny how that works huh
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
"retards"
Please don’t use that word here, particularly in that context.
by David Fucillo on Dec 12, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
this is just out of curiosity. Is there a context in which it is acceptable? Just wondering because of the “particularly in that context” part.
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Here:
Summer passed away in these occupations, and my return to Geneva was fixed for the latter end of autumn; but being delayed by several accidents, winter and snow arrived, the roads were deemed impassable, and my journey was retarded until the ensuing spring.
- From Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
Though one can always use some synonym to avoid it’s use.
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Lol, did you pull that passage from memory? If so..you have an amazing memory
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Ha-ha, no, I actually have a terrible memory.
No, I went to google, because I knew that there were some legitimate uses of the word, but I didn’t know of any of the top of my head. That quote was the best of the results, in my opinion.
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lol gotcha. But were there any legitimate uses of just “retards”?
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I wouldn't think so, no.
The phrase may have been legitimately used in that way in the past, medically or whatever, but I’m pretty sure people have generally moved away from using the term.
"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
"Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon..."
So of all the great Beatles songs, Eleanor Rigby is the greatest to you?
By the way, we like a lot of the same music, movies, and tv shows. I know, I know. “who cares” Just thought I’d throw that out there.
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Well, there really are too many great songs for a "greatest" to exist.
“Eleanor Rigby” is basically my favorite song, although my top ten does get shuffled around from time to time. My “All-Beatles” playlist is 5.4 hours long, consisting of 112 different songs, (Technically 111 different; there is both an album version and a live version of “Yesterday”, though they are far enough apart on the list to be considered distinct), so even making a “Top-Twenty Beatles Songs” list would be very difficult.
Regarding your second statement, I care. It’s weird, because I’m generally apathetic regarding others, and yet constantly concerned with how myself and my interests are regarded those same others. I’m sure a Psychology major would have something to say about that. Anyway, you’re alright FrankWyt.
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context
I said that more because as we have seen with the Frankenstein quote, anything is possible. Generally I prefer it simply not be used at all, but I won’t close out what I don’t know about.
But normally, it’s an unacceptable term.
by David Fucillo on Dec 12, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Then “idiots” or “dumb-asses” will have to do.
"I’ll consider myself a dirty player when my mom calls me a dirty player." - Ndamukong Suh
yep because when someone doesn't agree with you
call them a name!
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Hmmm...
While I would hope that having him out would make a difference, I truly believe at this point we have shown the weakness still prevalent on the OL (specifically the depth). Until I hear that we have all our OL back and healthy I do not think they can pass the test. The way that AZ parted the line like it was a hot knife through butter makes me fear for what will happen when we meet another “real” defense (much like Ravens).
Completely deserves a suspension....
He’ll cry about how he’s not allowed to play defense anymore, but this was one tackle where he could have easily made it without leading with the helmet. This guy does it purposely at this point and then wonders why people think he’s a douche.
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Leading w/ the helmet
I often hear this discussed a way that tackling is taught. Leading with your head is obviously a biological given, since it is at the pinnacle of the body. The part that Mr Harrison has shown difficulty with, is the second part: wrapping up. In his punishable hits, he always does nothing with his arms. He literally throws himself at the offensive player with no attempt to use his arms to grab and take down.
Against McCoy, he did (as he has in previous mishaps) lead with the helmet. His arms? No attempt to corral the the offensive player. It’s an incomplete tackle, and not legal. He should be reprimanded in a way that will get his attention, and hopefully help him to see the error in his play. For the better of the game, Mr Harrison needs to know why his hits aren’t legal, and restore his ability to understand the fundamental of his side of the ball…..
bring down the ball carrier by using all of your facilities equally. be smart and do not harm your team.
wait…are you saying that helmet to helmet is ok, as long as you put your arms around them?
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definitely not...
it’s the ‘leading w/ the helmet’ football action that is often pointed to as justification for his tackling style.
If your intention, as a defensive player, is to take down the carrier. Your helmet will lead to the center of your opponents body- a place where your following arms will effectively wrap up.
Players that lead to the helmet are not just doing a vicious thing, they are also doing an unintelligent thing…they are ignoring good form. And furthermore, if you lead your helmet toward another’s helmet, than you are more than likely to miss your tackle. it’s the smallest part of the offensive player’s body and furthest from the center of their mass.
Oh, well said.
It’s an incomplete tackle, and not legal.
Did you mean something else other than legal? I agree, it’s bad form. But I think his goal is to make that ball come out, and blowing them up is probably the best way to go about it. Another goal is probably making that player think twice. But yeah..not always good tackling by him.
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Taught from day one as a football player ...
… head up , wrap up and drive thru the numbers …
really it’s that simple …!!
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Lead with your shoulder and not your head , again taught from day one ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
lol seriously? So…on your body, your shoulders are above your head? Did you even read what you typed?
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do you know how to read? lets start there........
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