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49ers Vs. Seahawks: Five Questions With Field Gulls

The San Francisco 49ers travel to the Pacific Northwest later today for a Christmas Even divisional battle with the Seattle Seahawks. The 49ers defeated the Seahawks in their season opener, thanks in large part to a couple big Ted Ginn returns for touchdowns. The 49ers never gave up the lead in the game, but they did let the Seahawks back into the game in the fourth quarter. The defense has developed a bit more consistency, but if Doug Baldwin is able to play it will be interesting to see how he does against the 49ers pass defense.

I took a few minutes to chat with Danny Kelly from Field Gulls to get a better handle on his Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks are one of the hotter teams in the NFL right now having won five of six. They need significant help to win the wild card, but they remain alive, which I think could make for a tough battle on Saturday.

Niners Nation: The Seahawks are playing solid football having won five of their last six. What changed following the 2-6 start?

Field Gulls: In short, the offense. The Seahawks offensive line was very shaky to start the year, with good reason, starting two rookies on the right side, and the offensive output suffered. The pass protection was poor, the run game was almost non existent, and the quarterbacking was pretty suspect. As the year has gone on though, Tarvaris Jackson's play has improved and a big part of the credit can go to improved run/pass blocking by an offensive line unit that finally started putting things together. Marshawn Lynch began to shoulder the offensive attack, not Jackson, and the role of "game-manager" suits Tjack much better.

The result has been three straight games with the Seahawks scoring 30+ points (though the defense has accounted for some of those points as well), and a rushing attack that's been formidable, putting up 100+ games six straight weeks until facing the Bears' defense last week (where they ran for 60).

One other thing to note is that the Seahawks actually had the toughest first half schedule of any team in the NFL. This, combined with all the issues I described above, led to an awful 2-6 start. Of course, people began to talk about Sucking for Luck at that point, but thankfully that discussion is now over as the Seahawks sit at 7-7.

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NN: Marshawn Lynch grabbed two more scores this week. He has been on fire during this recent run. The 49ers have not given up a rushing touchdown this season, setting the record for most games to start a season without allowing a rushing TD. Does Lynch snap that streak? What do the 49ers need to do to contain #BeastMode?

FG: Well, I suppose if anyone is going to break that streak it might be BeastMode, for a couple of reasons. First, his physical style of running means he'll occasionally break off a huge run despite being seemingly bottled up by the defense. Second, (until last week anyway, I haven't seen a stat this week) Marshawn Lynch has rushed for more yards than any other running back in the NFL in the last six or seven weeks. He's also scored a touchdown in 10 straight games. That said, of course, it's going to be extremely difficult for him to get past the ridiculous 49er run defense into the endzone.

In terms of stopping the run, I would simply say the Niners need to keep doing what they've been doing. Stay assignment correct, and make sure they wrap up and gang-tackle Lynch once he's been slowed. I have the feeling it's going to be a rough game rushing for Lynch but we'll see.

NN: The Seahawks secondary has been getting some praise. Can you tell us about how the unit has developed this year?

FG: Earl Thomas is a budding star - he's a free safety with a ridiculous amount of range and speed. He's also got very good instincts and the Seahawks have played aggressively with him, moving him up to the line of scrimmage or roaming about in the secondary. Next to him is Kam Chancellor, a hard hitting, 6'4, 225 pound sophomore safety that has been making some noise of late. He's been better than expected in pass defense, picking off four passes thus far on the season, and regularly makes a big hit or two per game in run support.

The cornerback duo of Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman have been impressive. They're strongest in jamming and rerouting receivers and tend to match up well with the bigger guys in the league. My hope is that this carries on to Saturday's game, where they'll look to take Michael Crabtree out of the game and frustrate him. It's a tall order of course, but Browner (a first year guy that played in Canada the past four seasons) and Sherman (a rookie out of Harbaugh's Stanford) have been very good this season against teams' number one receivers. This success has been, to put it lightly, a huge boost.

NN: Aside from Doug Baldwin, who has been the biggest surprise for the Seahawks?

FG: There are a couple of guys that I'd put on that list - first off, C Max Unger has been a nice surprise as the leader of the offensive line and a big part of the reason the Seahawks' run game has finally gotten some traction. Along those lines, G/T Paul McQuistan, a veteran journeyman that was signed prior to the season as a street free agent, has been great, filling in at guard for Robert Gallery when he went out for a few weeks, and now serving as the left tackle with Russell Okung's injury. He's not what you'd want in a starting left tackle obviously, but he's good enough to get the job done.

Obviously, Tarvaris Jackson has been a pleasant surprise. Not many fans believe he's the long-term answer necessarily, but he's probably looked at in a similar fashion to how 49er fans look at Alex Smith. We had low expectations for Jackson when he came in, but his toughness - both mentally and physically - has endeared him to the fanbase. If he manages to not turn the ball over too often and mixes in an explosive play once or twice a game, he gives the Seahawks a chance to win. He's a good leader and beloved by his teammates.

On the defense, Alan Branch has been a nice surprise, plugging up the middle of the defensive line and bringing some tenacity to that unit. Finally, Red Bryant, the strongside defensive end, has lived up to his play from early last year by putting on an arguably Pro-Bowl type of performance this season.

NN: Score prediction, and why?

FG: I'm going to say 13-10, Niners. A low scoring, sluggish game dominated by long drives and ball control. Field position and special teams will be key, as we saw in these two teams' last matchup. As much as I'd like to pick my Seahawks, for some reason my gut tells me this will be a heartbreaker. That said, I really do feel like this has the makings for a very memorable battle. Both teams have a lot on the line and both teams are playing for NFC West pride. The Carroll-Harbaugh "What's Your Deal Bowl Part II" is compelling and I'm sure there's no love lost between players on both teams. The CLink is a fun venue and I have no doubt it's going to be chippy on the field. Can't wait.

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The not allowing a single rushing TD is a neat stat

but it’s not as telling IMO as the 36-game streak of not allowing a 100-yard rusher. At some point an opponent will snap the TD streak, perhaps after a receiver gets tackled at the 1 or something. If it ends, oh well. But if our Niners can keep Lynch under 100, that will be huge.

by BruinMW on Dec 23, 2011 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

I don't know

2 more games of no rushing TDs, and the Niners will set a record which will probably stand for another 90 something years. Obviously if the team gets put in a bad position at the goal line it could be difficult, but I still remember when the Ravens had 1st and goal at the 4 and a 2nd and goal at the 1, and ended up kicking a field goal from the 5.

by Sebaz49 on Dec 23, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to see Lynch break 100 yards

But I highly, highly doubt it’ll happen.

The patchwork o-line (3 out of 5 starters on IR) has performed admirably, but they aren’t capable of dominating run blocking against strong defenses. It isn’t tough to beat up the Rams and the Eagles of the world. But the Bears and 49ers are a different story.

I’d be a tiny bit surprised if he doesn’t score a TD, but running for over 100 yards would probably require breaking one long, lucky run that pads his stat line.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Why is that?

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Because I have seen the way this defense has played all year long and there is no defense that compares in stopping the run. Lynch is a good back, but we have faced better this year and completely stifled them.

Lynch’s first game against the Niners, his average was 2.5 YPC… and that was inflated by a 12-yard run. Take that away and it is closer to 1 yard.

We also have the best RZ defense in the NFL. In order for Lynch to get in the endzone, someone would literally have to fall down and miss an open field tackle.

Not saying it is impossible because nothing is. But I would bet on him fumbling the ball before he got in to the endzone on this defense.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, so it more of a compliment to his ability to secure the ball.

For whatever reason I took your comment as a knock on him fumbling. Which he doesn’t frequently do.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, exactly.

I am just saying that it is so rare for a team to score on us in any fashion, let alone running it, that the probability of a back like Lynch, who has good ball security, would most likely be prone to fumbling it before he scored.

But I still have doubts that he goes over 50 yards… and that is only if he gets 15+ carries.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

We've also been pretty stellar on winning the field possession battle.

I think it would take a huge play just for you guys to get in the redzone.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the Seahawks' primary advantages lie not in the rosters, but the situation:

1. Niners on a short week after an emotional win (Hawks won with Ravens after they had just beat Pittsburgh)

2. Game is at CLink. Crowd will be ultra fired up for this game.

3. Somewhat roster related: if Willis plays, I’m doubting he’s 100%. Hammy injuries are no joke. I’d much rather play against Willis at less than 100% than his replacement (who’s been playing great ball).

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Re – 1: We are working with one less day than Seattle. And in looking at the injury report, you guys are just as banged up as us, if not more.

Re – 2: I am sure the crowd initially will be fired up. But that doesn’t mean they can’t be taken out early. And I don’t think there is a real advantage for you on offense. Defensively, the crowd may help… but it’s not like the crowd silence while you are on offense is going to throw our defense off any.

Re – 3: Willis most likely won’t play. From what I have seen on the weather reports, it looks like there’s gonna be some rain tomorrow. Also, I don’t know if rain drowns out crowd noise, but depending how hard it is coming down, that could work in our favor considering that Frank Gore has had some of his better games against Seattle.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Dunno if you've noticed, but our defense usually is the reason we win games.

Which is why playing at CLink is so important. Generating turnovers, 3 and outs, false starts, etc.

And five days between games with a flight involved and sleeping in an unfamiliar bed is all part of it. Will it have much affect? Who knows. I’m simply glad our guys aren’t the ones that has to go through it.

And our practice report looks great. All the really important guys are healthy and practicing. Baldwin didn’t practice, but he’ll play. I think it’s more precautionary.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoops. Four days between games. I swear I can count =)

At least the second time around.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Have you seen our road record? A short flight up to Seattle is not exactly gonna wear this team out. We’ve faced a lot tougher adversity than that.

I am sure we will jump offsides a couple times… Anthony Davis is good for at least two of them.

But if you are looking at stat lines, Gore has had some of his better games against Seattle. Your defense may have been good for the past few games against other teams. But I’ll take Gore’s history versus the Seahawks over that.

I really doubt we are over looking the Seahawks. This is not at all a trap game. The Rams game may be because of their record. But Seattle is still fighting for a playoff spot.

But I’d bet the Niners can handle business on a short flight up to Seattle. Been doing it all year… and against good teams. Teams who win at home and have been.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You've lost your two last road games.

I’m simply saying the situation favors the Seahawks.

If you could, I’m sure you’d switch the situation: 49ers playing at home, Hawks on a four day rest, flying to SF, etc.

Once again: not sure it’ll affect the outcome of the game, but I’m glad the Seahawks benefit more from the situation than the 49ers do.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Favors?

I doubt you guys are opening as favorites in this game.

Our margins of loss have been 3 in OT, 10 (Ravens), and 2 (on a fluky deal from the Cards).

Outside of crowd noise while we’re on offense, I don’t think there is a major swing of you all being favorites.

Cincinnati, Atlanta, and Cleveland have all come in to your house and beat you. If they can do it, so can the Niners.

You are after all only 4-3 at home…

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Cincinnati, Atlanta,Cleveland, and Washington have all come in to your house and beat you.

In any case, We’ve beaten two of those three teams. Both those wins against them came on the road.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

We played

@ Cleveland.

by bigtrain21 on Dec 23, 2011 11:52 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

You're taking 'favors' literally.

I don’t think the Seahawks are favored for this game. And they shouldn’t be.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't see the Hawks as favored...

it’s an advantage, not to be discounted, but not enough to swing it all in our favor. Also, to be fair, we did win against the Ravens at home

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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Hawks do benefit more from this situation....

But I would bet that Harbaugh is not going to let this team lose. He knows very well how important that #2 seed is for us and since NO doesn’t play until Monday, it’s up to us to set the tone in the playoff race. You guys are definitely playing good ball right now, but I can’t imagine that Harbaugh allows the game to get away from us.

Mostly, I would expect the boring field position battle where we take the points when we can get them and grind out a win. Our defense is built to do that. And Aldon Smith against a banged up OL is probably licking his chops at the sack numbers he could potentially get.

by 9thevolution on Dec 23, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet Julius Peppers was licking his chops as well.

Got one sack that was all TJack’s fault.

I’m more worried about the fact you have BOTH Aldon and Justin at the same time.

sigh

Lots of three step drops, I hope.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Those are not the only two that can get to the QB which makes it even more scary. McDonald, Brooks, and Bowman (when they send him) all can get there too… and Willis too of course if he plays comes every now and again.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Lynch's career average against SF is 65 yards.

And he has never scored a rushing or receiving TD against us.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I doubt that'll change after tomorrow, either.

He may get a TD, but I’m not betting on it. And 65 yards sounds about right.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

"his average was 2.5 YPC… and that was inflated by a 12-yard run. Take that away and it is closer to 1 yard."

Did you read the part about how the offensive line has greatly improved since then?

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by Fearless Frog on Dec 23, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Greatly??

Mm.. still the Seahawks vs. 49ers… our defense certainly hasn’t regressed. And you have two backups playing on the line, right? Or is it 3?

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There's more to it than the 49ers simply not allowing a rushing TD

They very rarely allow TDs of any kind. They have the best red zone defense in the NFL.

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by urnext on Dec 23, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

"They come to our place Christmas Eve," McCloughan says of the 11-3 Niners, "and we’re going to beat the hell out of ‘em."

Oooo… them is fighting words Scoty McDrunkenheimer

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

He really said that?

Must have been knockin’ back the egg nog.

by madmatt on Dec 23, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

HA!!

how many fingers am I holding up Scot?

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

He watched Gore break the record and then got emotional and left...

…………probably to have a pint of whiskey.

He said, “He was proud of what HE built.”

Funny, Nolan, Singletary… what he built.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

amazing what whiskey can make you think...

he lucked into some picks such as Willis & VD, but had lots of what he “built” had the Balmer & Coffee variety!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

“beat the hell out of us” … ’cause, you know… teams have been doing that all year to us.

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, yeah you are right Drew.

i guess he dont know about these 49ERS

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by chris z on Dec 23, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

McBooFoo

Thank drunk has me fired up for this game already.

by bignerd on Dec 23, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool piece here

Interesting info provided. And I know all about Lynch cuz he’s on my fantasy team, haha. But as I anticipated, he was greatly slowed by a good run defense by Chicago. I think the 49ers will keep him out of the endzone and under 75 yards. That will keep the Seahawks from scoring points, and I think the 49ers will score enough to win.

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by Effage on Dec 23, 2011 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Niners had toughest first half schedule

if you count travel & the Baltimore Thursday nite fiasco.

by oldfoggy on Dec 23, 2011 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

That's just opinion. (And a legitimate one).

Danny is quoting purely SOS.

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

On a different subj: TV coverage

Just found out that SoCal is gifted with Dallas/Philly. Not our usual dog meat offering but… I guess America’s Team vs. America’s QB (Vick) is supposed to appeal to Westerner’s appetite’s.
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by oldfoggy on Dec 23, 2011 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

I have the same problem in Utah

Alex Smith played his college ball in Utah, Steve Young played his college ball in Utah which created a huge 49er fan base here, and their are a lot of people like myself who have moved here from California, yet the 8-6 Cowboys playing the 6-8 Eagles is the game they choose to show. Do they even try to figure out which game most people want to see or do they just base it off of who most people on the East coast would rather watch? Luckily I have NFL Sunday ticket but it’s still unbelievable.

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by urnext on Dec 23, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

hey, hey I'm on the eastcoast...

And this game is NOT what I want to see…. ;)

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

I hate that I’m having to figure out a way to watch this game on Christmas Eve. But hey, I was at a bar on Thanksgiving, so whatever…

by Sebaz49 on Dec 23, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

im lucky im able to spilt the NFL package with my brothers...

so i have not missed a 49ERS game in 3 years.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Dec 23, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

spilt the cost*

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Dec 23, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Question: Why is your own team one player?

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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2011 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

What?

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by Nick Andron on Dec 23, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

"One game at a time. Let's just keep it rolling." Justin Smith

by riderless on Dec 23, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

ANSWER THE QUESTION

lol… yeah, what?

Harbaughcalypse Now

by dutra on Dec 23, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Answer: Because

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else going to be in Seattle for the game?

I’ll be heading to The Clink early and wouldn’t mind meeting up with some fellow Niners fans.

by frank_the_tank on Dec 23, 2011 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

i'll be there.

have lived in seattle since 2003

by chenster on Dec 23, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Fooch is gonna be there

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by Drew Kerr on Dec 23, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

yep

Going with my folks. Should be fun, hopefully

by David Fucillo on Dec 23, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Who's going to post game threads?

I'm just a simple Giants fan trying to make my way in the universe.

by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Dec 23, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Woo Hoo!

I’ll be there too with the family, south end zone second section up.

by sevenohsev on Dec 23, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool

Enjoy the game!

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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Dec 23, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Right on

I just moved back to Seattle, so this will be my first time seeing them play here. I don’t suppose there’s going to be a 49ers tailgate setup anywhere, is there?

by frank_the_tank on Dec 23, 2011 11:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

whoa...

I’m also leaving from Mt Vernon tomorrow….do you have any interest in meeting up?

If you say no, it will be a crushing blow to my niner fandom….no pressure.

by t p on Dec 23, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That's cool

We’ll probably just check out some of the sports bars near the stadium.

by frank_the_tank on Dec 23, 2011 11:28 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I will be there

I would love to meet up with any of yous guys! I’m pretty stoked about my seats…section 109, row K. Haven’t seen the niners since 1989, and to end that miserable drought with a stellar view in downtown seattle…makes me pretty happy.

by t p on Dec 23, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I will be there section 149 row 11. First time at Qwest field. Anyone know how visiting fans get treated there?

by Renoniner78 on Dec 23, 2011 8:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

i went last year

i didnt wear my jersey but i saw hundreds of 49ers jerseys, and it probably depends on the section. I had no problems, but i was in the club section. If youre up in the bleachers it may be a bit different. But I also partied after the game in the bars and there were no problems. Dont expect any Giants/Dodgers or Black Hole feuds, but dont press your luck at the same time.

by Session9 on Dec 23, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the input. Go Niners!

by Renoniner78 on Dec 23, 2011 10:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

ill be there in the club section

my brother has season tickets and i buy his 49ers tix every year. flew down to vancouver this year just to watch the game, then off to mexico.

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