NFL Coaching Carousel: Will The 49ers Take A Spin?
by David Fucillo on Dec 31, 2011 1:00 PM PST
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PrintThe NFL wraps up the regular season tomorrow afternoon with a full slate of Week 17 action. Since the playoffs get started next week, the NFL has all 32 teams playing on Sunday so that no team gets any sort of day or more rest advantage over a potential playoff opponent (I realize I'm stating the obvious).
While the 49ers will thankfully be getting ready for their first playoff game in nearly a decade, the big story tomorrow night and early into Monday will likely be several teams handing out pink slips on what is often referred to as Black Monday. Don Banks put together his run-down of potential firings on Black Monday as well as possible hiring candidates for those jobs.
We've had some previous discussions here and there about whether the 49ers might have candidates for other jobs. Jim Leavitt is a possibility to head back to the college ranks if the right opportunity comes along. Nobody else has been mentioned in any context for another job, and I'm not really sure if I see it happening this offseason.
I would also think that the longer the team lasts in the playoffs, the less likely it is that assistants will take other jobs. They would have opportunities to interview in between playoff rounds, but teams can get impatient in the hiring process and instead of scoring Mr. Right, they end up with Mr. Right Now. Bad for them, good for the 49ers.
At this point, all I can expect would be a surprise. We talk about how Vic Fangio and Greg Roman might not leave after this season, but then there are guys like wide receivers coach John Morton and tight ends coach Reggie Davis, among others, who are relatively young and earning their stripes as position coaches. They are not locks to leave, but maybe another NFL team is looking to boost their responsibilities? Or maybe a college team wants to bring them in as a coordinator. It seems less likely at the college level since the hiring process is already flying along, but still a possibility after bowl season.
Do you think the 49ers see some coaching losses (beyond Coach Harbaugh-initiated changes), or will it take another year for 49ers coaches to start becoming the popular ones around the water-cooler?
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Nope , the whole regime comes back for year Two , too dial this team inn ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Nobody else has been mentioned in any context for another job
Not quite true. Jim Tomsula was talked about in connection with the HC job at Pitt, although he has missed out on it, with the job going to Paul Chryst, brother of our quarterbacks coach, Geep.
was he actually, or was it just a random rumor
I don’t think I ever saw anything official
I think Brad Seely will get a HC job at some point simply because the head coaching candidates are going to be really weak over the next 2-3 years.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Dec 31, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
How does everyone feel about WR development?
Would an upgrade at that coaching position be beneficial?
by njennings on Dec 31, 2011 1:07 PM PST via Android app reply actions
an upgrade of talent at the WR position would be beneficial
and a change in philosophy and/or QB would do a world of wonders for increased production at WR rather than a superficial change such as changing WR coaches.
Not all should stay.
I would like to see a Tight ends coach that would get a fire going under Davis again. If you want to see better WR play lets get smith dialed in on outside passes.
by Frederick Sparks III on Dec 31, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions
Smith has his shortcomings
But we’ve seen a lot of WR run the wrong routes and drop a lot of passes.
by njennings on Dec 31, 2011 1:25 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
run wrong routes? not sure they have done that this year
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 31, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Braylon Edwards
Had one in the endzone. Williams had one in the back of the endzone recently (broken play), VD had one where he turned the wrong way and it ended up being intercepted
by njennings on Dec 31, 2011 1:58 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Post game interviews mostly
The one I remember most clearly was Edwards against Arizona in the second quarter
by njennings on Dec 31, 2011 2:34 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
do you have links to the interviews?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 31, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Am I beat writer?!
Do I have to reveal my sources? Haha! I’m curious though, are you trying to say that the niners’ WRs don’t occasionally run the incorrect routes? I’m pretty sure every WR does in the NFL. My only issue is with the ones that led to missed TDs and the interception.
ok, so you have no evidence but are citing something as if you have evidence!
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 1, 2012 12:49 AM PST up reply actions
No
Even Mr. James Brady wrote an article about Edwards not running entire routes.
http://bayarea.sbnation.com/san-francisco-49ers/2011/12/27/2663914/braylon-edwards-release-injury-49ers
Worded incorrectly
It’s actually about Edwards being released but it mentions his half-run-routes. And I wouldn’t know how to find the interviews, but I’ll look.
+1
I’m tired of watching VD drop TD passes
by runningblack on Dec 31, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Gore drops soo many screen passes too
That’s getting old too
by njennings on Dec 31, 2011 1:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Should proofread before I hit submit.
by njennings on Dec 31, 2011 1:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
7 years and still not good with passes outside the numbers; not sure that it is a coaching thing at this point.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 31, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
prove it!
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 31, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
There have been many good passes outside the numbers, and then we have this kind.
"Alex, I asked you about throwing deep passes a few weeks ago, on Sunday you were on point with them, especially over the middle of the field to WR Michael Crabtree and TE Vernon Davis. You didn’t link up with the ones toward the sidelines to WR Ted Ginn Jr., is there a difference on those throws toward the middle?"
“Yeah, just different types of throws. The ones down the middle are play action. The ones on the sideline where there were kind of the two-minute drill at the end of half, and we’re getting-dropping eight guys, and they’re playing coverage. So, different types of throws, obviously still down the field, but much different categories as far as in my head. But almost all of those, the couple to Ted, I’m just sailing. Didn’t have clean vision on him and kind of sailing. There at the end of the half, when you’re in a two-minute drill at the end of half, you’re trying to get what you can, but obviously you’re not going to force things, make the mistakes and give the ball back. Obviously would like to hit those, but it’s just kind of educated sails, I’m going to miss it out of bounds.”
you proved yourself wrong!
. You didn’t link up with the ones toward the sidelines
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 1, 2012 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
Not so
In your first paragraph regarding the NFL playoff scheduling. You said “I realize I’m stating the obvious.” Not So. With the NFL powers that be and the idiot schedule makers. Nothing is obvious.
You mean like the 49ers having a Monday night game followed by a Saturday game?
Or a Sunday game followed by a Thursday night game (Thanksgiving) in the East time zone?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Food for Thought
Regardless of the money or change in job position, any coach that leaves the 49ers team after the near-miraculous turn-around in 2011, might just send the next decade regretting the worst career move of their life.
I really hope Seely continues to fly under the radar
I think he could make a really fine HC, so the longer he stays a secret here in SF the better for us.
What grade would you assign to this coaching staff for their following decisions?
*Not trading for Carson Palmer but having faith in Alex Smith
*Not drafting a Q.B. in the 1st round of 2011 draft
*Trading up in the 2nd round to nap Colin Kaepernick (away from Raiders possibly pick him)
*Having the balls to draft Aldon Smith with the 7th pick in 1st round.
*Drafting D.E. Bruce Miller claiming he can transform into fullback , & all laughed then.
*Not re-signing Manny Lawson to start Ahmad Brooks
*Not re-signing Aubrayo Franklin to move Sopoaga to nose
*Not re-signing Nate Clements but lucking into signing Carlos Rogers
*Not re-signing Tekio Spikes to allow Navaro Bowman to start
*Not re-signing David Baas but instead signing F/A Johnaton Goodwin
*Re-signing Ray MaDonald
*Signing David Akers to replace Joe Nedney
*Signing Donte Whitner & then falling into Dashon Golson being signed
*Keeping Jim Tomsula & Tom Rathman from Singletary Staff
*Trading Taylor Mays for a draft pick somewhere in some season
i really wanted Franklin and Spikes back
I gotta admit, i feel bad for Spikes, poor dude cant catch a break…
by sundaysfinest on Dec 31, 2011 3:41 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
B+
You left out a couple of lost opportunities:
Drafting Ronald Johnson in the 6th round, that was a bust. So was the other 6th rounder.
Kilgore in the 5th? To be determined. Meanwhile, there were some good picks there, including Stanford’s FB.
I think we could have traded Spencer for a decent draft pick. Maybe a 6. Not anymore.
But all in all, wow, great draft, great coaching, really good FAs. Great year.
The mystery pick is Kaepernick. If he turns out to be great, then I’d change my grade to A+ despite a couple of mis-steps.
I have a feeling (sorry no charts or graphs to along with it) that Harbaugh will mold Kaepernick into a very good starting QB
Look what he did with Smith. Shame Harbaugh couldn’t be here in 2005.
Also, I think Kilgore has a good chance to make it and you never know about two UFAs in Dobbs and Williams.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
A couple things.
What makes you state that Colin Jones is a bust? He is playing well on ST which is exactly the reason why he was drafted. To add, Marecic was a 5th round pick, not a 4th. And Bruce was a 7th and is looking better already.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 31, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Colin Jones is a bust? No.
Kilgore has a lot of potential, and he’ll probably be our starting center in a year or two.
I think most credit for these examples
goes to the Front Office.
by itsAteamGAME on Dec 31, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
grading...
I think a lot of them deserve N/As because it is hard to tell what would have happened otherwise. We’ll have grades in the offseason, but just off the top of my head for the ones that I think we can assign some kind of grade
*Trading up in the 2nd round to nap Colin Kaepernick (away from Raiders possibly pick him) – Incomplete
*Having the balls to draft Aldon Smith with the 7th pick in 1st round – A
*Drafting D.E. Bruce Miller claiming he can transform into fullback , & all laughed then – A+
*Not re-signing Manny Lawson to start Ahmad Brooks – Not really sure as Lawson could do things Brooks can’t do (coverage in particular)
*Not re-signing Aubrayo Franklin to move Sopoaga to nose/Re-signing Ray MaDonald
- These two belong together – A
*Not re-signing Nate Clements but lucking into signing Carlos Rogers – A – not sure I’d call it luck without knowing the full context of what the team expected
*Not re-signing Takeo Spikes to allow Navaro Bowman to start – A
*Not re-signing David Baas but instead signing F/A Jonathan Goodwin – B+ – could be higher but I’m not really sure
*Signing David Akers to replace Joe Nedney – A
*Signing Donte Whitner & then falling into Dashon Golson being signed – A
*Keeping Jim Tomsula & Tom Rathman from Singletary Staff – A
by David Fucillo on Dec 31, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I have to think the last one with Tomsula and Rathman is an A+
Same with Akers, wow what a season he had!
I totally agree with A+ for Miller..
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Also, Grade A+ for hiring Jim Harbaugh!
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
I would give cudoes (Sp) to Baalke and to Harbaugh for those decisions.
Now, after a year together, I expect more from each of them (draft and Free agency) this year.
Keeping both Jim Tomsula and Tom Rathman have to be on the top of the list just above the Aldon Smith draft pick.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Why cant asst coaches be happy with their job?
If youre good at what you do, then stay there! Why test the waters as a HC…
The only reason, and a legit one, that i say this is because of Mr Dick Lebeau, DC of the Pittsburgh Steelers..
Why doesnt anyone ever pursue him? Hes built an awesome D for as long as i can remember, is he not interested? Maybe he loves what he does and knows that hes very good at it…
by sundaysfinest on Dec 31, 2011 3:39 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Nolan - Singeltary what dey up to?
Nolan I think defensive coordinator of Dolphins, right? So what is Dolpins defense rank?
Singeltary I think linebackers coach of Vikings, right? So any Pro-Bowlers in that group?
Wonder if Mike introduced his nut-cracker drill in viking land, lol.
Jimmy Raye…..where is he?
Mike freak’en Martz….that dude cracks me up, gonna get Q.B. killed, he dont care if team has good O-line or not.
Dang , My first car i ever owned just went for 68,000 $ at Barrett-Jackson's ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Unless you count a 1972 Ford Pinto my parents let me use ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
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