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Patrick Willis Injury: When Does Playoff Rest Time Begin, If At All?

The latest news is indicating that San Francisco 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis is reportedly dealing with a grade two hamstring strain that could potentially cost him this week's game against the Arizona Cardinals. Larry Grant filled in ably in place of Willis for 3+ quarters on Sunday so there is not a huge concern for the short term future.

Figuring out issues of rest and injury prevention where possible over the final quarter of the season is an issue to consider. The 49ers hold a one-game lead over the New Orleans Saints with four games to go. Since the two teams did not face off during the regular season, the next tie-breaker is conference record. The 49ers are 8-1 while the Saints are 6-3. If they finished tied in conference record, the next tiebreaker is record against common opponents, so long as there are at least four such opponents. The 49ers hold that tiebreaker. Both teams played the Bucs, Rams, Giants and Lions. The 49ers are undefeated against those teams and the Saints lost to the Bucs and Rams.

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So, given all that nonsense, how do you think the 49ers would be best served handling any potential rest? For arguments sake, say the 49ers beat Arizona and the Saints lose in Tennessee. Do you then be extra cautious and sit Willis against the Steelers? Coach Harbaugh said it will come down to what the trainers say when it comes to his playing status.

With the rest of the team, what is the smart play given that the team conceivably would already have an extra week of rest coming to them once the playoffs start Until the team clinches a bye this is a pretty moot point. But, thanks to their strong play through the first 3/4 of the season, they have put themselves in a position to get a bye locked down fairly early. There is still the chance of catching Green Bay, but in all likelihood they are rolling to that number one seed.

I think there are competing schools of thought with regards to player rest as some think the players should get rested up for the playoffs and others would rather keep a good thing going on the field. I suppose there is plenty of room to do a little bit of both depending on the players.

My thought is to have guys like Frank Gore get some playing time each week, but get them plenty of rest. 13-3 or 14-2 would be potentially awesome records, but once that two seed is locked in, it's all about looking ahead to the playoffs. That is not to say the team should just ignore the remaining games. Part of looking ahead to the playoffs is making sure you keep the team sharp. A team that virtually ignores the final two games could be a very rusty team when they finally are back to taking things seriously.

I suppose this might be a topic better served for a couple weeks from now (or even just next week if things go right on Sunday), but given Patrick Willis' injury, I think it is a very important topic to consider.

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If we can lock up the 2-seed before the end of the season,

playing the starters similar minutes to an average preseason game would make sense to me. You prevent rust by allowing them to play a quarter or two, but then minimize the injury risk by taking them out by halftime.

by BruinMW on Dec 6, 2011 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

this is what I was going to say. If the #2 seed gets locked up, pull any must need player starting the 2nd half and let some of the younger players get some NFL reps. This keeps the starters still active with their minds in game (too much rest can be a bad thing) and gives players that usually wouldn’t get reps some valuable play time to not only develop but in case the team needs them in the playoffs they won’t be as gimpy.

by danknerd49 on Dec 6, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Agree 100%

Get the starters starting and get them staying in the groove, but dont put them in any unnecessary risk.

by slutzy on Dec 6, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless we clinch the #2 seed and home field advantage

No rest. The only time we should see players getting rested is if we’re up 3 TD or more late, like in this last game, or in the TB game. The team will have the whole wild card week to rest up and get healthier.

If we clinch the #2 seed, roll out all the young guns: Boone, Person, Kilgore, Dobbs, Williams, etc. VD and Delanie, Bam Bam, J. Smith, Gore, should all be in sweats if that happens. Alex should still get the start but probably only play the first quarter or two – enough to maintain his rhythm and all that, but Kaep and maybe even Tolzien should see time. Preseason rules, really.

Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."

by See Jay on Dec 6, 2011 9:26 AM PST reply actions  

test

does my sweet new follow button work?

Alex Smith is my homeboy.

Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."

by See Jay on Dec 6, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Before saying Larry Grant is a quality back-up....

can we see the guy play like he did against somebody not named the Rams?

I think I could have done as well as Larry playing against their beat up, limited offense.

Now if Larry had that type of performance against the Steelers…that is something else but why is everyone going gagga over his performance against the Rams?

Larry will get a second shot this Sunday against Cards and maybe even Steelers later….lets see how he does then.

Remember, the Rams did not re-sign him for some reason, right?

by BigMar on Dec 6, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

the Rams are pretty crappy

but they did shellack the Saints a couple weeks back. Jackson is a quality back, and he was limited to 17 yards rushing. The defense didn’t miss a beat even without its star player, AND with someone different wearing the green dot. Plus he had a sack, didn’t he? Overall it was a quality all-around performance. Hopefully Bam-Bam doesn’t miss time, but if he does we’ll see if Grant can keep it up…

Alex Smith is my homeboy.

Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."

by See Jay on Dec 6, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

who did wear the green dot?

"It's impossible to hide the fire inside" - Bob Seger

by Jaxson876 on Dec 6, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Grant

Founder of team Omté Caspeen

by Widowwolf on Dec 6, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

enev though the rams are crappy

Grant did a great job filling in. I would rest Bam Bam this game and see how he is for Pitt. I am quite satified with the back ups that we have. I think they fill in nicely.

by aksnwman on Dec 6, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Grant has starting experience (8 games last season with the Rams)

So its not like he is coming into blind, he always had the ability to play the game the only concern that the Niners had when they drafted him & the Rams last season was that he wasnt heavy enough but he added 25 pounds after he signed so that is no longer a concern. I have faith that the coaches & the guys around him will get him ready for the Cards on Sunday

by Lok on Dec 6, 2011 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

Don't rest players unless they need time to get healthy

Teams that rest their starters the last few regular season games after they’ve locked up a playoff spot ALWAYS come out flat and slow in their first playoff game. That is something that we can’t afford to do because we will be getting a quality opponent at the stick in January.
The ONLY reason I see to rest starters is if the game is a blowout either way.
As far as Willis goes, Grant did well in his place but you can’t replace the best LB in the game. He is a huge part of what this incredible defense is doing this year and we shouldn’t trick ourselves into thinking that anyone else in the NFL can replace bam bam.

Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).

by crumpedup15 on Dec 6, 2011 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

yep

The only (football) teams I can really remember everyone talking about resting starters was the Colts, and every time they would come out weak in the playoff game. Athletes aren’t cars with x gallons of gas in the tank and not driving them simply saves that gas for another time. I’ve never played any sports in an ultra competitive arena, but I can imagine it would be as hard if not way harder to get up for a pro game after sitting as it would to start going back to the gym and diet after a week off and eating junk.

by marinfrs on Dec 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Lock the #2 seed...

Then same as preseason playing time… A few loses help in draft order too…

"You have to reinvent yourself each year, ... What helped us was that there was some turnover each year." Bill Walsh...

by AzNiner on Dec 6, 2011 11:35 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

lol

draft order for us is determined by playoff performance. You want us to get the #2 seed and then lose game to get a better draft pick?

Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).

by crumpedup15 on Dec 6, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

*lose the playoff game

Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).

by crumpedup15 on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

its so exciting to be talking about the playoffs

i really hope we do really well in the playoffs too. im sure coach Harbaugh will not let them be happy just to be there. also we do have plenty of players that have been waiting for so long to get to the playoffs.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

I strongly believe ...

… that we can get to 8-8 this season. For me, that represents progress under Harbaugh after last year’s aberration under Singletary. We can build from 8-8 – it’s a foundation.

I think the Seahawks will likely win the West and I for one look forward to them getting battered in the post-season.

As for all this stuff about the 49ers winning the division, and debating whether we get the first or second seeding, get real. You’re all delusional. It doesn’t compute, and my brain has now switched off.

None of this stuff makes any kind of sense. The 49ers do not go to the play-offs, and certainly not as one of the top two seeds in the NFC.

Oh, and it’s all Alice Smith’s fault. I don’t know what, but whatever it is, it’s on him. I want Carr.

I’m just off for a little lie down.

by LondonNiner on Dec 6, 2011 12:34 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Rest comes in week 18 when we're watching games to see who we play next...

There won’t be any room for rest this season because the Saints have their foot on the gas; we should be doing the same.

by 9thevolution on Dec 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

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