NFL Player Celebrations: Where Do You Stand?
Over the weekend, 49ers safety Dashon Goldson was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct after he grabbed an interception in the third quarter against the Rams. After the interception, Goldson, Carlos Rogers and Larry Grant held out their arms (in the airplane/hawk way Goldson does) and did a modest little dance number. Basically it involved some head and shoulder movement and not much else. However, because it was three guys dancing celebrating together on the field, the flag was thrown.
On the scale over overly exuberant celebrations, that one was pretty far down the scale. For a long time now we've seen plenty of crazy celebrations, with several of Terrell Owens' leading the way. You could say it peaked (or valleyed, depending on your viewpoint) with Stevie Johnson poking fun at Plaxico Burress' legal trouble. Johnson was penalized and Bob Costas used his Sunday Night Football halftime pulpit to decry the end of humanity because of excessive celebrations.
When it comes to player celebrations, plenty of people use the "act like you've been there before" argument for not celebrating after plays. My own view is that I generally have no problems with celebrating after big plays. When you've spent a ton of time preparing and you suddenly find yourself juiced up on adrenaline in front of 70,000 people, who am I to tell you not to celebrate after you blow up a quarterback for a huge third down sack? While I respect Barry Sanders and others for their non-celebration of big plays, not every player acts that way, and I'm alright with that given the emotions involved.
I do see how ridiculous it can get when a player celebrates a first and ten play where he tackles the running back after a three-yard gain. If you're fired up so be it, but that can seem a little over the top I suppose.
The big problem is when you get into a situation that costs your team yards on a penalty as we saw when the 49ers got their unsportsmanlike penalty. 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh was asked about this on Monday:
Talking to some of your players, they showed, especially on defense, some excitement yesterday on the field for the first time. They said they're kids, they want to enjoy, too. What is your message to them, though, as they go into the playoffs, a place where many of them haven't been, to have fun but make sure the celebrations aren't costly. What's your philosophy on that?
"As I told you yesterday, my feelings on celebrations are that they should be spontaneous, not planned out. When it comes to the three guys dancing, that's going to draw a penalty. Get over to the sideline and dance. Dance all you want, really. That's not going to get a penalty. Just being really disciplined when it comes to doing things that might cost your team, that you don't want to do."
How do you feel about celebrations? Given the topic, I figured I'd include an old ESPN rundown when there was some discussion of further bans on end zone celebrations. They banned props, but dancing is still allowed. Sorry about the non-HD quality.
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Allow celebrations...
That’s why it’s called the GAME of football. It’s a game meant to be fun.
by Leoniner on Dec 7, 2011 9:08 AM PST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Yes
See: Ravens, Baltimore, after every defensive stop, 2005-2009.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Agree
But the Ravens are the most egregious offenders. I blame Ray “I stabbed two guys in Atlanta” Lewis.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Work hard = celebrate
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Bob Costas used his Sunday Night Football halftime pulpit to decry the end of humanity
hahahaha
I say the rules now might be a bit too strict, but it seems we’re stuck with it unless they decide to give refs some interpretative capacity in determining what constitutes “over-celebrating” (which will probably lead to more problems, anyways).
Personally, I’m more a fan of European style soccer celebrations. Score and then run around like a crazy man and slide on the grass like its one of those water slide things we all used as kids. Then all your teammates jump on top of you and kiss you – but its not gay ‘cuz they’re European.
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by liberty_JAC on Dec 7, 2011 9:13 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed...
like the icelandic soccer team
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 7, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
how many goals do a soccer game score (on average)?
3- combined score? My point is can you imagine the Raven’s making that kind of team kisses “every time they make a defensive stop” as lottwasgangsta said in this thread? Add on the TDs and I think that is excessive!
some of it is ok, but a lot of it is just dumb
but a lot of it goes too far. all the coordinated/orchestrated/props stuff is dumb. Also, if it isn’t a touchdown, there’s no need for much celebration, i.e., no sack dances. However, the penalties against it are just dumb, too, unless it is excessive to the point that it delays the game or is too “in your face” to the defense.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2011 9:17 AM PST reply actions
I agree
spontaneous seems a lot more acceptable than orchestrated, and after touchdowns, yes, but not after first downs. For sacks, it has to be drive ending, or a HUGE play; and, Jared Allen, your particular celebration looks stupid; find something else.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Delay of Game
Just put a time limit on the celebration, if it goes over 5 seconds give them a delay of game penalty for 5 yards. 15 yards and a 1st down is too much, celebrating is the same penalty as unnecessary roughness.
by jobharve on Dec 7, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I THINK THEY'RE TERRIBLE!!!!
Every single player in the NFL should get a record, and once you’ve gotten a penalty for it, the next step is that you lose a game. On anyone’s third offense, they are done for the season!!!
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I agree that for the most part they are ridiculous but those consequences are a bit extreme. The NFL’s substance abuse policy is more lenient than that.
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by Haggardninja on Dec 7, 2011 9:40 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I was mostly kidding
I think it’s a bit excessive, and a bit ridiculous, but I don’t really mind it.
I think the occasional penalty for when it’s too over the top is fine, but for the most part, I think these are grown men, and should be asked to police themselves when figuring out what is or is not appropriate.
The main thing that bothers me is mandatory sack dances, or too much celebration when they are losing. Only other thing I would add is that when receivers or backs score, they need to acknowledge that 10 other guys did their job- it’s not just because they have godlike powers…
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Then they will be drawn and quartered!
Then the quarters will be quartered and their heads will be set on a pike.
A fish?
No, a spike pike. You know…
A spike pike
totally…
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with Jim
" my feelings on celebrations are that they should be spontaneous, not planned." They have gotten out of hand and are over done. What’s the most absurd is when their team is losing badly late in the game and they celebrate after a play. That probably shows why they’re losing; me first team second.
A list of guys who should be out of the NFL
for excessive celebration:
-Terrell Owens (taken care of)
-Ochocinco
- Stevie Johnson
-Jared Allen
-The Baltimore Ravens
-Dez Bryant
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OK I am the only one
I always thought TO’s celebrations were hilarious! They made me laugh. Everyone hated the running to the Star at Dallas but I was going – oh YEA! Pom Pom dance – LOL!
I will go back to my corner and sit quietly now.
I was just joking
Trying to provoke a reaction.
RE: Owens, I think Teague worked it out perfectly- it was great when Owens did it, and I can’t fault Teague for responding as he did.
Plus, in terms of “excessive celebrations”, I think any rule the NFL comes up with has to have a “but it’s ok if it’s against the Cowboys” clause built into it.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
I know
I am just surprised how many are upset about celebrations. I just re-watched TO’s run to the star – and LOL – there are comments from just days ago. And the comments are funny too.
And I flove the “but its OK if its against the Cowboys”!
I loved TO's celebrations.
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Celebration = Good
Stomping, excessive taunting, and fighting = bad.
There should be a mandatory celebration clause. 15 yard penalty for failing to display the appropriate exhuberation.
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Hate 95% of it
Occasionally it’s funny, but a lot of it is either designed to show up the other team (Stevie Johnson) or just incredibly self-centered. When I become football czar, anybody celebrating a play when their team is losing has to run the stadium steps.
I do like a good touchdown spike, or a big high five among teammates. It’s not a funeral. But a huge part of this is trying to get attention, build a brand, get hits on Youtube, etc. It’s transparent.
I think stadium steps is good
Not a penalty, but they have to do it after the 4th quarter, and be interviewed by reporters as soon as they finish.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
But I would like to add that they should have to do their most elaborate celebratory dance during the interview.
"Hey look over there. Isn't that John Candy?"
This would shut it down real quick
They have to do the same thing that earned the punishment for 20 minutes straight. Some guys would probably drop dead, but most fans would be sick of it real quick.
Maybe I'm under the wrong impression but I thought the penalty was called not because of the celebration on Dashon's part
but that Carlos & Larry joined and we doing a “choreographed” celebration
it was called because 3 people were celebrating
only 2 people at a time
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the penalty
Yea, it was because of all three but Goldson was the one named.
by David Fucillo on Dec 7, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
It was because you can't have 3 people celebrating together.
It’s a really stupid rule.
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I don't really care for too much celebration
Players should enforce themselves. Plant the ball on the Dallas star? You’re gonna get hit and cheap shots are coming your way. If your own teammate is making a spectacle of himself the team should lecture you and embarrass you some way (tied to goal post, get shoes wet, burn their car, whatever) If the players are cool with being shown up or having a me player then I’m not going to get my feathers ruffled
I pretty much concur
Throw the occasional penalty flag when it gets ridiculous, but let it sort itself out, by-in-large; players will hear about it from their teams. I am SURE Stevie Johnson was not a popular man last Monday.
I also think it’s a little more excusable when it’s spontaneous- the flag thrown on Rogers and Goldson on Sunday seemed unnecessary, as I think they were just genuinely excited, and not trying to be bad sports.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Stevie Johnson has to explain his two drops on the last drive
before the penalty. Forget the dance, catch the ball!
the next time smith kills a drive with a sack
I would love to see the whole defense sprint to the sidelines and sit down
Precisely
Although with dudes that large, it would look like the most insane game of musical chairs ever as they converged on the bench….I wouldn’t want to fight Justin Smith for the last seat.
“And Rogers is sacked on 3rd down for the 4th time in the first half, and this NFC championship game is starting to get away from the Green Bay Packers…”
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
my first thought was I'd love that too
but if I was the QB, I’d just rush my guys to the line and run a quick play
by foosball4949 on Dec 7, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Good thinking
Only on 4th down then.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Am I missing something?
I meant if we sacked them on 4th down, in which case they don’t have the option to (fake) punt, and it’s automatically our ball.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
That would be more than three guy and could draw a flag.
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Ok here it is for you pansies
If someone intercepts in front of you, scores on you, sacks your quarterback, dunks over you, and no one gets injured or picks a fight, it’s all for fun. There isn’t any reason to take any of it personally, you get to score, sack, dunk, or whatever next time.
If a guy wants to do a little dance…who cares? It doesn’t mean anything. Even if he’s trying to make fun of your last dance, it’s all in fun. Keyword: Fun.
When some guy is stomping or trying to injure someone, that’s on him – it wrong and he should be kicked out of the game. Fighting needs to be stopped, it doesn’t belong in the sport. But the dances are harmless.
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It’s been a long hard road for most of these guys and they never gave up, they never stopped working their butts off. They should be celebrating…
I think penalizing celebrations is a weenie thing to do.
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Players ought to be allowed
to “celebrate” with in reason, I just think a lot of people find it stupid. I find some of the extravagent endzone dances amusing, but I think most are in poor taste, and I’d prefer not to see it.
Just like in the NBA, the constant showboating and me-me celebrating is exhausting and takes away from the experience, along with the constant bitching to the refs. They should be allowed to do it (I guess), and be penalized for doing it “excessively”…
Well Said
Pat! I agree completely !
Some sound like they would like a golf clap after scoring. And soon there will be guys on the sidelines holding up QUIET signs when the offense is on the field.
Could they throw a flag
If, after our offense scores, the entire defense on the sideline were to politely golf clap? Cause now that you mention it, that would be hilarious.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
On the fence
I like the touchdown or other big play celebrations, especially the funny, original stuff coming from Ocho and TO.
I dislike that after every play, someone has to dance, run upfield 10 yards or other such ridiculousness.
EXCESSIVE CELEBRATION
is horsepuckey. Let the players do whatever they want, as long as it doesn’t delay the game. Football is filled with downtime, what do I care if some dude wants to prance around for a few seconds.
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I get tired of guys dancing and posing after a simple stop or 5 yard catch.
I keep seeing that douche bag Holly at the end of the Cowboys game, not only did he fall to his knees and raise his arms wanting people to praise him….he did it for about 30 seconds and then like a true ass, he ran to the side line and did it again….he did it so long the FG had been kicked and the post game was finished before he got up.
Aldon has a TRUE celebration…not the one where he ran to the bench, but his regular one. He runs to the camera and stands tall with his arms by his side but out a bit and has a look at me stance.
I think they should even be able to do group celebrations... as long as it doesn't delay the game too long.
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Group celebrations for scores since they have to check the replay of the score anyway!
by David Fucillo on Dec 7, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly...
I always loved the grenade celebrations from Any Given Sunday
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That and the machine gun
among the all-time best.
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by lottwasgangsta on Dec 7, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely for scores, but to compromise
with the old guard who dislike the celebrations, maybe add that they can only celebrate in the area of the end zone – no more T.O. Dallas Star. It was awesome when he first did it, but that’s enough of that.
Celebrations would give us fans even more to look forward to, wondering how each team will try to top the others so they’re included in the top celebrations of the week highlights. Why wouldn’t the NFL want something that could add another dimension to the game that male/female/old/young fans alike would enjoy?
I like cam newtons and aaron rodgers belt move
They’re quick but cool
by MNY49 on Dec 7, 2011 10:55 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Football is a Game.
Games are meant to be fun. Dancing with friends (or teammates) is meant to be fun.
Do I think there’s a place for taunting? No. But celebrating with a dance should be fine. If you direct anything at the opponent, you should be penalized. Doing a little dance with teammates isn’t taunting or “unsportsmanlike.” There’s a fine distinct line between celebrating and rubbing it in the opponents face. Dancing with teammates is not rubbing it in their face. It is not a taunt, and it should not be penalized as one. But if you dance AT an opponent or get in their face after a play, you’re being a punk and should be punished.
Also, the idea that synchronized dancing is always planned is ludicrous. For example: If a player forces a turnover and starts a dance and two teammates come and copy it, how is that NOT spontaneous? The NFL makes this “spontaneous” argument that holds absolutely no water. They take themselves too seriously.
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what about the argument that
any sustained amount of celebration delays the game?…Pretend that the booth didn’t need to review scores like in the past…the flow/speed of the game should not be interfered with for any circumstances. The ball should be made available to the official right away just like on any other play, and the official should immediately place the ball on the 3 yard line and the play clock should start for the extra point. It’s like the BS “time” taken between pitches in baseball. Nothing should interfere with the speed of the game. Celebrate on the sideline if you have to…
Uh, easy: Delay of game.
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but they don't call delay of games...
the ball is used as a prop for 20-30 secs sometimes. Why is that kind of delay OK after a score but not after any other play?…
If they want to dance through the next play- let them
They’re going to get burned. Just start the next play without them. If they hold onto or take the ball out of play it —Delay Of Game—
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"Pretend that the booth didn’t need to review scores like in the past"
The point you make after this sentence is moot since they do review scores now, so there wouldn’t be much of an interruption. How can you base an argument on a pretend situation? And in all my time watching games, I don’t recall a celebration that lasted 20-30 seconds, except for Rod Tidwell in Jerry Mcguire and maybe T.O. and the Dallas Star. Hell, the Lambeau Leap takes longer than most celebrations, but that’s tradition and probably won’t ever be banned.
the only celebrations that really bug me
are when a team is down 2 TD’s and a guy makes a tackle on 2nd and 10 or something then jumps up celebrating like he just won the game. If your team is losing, even by as little as a FG, you have no business celebrating anything other then a TD or a turnover.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Really
If we are losing to GB by a FG and Dashon swats down a 3rd down pass that changes momentum in our favor, I am going to celebrate, yell, scream, and do a little dance. Why is this a problem.
In fact, if Aldon lays a big hit on Rodgers and he gets up a little gingerly, even if he completes the short gainer to Driver, I am going to be hollering at the top of my lungs.
It's not a problem if you do it, your a fan
I’m talking about players doing it.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Why is it OK for me as a fan to get fired up
But the guys on the field have to be statues.
Personally, when I played, I subscribed to the old school mentality and I did not do that stuff. But there are definitely times I ran down the field when we scored a TD to pick a guy up and celebrate in the end zone for a few seconds. There are some plays that simply change momentum in a game and you can FEEL it.
I do get tired of seeing guys do the big arrow point after every first down, or the silly sack dances, but that is me and my preference. If that helps get a guy and his teammates jacked up… so be it. How jacked do you think the Niners were when Justin Smith sealed the deal with that strip in the Eagles game? Why shouldn’t they be allowed to hoot, holler, and generally celebrate.
never said the players should be statues
All I said was I have a problem with players celebrating trivial things when their team is losing big. I enjoy when a guy celebrates a TD or a big play that changes the course of a game, but celebrating a sack on 2nd down when your team is losing by 20 points in the 4th quarter just looks stupid.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
I remember last year week 1 in Seattle.
We were down by like 20 in the 4th quarter and Travis LaBoy got a sack and did the robot.
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No problem with them
As long as its not rediculous and out of line to the point where you look like a fool and hurt your team in the process. But still let them get a little celebration in, like you said they put a lot of hard work during the season. Its not very easy to score a TD, let them celebrate a little if they do.
If I were the NFL BNK (that's Behavior Nazi King) my rules would be simple ...
If you celebrate as a team (i.e., at least 3 plays celebrating together) … no harm, no foul, no penalty.
If you celebrate as an me-first individual, flaunting your own personal thing … you’re busted!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Dec 7, 2011 4:29 PM PST reply actions
Celebrate The Win
Theoretically you should be giving it your all on every down. Are you going to celebrate after every play? To me it’s self-aggrandizing. You did your job. Now you pat yourself on the back for the world to see? I can see an immediate, spontaneous physical reaction like jumping in the air, or a fist pump. Maybe a hard handshake and a slap on the back… But if you’re fighting someone and you knock them down, do you do a little dance? That’s it. The whole country is turning into the WWE. Just my opinion. I couldn’t care less what people do or why. I don’t think arrogance should be penalized if it doesn’t affect the outcome of the game.
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People don’t like me," Rice said, in reference to his lack off endorsements. "I guess because I don’t have an air about myself. I don’t have a dance in the end zone. I’m too conservative.
“I might spike one every now and then, but you’ll never see me rub it in. A long, long time ago at Philadelphia, this defensive back had talked so much noise to me, and we’d gotten into it. I scored and turned around and spiked the ball in his face, and that was the last time I did that. I thought about it, and I said to myself, ‘Well, Jerry, you achieved what you wanted, you didn’t need to do that.’ "
But there is only ONE Jerry Rice
What gets him pumped and excited is not necessarily the same for everyone. Football is a game filled with emotion. If Whitner laying a big hit on a guy gets the other guys going on D and shift momentum our way… I don’t care. If Vernon would ever run somebody over with that huge body of his, I am sure that more than one guy will be hooting and hollering.
I have no problem with spontaneous celebration
I don’t view rehearsed and pre-planned routines as spontaneous expressions of joy. They are calculated and therefore not spontaneous. As I said, I also have no problem with arrogance, boasting, or haughtiness. It’s a reflection of society’s values. So be it.
celebrations are fine
as long as they dont get out of control, or are just down right awesome…Aldon smith im talking about you big fella, sprinting at the bench and sitting down now thats a celebration, mocking, and a way to get around the flag

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