Alex Smith, Steve Young Provide Talking Points On 49ers Offense
Alex Smith chatted with the media before practice yesterday and a good chunk of the discussion centered around some of the issues with the offense. The two most notable points were the red zone struggles and the incomplete passes that sailed on passes down the sideline. As he pointed out, the team is 10-2 but they are still just scratching the surface of where they can be as an offense. These mistakes take some time to clean up, but the upside is looking pretty impressive, the more time they have together.
This is all particularly pertinent in light of Steve Young's comments on the Razor & Mr. T Show on KNBR yesterday. Young goes on the show every week to chat about all things football. When he discusses the 49ers, he often has a certain fan vibe to his comments as he is getting excited about the team's development. He acknowledges some of the issues we've seen with the offense, but he also recognizes the tremendous upside of the offense.
In his appearance yesterday, Young discussed how he would love to see the team use some no-huddle in these remaining games to see how the offense can execute:
I'd love to see something that felt like, ‘Man, we're behind by 14, what do we do?' Just kind of react as if it was happening. I think you've got to test the boundaries of what the offense can do because at some point if you're going to win deep into January you figure you're going to be tested that way, so why not kind of practice that? Maybe open up the game in no-huddle. Maybe give Alex a little more ability to throw the ball downfield.
Running no-huddle when you're early in the game or playing with a lead isn't quite the same as forcing it down 14, but there is tremendous value in working that into the game plan at some point over these final four games. The team needs wins to secure the first round bye, but there are still opportunities to "explore the studio space." It will be interesting to see if the team tries that out or keeps a lot of its remaining tricks in the bag.
QB Alex Smith
Press Conference - December 7, 2011
San Francisco 49ers
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Offensive Coordinator Greg Roman said the other day that the red zone was sort of the last thing to come together in an offense, do you feel like that's still forming with this offense? Is that an area that can improve?
"I certainly hope so. No question. The situational football, I think, are obviously the last things that you continue to get better at and the last things to kind of hone in on. No question, obviously there's room for improvement. We've left a lot of points on the field in the red zone, especially these last handful of weeks. So no question room for improvement, need to improve, and we will. But that's an encouraging thing, we're still doing a lot of good things. Not playing our best where it matters most down there in the red zone. So, need to get better, I think obviously a lot to be taken advantage of."
When you say room for improvement though, is it calling different plays, is it more technique, I mean what are you seeing the past couple of games?
"Yeah, I think all of the above. No question. You'd have to look at execution for sure. Just executing down there, we've left a lot of good plays out there and haven't finished and haven't executed. But no question, obviously just plays, scheme, all that stuff kind of goes into it."
Why or how is the game different first and goal from the eight as opposed to first and 10 from the 45?
"The field is just so much smaller. You're only operating with a limited space down there. So, it's obviously the windows are smaller, timing has to be better, the spacing has to be better, all of the above. The running windows are tighter. The safeties are that much closer to run support. So, all of those things come into effect down there. You just really have to be on the ball as far as executing. In the pass game, balls have to get turned loose down there. You've got to trust what you see and then the windows are smaller. All that stuff. So, all of it comes into play."
Despite all that, you're 10-2, and you've won a division. So, what does that say and how does that make you feel?
"Yeah, I've said this before, in a lot of ways it still can be frustrating, but it's encouraging. I've said this, I think we're still just kind of scratching at it, what we can become. And we're doing some good things in the meantime, but still I think, still kind of forming and becoming what our potential is. That's encouraging as well that we just need to continue to keep getting better these last few weeks, each and every week taking a step, and red zone's one of those areas."
We were just talking with Coach Harbaugh about WR Kyle Williams, you worked out with him in the offense, talk about his improvement and him taking advantage of his opportunities.
"Yeah, I don't think any of us that have been around Kyle are shocked at all. This isn't a surprise to any of us. He does it every single day on the practice field. Any time he seems to get a chance he makes plays. He worked his tail of this offseason. He was out there every day. So, not really a surprise, I think he's just a prime example of a guy that has just continued to work and wait for his opportunity. And finally got a little window and he hasn't let go of it. The guy's just made the most of it and that's what you've got to have. I think all good teams have that because injuries are going to happen and you need the next guy to step up and Kyle's been that for us."
Alex, I asked you about throwing deep passes a few weeks ago, on Sunday you were on point with them, especially over the middle of the field to WR Michael Crabtree and TE Vernon Davis. You didn't link up with the ones toward the sidelines to WR Ted Ginn Jr., is there a difference on those throws toward the middle?
"Yeah, just different types of throws. The ones down the middle are play action. The ones on the sideline were there were kind of the two-minute drill at the end of half, and we're getting-dropping eight guys, and they're playing coverage. So, different types of throws, obviously still down the field, but much different categories as far as in my head. But almost one of those, the couple to Ted, I'm just sailing. Didn't have clean vision on him and kind of sailing. There at the end of the half, when you're in a two-minute drill at the end of half, you're trying to get what you can, but obviously you're not going to force things, make the mistakes and give the ball back. Obviously would like to hit those, but it's just kind of educated sails, I'm going to miss it out of bounds."
On the one to Vernon, at what point do you see the defensive tackle bearing down on you?
"I didn't really. I was locked on the safety the whole way. We've kind of had it all week and thought how we were going to have it turn out, and the safety stayed backside and Vernon ended up just running right by him. I kind of caught that the last minute and just put it up over his head. Really wasn't until watching the tape the next day that I even felt the color. Didn't even notice it out there, I guess."
But you did, I think threw it and you did sort of take cover a little bit?
"Yeah, I guess, I watched it on the film and I didn't even realize I did it. So, you're kind of locked in downfield, you throw it, you see flashes of color in your face. I do remember kind of not being able to see what happened. I threw it and I'm trying to get vision of what happened and then just heard the crowd."
Three weeks ago you guys played Arizona, what did you like about the matchup of Crabtree vs. CB Patrick Peterson?
"He's a talented young corner, extremely talented. The guy does a lot and makes a lot of plays. They match him up, especially these last few weeks, against the opponent's top guy. It was no different when we played and him matching up with Michael. I remember after that game, obviously we watched the film, and Crabtree was sparking us all day, just seemed to spark us. For me, I think, really lifted us as an offense. Just kept continuing to make plays and when he was one-on-one, winning. So, I'm sure they both remember that and will be ready to go on Sunday. I anticipate, obviously, those two matching up."
Is he different these last couple of weeks than he was earlier just because he's gotten healthier and healthier?
"Yeah, a few different things, for sure just getting back healthy. Anytime you miss camp and you're coming in late and he's trying to go off the injury, you're still just catching up with the offense and how comfortable he is and understanding things. So, all that I think leads to just playing faster and knowing what you're doing. He's doing that right now, playing at a high level."
Different feeling this week knowing you're in the playoffs as you prepare?
"Yeah, a little different but at the same time these are still really meaningful games, division games. We played these first three division games all at home. Now we've got these chunks on the road. Going into Arizona, they've won four of their last five. I think we all recognize that and see that. Just beat a good Dallas team. So, a little different but at the same time no less pressure. These games are all big."
Did you ever run the fly sweep before this year?
"No, no, not that I can remember. In college, not in the NFL."
Does that take a while to develop?
"Well, in college you don't have the speed on defense that you have in the NFL, especially sideline to sideline. So, it's very rare to see it successful at least. Ted's a special guy and the guys up front are doing a great job, but obviously Ted's running ability makes it go."
Alex, what does it say about TE/LS Brian Jennings that he's survived as a long snapper with the same franchise for a dozen years, you know 12 years, and he's still the only one left from the last playoffs?
"He just consistently does his job. Long snapper is one of those positions if you're name ever usually gets said it's a bad thing. You're just expected to do your job out there and that's it, and he does that. He takes so much pride in it, in doing his job and how he goes about it, just a model of consistency."
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I agree with the sentiment
There will always be a kind of virtual ceiling on the offense until they are willing to play closer to the edge. This is the same as the Ravens and Jets.
Teams that play it close to the vest will always struggle to break through that ceiling, no matter how much talent they amass. At some point they have to be willing to throw balls into dangerous windows, or throw timing routes where the receivers haven’t turned around yet, or throw straight at a receiver who is covered by someone with their back turned, or just covered by someone who is bad.. and the receivers have to be willing to play defender if needs be.
Teams like the Ravens, Falcons and the 49ers, they like open receivers moving into open space. It’s a tough ask to get 25 of those a game.
by whistlingmountain on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Being who you are is ( Not ) playing it close to the vest ...
… just because Young thinks they need to get into some type hurry up Offense doesn’t mean they should , it’s the contra , they need to keep doing the same , grinding out ( First downs ) control the clock and keep pounding the rock …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
No offense...
…but that makes no sense. We can agree to disagree re the merits of mindlessly pounding the rock. But saying “it’s not who we are” is a terrible argument against doing something. I believe we have the talent to do more on offense. And I also believe we will need to exploit every last bit of that potential to go far in the playoffs.
Too true.
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Young Has A Great Point
We all know what the Harbaugh 49ers are about, but there comes a time when you may be 20 points behind and ball control simply wont do it. If they get ahead in a game, I think they absolutely should practice no-huddle so it can at least be an option. It could come in handy against the better teams if the defense should slip.
I still remember the 2004 SB where the ball control Panthers played the Patriots. One of the best SB’s, the Panthers shocked everyone with a pass-happy offense and just barely lost. Point is, have a strategy, but prepare plan B.
Not sure , but i think that's what ( Pratice is for ) ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Knowing how paranoid Harbaugh is , don't think he wants it on tape for other teams to see ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Red Zone Frustration
The Niners have left a ton of points on the field. Beyond the Red Zone, execution has been an issue all season. Missed throws, blocks and dropped balls have made people scratch their head and wonder. I don’t even want to bring up the drive killing penalties! Oh the concern!
I think most of this comes from people seeing the unrealized potential of the offense. I don’t think the Niners need to ‘open up’ the playbook as much as they need to sharpen their execution. Once they accomplish this, the touchdowns in the redzone will come and all of this ‘concern’ will be forgotten.
There's some truth to this...
…but the Niners’ offense has been pretty mediocre even when you exclude red zone performance.
I'm glad steve young thinks we have the rest of this year to "play"n toy
around with this offense i think he may be a little to much invested in the 49ers n thats not a bad thing he is a ex-niner n HOFamer but were trying 2 get home field over the saints n if we start toying n playing around in this offense we may lose a game were not supposed 2. If it happens thats cool or if were up really big thats cool 2 but 2 just open up doing things that doesn’t go with the flow of the game we could possibly lose a game or get somebosy injured, i do agree we shoild open the offense up some but let it come in the flow of the game not lets start coming out jim kelly style n start flinging it everywhere out the shotgun offense.
by Jayubb415rebirth on Dec 8, 2011 8:12 AM PST reply actions
Using numbers (2) instead of letters (to),
Makes commets harder “2” read. And it only saves the writer on key stroke.
I agree with young
why not practice it now ’cause we all know practice makes perfect …well sort off
Hasn't Alex generally shined when running hurry up in the 4th quarter?
I’d say you stick with what works until it doesn’t and your hand is forced. If anything, you run the hurry up against the Steelers; the game we are most likely to lose for the rest of the year. We can only afford to slip up once in the next 4 games, so make sure you play to win against the 3 easier teams.
Alex has been great at running the no huddle...
…which is precisely why I’d like to see them use it more. Change speeds like a great pitcher does.
But I disagree with the sentiment you stick with what works until it doesn’t. Unless you practice doing something different in game situations, you won’t be prepared to make the change when you really need, too.
If there's a game I'd like to see us win,
it’s pittsburgh. statement game.
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
Steve young should look at the eagles game if he won't to see us down 14pts
i understand where young is coming from n out of all the old 49ers on tv i may say he’s more giddy about where they are now,but we can’t just toying with the offense unless it comes with the natural flow of the game.Weve wrapped up the division but we still need to keep winning games we can’t fault our deffense because their so good that we rarely get down by much( thats a good problem lol)
by Jayubb415rebirth on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 AM PST reply actions
I listen to Young whenever I can, but he'll never be a good coach..ever
His idea of using hurry-up offense just for the heck of it is not a good one.
Harbaugh has a plan that he’s executing. That includes hand-holding the passing game until everyone gets on board, particularly the O-Line and receivers. He’s slowly but steadily increased the number of pass plays per game (until the game has been decided), as well as the number of plays calling from medium to deep throws. In the process, Harbaugh has accounted for the strengths of the players. He’s not trying to push through plays before the offense is ready to execute them. Harbaugh’s approach has worked. It has build up confidence in the players, especially between Alex and . Niners passing game is now better than what it was 4 games ago, and it will be better, and with more wrinkles, four games from now.
Who said anything about doing it for "the heck of it"?
This is something that might help us win and that Alex has shown he’s proficient at doing. I just don’t see the down side to practicing a no huddle in game situations.
Based on everything Harbaugh has done this year...
… all of which has demonstrated an amazing mastery of the game of football and the task of coaching it… I’m going to guess he’s way ahead of Steve Young and us, is very well aware of what his offense needs to excel in the post-season, and is already preparing for it. More than a few players (ASmith, Gore, VDavis, Edwards) have suggested – which seemed less like vague optimism and more like actual knowledge – that there is more to the offense than has been shown. That suggests to me there is more to come, and there are more tricks left in Harbaugh’s bag. His football intelligence and the players’ hints tell me they’re going to be ready. Whether or not they execute when the bullets start flying remains to be seen, but I don’t think they’ll fail because they didn’t anticipate the need to open up the offense.
Agree with this a lot.
For the first time in a long time I actually trust our head coach and his staff to not only perceive the problems, but respond to them appropriately. Even Walker said the offense is barely tapping into what they could do – and it wasn’t said in a cocky manner; it was just stated matter-of-factly with a blank face.
Can’t wait for the playoffs! Plus I think Harbaugh really is trying to hide whatever he can for the post-season. Use that rookie head coach thing to your advantage as long as possible.
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Disagree with Young
Definitely one of the best Niners of all time, but these statements are from a fans perspective and really don’t make a whole lot of sense. All of you for doing something like this are crazy. Why would you want to tip your hat on your 2 minute drill before the playoffs? We have plenty of time to practice this at practice. I am sure Alex is getting comfortable running the 2 minute drill against the best defense in the NFL at practice. Assuming he is executing in practice I think he will be okay in a game.
Defensively too.....
I get the feeling that there is also an elaborate blitz package that we’ve yet to see. The defense has been getting it done all year with 3 and 4 man rushes. What confusion would ensue when Vic busts out some of his own blitz magic!
But I digress….there have been some prime opportunities for the niners to run a ‘hurry-up’ offense this year, and i often wonder why not. I can’t help but think that the over all game plan is to keep the defense off the field as long as possible, with the lack of rotation along the DLine, and with all the emphasis our defensive success pins on their ability to get penetration.

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