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Ben Roethlisberger Injury: We'll See If It Is Really A High Ankle Sprain

The San Francisco 49ers have plenty to deal with this weekend against the Arizona Cardinals, but it is worth noting the results from last night's Thursday Night Football contest between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cleveland Browns. The Steelers managed an ugly 14-3 win, but the bigger news was Ben Roethlisberger suffering an ankle injury and playing the entire second half with it.

After the game, Steelers head coach declared that Roethlisberger had a high ankle sprain. If it is indeed a high ankle sprain, he realistically would miss the 49ers game as those sprains often take a minimum of two weeks to heal, if not more. He has eleven days thanks to the time between TNF and MNF, but even still, it would normally seem unlikely.

Roethlisberger did play on the ankle last night, but given how adrenaline can kick in, I can see how that might be possible. If he is good to go next week I might call BS on the high ankle sprain diagnosis, but I suppose we will just have to wait and see. It is worth noting that Peter King spent some time in the Steelers locker room after the game and tweeted that Roethlisberger could barely walk.

It is also worth noting that center Maurkice Pouncey suffered an ankle injury as well. It sounded briefly like Tomlin lumped him in with Roethlisberger in terms of a high ankle sprain, but upon further review, I think it was just a normal ankle sprain based on the way the words were tossed around by Mike Tomlin.

While removing those two from the equation weakens the Steelers, I'll take the wins however the 49ers can get them. There is some talk about people making excuses if the 49ers beat the Steelers without Roethlisberger. As far as I'm concerned, who cares. All that matters is getting that first round bye.

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The Steelers remain a strange team to me

They seem to vacillate between an average, if not mediocre, team when they can’t connect on the deep ball.. to a flat out dominant team when they can.

49ers will probably play their corners back as per usual, rush 4 guys, shut down the run game.. and force the Steelers to go on 10+ play drives with lots of sound 5-7 yard routes.

They’ve only allowed more than 20 points once ( 23, to the Ravens ) since their week 1 blowout. Harrison and Woodley will probably get at least half a dozen shots on Alex. Hopefully offense plays well this week and goes into that game with some confidence … and preparedness ( unlike the Ravens game ).

by whistlingmountain on Dec 9, 2011 7:40 AM PST reply actions  

also, agree
if the 49ers beat the Steelers without Roethlisberger. As far as I’m concerned, who cares. All that matters is getting that first round bye.

A win is a win. They need the 2 seed. They need to get the bye and host the divisional game, no matter who it is against.

This game is not going to change fan or media perception no matter the outcome. It’s reached the point where everyone has been convinced they are a legit 10-12 win team ( even if the record will be slightly padded by nfc west ), but very few think they are a super bowl threat and it’s not because of the Steelers. It’s because of the Packers, and to a lesser degree the Saints.

by whistlingmountain on Dec 9, 2011 7:43 AM PST reply actions  

Thirded.

People are gonna make excuses for the Niners no matter who they beat, and in what fashion. Might as well take what we can get.

Besides, it’s not our defense that needs to legitimize itself by facing Roethlisberger; it’s our offense (read: offensive line) that needs to show up against one of the best defenses in the league and put up 30 points or something awesome like that.

So it doesn’t really matter if Roethlisberger plays or not. Their defense will play the same and a win is a win is a win. The bye is more important than getting national recognition. Our time for that is coming…

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by liberty_JAC on Dec 9, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

still hard to imagine he played through this

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 9, 2011 7:55 AM PST reply actions  

Drugs are a magical thing.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Heck

After seeing Romo tear our secondary a new one after taking those drugs for his broken ribs…perhaps they do more than kill pain lol

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

yep it was that

“shot of……adrenaline” yea thats what it was………….
I would rather beat a healthy Pittsburg but we have no control over injuries so we play the team that shows up on game day.

by Beamer1960 on Dec 9, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

wasn't the original twist

it was the last twist to the ground. I thought he had, at best, a really bad ankle sprain. Turns out that is what he had I guess. We’ll see when the MRI comes back if there was any damage to the ligaments.

I think he’ll inject up and play, but his play will suffer because this is real ( some of his past injuries have been immediately fake, hobble hobble sprint sprint sprint ). He relies heavily on moving around to get 2-3 extra seconds for his speed guys to get open-open.

It’s a really big injury, if they had been playing a non-inept offensive team last night they’d have lost.

by whistlingmountain on Dec 9, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Steelers are my other team

long story.

But, it’s worth noting that they went 3-1 last year when B.R. was suspended for his…extra-curricular activities (read: sexual assault). They will still be good, it’s still a nationally televised game, and something tells me he might play.

That said, Leftwich, their primary backup, broke his arm during pre-season, and Batch struggled last night, but I think can be prepared over the next 11 days.

They are a team that absolutely plays to the level of their competition most of the time- they look great by beating strong teams, and yet weak teams hang around way too long. I think we get their best effort, and I think we give them ours. Plus, if both Willis and Big Stupid miss that game, it sort of evens out.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 8:28 AM PST reply actions  

long story...

you can’t root for 2 of the following teams
49ers, Packers, Steelers, Cowboys

It is FORBIDDEN. You can respect their high level of play, but you can not root for one 5 super bowl wining team in one conference and one 6 super bowl winning team in the other.

Their defense can definitely carry them to some degree without Roethlisberger, but I’d say that is a bottom 5,6,7 offense without him.

by whistlingmountain on Dec 9, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Slightly disagree

I do despise the Steelers and their legions of bandwagon fans who have never lived anywhere near Pittsburgh.

The Cowboys represent all that is evil, are an abomination, and seeing them lose a game will bring a smile to my face under any circumstances.

Since he who’s name will not be mentioned left the Packers though, I don’t hate the Packers. I would root for the Packers against the Steelers or Cowboys any day. Though I would love to see the Niners role into a freezing Lambeu Field in January and beat the hell out of them (a la ’88 championship game against Chicago).

by jns8049ers on Dec 9, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

This

Since Wranglers Mcdicktext left Green Bay, I’ve found that my hate for them has dissipated.

For the most part, I would root for them against most teams, and I met Aaron Rodgers back in the day, and he seemed like a solid human being in addition to being an excellent QB. Cowboys are evil, and I will never like them. I hated the Steelers for 25 years, and then something significant changed, def not of the bandwagon variety.

However, with the Packers, I ABSOLUTELY agree with you that it would be beautiful to beat the absolute hell out of them and their pretty aerial attack on a muddy, wet, lousy day at Lambeau. 200+ rushing yards between our three backs, a defensive masterpiece led by Willis and Smith, and a muddy, dejected Rodgers when the clock winds down…

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I would cry if that happened.

Rodgers ends the day with less than 60% completion percentage. One touchdown; two interceptions; a fumble. And snow falls on Lambeau field as the Niners win the NFC.

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by liberty_JAC on Dec 9, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

IT could be like the end of Citizen Kane

Except, you know, about football, and withthe Niners appearing in the Super Bowl.

So, not that much like Citizen Kane, except for the falling snow, and maybe the cameras could zoom in on Rodgers as he shed a single, solitary tear, that soon froze.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

And our old school, well-rounded, complete team conquering over Rodgers’ pretty passing game will be revolutionary in the football world and college football players will have to watch the game 1,000 times until they’re sick of hearing their coaches talk about how important it was to the development of professional football.

Something like that…

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by liberty_JAC on Dec 9, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It's funny

Singletary wanted to reset offensive football 20 years, and it didn’t work.

Then, we got the cerebral guy from Stanford, and simply because we have the personnel for it, that’s what he went with, and it’s working.

I love it, and I am a bit worried about how it will look in January, but EXCITED AS HELL THAT OUR TEAM IS GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS!

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Nicely done.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

obviously when these teams play, you can root one way or the other

I meant in general. You shouldn’t go into the season going, “Steelers are my AFC team”.. but yes I rooted for Green Bay last super bowl, and I rooted for the Steelers against the Cowboys in the 90s.

by whistlingmountain on Dec 9, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I will take your suggestions about who I should root for

And give them the consideration they deserve.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

No truer statement has ever been made...
The Cowboys represent all that is evil, are an abomination, and seeing them lose a game will bring a smile to my face under any circumstances.

In Harbaugh We Trust.

by SoDak9er on Dec 9, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought this rule was understood by everyone.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Dec 9, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's not forget that the Steelers might just be without Harrison for this game...

after yet another incredibly cheapshot illegal hit. I’m sure it will just be a fine, but the guy really should be suspended; if not for the hit, for just generally being a jerk.

by 9thevolution on Dec 9, 2011 8:32 AM PST reply actions  

So long as doesn't pull the same hits against our guys...

The 49ers are no darling to the NFL, and if Crabtree or AleX gets carted off the field, it will be extremely crippling – to us anyways. Probably needs to be someone like Brady going down before the NFL shows Harrison the door for a few games, which is frustrating.

Personal fear – the Niners taking severe injuries right now (particularly on offense), and the 1st round bye will mean little in the end. Play out the string, and pray for a healthy result PLUS the bye.

Make it so.

by Ranger10 on Dec 9, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I get your concern

And most years, would feel the same way.

This year though, I’m not sure that WE aren’t the more physical team, and PIT is banged up as all hell right now.

As to Harrison, Staley can just hold him all game; after his most recent performance, the refs won’t throw flags for the most part.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm wondering who we could use for retaliation if Harrison does his usual...

Take up a collection from the rest of the team to cover the fine for blatant headhunting. Goldson might be good for it, but I think we’ll need him to actually play, not get ejected.

by asleepinSF on Dec 9, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Whether Rothlisberger plays...

is irrelevant to me (in regards to what I want to see from the team).

I know the defense is solid. They’ve performed well against Flacco, Vick, Stafford, Romo and Eli. I can’t see Rothlisberger (especially a hobbled one) showing me anything more out of this defense than I’ve already seen.

What I want to see is red zone production. I want to see the offense produce against the Steelers’ defense.

So, from that standpoint, I couldn’t care less if Rothlisberger sits or plays injured beyond how it may or may not affect the Niners’ chances of winning.

by smathis on Dec 9, 2011 8:48 AM PST reply actions  

An interesting question??

Will James Harrison be suspended for the hit on Colt McCoy? I know NFL is on this guy like a hawk,with his prior history.

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 9, 2011 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

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Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 9, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't believe some people were trying to defend that hit

He’s clearly leading with his head and hits McCoy in the chin. Very dangerous hit and NOT the proper way to tackle.

Notice how Willis never gets flagged for hits because he always tackles square with his SHOULDERS. Harrison deserves to be fined for hitting McCoy pretty late, and leading with his helmet right into McCoy’s chin. Stupid tackle.

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by liberty_JAC on Dec 9, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Horrible excuse for a tackle

He’s not even using his arms to bring down the offensive player.

by t p on Dec 9, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

SUSPEND HARRISON

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

Magic number For bye week (4 for Saints 2 for Cowboys) For NFC West division title 0 (NFC WEST CHAMPIONS)

by manraj7 on Dec 9, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The QB who shall not be named

It gets inconvenient at times to type that out. Thus, I propose we need a consensus nickname for him, because apparently even in “retirement”, he can’t stay out of football news, and TQBWSNBN is a pretty silly acronym.

I suggest Wranglers McDicktext, but I am open to other ideas. What are your thoughts, Niners Nation, on how we should refer to our least favorite Southerner?

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

That might be the best nickname ever.

Alex Smith Will Win a Superbowl
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by liberty_JAC on Dec 9, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I like it

But I am confident that there is an even better one out there, and hopeful that someone will share it with us. Plus, the fact that it abbreviates to WMD makes him sound kinda cool, and we don’t want that.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I like it

not sure I get it?

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Dec 9, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We weren't that good at the beginning of the season.

I think a lot of people forget how noticeably this team improved each week at the beginning of the season. Against Seattle, the Niners were a crap team who barely beat another crap team. Against the Cowboys, they were much better, but you could still see a lot of the flaws from past years. Against the Bengals, they were still better, but still kind of crappy; barely winning. It wasn’t until the second half against the Eagles and then the Bucs game that they really started looking like a real quality team.

by jns8049ers on Dec 9, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but you can have busted ribs/punctured lung and still run...

…whereas Ben can breathe without pain, but he’s about as mobile as a lamppost.

by NinerEd on Dec 9, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t aware that an OT loss counts as a whooping.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Dec 9, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we can kick the Steelers butt with or without Roethlisberger

Maybe I mean to say, whether he’s healthy or not. I’m kinda hoping he’ll play though , I’m interested to see him get matched up with our defense.

Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh

by El Dorado on Dec 9, 2011 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

If Rothes plays

he’ll regret it. their OL is so porous in pass protection that he’s bound to take at least one hit from either Brooks or Justin. Either one of those guys will make Ben head back to the locker room in a hurry.

by t p on Dec 9, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Rapethlisberger has always been a faker

Any little boo-boo he plays it up, limps like a girl and then, SURPRISE, plays as if he isn’t injured. Because he’s not. At least to the extent that he plays it up when he’s writhing on the ground like a female dog.

God I hate that guy.

by Joe Como on Dec 9, 2011 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

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