My 2011 NFL Mock Draft: Entire 7 Round 49ers Mock.
This article will focus on my 1st round 2011 NFL Mock Draft, and all seven rounds of the 49ers 2011 mock. I decided to post this on the front page to give all you on Niners Nation another perspective outside of Drew's great draft discussions. To continue to the discussion over there click here.
As you all know, our 49ers have the 7th pick in April's draft, which is quickly approaching. There are many different holes that our 49ers need to fill; among them are quarterback, guard, defensive end, pass rushing LB, corner and safety. Which direction will the 49ers go? Well, a lot of that depends on what happens with the six picks prior to the 49ers selection. Most 49ers fans, including myself, want Patrick Peterson or Von Miller, maybe Prince Amukamara if the former two are already selected. I know what fans do not want. And, that is Blaine Gabbert, Cameron Newton or Ryan Mallett with the 7th pick.
So let the discussion begin.....
1. Carolina Panthers: DT Nick Fairley Auburn
Most teams that have the 1st pick in the draft are in desperate need in a lot of positions. However, this draft isn't deep enough for Carolina to find upgrades in every position that they need. There is no true "franchise QB", so Carolina is going to have to look elsewhere with the 1st pick. Nick Fairley will anchor there offensive line for the foreseeable future. He is a clog in the middle that can get to the QB and plays well against the rush.
2. Denver Broncos: DE Da'Quan Bowers Clemson
Some pundits have Denver taking Patrick Peterson here, but I just do not see it. As mentioned in my previous article, corners do not typically go top 5. Bowers fills an immediate need in one of the worse defenses in the NFL. He is multi-dimensional, and will not just be used in obvious passing situations. That said, his major attribute is getting to the QB, and that will help a lot.
3. Buffalo Bills: QB Blaine Gabbert Missouri
For those of you that think Ryan Fitzpatrick is a "franchise QB", think again. I don't think Buffalo is going to be fooled into buying that either. Gabbert is the best QB in a bad draft class, but he is also a project. Look for Buffalo to go with Gabbert and let him sit in the wings while Fitzpatrick handles the snaps for the next season or two.
4. Cincinnati Bengals: WR A.J. Green Georgia
Terrell Owens will not be back and Chad Jackson is not a happy camper, he may want out too. Cincinnati is a mess right now, and could look QB here. But, I think they will go for the consensus #1 WR on the board. Green will come in and contribute immediately. He runs great routes, had nice hands and the learning curve from Georgia to the NFL won't be that much.
5. Arizona Cardinals: QB Cameron Newton Auburn
This selection will please many San Francisco 49ers fans, but it is a pick that Arizona must make. Their QB situation was just beyond horrible last season, and they MUST upgrade there. I am not saying that Newton will be a successful NFL QB; I am saying that Arizona might think so. Accordingly, they could take a flyer on Ryan Mallet here, but that would be too much of a reach.
6. Cleveland Browns: DT Marcell Dareus Alabama
Cleveland played real well against some good teams last season, but they were not consistent. Dareus is the definition of consistent and will anchor what has become a weak defensive line for Cleveland. I understand that the Browns do need to find playmakers on offense, but there really isn't any here to find, instead, they go for a playmaker in the front seven.
7. San Francisco 49ers: CB Patrick Peterson Louisiana State
This would be an ideal scenario for San Francisco. Two "weak" QBs taken in the top five, and the best all-around player in the draft falling to 7. This is not a pipe dream, it will most likely happen. See more on this later...
8. Tennessee Titans: DE Robert Quinn North Carolina
Quinn has been jumping up the draft boards, and the Titans need a playmaker on the defensive line, something they have not had since the Albert Haynesworth days. Quinn will accumulate double digit sacks on a regular basis, and that is something nice to find in the bottom has of the top ten.
9. Dallas Cowboys: OT Tyron Smith Southern California
The Cowboys secondary was a major issue last season, so I can easily see them going with Amukamara here. However, they must protect their franchise QB, Tony Romo. Tyron Smith has all the raw ability in the world, and that is why I have him as the first offensive tackle off the board. His upside is endless, and Dallas will most likely be seeing an all-pro performer here for years to come.
10. Washington Redskins: WR Julio Jones Alabama
What a mess Washington was last season, and they have so many holes to fill. Jones gives them a weapon on the outside and possibly in the return game. Some may think that Washington will go for the "glamour" pick here in Ryan Mallett, but I think that Shanahan understands the need to build through the draft and get value; they will have that in Jones.
11. Houston Texans: CB Prince Amukamara Nebraska
This would also be an ideal scenario for Houston, which ranked dead last in the NFL in pass defense. Teams usually don't draft corners in the 1st round in consecutive seasons, but Houston was so bad in that category last season they may be forced to. They also get nice value in Amukamara, who some have going as high as #5 to Arizona.
12. Minnesota Vikings: CB Brandon Harris Miami (F)
Let me be clear here; if either Gabbert or Newton fall to Minnesota, they will take a flyer on one. However, I do not see that scenario playing out. Antoine Winfield isn't getting any younger, and Minnesota must look to the future. This wouldn't be a great value pick, but I think that Brandon Harris has the ability to be a shutdown corner in the NFL, and getting that outside the top 10 is nice.
13. Detroit Lions: LB Von Miller Texas A&M
Some may question why I have Miller falling to 13 because of his recent performance during Senior Bowl week, but let me explain. Von Miller will be a victim of circumstance here, as teams in the top 12 look elsewhere to fill needs. I could easily see this turning out different if Patrick Peterson isn't available to the 49ers, or Prince Amukamara is gone by the time Houston picks. In Von Miller Detroit fills both a need and gets great value. The Secondary and pass rushing was a major issue for Detroit last season, but with the top 3 corners gone, they get a steal in Miller.
14. St. Louis Rams: DE Aldon Smith Missouri
Sam Bradford needs a true #1 WR to work with, but both A.J. Green and Julio Jones will be gone here. Chris Long had a breakout season in 2010, and adding Aldon Smith will give them Rams nice outside threats on the defensive line.
15. Miami Dolphins: RB Mark Ingram Miami (F)
Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown will both be gone next season, and Miami needs to find a workhorse RB to replace them, in Mark Ingram they get that. He is by far the #1 RB in the draft, and they get him with the 15th pick. In other seasons Ingram would go top 10, but once again we see a player fall because of circumstance. Teams picking before Miami really don't have huge needs at the RB position, and it will benefit the Fins a great deal.
16. Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Adrian Clayborn Iowa
Jacksonville needs to find a pass rusher; there is really no question about that. Last season they took Tyson Alalu, who had a pretty good rookie season. This year they get another cog in the defensive line in Adrian Clayborn, who continues to show great work ethic and passion for the game.
17. New England Patriots: DE Cameron Jordan California
The Patriots traded Richard Seymour to Oakland with this pick, so it only makes sense for them to find a replacement right? This is why the Patriots are continually a playoff team. Trade an aging veteran for a younger player in Cameron Jordan, pure genius. Jordan will make that defense extremely scary in the front seven, he will be a Pro Bowl performer sooner rather than later.
18. San Diego Chargers: DE Cameron Heyward Ohio State
San Diego needs to find a pass rusher to replace the enigma that was Shawne Merriman. Cameron Heyward was projected to be a top 10 pick a few months ago, but a subpar 2010 season dropped his status. That said, he should be a nice addition to San Diego's defense.
19. New York Giants: OT Nate Solder Colorado
New York could easily go secondary here (Aaron Williams), but I see them attempting to find better value with the 19th pick. Nate Solder will be good offensive linemen for the next decade, and he fits perfectly into what the Giants have continued to build in the offensive line over the years, work ethic and pure power.
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: S Rahim Moore UCLA
Tampa Bay needs defensive help, as they had a great offensive draft in 2010. Rahim Moore has the ability to be a standout defensive player in the NFL, and having Morris work with him will only strengthen that opportunity.
21. Kansas City Chiefs: OT Anthony Castonzo Boston College
Kansas City's weak offensive line was apparent in their playoff loss to Baltimore, Matt Cassel really had no chance as the likes of Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata etc... got in his face. Castonzo is the ultimate professional that will keep Cassel upright for the most part.
22. Indianapolis Colts: OT Gabe Carimi Wisconsin
Continuing in the run of offensive lineman, Indianapolis selects Gabe Carimi who has a history of being great in the run game, something that Indianapolis needs desperately. Their pass protection for Peyton Manning was decent, but opening up running lines for Joseph Addai etc... is what they need.
23. Philadelphia Eagles: CB Aaron Williams Texas
If one of the teams ahead of Philadelphia passes up on offensive tackles, then the Eagles may go in that direction. However, I see them going for value and need with the 23rd pick. Aaron Williams has tremendous upside, he just needs to be more consistent.
24. New Orleans Saints: RB Mikel Leshoure Illinois
The lack of a running game killed the Saints this season as their offense was way too one dimensional. They need a full time workhorse RB, and in Leshoure they get that. He had a great season for the Illini in 2010 and look for him to continue that in New Orleans.
25. Seattle Seahawks: DT Corey Luiget Illinois
Jake Locker anyone? That would be a perfect fit for the Seahawks, but they may look elsewhere here as Lockers stock continues to drop. Corey Luiget has an opportunity to be the best Illini defensive linemen coming out in about a two decades that is how good I believe he is. He will anchor the Hawks defensive line for years to come.
26. Baltimore Ravens: CB Brandon Burton Utah
Baltimore's secondary took a huge step back in 2010 and the likes of Fabion Washington are not going to get it done. Brandon Burton may be a little of a reach here, but in the mid-20s you need to fill needs, and he does that.
27. Atlanta Falcons: DE Justin Houston Georgia
Houston from Georgia stays in the peach state. Justin Houston will work nice opposite John Abraham and give the Falcons a nice 1-2 punch on the ends.
28. New England Patriots: OT Derek Sherrod Mississippi State
With six picks in the 1st three rounds the Patriots can afford to fill holes that may not necessarily be evident right now. Derek Sherrod can be eased into the starting lineup, therefore, enhancing the possibility of him being a great tackle for the Patriots.
29. Chicago Bears: OT Demarcus Love Arkansas
Jay Cutler was destroyed on many of occasion last season and the Bears must look for an immediate upgrade. Love may not have a huge amount of upside, but he can come and start right away.
30. New York Jets: WR Leonard Hankerson Miami (F)
Even if the Jets are able to re-sign Braylon Edwards or Santonio Holmes, they are going to need another WR. I strongly doubt that both of them will return. I was extremely impressed by Hankerson last season, especially with the Hurricanes QB situation. He looks like the real deal, and the Jets get a nice #2 WR here.
31. Pittsburgh Steelers: DT Muhammed Wilkerson Temple
Casey Hampton isn't getting any younger and the Steelers usually don't waste time replacing aging veterans. Wilkerson is a beast of a man, and will fit perfectly into what Mike Tomlin has built in the Steel City.
32. Green Bay Packers: DE J.J. Watt Wisconsin
Normally, I would have them going with the o-line here, however, the run of tackles that immediately proceeded Green Bay's pick limits their options. J.J. Watt is 1st round talent, and will fit well with the Packers growing front seven.
Full San Francisco 49ers 2011 Mock Draft
1. CB Patrick Peterson Louisiana State
Peterson is the best all-around player in the 2011 NFL Draft, and the 49ers get him at 7. You really couldn't ask for more could you? The 49ers can slot Peterson into the CB position for the next decade and not have to worry about it. Not since Deion Sanders has a CB came into the NFL with such an aura about him. Look for Peterson to mimic what Sanders did for the 49ers his one and only season with them
2. DE Allen Bailey Miami (F)
San Francisco needs to find a pass rusher opposite Justin Smith, and they are just lucky enough to see Bailey fall to them. Bailey is a perfect fit for a 3-4 defense as he is great against the run as well as a good pass rusher.
3. RB Shane Vereen California
Some think that Anthony Dixon is the heir apparent to Frank Gore, and I am not going to agree or disagree. But, you cannot have enough solid RBs in the backfield. If Vereen had returned to CAL for his senior season, he would have been a top 10 pick next season; this is how good I think he is. Look for him to contribute immediately.
4. WR Vincent Brown San Diego State
Terrell Owens 2.0? Maybe. Vincent Brown runs great routes and has solid hands, he isn't a game breaker and struggles to get separation; but those were the same knocks that many had of Terrell Owens coming out of college. A good receiver, is well, a good receiver. I personally believe that Brown has the capability of being a #1 receiver in the NFL, and there is no reason why the 49ers do not take a flyer on him here.
4 . LB Bruce Carter North Carolina
Manny Lawson may not return, and even if he does the 49ers need more pass rushers on the outside. Bruce Carter fits that mold, and gives them value in the 4th.
5 . QB Pat Devlin Delaware
It is questionable that the 49ers wait until the 5th round to address the QB position, but I see Ryan Mallett and Jake Locker being selected before their 2nd round pick, and Colin Kaepernick selected before their 3rd round selection. In Pat Devlin the 49ers get a project QB, but one that has a tremendous amount of upside. The perfect scenario would be Devlin sitting behind a veteran QB for about two years. Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton, Donovan McNabb, Matt Hasselbeck etc....
6. FB Owen Marecic Stanford
I really don't see Marecic falling to the 6th round, however, most mock drafts have him available when the 49ers select here. It would be an absolute no brainer. He is an ultimate pro in every sense of the word and Jim Harbaugh has called him the best football player he has ever coached, those are amazing words if you ask me. Marecic could also add depth to the LB position and in special teams.
6. S Tejay Johnson Texas Christian
Johnson was a QB in the best secondary in the nation last season. So why does he fall to the 6th round? Well because he isn't flashy at all. What Johnson does cannot be easily seen on the practice field or at the combine. But, make no mistake about it, he will be a productive NFL player.
7. K Alex Henery Nebraska
Joe Nedney is pretty much done, and there remain a lot of questions in regards to Jeff Reed. The 49ers may look to get a kicker with one of their 3 possible 7th round picks. Henery was the best kicker in the NCAA last season, and will be a good kicker at the next level. He has 55+ yard range.
7. OL Lee Ziemba Auburn
Ziemba is slotted as a tackle, but I see him more as a guard in the NFL. With Alex Boone pretty much slotted as the primary back up tackle in 2011, the 49ers must have to look at the guard position.
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Detroit doesn't run a 3-4 and they don't send in their OLB to rush.
But I like the niners picks but some people won’t slip that far.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
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Miller can play on the outside in a 4-3
but his pass rushing will be somewhat wasted other than blitzes
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
I don't see Detroit going for an OLB in 4-3 at 13th pick.
That’s a wasted pick. I know that Miller is worth the pick, but not where they would likely want him to play.
Lions actually have a decent LB corp. They may be looking to replace Peterson due to his salary next year but that’s not a big position they need.
I don't see Miller lasting past Houston at 11
The perfect draft...
Round 1: Von Miller
Round 2: Jimmy Smith
Round 3: Colin Kaepernick
OLB is a great need for them
but I think they would rather pick Ayers because he is a great guy in coverage.
Kellen Moore is awesome
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I give you a B because Patrick Peterson is a stud and I do think that Pat Devlin would be a good project for the 49ers to work into he mix.
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I gave you a B -- love P Peterson and most of the pick but....
Niners need to find a way to move to grab C Kaepernik in the 3early third round – -Devlin is worse than a “project”.
AND I’d like to see us get the olb pass ruser fa from kc and maybe Champ Bailey and put him at FS. With those adds and this draft we should be in position to fight for and win a play off berth..
Go Niners
Kaep's gonna probably be snatched up in the 2nd round.
Highly unlikely that he lasts until the third with such a thing crop of QB’s.
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Gotta go with Drew here.
Ponder or Kaepernick would be a better 2nd round pick than DE. If the 49ers are worried about both being gone by the time they draft in the 3rd round, then they need to trade back in the 2nd round and learn from the Patriots. Ponder and Kaepernick are better prospects than Devlin.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather have Ponder or Kaepernick too
I do however, think Kaepernick could last into the 3rd round. I agree though, that if we need to move up to get our guy, I’m all for that.
I don’t want to move back just to get more picks. I’m all for moving back into the 2nd, or 3rd to get Kaepernick wherever he is going to go. Different from many people here, I loved the Davis trade up. Rumors were someone was going to move up before us to get him, so we got our RT of the Future for a 4th rounder. No biggie. Let’s move up to get the guy we want, as long as we aren’t doing what Denver and Carolina did by trading a 1st rounder for a 2nd rounder. Stupid.
Kaepernick
Of course you do.. but what happened to the 4th or 5th round? lol jk
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KC isn't going to let Hali walk
Guys like that just don’t come onto the market very often. Expect him to be re-signed.
Guys can just swap positions in Madden easily, but it’s a little different in real life. I doubt we go out, and give Bailey a big contract, just to switch him to FS. That’s like buying a house before you have even seen it.
Read my lips
WE DONT HAVE A QUARTERBACK! Bailey is overrated. If we dont take a qb no. 1 then we should trade back and get some juice to get Luck next year.
Agree: better QB needed, and Bailey is a workout warrior, not a football player.
I’m also not opposed to the idea of trading for a #1 pick next year.
New Worst Case Scenario Top 6: 1-Car: Fairley, 2-Den: Petersen, 3-Buff: Miller, 4-Cinn: Green, 5-Ari: Gabbert, 6-Cle: Quinn
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Bailey is quite raw but could be good
He looks like he could use some technique coaching. I still think just for the fact that he’s so strong that he could be a pretty good pass rusher in The NFL.
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He's always been raw.
He hasn’t done any ‘ripening’ since high school. Bull rusher only.
New Worst Case Scenario Top 6: 1-Car: Fairley, 2-Den: Petersen, 3-Buff: Miller, 4-Cinn: Green, 5-Ari: Gabbert, 6-Cle: Quinn
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well you don't want your 5-tech doing spin-moves on run downs
and he’ll rush inside in Nickel, that is if he can unseat McDonald (shouldn’t be that hard unless Ray Ray steps it up big time)
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
I'd rather try to get
Marvin Austin in the second round and move him to DE
That would seem like a better pick
Because Austin looks a little more versatile to me. He was a 4-3 DT, so I can see him as a DE in 3-4. I think I even saw him play some NT in nickel situations.
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Yeah he is versitle
I think he is a little small to play NT but in a pinch he could. He should be available at #45 and to me Peterson/Prince in the first and Austin in the second would be a great start to the draft.
I like the Austin pick.
Not following you with the Prince pick though. To me it’s Peterson or Miller/Quinn.
RE: CBs in top 5
Good mock draft, Vincent. It’s true corner backs usually do not go in the top five, though it’s worth noting that elite (I mean ELITE), once in a decade type talents do go in the top five. Deion Sanders was drafted 5th overall in 1989, Charles Woodson, following his Heisman season was drafted 4th in 1998 and the Redskins arguably would’ve drafted Champ Baily 4th overall in 1999 had Mike Ditka not offered 7 picks to move up 3 spots. Baily ended up going to the Redskins 7th overall. Nonetheless, thanks for sharing. Each mock offers some measure of how players are viewed by different people.
Also remember that people say that safeties never go inthe top 5.
And Berry went last year and is doing pretty good from what I’ve heard and the few games I’ve seen.
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need to take a qb higher.
Bailey has a good chance of being there in the third
rb is too high
I think there are better blocker at fb then maeric which is the primary function of a fb.
also I will bet that the first o-line pick will not be at 19.
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HATED THIS
Sorry, I love the Peterson pick, but you lost me after that.
First off, we do NOT need another DL, let alone one in the second round. Horrible idea! Ice and Smith will be fine. What we do need is a STUD OLB, and those are very hard to find. I don’t see a 4th round guy being the answer there.
RB in the third is way too high. Frank will be fine for the next season or two, and Dixon will be ok as a backup. Quicky shift COP backs like Derrick Locke are easy to pick up later in the draft.
Waiting until the 5th round to grab a QB is also a terrible idea. I see us getting Ponder in the 2nd.
We really do not need another WR. A true stud? Maybe. But I like the guys we have and I don’t want another young guy in the stable trying to push Ziggy out.
Marecic is the top rated FB, no way he falls to the 6th.
7th Round CB does us no good whatsoever. Philip Adams fills that role, and he looks like a solid nickelback, possible future no 2 guy.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 10:29 AM PST reply actions
Peterson VS Miller
Personally I’d take Miller over Peterson. Peterson is a stud, but he only takes away one guy. Miller can take away their entire WR core with a good pass rush. There will be some solid CBs in the 2nd. SPEAKING OF WHICH, you had abajillion cbs in the first round, but no Jimmy Smith or Ras-i Dowling?? WTH! Jimmy Smith is rated by a lot of people to be better even than Amakumara!
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with this
It seems to me there’s a pretty big drop off with OLB’s after the 2nd round. There’s at least a little more depth with CB’s.
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I don't agree.
I feel like Peterson is the better player and I don’t think you can pick Miller because you think another CB will still be available. If the difference in having an elite CB (Peterson) and a good player in the 2nd round v. having a very good player (Miller) and a good CB in the 2nd round. I think if the choice is there, the Niners have to go with whoever they think will be the better player regardless of what may be available later in the draft.
Elite OLB vs Elite CB
Miller is more than a “very good player.” He will be a dominant force that can shift around a rush from different positions, or drop back in coverage. He forces other teams to gameplan against him.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I guess thats where we disagree.
I think Peterson will be the better player in the long run as one of the top CBs in the league, maybe just below Revis and Nnamdi. Plus I feel that you can design a defense to get pressure on the QB with the right CBs in place.
How many elite CB's are in the league?
2? If we are conceding that both players are going to be elite than thats the question I ask. There are a lot more “elite” OLB’s than CB’s in the league. The other thing people are forgetting is that would put Clements at #2 CB, and outside of a very few teams that would make our #2 CB one of the better ones in the league. Of course this is all speculation on players being so called “elite” players.
To be Honest...
It really doesn’t matter who we have as our number 1 CB. If Nate Clements is on the field, QBs will throw it at him. They know he will either bite on the double move or get out-wrestled for the ball or even just run right past. That’s the way I look at it. Spencer got beat badly a few times last year, but most of the time opposing teams ignored both him and Brown and kept chucking it at Clements.
Nate singlehandedly lost the Seahawks game where he bit on the pumpfake twice allowing 2 TDs. He also singlehandedly lost the game where intercepted the ball and then got caught from behind. He’s a bum, he’s got to go.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
He's not worth the money
and I wouldn’t shed a tear if he left but he isn’t as bad as people (even me at times) have made him out to be. If there is any Free Agency at all this year I think we get Champ and play him at Saftey, that is decent over the top help even if Clements is that bad. Against #2-#3 receivers I think he will be fine, but yes he wasn’t the bright spot of last year
He Lost us Two Games! How is he not as bad as he we think he is!??
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Technically
No one player looses a game. Even if he can’t fall down after a pick at the end of the game. What if he didn’t pick that ball in ATL and they lost is it still his fault? Did he do nothing good at all this year? I’m just saying if he was that bad we would have had another CB starting.
What Other CB would have started? Heck, Singletary couldn’t even make up his mind what QB to start! Nate Clements did NOTHING good this year!
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree.
Being “Elite” at LB in college doesn’t necessarily transfer into the NFL. See Curry, Aaron if you’d like to know more. Being an elite corner transfers over extremely well.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Joshuahss right. This mock draft has 5 CB's taken and 1 S in the first round....
then we have to wait until the 13th pick or so the grab a CB and hope that more don’t fall off the board by the time we pick. So we can take the BEST CB at #7 or we can get the 6th, 7th, or even the 8th best rated CB in the second round. I think wee need the second round to get our QB, so now we are down to the 3rd round for a CB…..10th or 11th best?
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Jimmy Smith is much slower than Amukamara.
I think that is the biggest knock on Smith is his speed, or lack there of. He’s more of a press coverage guy. I guess Prince is too, but he has a bit more upside. Really, I think Brandon Harris has the most upside of any of the potentially second CB’s to come off the board.
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Maybe
But he was lockdown at the college level and a dominant force as a run-stopper. If needs to play press coverage but will be lockdown doing so, THEN LET HIM PLAY PRESS! Simple concept, right?
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Sure, if it fits the scheme.
If not, it could be a liability.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
This.
You can’t shape your defense around a second round CB, so if thats the type of D they will play then take him. Finding the right players for your scheme is just as important as finding the best players for the team, especially after round 1.
Fangio
Well we know Fangio loves to blitz (just ask Shayne Skov!). We also know from watching Stanford last season that he got away with some pretty shoddy CB play because he had such a great core of pass-rushing OLBs.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, right.
Stanford’s secondary was the best in the Pac-10. Sherman, Bademosi, and Howell were tough back there.
And honestly, I hope we can get Richard Sherman in the later rounds.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Ish
It’s the ish factor. They were made to look way better than they were thanks to the tremendous pass rush we had.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Then why did Sherman still look like a stud at the Senior Bowl?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I agree
Stanford’s D was greatly improved and one of the best in the Pac, but to refer to a previous post I think it was more Derrick Mason who helped the secondary improve rather then Fangio. Fangio made the D as a whole improve as far as technique and agressive scheme. I too hope we can snatch up Sherman in the later rounds. As a die hard Stanford fan it is hard to see him go, he has been a great player and leader on our team the past 5 years.
by CardinalOfficial on Feb 15, 2011 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
Link to Speed
Read more about him HERE The big knock they had on him was his fluidity. Yet I heard one respected analyst describe his fluidity as “silky smooth.”
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
He's projected to run a 4.5...he is the slowest out of the top 5
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
"Projected" my kitteh gif!
Jerry Rice ran a slow 40 too! Smith doesn’t get beat deep IN GAMES. Nuff said.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yes he does.
I saw him get beat a few times this past year. And that was against college competition. He won’t be able to hang with the more speedy and better route running NFL guys. And in about 5 years, when the speed he does have hits the wall, he’ll be done.
I am looking for guys we can potentially have around for 8-10 years.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
See my comment above re Fangio's scheme
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
That has changed
Drastically. There is talk of 4.35 now
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I can't find where I found the number
But scouts have been watching him train at API and said hes looked fantastic
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'll believe that when I see it.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Apparently Jimmy is a lot faster than scouts thought him to be
The talk is 4.35 for him at the combine now. Apparently scouts have shown up to his training camp for the combine and he’s been absolute dynamite in everything he’s done. That’s why he’s flown up the draft boards.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
A link Burnzey?
Do you have a link to this? I’m not saying your full of it, just wanting to see a link to read it for myself.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't heard Smith was slow...
in fact I’ve heard things like “above average speed”. I was expecting him to run in the 4.4’s at the combine, disagree?
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
We'll just have to see. I have seen anywhere from 4.43 to 4.5
He will prob more than likely be in between those. That’s my bet
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
It's also documented that he runs better in shorts... so, who knows.
I think players should be timed in full pads. And do all their drills in them as well.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
MTD says he reportedly runs 4.35 and
can run with a lot of wide receivers deep
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
-1
The only knock on Amukamara is that he lacks top-end recovery speed. That hasn’t been said of Smith. We’ll know for sure after the combine
Too much emphasis is put into 40 times anyway. What happens if Amukamara runs the fastest 40 time for all DBs at the Combine?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Feb 14, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
his stock will go up because his technique is good other than some issues turning and running
but if he has the speed to make up for it that helps some. Either way I think Prince is not a top 10 pick.
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
I don't see why not
While I was joking about Amukamara running faster than everyone else (because it really doesn’t mean anything), I have no problem with Amukamara going 7th overall. He’s as good of a corner as Peterson just not the athletic freak that Peterson is.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Feb 14, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
but see he's not
he’s not as fast, doesn’t turn as well, doesn’t tackle as well. These things aren’t huge but they are there.
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
That's how you feel about him
I think Amukamara does tackle better than Peterson and better about shedding tackles and playing the run in general. Peterson is a fantastic specimen, but he has not reached his full potential yet. Peterson could easily be another Antonio Cromartie but who can tackle.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Feb 14, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
This
is pretty much how i feel as well
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by Giant Voodoo on Feb 14, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I'd give it a B... I think we need to address the QB a bit higher and I would replace Bailey..
Also, the formatting was a bit funky.
Just a few critiques on the 1st round mock if you don’t mind:
Von Miller – While I think the Lions would be completely stoked, there is no chance that he falls to the 13th overall selection.
Patrick Peterson – While I am with you on that pick, the probability isn’t very high. If we get Peterson at 7, that would be the steal of the draft.
All reaches; some of them by one or two rounds – B. Harris, T. Smith, D. Love, G. Carimi, L. Hankerson, C. Luiget, M. Wilkerson, D. Sherrod, J. Houston.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Finally the voice of reason!
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Dont forget that Andrew Luck extended a lot of plays
with his running ability. If Cam Newton is still there at #7 he would be a strong consideration when I asked myself " how would Newton have done at Stanford?" I gave this mock a D because it doesnt address our most pressing need. A QUARTERBACK!
newton has about one year of playing qb in college.
no, thanks.
another six years I can not take it. I would rather have the niners spend second round pick every year on a qb until that guy is found then have the niners draft a qb in the first and every year will be the break out year for the first round pick. no thanks. there are still many questions about newton.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 14, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
The real problem with Newton
is that he saw more single coverage in one year than maybe any QB in the history of football. They couldn’t stop him or the backs from running so they bring more guys in the box. They ran a lot of play action and double moves and he was basically throwing passes to guys who weren’t even covered. The question is can he sit back read a defense and throw against real coverage, no one knows the answer to that question
FYI
Charles Brown is back at UNC and not in the draft.
Mocking the Draft: Talking NFL Draft all year.
Thanks for the information
I had not realized that. I took him off my mock draft and made that pick BPA. Thanks for the heads up
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Feb 14, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
OLB Carter isn't *really* a pass rusher.
You’re thinking of Robert Quinn if you want a UNC pass rushing OLB.
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Yeah I was gonna say, I haven’t heard about Carter switching to 3-4 OLB. & In most of the film I’ve seen he’s playing off the LOS & not rushing. If we were to take him I’d say he’d become ILB, but we don’t really need one unless we were pretty certain TKO is not returning.
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he's only 6'3" too right?
might not have quite the length to play OLB in pass rush situations.
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
Nice mock
I like your picks nocal, the only disagreement I have is the devlin pick. I doubt the niners will wait until the 5th to draft a qb, I think if locker,Mallet or even ponder fall to the 2nd the niners will grab any of those. I like the Vereen pick
by ninersince94 on Feb 14, 2011 10:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I like the first round pick!
Peterson is a stud, and if he does fall to us at 7, we fill our second most glaring need. Since there is no top rated QB that fits our system, that is the best pick IMO. The rest of the draft is pretty good. I like Kaepernick though.
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Don't think Peterson will fall to us, but a steal if he does
An “A” draft in my opinion will include two CBs in rounds 1-4b, a true pass rush threat in rounds 1-2, two QBs in rounds 2-5 and one FB and one sub 4.4 RB in rounds 4-6. The rest of the picks should just be for depth.
A lot of people on here are arguing about when to draft a QB. I think that a lot of the later round QBs, like Ponder, Dalton, Devlin, etc. have a lot of upside, but there’s a reason they’re in the later rounds. Take a couple QB projects and see which one develops into the starter.
FYI
Ponder isn’t a later round pick. The general consensus from the respected guys is that if he can build on his strong Senior Bowl performance with a good showing at the Combine he might even sneak into the late 1st Round.
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Bro .. Casey Matthew's ... that is all ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Glad to see the optimism flowing
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
No
Peterson is great. But the problem is there is no way Buffalo is going to take Gabbert.
1. I do think they are going to go with Fitzpartrick, and if they keep him they’re going to have to pay him.
2. They can
t financially afford to pay Gabbert high 1st round QB $ to sit on the bench. This is a small city team. (I’ve been there. I mean, REALLY small.) They have to take a pick they can afford to pay. They might take Peterson or a pass rusher. But they won’t be taking a QB.
Also, we really have to address QB. So if Colin Kaepernick is there in the second round, it could be a half round too soon statistically, but you have to take him, or another QB Harbaugh likes better that’s still there. Too many teams need QBs this year. And even though it’s being called a weak class, it’s not THAT weak, except there’s no one standout top pick. If let’s say, Luck were available, he’d be picked number 1. Then we’d look at the rest of the QB class and say, not bad. So I think we have to take one in round 2.
Agree with the Buffalo point.
Fitzpatrick lit it up with no WR’s. I can see them going defense or AJ Green even to give FItz another target. Plus Buff’s ownership doesn’t have a strong belief in selecting QB’s in the 1st round. He’s only done it twice in like the last 30 years or so.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
We agree quite a bit this year, will the tome before the draft be boring? Lol!!
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
Haha, yeah. Surely we can find at least one thing to disagree on.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
How about the sig?
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
I like it a lot... realistic too.
The only thing I see there that I would change is prob the 6th rounder. I’d rather take Richard Sherman or Chris Rucker.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Wouldnt be surprised if Colin cracks the first and of course leapfrogging some prospects.
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
Combine is going to play a big part in that.
But if you have both Manning bro’s endorsing you, that’s not a bad thing, that’s for sure. Mayock has been on the wagon too…
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I kinda like your mock rlott
love to get Harris and House and also add Brown. Kaepernick and Henery I like too.
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
It’s just pre combine. I think Harris is being overlooked. He could be worth 7th, I like his cover skills.
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
Interesting take on things
however, who would the Patriots be trading up for?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Feb 14, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Quinn or Miller
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
They could
but Belichick has never taken an OLB in the first round. These guys might be the kind to break that trend, but we’ll have to see.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Feb 14, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
he could move up for de
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
He didn't have to for a decade
He inherited a great group of OLBs and has tried to use free agency but mostly failed.
I def like what I've seen of Harris
he’s a gamer, quick and fast too. He comes to play.
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
Trade our number 1
I would like to see the Niners trade their first to pick up extra picks this year, and hopefully take a DE’s, two CB’s and an OLB like Casey Matthews to shore up the deficiencies on defense. I also don’t think it would be a bad idea trading our second round pick for a first next year. New England always seems to have two first round picks and they seem to capitalize by getting good young talent out of it. Why not develop some type of similar strategy?
Casey is an ILB
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
He is an ILB, but many have said he could be converted to OLB.
Bowman was an OLB but drafted to play ILB…so it is possible.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Bowman/ Matthews
They’ve both played both positions. But I am not sure that Casey’s tangibles are set up the same as his bro’s. And he played ILB about 90% of the time. I suppose a conversion is always possible but the major difference between Bowman and Matthews is that Bowman played OLB in a 43 set up.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
C, not very realistic...
You mention a couple times that you don’t think guys will still be there, so then it’s like a fairy tale draft. It’s an awesome draft if it fell that way but it’s highly unlikely that those quality type guys will be on the board. Honestly, I think Delvin and Marecic will go a round earlier
Mid Rounds 3-6 seem very shaky....
for a team that IF it doesn’t trade back can make up ground here. First picking a Rb in the 3rd round seems like a reach for a COP Back, when you can pick up a Derrick Locke in later rounds. Secondly, not picking a QB till the 5th round seems very far fetched for Niners FO when I would feel a person like Ponder or Kapernick can be found with their 2nd or 3rd pick. Thirdly, you say Deviln would be nice to get picked up & learn from if an Orton or Palmer is avaliable but, while NOT expressing the fact that Niners will have to give a pick from rounds 1-4 in order for that to happen. Lastly, not sure about Niners FO picking a WR in the 4th round when the WR’s they have haven’t been completely utilized yet because of the coaches prior. Also I would think a CB / OLB or even trading one of the 4th rounders to a team for a moving up in the draft would be more beneifical than picking a WR.
Although I made these points, Peterson, Mareicic, Devlin, & Johnson are pretty good mock draft picks if that senerio does fall to the Niners.
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
"The future belongs to those who prepare for it today." - Malcolm X
+ Bailey@ 2nd round
looking @ his game film he doesn’t seem to come of ball quickly.
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
"The future belongs to those who prepare for it today." - Malcolm X
by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 14, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Any trades the 49ers make for Orton or Palmer or anyone else will come from the 2012 draft as the 2011 draft will already happen
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
How sure are you of '12 picks...
with looming CBA uncertainty. Which leads me to my point of having a mock draft with the idea of depending on QB’s that are NOT free agents.
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 14, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
There must be a lot of
fishermen on the site. Everyone seems to want to go into the shallows and hope a marlin comes to close to shore. If you want the big fish you have got to step up and not throw a hook into a school of Sardines hoping to catch a world class sailfish(player). I hope Harbaugh has the guts to invest his future instead of letting it wither along at the end of 10 lb. test line. Cam Newton is the BIG ONE!
by rileyg1 on Feb 14, 2011 12:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Guy Is Super Immature
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
And heck, he models himself after Brett Favre!
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
You want to end up getting pics of Cam Newton’s manhood?
Seriously, Brett Favre is in the scandal spotlight this year. Saying you want to be like him is like a golfer saying he wants to be like Tiger Woods. Stupid thing to say right before the draft! Say Steve Young, or Peyton Manning or someone like that!
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by Riding The F Train on Feb 14, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair,
you don’t know the context to which he said he models his game after Favre. He could very well have been talking about how he played a few years ago, and he probably was not talking personality wise. I think that whole story was overblown and is really a non-issue.
This will be
Harbaughs job to sort that out. If he likes him at least we took a shot at the best available at this time.
I would rather be Tiger Woods and excell at what I do, than be Akili Smith and a good guy.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Good guy
If we’re talking about professional athletes I’d rather be considered a good guy. I’ll have made some decent money and won’t be considered a schmuck.
by David Fucillo on Feb 14, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I see where you are comming from....
But there is a difference between Tiger Woods and lets say….Barry Bonds. Woods is a baby compared to Bonds. Woods, cusses a little and spit…twice. Ok, lets talk about the affair…Scum bag! Well, I would say that 90% of NFL football players cheat. The only reason Jeter didn’t cheat, is because he stayed single for so long….
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
BTW...I'm fully aware that Jeter plays Baseball, but baseball players cheat too.
Put millions of dollars in the pockets of young men and have hot women throw themselves at them and it’s bound to happen…even to the married ones. Not all, but many fall victim to this.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Or you could end up with the fish taking all your bait (money) and running.
Investing such a high pick in a project QB with obvious weaknesses is a potential recipe for disaster. He has the physical tools but many QBs that have had them in the past has failed. And calling other top prospects “Sardines” is pretty much a joke, as many of them will likely turn out to be better in the longrun than Cam.
Who will be better or
has as much upside. All of these kids are a risk. at least Newton has been a winner everywhere he has been. 1 jc national championship then a BCS championship in two years of starting. There is no substitute for winning.
There have been plenty of winners in the past who have not done so in the NFL.
Ken Dorsey comes to mind. Cam Newton is widely considered to be one of the riskier picks in the draft this year because of the offense he played in and his running ability. It is still yet to be determined how well he will adapt to seeing different coverages. Liking a player is one thing, but blind optimism is a perfect way to be let down.
he's not even the best player on his own team
And the SEC was weak this year.
Auburn would have lost to TCU
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
you’re funny.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I think Cam will be a good NFL QB, but not great, and will never lead his team to the SB.
How many times can a guy FAKE a QB sneak and all the CB’s and safties come off coverage and leave a wide open guy to throw to. He ran it 252 times…..more than both his RB’s combined. That works well in college, but he won’t do that agianst NFl teams. 49ers would be wise to pass on him. In fact, Cam might be the reason we get PP.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Greg McElroy.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Lost me at the Buffalo pick, then again with the niners 2nd and 3rd round picks. There is a bigger need for two cbs than a 3rd round rb, and Green is typically a homer pick and pretty, meg, to me.
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
PETERSON WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE AND PLEASE TAKE KAEPERNICK IN THE SECOND. HE IS SMART AND CAN THROW NUFF SAID WOOOOT!
Californa is world PVP at it's finest.
Its far from impossible
I think most people can agree that Fairly,Bowers,and Green will be gone in the top 6. Most people think Dareus will be gone in the top 6 as well. That leaves Von Miller and Quinn for teams who need a pass rush OLB (Bills?). Not too mention the need for QB Gbbert and Newton (Bills/Cardinals?). Also the Broncos and Browns are changing over from a 3-4 to a 4-3 so that may lead to them drafting DL in the first round. So to say he won’t be available is as much of a stretch as saying he will be.
Browns are very happy with Haden anyways
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Gave it a C
Just because it landed Peterson.
Otherwise I think it’s poor, especially 2-5.
First, we don’t have the luxury of adding a 3rd string RB that high in the draft.
Second, I don’t like Bailey at all. If you were determined for some reason to take a DE here, I think better ones are available. Physically he looks like he can play the part and he’ll hit all the right benchmarks at the combine, but he won’t pan out. Every area of his technique has major question marks and I’d question his drive to play football professionally.
Third, you are considering that we might lose Lawson but not considering that we might lose Franklin.. and the 3-4 falls apart without a NT, RJF isn’t the answer, and moving Soap to NT and starting a rookie or one of our backups at the other DE spot is a huge downgrade to our line and will cause our good LB core to be swamped.
Fourth, while Devlin has the best mechanics and amazing read ability, god didn’t bless him with a QB’s arm. I think QB’s with slight arm strength issues can be worked with.. but this is a limp noodle hanging off his shoulder. I’d rather take Ponder (if he falls) or Kaep (little high) at #45, and I don’t really like Ponder.
Fifth, Bruce Carter is a major risk. He’s coming off a major ACL tear and I’d probably leave him off my board completely.
Sixth, I don’t see the need for another receiver that can’t run routes and has trouble creating separation. No matter what other tangibles they possess.
I’m all on board with your round 6 picks and Henery.. all three have a better than even chance to make the final 53.
2011 Draft
I see all of the mock draft selection as viable and smart choices. Radially different from the the his DUMB predecessor and previous regime who was not good at player evaluation.
Who are you referring to?
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
It's not you...I think he is refering to Balke and Harbaugh being better than Sing/Nolan and McC.
Balke is hands down better at selecting TALENT and Harbaugh will be better at selecting a QB. Or he might be talking about you….LOL.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
"DUMB predecessor and previous regime who was not good at player evaluation"
The previous regime was what I was going by….Sing and company. It is hard to follow with the 2 the’s back to back…throws you off a bit and leaves you struggling to grasp what what was said. See, the “What What” makes you have to STOP and say, What? Huh?
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
No, I got that.
I just didn’t know if he was referring to Sing or Baalke, or York, or who…
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
1. Panthers – Fairley
2. Broncos – Peterson
3. Bills – R Quinn
4. Bengals – Bowers
5. Cardinals V Miller
6. Browns – Dareus
7.49ers – AJ Green
Harbaugh runs a version of Bo Schembeclers offense, not a WCO!!!
Mock....trade #7 to NE for #17 and #33
1 Brandon Harris CB MIA.
2a. C Kaepernick QB
2b. Brooks Reed Olb
3. Davon House CB Aggies
4. Marvin Austin DT UNC 34 de
4b. Greg Little WR UNC
5. Alex Henry K
6. Chykie Brown Texas CB
7. Emanuel Moody RB
It is a possibility
To which if the draft fell like that, I would not complain. Green is too good a prospect to pass up. The question will then become with Green added to this offense, will that be enough to make Alex Smith throw down field?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Feb 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Nice Mock
Two questions…
1. Deion Sanders? I just don’t think anyone has come out yet with his same “aura”. “Not since Deion Sanders has a CB came into the NFL with such an aura about him.” I just don’t see it. He has gotten some hype, but I think those two players are still VERY different. Sanders was the fastest player coming out of college ever. Only until Chris Johnson came out did he breaks Deion’s 40 time. I don’t think Peterson has the speed or ability that Deion had. Please just be aware of who you are comparing them too. I know that Deion was a hyped athletic corner, and that Peterson is as well, but they still are different players. Peterson is larger, probably more physical. Deion was a game changer with the ball in his hands. Peterson is athletic, but I just don’t think you can compare their “aura”. Totally different people and players.
2. You stated that Teejay Johnson falls because what he excels at can’t be seen by MEDIA basically. “What Johnson does cannot be easily seen on the practice field or at the combine.” I want to make sure people don’t confuse what the Media, or your average “fan” can see or rank someone. If his talent shows up on game tape, he won’t last. So just because he isn’t getting media hype, doesn’t mean he will fall, if he is a good player, he is a good player.
Good points on both
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Both questions..
I’m of the same mind…
I think he’s by far the best CB in this draft, and last draft… but I think many are expecting him to jump into the NFL and be an instant HoF’er and reality usually turns out very different. I feel sorry for the expectations that are going to be put on this kid.. like all rookie CB’s he’s going to have a steep learning curve. But he’ll be paid well enough.
Peterson likes to mix it up in run game and is a tough guy
another thing Deion was not
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
Yeah,
That’s one part I love about his game… although I think he needs to be less “physical” in some ways.
I’ve seen him rip guys down by their heads and launch into receivers as the ball is arriving.
All good things in my mind, come into a man’s area of the field, expect to pay the toll.. but unfortunately carry 15 yard penalties and huge fines in the NFL.
If you reread the comment "Not since Deion Sanders has a CB came into the NFL with such an aura about him"
You will se that he doesn’t compare PP to Sanders, just that since Sanders came out, there hasn’t been a player with as much aura. Not that he is better or is in the same class as Deion.
Besides. Deion shyed away from contact and wasn’t a good tackler. That there makes these two guys way different. Sanders was a special player, and it would be nice to have a special player again. PP has the tools to be great…only time will tell.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I would love Peterson @ 7, but....
I am warming up to the idea to trade down… especially if Peterson is gone by the time we draft..
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect ___?__ to be super so soon. Alex Smith is no longer expected to do much for this team in the future... on to the next one!!
If PP and Miller are gone...
Trade down and pick up Harris or another CB of equal talent and get an extra 2nd or 3rd.
by ericalancanty on Feb 14, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
C
Who’s our QB? How are we going to acquire Kolb or Palmer without giving up our 2nd rounder? If we lose it then that changes the whole outlook of our draft.
EXCELLENT DRAFT!!!!
I would b pumped if the draft turned out like this!!! I’d like 2 c casey matthews in the red n gold :-) maybe 6th round (if he’s there?)
Or maybe Mario Harvey from Marshall
An Ilb. Around the 7th. He had 144 tackles last year.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
In a blitz diverse scheme (like Fangio's)
the need for an elite corner is much greater than the need for an elite OLB. If the blitz scheme is good, most good OLBs will be able to get pressure on the QB
Btw, I give the draft an A
CB, DE and RB would be great with me in the first 2 rounds
At first I voted A
But now that I think about it, I should of given it more of a B or C.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Phil Taylor
My 2nd round pick. Has the power/size for the nose and the mobility to thrive in Fangio’s system. Can only hope Peterson is available at 7… but I have a hunch it wont happen.
1st round CB
2nd-OLB/Pass rusher
3rd-QB
4th-CB
4thFB
5th-OL
6th-S
7th-K
7th-DL
7th-WR-with fastest 40 or a game changer a punt or kick returner with speed and versatility.
Just wonderin'
Why you are looking for another return man? We have Ginn, KW and Adams that can return punts. Is this one of those “Can never have too many good return guys”, or something else? Just found it interesting.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 14, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
3-4 defensive ends
should not be the primary pass rush. Now if they give you that, like Justin Smith, it’s an added bonus, but we need a dynamite rusher off the end from the OLB position. Like Aldon Smith, Quinn or possibly Miller.
Also
I am a HUGE Vincent Brown fan, but he a completely different type of player than Owens.
Owens had unique blend of size and speed. Everyone claims Owens was this big,“physical” receiver but he was actually very fast when it came to game speed and was exceelent after the catch because no one wants to tackle a 6’3 230 LB receiver running at the speed he did.
Brown strikes me more as a Chad Johnson type, an excellent route runner with an acceleration in and out of his breaks, but not necessarily the elite straight line speed that Owens had.
Expanding on this idea
- Da’Quan Bowers – Denver is already committed to Dumerville for something like $50 million and they drafted Ayers just two season ago to play the other DE. Yes he wasn’t a good pick but Denver desperately needs interior defensive linemen, not another DE.
- Blaine Gabbert – If Alex Smith is good enough under the circumstances to keep his starting job with the 49ers than according to the same fans Ryan Fitzpatrick must be zOMG greatness for the Bills. If Alex had 2/3 of the season as Fitz this board would be throwing a pre SB parade. Yet the logic here is Buffalo needs a QB … anyone else notice a monumental gap in logic here?
- Cameron Newton – Prevailing logic, see AZ think stupid pick? Whisenhunt doesn’t buy an ounce of flash and glitz. If he cut Leinart before actually seeing him play why would he be candidate to sign up for the Cam Newton experience? The criteria is pretty simple in AZ, get Larry the ball and keep everything else to yourself.
- Tyron Smith – Not as bad as the others above but a wait to be seen. Dallas didn’t like Anthony Davis who fit this profile.
- Prince Amukamara – Houston, dreams come true.
- Brandon Harris – Wouldn’t the Cover 2 team go with Jimmy Smith? If they go corner at all? Was their pick last season.
- Adrian Clayborn – How many DE is that team going to draft and bring in via free agency?
- Cameron Jordan – NE throw the parade now.
… it’s hard to predict at this point. Probably only 20 1st round grades if not less so it’s a crap shoot from here.
2011 49ers Mock Draft
1st – Patrick Peterson – CB – Game changer, starts right away and can lock down half the
field. This guy is a beast. At first I though we had no real shot to get him, but now it
seems possible
2nd – Ponder/Kaepernick – QB – For some a reach, but with a QB, get the guy you want. We
are talking about the QB position. Reach a litle to gain alot. Ponder is a true WCO
style QB and Kaepernick has great upside. Harbough could mold either of these two
guys to be the QBOTF.
3rd – Casey Matthews – ILB -Can cover, blitz and run stop. Non stop motor like Big Brother
Clay. Matthews could be moved to OLB and used like Clay. Almost the same size but
1 inch shorter than Clay coming out of college but also 1 1/2 years younger.
4th – Brandon Bair – DE – Played DT at Oregon but is projected to move to DE in a 3-4
scheme. Reminds me alot of Justin Smith and would help the D line.
4th – Derrick Locke – RB – 5’8" and pure speed. He is the perfect change of pace running
back. Locke had a great Senior Bowl. I would prefer LaMichael James as the COP RB
but he opted to stay in school.
5th – Owen Marecic – FB – FB is an important position in a WCO…Harbaugh gets his guy and
knows what he gets in Marecic.
6th – Greg McElroy – QB – McElroy is a winner. Would start out on the practice squad but is a
perfect WCO type QB. Gets banged on for a weak arm but is a ture winner. He plays
because he loves the game, and is a true leader.
6th – Jeff Mahel/ Ryan Whalen – WR – Both these guys are true slot recievers and can get
separation from the defender. Both have exceptional hands and come cheap in the
6th round. Yes, they are both Pac 10 guys but are the only two slot WR’s at this spot.
7th – Alex Henery – K – I like nocal81’s pick here as we need a kicker and with the current
CBA situation, we should draft one in the 7th round to lock them up.
7th – Lee Ziemba – OL – at 6’6" and 317lbs, Ziemba would be a big G, and at a position that
needs better talent, he could bring respectability to the right side. Besides, Harbaugh
likes to use extra linemen to block during run plays. We would have one of the largest
lines in the NFL. Yes nocal81, I stole this from you too, but it makes perfect sence.
Nice but here is the ultimate 49er draft; think Def Backfield draft of 1981...
Rd 1 #7
Patrick Peterson, CB LSU
or
Prince Amukmara, CB Neb
Rd 2
Curtis Brown, CB Texas
or
Pernell McPhee, DE Miss St
Rd3
Dontay Moch, OLB Nevada
or
Cliff Matthews, DE SC
Rd4a
Sione Fua, DT Stanford
Rd4b
Rashad Carmichael, CB VT
Rd5
Markus White, DE Florida St
or
Owen Marecic FB/LB Stanford
Rd6a
Chase Beeler, C/G Stanford
Rd6b
Richard Sherman, WR Stanford
Rd7a
Mario Harvey, ILB Marshall
Rd7b
Terrence Toliver, WR LSU
or
Ricardo Lockette, WR Ft Valley St
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