2011 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock Conference Call Transcript
NFL Network draft guru Mike Mayock conducted a conference call with a variety of media members and the 49ers posted the transcript of that call at their Goal Posts Blog. Mayock discussed a whole host of topics and addressed one 49ers specific question:
Q. The defensive coordinator with the Niners likes to bring a lot of pressure and bring in the three‑four, they don't have a great pass‑rushing outside linebacker. Can you talk about they're picking seven, the guys that would make sense?
MIKE MAYOCK: I think that Von Miller from Texas A&M is the prototype 3‑4 rush linebacker. He's got an amazing ability to not only have a great get off and quickness, but also to bend his body to twist and turn, flatten the corner to get to a quarterback.
He's a tiny bit undersized and you've got to get yourself comfortable with that. He's not as big as a DeMarcus Ware was when he came out but I think he's tough enough to overcome that.
If you're talking about in the first round at number 7 and you're looking for an edge rusher, I think Von Miller is the guy as far as the outside linebackers are concerned. I think there are a bunch of guys, as I mentioned before, that I think the defensive end in a 3-4, you could probably pick a real good one up early in the second round.
I think some people are going to look at Clayborn from Iowa as a conversion guy, a defensive end that could play outside linebacker. Didn't have a great senior year.
And outside of that, Da'Quan Bowers and Robert Quinn are two of the most gifted pass rushers in this draft. I think they're both fitted more for a four‑three than a three‑four.
It's not exactly directly about the 49ers pick, but it gives us some thoughts on a guy the 49ers might consider with the seventh overall pick. Mayock is highly respected and he provides an opinion here that is mostly positive, but he does acknowledge a small bit of the downside of Miller. It would have been nice to hear a bit more of the Miller weaknesses.
In looking through the transcript, Mayock had some interesting opinions. One opinion that stood was his discussion of QB Blaine Gabbert. While Gabbert is climbing into the top ten of a lot of mock drafts, a lot of folks here (including me) have been a bit skeptical:
Q. I don't think anybody's close to [Gabbert] now. But you like Gabbert, right? You like his size?
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He's a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I've got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn't realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska's getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn't even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you've got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I've probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It's been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we're due for a couple of busts this year.
For the folks that aren't high on Gabbert, does Mayock's opinion cause you to re-think your opinion? He acknowledges the poor performances but seems to brush them off as something to not be too worried about. What do people think about that?
I'll post one final Q&A on a potential 49ers target, Patrick Peterson:
Q. Patrick Peterson, how do you rank him compared to Joe Haden of a year ago? And additionally, can he invade the top defensive linemen in this draft? Is he good enough to take at six?
MIKE MAYOCK: Patrick Peterson is potentially a top 10 pick, yeah. He's a big corner. Here's my take on Patrick Peterson is that whenever you see a corner of his size ‑‑ you're talking about plus or minus 220‑pound corner ‑‑ he's got a little bit of stiffness to him that the longer, bigger corners always do or usually do.
So he's most comfortable in press‑man. If you try to play him in off‑man, he's going to struggle a little bit. So I believe you need a team that's going to let him press, get up in‑your‑face, knock him out at the line of scrimmage and turn and run.
He's got a little stiffness to him, but ultimately he might be best served as a safety. I think he can play corner, but down the road a little bit, because he's a big, strong tough guy that can run, I think he might be an all pro safety.
Having said all that, it's a tough comparison with Joe Haden because Haden's a smaller, quicker guy with feet. They're different types of animals. So Patrick Peterson is certainly a guy that could be considered in the top 10. But I think it has to fit the type of team. Somebody that's going to let him get up, press, be physical at the line of scrimmage. That's where he'll be the best player he can be.
Is there anything else in Mayock's conference call that stands out to you? Particularly anything related to prospects you think could fit into the 49ers draft class?
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Thoughts on his thoughts...
I’m not high on Von Miller.
You can say the same things about him that they said about Manny when he was drafted….“he needs to get smarter and learn not to primarily use his speed because linemen at the next level are more athletic”. Replacing Manny with Miller… what has changed?
I agree on Peterson. He’d be better as a FS. He’s a freakish athlete for his large size, and he’s used that advantage well at the NCAA level. But he needs to get much better with route recognition and biting on double moves. You can hit the 6-7 yard slant on him all day long and even nobodies can beat him deep on double moves when he tries to make a highlight reel pick instead of sticking with his man.
He’ll be a damn good CB and I’d take him at #7 and start him day one.. but at FS I think his strengths would be maximized and his weaknesses covered.. and he could be a legitimate Pro Bowler year one. He won’t be as a CB, but that is what we need more.
Teams have to be careful with these guys.. raw athleticism is always a boom or bust move..
But if Peterson isn't there
I’d think Miller would still have to be the guy at 7. He’s very good as an outside rusher. And he doesn’t have great technique, but he does have a pretty effective inside move. He’s excellent against the run. The two flaws I primarily see with him is he’s not good with stunts (which maybe we wouldn’t see much of if he was here anyway), and he’s not that great in coverage. He’s a bit soft and loses track of guys behind him. But still he’d be a very good two-down guy.
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Manny vs. Von
I don’t think they are all that similar. Speed and coverage ability, yes. But if I remember correctly Manny was playing DE in a four man front at NC St. His sack production was largely the result of lining up opposite of Mario Williams. Von has shown superior pass rush ability
Well the comparison was...
That both players were speed only rushers, regardless of production or who they played with.
The point is that everybody gets so excited about these guys that dominate in college because they are more athletic than most of the opposition they face.. then they get into the NFL where everybody won the genetic lottery.. and being fast just isn’t enough.
Not sure Mayock's interpretation of Quinn
And outside of that, Da’Quan Bowers and Robert Quinn are two of the most gifted pass rushers in this draft. I think they’re both fitted more for a four‑three than a three‑four.
I agree that Bowers is better suited for a 4-3, but I think that Quinn could do well in a 3-4, contingent on his showing at the combine after missing a year. An assessment of Quinn could be really important if Peterson and Miller are already off the board.
whoops, hit quote twice meant to say
And outside of that, Da’Quan Bowers and Robert Quinn are two of the most gifted pass rushers in this draft. I think they’re both fitted more for a four‑three than a three‑four.
I agree that Bowers is better suited for a 4-3, but I think that Quinn could do well in a 3-4, contingent on his showing at the combine after missing a year. An assessment of Quinn could be really important if Peterson and Miller are already off the board.
It's all good man
I’d guess that Mayock thinks Quinn would do better in a 4-3 simply because that’s what he played in college. If the most is going to be made of him I’m thinking that’s what he will play. Otherwise he might be more of a 3rd down OLB in a 3-4. I don’t think an OLB is picked in the 1st solely for that purpose.
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thanks
I’d agree that the 7th pick shouldn’t be wasted on a 3rd down OLB, I was going on CBS sports analysis that Quinn could easily transition into an every down OLB.
I guess the question would be whether with 7th pick you take a guy that might not make that transition. If miller and petereson are gone, then maybe.
If Miller and Peterson are both gone.. trade back if possible or Cameron Jordan
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I’ve always enjoyed watching Mayock on NFL Network. He brings up some interesting points.
I think Miller would be a nice addition to the pass rush. But if Miller was gone by 7 and Bowers and Quinn would be available, the 49ers would certainly do well with either one. We would instantly add pressure with Justin Smith on the right side and have consistent pressure from the left with either Bowers or Quinn. Quinn was a beast already for UNC before he got suspended. Many say he would not be in shape. So if he shows up in shape and has good combine scores we should draft him right?
Blain Gabbert would be an ideal choice because of his accuracy. What would it take for Gabbert to lead the 49ers back to the playoffs? Would he be able to? I don’t know. I still would like to think that our best option right now until there’s a new CBA would be Alex Smith. We can draft Locker or Painter in the 2nd round or strike a trade for Kolb or Palmer, which means we will be giving up our 2nd rounder. But that’s only if theres a new CBA. Otherwise draft a rookie in the 2nd round which means Gabbert will be taken way before that. The 49ers have to go with defense first.
If Patrick Peterson is best suited to play safety then I don’t think we should draft him because we already have enough safeties in Goldson, Mays, and Smith. We need fast and quick corners that can play man. So it makes it ideal for the 49ers to address the front seven by going after a pass rusher in Bowers, Quinn, or Miller.
Ponder maybe?
Painter already plays for the Colts.
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This is going to be tough
I really like Miller, and yet CB is our biggest need. If we can pick up a good CB in the 2nd then get Miller, but if we can’t and we can get a CB in the 2nd and can get a good OLB than that settles it for me.
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Patrick Peterson may be a Little stiff in the hips, but what he lacks in his ability to turn his hips...
He makes up for in speed, agility, hight, size, jumping ability, instincts, and his natural ability to just be a playmaker…….LaBron James has the body of a Power Forward, but can play all 5 positions. PP has the problem that James has…..They were cast in the form of a Greek demigod! Sure PP is 220lbs, but still moves like a 190lbs guy.
Once Mays comes into his own, the amount of speed and coverage in our secondary would be great.
Take PP at #7…we need a lock down CB.
Miller is too
light to be an every down player. If he is drafted to be a pass rusher then no 7 is to high for a 3rd down pass rusher. I think he will wear down trying to set the edge as an every down player.
gonna have to get a qb in the 2nd
If we get a pass rush guy in the first then that means we wouldn’t get a corner till the third and there is a hugh drop off in talent. would be nice to get the guy from texas if we can’t get pp in the first.
Aaron Williams. I'd be good with him
From what I’ve seen of him he looks like he’ll be pretty good. If he’s anything close to as good as Earl Thomas, he’ll be great. But he looks like a pretty physical player and a decent cover guy.
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by Mangoman on Feb 18, 2011 2:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If Quinn and Miller are both fast, highly productive pass rushers
why not error on the side of size and select Quinn if given the asked to choose?
because Quinn is more of a 4-3 end..
than either a 3-4 end or a 3-4 OLB.
It used to be that 3-4 teams had it easy.. there were 3 or 4 of them and everybody else in the league had trouble finding pass rushing DE’s and the 3-4 teams were taking the guys too small to play on the line and using them to tear it up at OLB.
Now that half the league works the 3-4… it’s almost better to be a 4-3 team.
We would be in a much better situation.. we wouldn’t have to pay Franklin.. just move Soap inside with RJF as tackles… draft Cameron Jordan at #7, Willis stays at Mike, Lawson would be a beastly Sam, and Bowman is a Will.
Do you think he Quinn would be an effective 3-4 OLB, let alone worthy of the 7th pick?
We would be in a much better situation.. we wouldn’t have to pay Franklin.. just move Soap inside with RJF as tackles… draft Cameron Jordan at #7, Willis stays at Mike, Lawson would be a beastly Sam, and Bowman is a Will.
I like Jordan a lot (Cal season ticket holder), but he would be most effective as a strong side DE, playing left end in the 4-3, IMO; which is tough to draft as the 7th overall pick. But the besides the point; that’s a good observation.
Wow didn't know Mike was a racist
he compared Peterson and Haden to animals…. What is exactly is that suppose to mean?!
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What Mayock said is actually a common figure of speech.
Not racist in anyway.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
And Harbamania. And the San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series season.
by Hoopers Judge on Feb 18, 2011 5:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
haha i know
it was just sarcasm. Like when you call an unstoppable athlete a “beast” i.e. Adrian Peterson
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Von Miller first rd, Aaron Williams second rd, Pat Devlin third rd hopefully ??
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