Dashon Goldson: A Guy Many 49ers Fans Love To Hate
Alex Smith has always been the guy who bore the brunt of fan displeasure. Although it wasn't quite as crazy as the booing and "We Want Carr!" chants from this past season, he's always been the favorite whipping boy of 49ers fans. This past year saw Dashon Goldson take that title for the defensive side of the ball as he appeared to struggle after a strong impact season in 2009.
Florida Danny had an interesting take on Goldson's 2009 season HERE:
The 5th-most surprising stat you probably didn't know is another double-whammy:
- Dashon Goldson's 51 tackles on completed passes was the 3rd-highest total among Ss. He also ranked 3rd with 11 completion stops.
So, going back to the last discussion, Goldson was easily one of the most productive Ss in the league. I was absolutely shocked when I saw this. I knew Goldson was good. I knew he has a bright future ahead of him. I knew for damn sure that he's better than Mark Roman. What I didn't know is that he's a tackling machine. Rather, I always figured his skills were in the "create turnovers" and "lay wood" mold of FSs, not the "I'm the last line of defense" mold.
I was excited about Goldson's potential after 2009 and figured he'd be one of the keys to the 49ers defense in 2010. However, if we look at just the numbers, the man called The Hawk was not quite the ball hawk in 2010 that most of us would have preferred. After a 2009 that included a 3 forced fumbles, 2 sacks, finishing second in tackles, and snagging a team-leading four interceptions, Goldson's 2010 saw only one interception and one sack, and a drop in tackles. Additionally a lot of folks were all over him for his play in general.
Matt Maiocco has been putting together some positional reviews and he had this to say about Goldson in his post on the entire secondary:
It was Goldson's first year calling the defensive signals, and it's difficult to say if that might have affected his comfort level. He was playing with several injuries, too. Goldson's output dropped ... in 2010 ... He was not involved in many key plays throughout the season. Yet, in speaking with the coaches, Goldson got high marks for fulfilling his defensive assignments and keeping the ball in front of him. Still, it was a disappointing season because he did not make the kind of impact one would've expected from him in his second season as a starter. He is unsigned for 2011, but -- depending on the new CBA -- might be a restricted free agent as a four-year veteran.
Ninjames will have his own thorough analysis of Goldson with his secondary "Long Look Back, Brief Look Forward" but I really wanted to single out Goldson for discussion at this point. Although he's going to be a free agent, he'll be restricted and I would be a bit surprised if he wasn't back in 2011. Once/if the CBA is figured out, it will come down to what kind of contract he is offered on the open market. If it's a big contract the 49ers may or may not choose to match it, which would mean he's a free man to sign with that other team.
The question at this point is whether you want to see him back, and whether the green dot and injury stuff affects your opinion of Goldson's 2010 season. Nobody wants to hear excuses but they still are something to factor in when assessing an individual's performance.
For the folks who are down on Goldson, I'm curious how compare the success he had in 2009 with what happened last year. The team has a new coaching staff so it's hard to fully account for the "high marks for fulfilling his defensive assignments and keeping the ball in front of him." The coaching staff he worked with is gone (and Jim Tomsula in his role as DC likely didn't deal with Goldson regularly) so we have to factor that into the assessment.
What can we make of Dashon Goldson heading into 2011, if he is in fact brought back. Or would you strongly prefer he not be brought back next year?
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He missed plenty of tackles due to poor technique
that upsets me. He’s athletic and young and I hope he does better this year if he’s retained. He did bite on some fakes and wasn’t always keeping the ball in front of him but I suppose no safety can be perfect. I’m hoping the disarray in the Singletarian organization was at fault for all of it.
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
I say we offer a potted plant a contract before we re-sign Goldson.
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another risk-reward player?
No thank you
by mcwagner on Feb 2, 2011 11:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
that upsets me
I love fans post stuff like this.
“His play has upset me. "
It’s a game. No need to get “upset” about anything. Comments like this are typically from the lunatic demanding fans that think they know the game. I’d be willing to bet that you have no idea what “poor” or “proper” technique is. Feel free to make a follow up post explaining in detail what made Goldson a “poor technique” tackler. Can’t wait for this one.
Although I will say, it was quite funny when Dashon clowned you on twitter a few months back when you just HAD to mention him in an @ message saying he wasn’t a pro bowler. Get off your high horse, guy.
by BustaTheRippa on Feb 2, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
He bites on far too many fakes
and for someone who wanted a mega-deal after playing just 8 good games in the NFL, I wouldn’t be disappointed if we let him walk
Ok to go.
Personally, I think he got a lot of tackles due to being out of posistion. Secondly, I want interceptions not tackles. lastly, I would say witnout a doubt he gave up 5 TD’s to bad reads and pump fakes.
JG
stats
Maybe he had those tackles and stops because opposing teams picked on him. If the receiver is covered well, or pass is broken up, or the team just avoids him altogether it will not show on the stat sheet. I recall a lot of plays with him taking bad angles and missing takles
by mcwagner on Feb 2, 2011 8:38 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
For players without several years of play to review...
I am giving a pass on making judgements. I am willing to lump a massive amount of blame on the coaching staff this past season. Individually the coaches may have been good, but top-down it was a mess.
I just don’t have the expertise to judge many of the skill positions, or the knowldege to guess. But there seemed to be an overall drop in production for the team (with limited exceptions) which really has me looking once again at coaching and scheme rather than individual player issues.
That doesn’t help write articles to fill the void that is the offseason, but it is how I see it.
i'd like to see dashon return
we have a good young fs who struggles in pass coverage and a young potentially good ss (mays) who’s rep is that he was used to playing deep in college and is struggling to adjust to playing up towards the line, right? i could potentially see these guys forming a formidable secondary if they could learn to play together. i.e. mays over the top and goldson in the box covering TEs and RBs.
also, we have to be realistic. we arent going to go out and replace all our players who struggled last year with big name FAs. its just not possible. we need to resign manny, spikes, goldson, and franklin if possible. then we try and land one big name FA. hopefully Hali (unless we can draft Von Miller- which i would LOVE) have them replace parys, rush the passer and allow manny to utilize his skills in coverage. we wont go after Namdi or Champ because we pay Nate so much.
if he's a RFA they will retain him. If UFA it depends on his price
I’m find with retaining him, but he’s not getting top$$
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
Clements
I think there was talk of reducing Nate’s pay this year or else he wasn’t coming back. If Nate doesn’t come back because he doesn’t want to take a pay cut, does that mean we still owe him all the money on his contract? If that isn’t true, I could see us making a play at either Namdi or Bailey but personally, I don’t think Namdi leaves Oakland. Al Davis isn’t THAT senile.
Screw 2010, hoping to get LUCKy in 2011.
I would let him go if..
I can get Clements to reduce his pay and move him to safety with Smith or Mays. Sign a corner in Nnambdi or Champ and draft Peterson or Amakamura or any corner who could start opposette.
by wtlichens on Feb 2, 2011 9:19 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Weddle is overrated
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Feb 2, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
This is why missed tackles needs to be an official stat
really hard to judge a players efficiency because the missed tackles stand out way more than your average tackle
His stats may say he was the third best Ss, but I think another veteran in his place could produce similar stats. He deserves an average contract for an average starting Ss.
I never really got down on Goldston
I do think he played well, but he just didn’t get notice with forcing turnovers. Also, the rest of the secondary (especially the CBs) played so poorly it makes it hard to think anyone in that lame unit was playing well.
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Just really goes to show you how special ronnie lott was i'm more ancious how much
harbaugh knows about mays did they go up against each other atleast once n does he likes mays?
by Jayubb415rebirth on Feb 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Being in the Midwest, I didn't get a chance to see all the games
However it seemed like I watched alot of highlights where Goldson was chasing people into the endzone. I also watched alot of deep balls completed where he would arrive a couple of seconds too late to break up the pass. If you watch footage of other safeties in the league, there are times that they are on the opposite side of the field when the pass is released, yet still manage to get to the ball to pick it off or at least break it up. The 49ers need an upgrade at the position, and could possibly sign him for depth. They definately do not need to overpay to keep him.
+1
I agree.
Dashon Goldson’s 51 tackles on completed passes was the 3rd-highest total among Ss.
Here’s the problem, Goldson should be preventing the catches.
by Thrashard340 on Feb 2, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Potential
Goldson is a solid FS, he doesn’t deserve top FS money but i think a decent 3 year offer may do the job. If he wants to get greedy then we should just let him go.
Might as well get something for him though
Give him at least an original round tender. If another team signs him to an offer sheet that we’re not willing to match, at least we get an additional fourth round pick.
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this
takes safeties 3 years to develop. Reggie, Mays, Maragos, Taylor, Spillman and a veteran could work out well. I like Curtis Taylor and I think he could be coached up to play adequately as a backup. Smith is a good player he just needs good coaching and scheme. Mays will be good in due time too.
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
obv. not 6 safeties after camp...
so Maragos might end up back on PS, Spillman might not come back either.
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
FS is in the top four positions of need
If this CBA gets done soon enough, we should be paying a good amount of attention to this area. Goldson is by no means in the top tier, but is still a very serviceable FS. We need to offer him at best a 2nd round tender if he’s a RFA. But at the same time we should see who we can possibly attract through FA and maybe pick someone up in the draft with our mid-late round picks. Although the draft is not the most vital of the three options IMO.
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idk, I'm interested to see what Donatell thinks he can do with the guys we have,
Goldson included should he be retained as RFA or come back on a decent deal…I see a lot of potential in Reggie Smith and Taylor Mays and Curtis Taylor has looked average at times, could be a nice backup. Maragos is a good special teamer and gutty kind of player, Spillman is good ST’s player too, esp now that Seely is here.
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
ST's
You’re not kidding about that. I think Seeley’s PR & KR coverage teams were ranked in the top 5 in the league.
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anyone catch the stat about Pittsburgh's return game being bottom in the NFL?
guess who their ST’s coord is?!?
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
I don't know what to say about Dashon...
Our cornerback play is just so mediocre. He IS the last line of defense, but just how often do you really want that last line tested? What I mean is, if the corner had done his job more proficiently in the first place, the safety wouldn’t be on the hook for defending the deep ball as often. (Depending on coverage scheme of course)
He gets a bye
These constant reports saying he kept rating high on the coaching grades tells me the issue was at in least part due to coaching.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
What? He is garbage at FS, may do better at SS.
Blaming the db coach I hope!!!!
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
That dance makes me miss Merton Hanks all the more
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he was jerkin
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
he was auditioning for dancing with the stars.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 2, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
it was dre bly.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
He was practicing doing the "dirty bird" 'cause he's gonna be a falcon or eagle next year.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
the play that sticks in my memory
memory is spencer getting beat then turning around and yelling at spencer rather then make the tackle.
did goldhson not make a mistake on that play or not?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
I've got an idea, let's blow it all up!
That’s right, only one that stays is Taylor Mays and he’s on a one year short leash. First, we draft Peterson or Anakamura with the no. 7 pick. There’s one corner. Second, we sign Nnamdi Asomugha for 4 yrs. at ten mil. per year. That’s the other corner. Lastly, we release Clements because he has hugely underachieved and really wouldn’t be that good of a safety. From that money that we save, we sign Champ Bailey, whom has already made it known that he would love to switch to safety so that he could extend his career. He has the speed, smarts and savvy to be a great free safety. There you go! Fully remade defensive backfield with youth, speed, talent and experience. Four new ballhawks and a top ten finish defensively. The 49ers should just hire me now I’m such a genius!
Nnamdi will not come here.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Agree - - bring in Champ Bailey as a REAL All Pro FS
That and Prince/Peterson with #1 pick starts in a direction that will make the secondary a source of strength next year and beyond.
2011-'12 Campaign
Reggie Smith – FS
Taylor Mays – SS
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
by Drew Kerr on Feb 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Feb 2, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
The question is why do player's that seem to be on the rise regress ...
… all across the board on the Defense player’s regressed … Franklin , P Willy , Goldy , Manny , etc , etc … ( IMO ) this leave’s the answer to coaching or lack of , this two deep soft shell zone that was implemented on the player’s put then in a no win situation to suceed , therefore I want Goldy back because i can see through the haze …!!
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Lawson? Regressed? Really?
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by mikeinsp on Feb 2, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Goldson is good.
Improvement can be made though. We’ll have to see if Fangio can bring out the Fangs in him again.
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His problems were not due to a lack of athletic ability. We saw last year that he has the ability to be a good player. I agree, let’s see what the new coach can do with him
by mcwagner on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
FO predicted his downfall
They said he would regress to the norm.
Which he did.
He was never an elite safety.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
That's his problem
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Feb 3, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Only bring him back if
he promises to tackle with his hands instead of his shoulder pads.
How about some stats on missed tackles? Where does he rank there?
And also: wouldnt the niners generally good rush defense mean the opposition would pass more, and therefore mean more tackles for the DBs? I havent looked it up, just a thought.
i dont understand
If all these dbs are solid, or top tier in the division, then why were opposing qbs lighting it up in the passing game
Lets see
Goldson isn’t the best cover safety. I think he’s alright but he’s not blanketing the middle of the field.
The coaching staff had a hard time deciding upon a SS. Getting rid of Lewis was a necessary step. Mays wasn’t ready and the coaches refused to buy into Reggie Smith until the very end of the season.
Clements is the teams best cover guy but he can only cover one at a time.
Spencer had an awful season, absolutely dreadful.
Tarell Brown isn’t the best nickel back. He was exploited quite often in heavy WR sets.
Finally the pass rush isn’t good enough to cover the secondary’s holes. Offenses began attacking Spencer and Brown religiously and could always take their shots at the safeties because the pass rush wouldn’t get there.
It's Whore-baugh, remember?
Personally I think Dashon will do good next year
with whichever team. He will have 4+ int’s. Trust me.
I like him, he’s not a guy I will bash, even though I know his play wasn’t good. But I’m not sure whether I want him to come back. I kinda want Mays to get starting exp.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Reggie is more of a "hawk" than Goldson.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I wouldn't mind him coming back.
Believe me, he will have at least 4 int’s next year. The injuries and having to call out the plays hurt him.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Just not at an insane price.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Eh hmmmmm, I called this spade a spade last year. Hawk my ass, he is worthless, range-less, and altogether horrid. The most overrated niners coming in this year. Plus he’s a douche, he’s slow when the balls in the air, he should be a SS.
Don't make me "JEEBUS" you!!!!
seriously?
Do you have thoughts on his performance from 2009?
by David Fucillo on Feb 2, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
I won't be sad if #38 is gone next year.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Just as long as he doesn't stay in the NFCW.
He seems like the type of guy that would head-hunt for revenge.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Should be (thehawk30)
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
2011-'12 STARTING FREE SAFETY

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
2011-'12 STARTING STRONG SAFETY

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
you mean the guy wrapped up by a 2nd defender?
Hell, I can knock someone out running at full speed when someone has them by the legs.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 3, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Well then
maybe you are the answer at safety for the Niners this year. Why don’t you see if you can get a tryout this summer, and we will see if you can knock somebody out.
He's probably better than Goldson
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Feb 3, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
2011-'12 STARTING CORNERS
Patrick Peterson
Nnamdi Asomugha
Nate Clements (nickel corner)
Problems solved.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
That would be really sweet
You tease
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Feb 3, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions

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