49ers Guards: Long Look Back, Brief Look Forward
The 49ers addressed their offensive line early on in the 2010 NFL Draft, netting two day one starters in the first round. As a whole, I think we saw an improved unit out there in run blocking and more importantly: pass protection. One of the bigger problems was overall inexperience on the right side of the line, which will need to be looked at and potentially addressed in the offseason, training camp and preseason going forward. That isn't to say that there needs to definitely be a change at one or more positions, just that the coaches really need to be sure that they are comfortable with where they're at.
Iupati was the second draft pick for the Niners in the 2010 NFL Draft, at number seventeen of the first round. It was a pick almost universally accepted on Niners Nation, if my memory serves. At the draft party in Santa Clara, the place blew up with the cheers and applause, which made me happy as a fan. Iupati was considered the top guard prospect in the draft and potentially the top guard prospect in many years coming out of college.
So did he live up to the hype? I believe that he did, which a small falter here and there. The most telling thing about Iupati for me is that I can remember some of his best games while not being able to seriously recall his bad games, when I am someone who generally cannot help but focus on the negative. When I think of a handful of 49ers players, I'm always drawn to discussing their bad games and poor performances, but with Iupati, I am focused on week six at home against the Oakland Raiders where he and Anthony Davis put on a show, mauling over Oakland's underrated defensive line. I think of week two against the New Orleans Saints on Monday night, where Iupati made a statement coming off of a so-so performance in Seattle.
Many would agree with me in my line of thought that he showed a lot of good things. He made Pro Football Weekly's All-Rookie team and our own Fooch listed him as one 49ers player who you should have your eye on in regards to the 2011-2012 NFL Pro Bowl. He won't do so if his level of play stays where it was in 2010, but progression between his rookie and sophomore NFL season will be key.
I'd label his struggles almost exclusively on general line instability and inexperience. Joe Staley was banged up, Eric Heitmann was lost in training camp/preseason and the right side of the line is the picture of inexperience with Anthony Davis and the man listed after the jump. Look for Iupati to progress on his own and be a force for the Jim Harbaugh's running game, and look for him to be even better if the rest of the guys improve at even around the same level I expect him to.
After the jump, we look at the other guard options on the 49ers roster, the 2011 free agents for the position and of course, the 2011 NFL draft ...
Chilo was given his job as a favorite of Mike Singletary, to put it very bluntly. He was directly in competition with Snyder once Anthony Davis was named the starter at right tackle, and he was actually out-performed there in both training camp and the preseason. But despite wanting to occasionally "knock 'im out," Singletary went with Rachal, though there is a good, logical reason for that. He has always been viewed as a "high potential," player, with many physical tools at his disposal.
Physical tools that hadn't been really illustrated up to that point. Chilo was known as the guy who was prone to making mental errors and prone to getting put on his butt by mid-tier defensive linemen. He doesn't pull well and he doesn't get out into space, at least that was the label going into the early part of 2010. Many have claimed that Chilo was the weakest part of the line in 2010, and I'd like to dispel the notion even a little bit.
Rachal was not the weakest link in 2010, and in fact, I think there are two-to-three positions on the five-person line that were arguably worse than the right guard spot Rachal occupies. It is true that there were games here and there where Chilo was definitely the weak link, there were times when he made mistakes and gave up scary sacks or let Frank Gore get absolutely blasted. There were times when he'd give up terrible holding penalties in crucial situations, but week-in and week-out, I saw Rachal putting out a whole ton of effort to improve, and he did.
As the season wore on, he progressed nicely. It's the kind of progression you need to see, but rarely do, out of a young guy playing next to a high-ceilinged rookie and an injury replacement on either side of him. He started to dominate defensive linemen, and he actually opened up some holes for Brian Westbrook and Anthony Dixon. The biggest problem with his progression is that it's something we've seen before. Rachal has played well at the end of a season before, and this may be no different.
He's still got a lot of potential, but if that potential is only on display for eight games out of sixteen, is he really worth it? I honestly can't answer that question right now, and going forward it is probably the least stable position on the offensive line, though not necessarily the worst as it stands.
Snyder was initially competing with Anthony Davis for the starting job at right tackle, but he fell short and it was declared early on that Davis would be getting the job. Then, Heitmann went down with an injury and Snyder once again found himself competing for a top spot against Rachal for the right guard spot. He played well in the preseason and he impressed in training camp, but he never quite became the definitive starter.
In week two, Snyder played at right guard. One could argue that the line was at its best in that game, and it's something I won't dispute. In fact, I was calling for Chilo's benching right in line with the couple times that it actually happened. I said, and I quote: "All I know is: Adam Snyder has played better than Chilo every time he's got the chance to. Just sayin'."
It was true for the most part. He's obviously not the most solid guard in the league, but with two rookies with high star potential and a very solid left tackle, can the 49ers really hope to be drafting a right guard high or bringing in a big name free agent and go overkill on their line? Or is it much more likely that they hope three of the five can be stars while the other two are at least serviceable starters? I'm going with the latter, and Snyder is the definition of a serviceable starter at the guard position, and he showed it in 2010.
He will get a chance to do it again, and if he plays like he did early on in 2010, he might have something going for him with Singletary out of the picture.
Baas is going to be right in the thick of the 49ers center position in 2011. He was the primary backup when Eric Heitmann went down, and as outlined in the Long Look Back, Brief Look Forward post for said center position. I'm not going to look back too much, you can read my thoughts there. He started mini-and-training camps in 2010 battling Mike Iupati for the left guard job, but it was clear early on that he wasn't going to win it. The fact remains that he is still a guard and can make a case for time going forward if he's not "the guy" at center.
Tony Wragge looked alright in training camp and the preseason, and I honestly can't say much more than that. He's a below average starter and an emergency backup option at both guard positions and perhaps even the center position. Going forward with Wragge will depend on many things, like the health of Eric Heitmann, the contract status of Baas, the backup potential of Alex Boone at right tackle and the availability to backup both guard positions of Adam Snyder. Not a lot going in his favor.
Looking Ahead
Well, Mike Iupati is the starter at the left guard spot going forward and that will not be up-for-grabs. As I said, I'm looking for him to progress nicely and that is set. At right guard, there are potentially four players on the current roster (including Baas) who could be competing for it. The core battle will be between Chilo Rachal and Adam Snyder, and in my mind, Rachal is the favorite going forward between the two. After those two, however, we come to David Baas and Eric Heitmann. Heitmann began his NFL career as a guard, and if he's healthy, he'll be looking for another starting spot. If the team re-signs Baas and decides that they like him as a center, I could see Heitmann battling and winning the right guard job.
And on the flip-side to that, if Hetimann is healthy and wins the starting center job, Baas (if re-signed) could find himself battling for the right guard spot! There's much to consider just internally, but I personally love the idea of a line composed of Staley-Iupati-Baas-Heitmann-Davis. To me, having Eric Heitmann at right guard gives Davis, the second-year tackle, an awful lot of veteran presence to help.
Free Agency
Harvey Dahl, Atlanta Falcons: Dahl is 30 years old and maybe the best offensive lineman on the Falcons. He's not going to get any better than he is right now, but that is still potentially an improvement for the 49ers. He won't be too expensive and I consider him a solid option going forward if the 49ers let David Baas walk (and still consider him a guard)
Richie Incognito, Miami Dolphins: Well, the 49ers brought in Jeff Reed, so they're not opposed to general douchebaggery on their roster. (sidenote: tickled pink that I've already marked the word 'douchebaggery' as NOT a spelling error in my browser's dictionary) Incognito has done a great job of turning around his career in Miami, and seems to have come a long way mentally. He was a very strong right guard and will come cheap this offseason.
Chris Chester, Baltimore Ravens: He's another solid right guard that will come very cheap, and could beat Rachal and Snyder for a starting job if need be.
Justin Blalock, Atlanta Falcons
Davin Joseph, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Kyle DeVan, Indianapolis Colts
Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans
Deuce Lutui, Arizona Cardinals
2011 NFL Draft
It is very unlikely that the 49ers bring in a guard early on in the draft, and it's unlikely they bring in a guard later on that they believe can compete right away. More inexperience is not what they need on the right side of that line (or the line in general), and it would be unwise to put a rookie in there next to the second-year Anthony Davis. They're not going to find themselves with a Mike Pouncey in the first or second round, and they're not going to grab a high-potential guy like Rodney Hudson, even if he falls far.
Either way, do check out Draft Tek's positional rankings for offensive guards in the upcoming draft, and peruse our own Drew K's look at offensive linemen who has a lot to gain and lose at the 2011 Scouting Combine.
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I would like to see Heitmann return to center and Baas play right guard. I think that would be our best group of lineman. I just hope Heitmann’s knee does’t effect him as bad as it did for Jeremy Newberry.
by Willy G on Feb 21, 2011 12:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That wouldn't bother me
As long as Baas could play guard as well as he played center this past year. He never impressed me as a guard the years before.
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I would most likely cream myself if the other pouncey(markise? or somethin like that) fell to us in the second…he would definitely solidify our rg and potentially our whole line with staley and baas healthy and some progression from chilo and davis
by texasniner06 on Feb 21, 2011 12:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I sincerely doubt it … I just don’t see how we can put that much inexperience on the line.
by James Brady on Feb 21, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
It's Mike Pouncey...Maurkice is the twin brother that is a Pro Bowler for Pit...But no we don't Mike.
Not because he is a bad player but he is going to be a highly rated prospect and there is no need to spend our early draft picks on Pouncey.
Our O- line is something that all fans should be very excited about! First off the one huge thing is that Mike Solari is staying around and he is actually a very good coach. Not to mention he will now have the help of Roman and the other coaches brought over from Stanford to keep improving!
Next big thing is noted in the article and that is Mike Iupati who is an absolute beast and barring injuries and setbacks should be a Pro Bowler for many years to come! Also Staley should be able to recover and if he can stay injury free that left side of the O-line is going to be solid in pass blocking and it is going to be wide open for Frank to blast through!
The center position is one of possible concern depending on the contract situations with Baas, but let me remind you that a healthy Eric Heitmann was and will be our true starting center and he is no slouch and will be a great center for hopefully a couple more years…he is getting old. And I believe he is a Stanford alum so he has got to be excited about playing for Harbaugh.
The right side of the line is definitely the most “hit and miss” you could say. There is no doubt that Chilo has shown the potential that gets RB’s excited with his pancake blocks and his ability to clear running lanes…but then there are times when you watch him and ask how is this kid and NFL guard?? But when it is all said and done I think a little more continuity between him and Anthony on his right and Chilo should be a quality guard.
That brings me to my final point which is Anthony Davis, our first draft pick last season…and from what I read in different posts also the reason some people cant sleep at night! But have no fear the KID will step it up. And the key word here is KID. People need to be aware that yes he was a high draft pick and has some serious expectations to live up to…especially since Iupati who was picked just after him had such a great rookie season…but Davis is only 21 and will turn 22 next season in October! He came out of college early and is still a young man maturing and growing while trying to learn a new offense and begin a career in the NFL! I honestly believe that we need to give him the next two season before people start to throw him under the bus and look for a replacement! I believe he will turn out to be a solid RT but he needs to get a feel for Harbaugh’s new offense and hopefully he now has a feel for the NFL and the competition he will be facing every down!!
LOL “the moral of the story is…” Our O-Line is something to really look forward to in the upcoming season and it is definitely going to be a strong point to build around in the future!!!
Mike Pouncey is a beast, just like his brother...
There is no way we reach for a lineman in the first round, but if Pouncey were to fall to 47th pick, it’s hard not to take him considering how much potential he has. This would make our line complete in my opinion. The only question mark I see right now is the RG spot. But chances are he doesnt fall to us in the second so this is a moot point. I’m hoping Benjamin Ijalana falls to the third because this guy is a beast. But again, not gonna happen because he will probably have a huge combine and jump to the early-mid 2nd.
I would stick with Chilo
Profootballfocus says that we have the best interior line in the NFL. Why change it?
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chilo only really has issues with pass protection. with davis having more experience that will probably help next year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 21, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I'd go with Chilo...
If he continues on his improvement at the end of the season. I’d like for us to keep Baas if possible but if not, there are going to be some cheap FA’s that could immediately step in and keep us solid!
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by wellnesscoach on Feb 21, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think we have to address the O-line in the draft..
But somewhere in the late middle to late rounds… 5th to 7th, possibly one of our 4ths if a 3rd round talent guy drops.
And not an immediate starter, but for depth to develop. I think we’ll lose a couple linemen to age, injury, and FA in the next year or two, and I’d like a guy with some coaching to be on the depth chart rather than another rookie.
i think bass is going to be resigned and that would only leave chilo expiring next year. I think chilo will also resign. bass is the oldest lineman and I think he has 4-5 years left in him.
I do not see wragge sticking around for another 2-3 years though and I think he will be replaced in the draft.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 21, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
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with the same people starting next to him for the second year in a row, i think improvement shall be seen from him.
and picking at the end of the season is exactly what you want to see from any football player. any lineup changes on the o-line might actually hurt it. with bass hopefully resigned and two years under the rookies belt. the line should be looking more like the 0-line at the end of last season not the beginning. looking forward to iupati making the pro-bowl maybe even an all pro type year.
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That's pretty sad...
It looks like Chilo Rachal is getting more air in that picture than Crabtree, haha
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Then what do you think they're doing? A Vegas show dance???
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
Ya thats exactly what I think they are doing.
Maybe the high step on tippy toes.
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Ideal?
I think that’s easy to answer. It’s Rachal.
My ideal scenario is, Chilo takes the next step, becomes more consistent, and is our starter in 2011. That’s ideal. I don’t know how anyone could vote for anything other than Rachal. He is young, athletic, and reasonably priced, he needs to turn in on going forward.
To me, he is the unquestioned starter for the 1st game in 2011 if we have a season.
You don't know how anyone could vote for anything other than Rachal?
Sorry, but I’m still huge on Heitmann. He was the best, and perhaps “ideal” wasn’t the best word here. It’s nice to be able to assume Rachal can make that next step, but it’s not guaranteed.
Rachal
Isn’t the ideal situation that the much younger Rachal does actually improve and take over the position. With Heitmann getting older, isn’t having a soon to be 25 year old plugged in at right guard ideal? It may not necessarily be the most realistic option, but if we’re talking ideal, having a guy who’s 6 years younger seems to be the best option.
by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
This
Rachel has better potential than Bass and center would still be locked up by Heitmann.
Nothing is guaranteed but IDEAL is the word I'm hanging on
Ideal would be a 25 year old guy turning it on, and not Heitmann who is older and is a Center playing RG like Fooch said below.
I mean ... it's like ... the spirit of the question is based on what we know
Based on what you’ve seen from Chilo Rachal, do believe enough in his potential to think he will make that jump? I’m just limited on my poll options when I need to include four known people and several possible unknown people.
Actually, I do think he will improve
I still think he is our best option going forward. He is 25 years old, and a good, but inconsistent RG. I think it’s the better option than moving our starting center to RG, and having Baas fill his position. We get the best continuity by having Heitmann back at Center, and Rachal back at RG.
I think Baas filled in admirably but I think he probably struggled a little on calling out protections. Just seemed too often thhere was a blocker that ran free, and I think it’s becuase Baas wasn’t assigning them correctly. I’d rather go back to our core offensive group, and give Rachal the job in 2011. If he struggles, then he goes, but I still think he is our best option. I’d rather have him there, which completes the YOUNG OL instead of an older guy like Baas, or Heitmann.
I said it was likely he would improve and that I'm a supporter of him.
We’re not exactly on different waves here.
James, how would rank the offensive line by position last season? t
You eluded to your own rankings by position in the article.
I'd Trade Staley
And have Boone start at LT, or kick Davis over to LT and let Boone play RT.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Thanks for mentioning Boone. I've asked this question a couple of times, never got an answer:
I’ve not seen much tape on Boone, so I’m not too familiar with his skill set (only with how hard he worked on rebuilding his attitude and his body last off-season). Does anyone have any knowledge of his skill set? Could he possibly be tried at right guard? The worst that could happen is that Chilo steps up and convincingly wins the right guard position, and that Boone can now play guard and tackle, making him even more valuable as a back-up.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I don't think he's a guard
but he can play LT or RT. Solari never even entertained him as anything else.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
So make Davis relearn everything, and stick him on the QB’s blind side while in pass protection? That’s asking for your QB to go down to injury. Boone should be the backup swing tackle next year, with Staley and Davis as the regular bookends.
its different but he's still young
and he’ll have two coaches this time. Plus I like the idea of having him next to Iupati! Its more striaght forward to have him as backup tackle as you said, but if we can get something nice fore Staley it may be worth considering.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Also I think LT might be his strong side
He would have been there with any other team who didn’t already have a Staley in place.
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I love that Boone is suddenly more valuable than Staley … I mean, what do you see that I don’t?
by James Brady on Feb 21, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not saying he's more valuable
I’m more thinking that we have a very strong line with a lot of other glaring needs. LT’s aren’t easy to come by and we may actually have 3 on the roster!
What I would like to see is what kind of trade value Staley would have.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
That doesn't make very much sense.
Oh wait, you have Alex Boone as your pic, okay I understand now.
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let me add
Davis has quicker feet and a better punch than Staley. I think he’s a better LT; that’s where he has his most value. Staley however is no RT.
Therefore, if Boone is a legit starting RT then the best value overall would be Davis at LT and Boone at RT assuming we can get something nice in return for Staley.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
that's not a feasible plan. too much youth. too much inexperience. I don't like it.
and I’ve been a huge supporter of boone since we signed him
what if heitman is back at C or Snyder at RG
You could end up with
Davis, Iupati, Heitman, Bass, Boone or
Davis, Iupati, Bass, Synder, Boone
backups would be T-Sims, G\C Heitman\Snyder (with a worst case 2nd T) or ,Rachal or Wragge and then maybe a FA Backup Tackle
I think that’s a good balance of youth and experience. Don’t underestimate what we could get in return for Staley.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I don’t think it’s a good balance of youth and experience because we have not seen anything from Boone.
true
he did play a quarter against AZ right? The other thing is Staley has missed 7 games in the last two seasons with injuries. I’m not saying he’s injury prone, but its not like he’s been locking the position down. In 09 Sims actually outplayed staley.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

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