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Piggybacking on Sando's What happened to the flagship 49ers
In case you missed it Sando wrote a thoughtful article about the 49ers fall from grace titled What happened to the flagship 49ers. The beauty of the article was Sando turned to 49ers fans to share their insight and astute observations to fill in the details.
I can't really cite the entire article so I'll give a quick summation (the link to the article is provided above). In short, the consensus thesis was the 49ers fell from grace because the team lost their owner and in turn lost their traditions, style of play, key leaders including the front office and link to great players of the past.
It's probably a must read. If not thought provoking it's at least the voice of observant 49ers fans. Admittedly got my mind turning and thought I'd try to elaborate more on the details since Sando mostly focused on the quotes.
Traditions & Style of Play
First and foremost we are talking about Walsh's offense, better known as the West Coast Offense (WCO). Short passes, quick reads, slants, hitches, curls, posts, arrows, check downs mixed in with an effective, yet sneakily dynamic running game to force the defense defend the entire field. The 49ers really haven't had a good offense since they abandoned the WCO.
Every once in awhile I like to pop in an old 49ers tape and watch the offense work. Surprising the first thing that always sticks out is the running game. Sweep left, pitch right, off tackle schemes always bouncing to the outside. The offense could attack the edge and do it consistently. Outside runs were a staple of the offense and Ricky Watters was really the best, he'd do it for entire drives. The defense couldn't contain it. Linebackers lack the athleticism to defend the edge while corners and safeties have to sit back and honor the pass. It is a pick your poison offense, stop the outside run or open holes in the passing defense. We need to get to back to running the ball constantly to the outside than counter, trick the defense running the ball inside. Defensive players haven't evolved so attacking them at the edge with sweeps and short passes for YAC should still be effective.
One beneficial development for the WCO is the development the Tampa 2 defense that cropped up in the late 90's. The Tampa 2 plants two cornerbacks in the flat to rough up the receivers at the line scrimmage and challenge any short or quick passes to the outside. Unfortunately can't exploit those two cornerbacks deep because the defense also plants two safeties deep to the outside. Can take your chances running slants towards the middle but the odds are good the middle linebacker in his exclusive inside zone will plant a kill shot on the wide receiver. The deep middle zone can also be difficult to attack since that special breed of Tampa 2 linebacker can also double as a deep inside safety. Still there are two crippling weaknesses on the Tamp 2 defense to exploit. Hammer the ball up the gut using small, athletic WCO offensive linemen. Or have the traditional WCO QB rifle deep 15 yard out passes in-between the safeties and shallow corners.
The good news is Jim Harbaugh is arriving to restore the 49ers roots to the WCO. In his press conference he promised to install the WCO and already uses its terminology. Since the hire I've been study Harbaugh's teams at Stanford. For a lack of better description he runs a macho version of the WCO. He's got this wrinkle of lining up six offensive linemen or three tight ends in his formations to beef up his power run game. He does a fantastic job of confusing the defense with multiple pre-snap shifts and is so detailed in his play calling his offense hardly ever shows the same sequence of shifts twice although underneath he's really re-running the same basic plays. His best attribute is how he works with quarterbacks. He's renowned for taking non-descriptive quarterbacks and producing great seasons out of them, best yet he's performed this magic act with multiple non-descript quarterbacks. Harbaugh version of the WCO aligns closely with the lineage of Joe Gibbs.
49ers style and traditional also has a place on defense. Currently the 49ers are at a crossroad with Nolan's imported 3-4 Ravens style defense. The running aspect of the defense has produced fantastic results but the passing aspect continues to flounder. In today's modern NFL it's passing that counts. The team lacks any notable outside linebacker to attack the quarterback and what they currently have is likely to be expunged from the roster. The question is simple, if the 3-4 isn't slowing the pass down then why not consider transitioning back to the traditional 4-3 defense? At least it would solve the Manny Lawson roster issue. He's never proven to produce a consistent pass rush so let's consider switching to a 4-3 defense because Manny is an ideal weakside linebacker.
The 4-3 defense has always worked for the 49ers. George Seifert innovated the defense in 1984 with the concept of a defensive line rotation with specialized players for down and distance situations. In many regards it outperformed the revered 1985 Bears defense, although historians haven't taken much notice all the NFL did, copying and adopting Seifert's defensive line rotation by 1987. The linchpin of the defense is a strong pass rushing defensive end. The 49ers had back to back Hall of Famers in Fred Dean and Charles Haley (some day). They did not find a comparable defensive end throughout the 90's but it wasn't for lack of effort spending half their draft picks on the project. Eventually the 49ers did find Julian Peterson who so stood out amongst the defensive cast you could call it the Julian Peterson defense.
The Ownership Change
Exit Eddie D. and his two decades of championship runs and enter John York with an ongoing decade of futility. 49ers fans know the line of demarcation is clearly here in a direct cause and effect relationship relating figuratively and literally to the team owner.
Eddie D. would have preserved the franchise model assured to flourish in the next decade and beyond. It's still a mystery as to why Eddie D. started releasing key players and trimming payroll in 1998 and 1999. He certainly didn't believe in holding his football team to a budget. To his credit he wanted to reverse course and continue his spend at all cost path. With a dilapidated, crumbling bottom tier revenue generating stadium Eddie D. certainly had the financial clout to win this ongoing arms race. When it comes to ownership it's always a question of desire, Eddie D. had it while John York scuttles desire in favor of a budget and so called inherited salary cap hell excuses.
Eddie D. wasn't the only key exit, long time stewards and front office personnel were ushered out during the York takeover. Names like Carmen Policy, Dwight Clark and Michael Lombardi in an Aeneid like fable relocated a dynasty to Cleveland. The roster architects who initiated the coup of JJ Stokes, drafts of Jim Drunkenmiller, Reggie McGrew, Israel Ifeanyi, R.W. McQuarters and their long list of retired players who would remain on the payroll for years to come were gone eventually leaving the franchise in hands of incompetent Terry Donahue. Eddie D. relinquished the team due to a gambling/political bribe scandal in 2000 but he must have pre-known York's disdain for the front office because Eddie initiated the house cleaning prior to York, reinstalling Walsh who remained with the team until he choose his successor in Donahue upon retirement.
One fact we do know is Eddie D. never would have fired Steve Marcucci, the coup de grâce of John York's tenure when all tradition was severed and why the franchise is stuck in its current state. Eddie D. had a long track record of remaining patient with coaches who had multiple playoff failures piling up. Marcucci had his system in place with a stable cast of WCO pieces to carry out a long stable run. Pocket passer Jeff Garcia, two 1000 yard rushers and a passing offense that distributed the ball all over the field: T.O. short, T.O. intermediate and T.O. long. This sever didn't just occur with the Marcucci firing but the non traditional hiring of Dennis Erickson, a popular Pac-10 offensive guru who never would have caught the eye of Eddie D.
Loss of Leadership
One befuddling aspect of the York regime which infuriates the fans the most is a disconnect between the current team and the great 49ers players of the past. For such a cheap family they sure have a sophisticated security system to keep retired players outside team headquarters. The young developing 49ers could benefit from the wisdom of old decorated titans who know how to walk the chosen path. Why wouldn't decade old retired players who have moved on with their lives want to spend their time sitting around a locker room dispensing advice?
I've been watching from afar but Terry Bradshaw has done a masterful job stewarding Ben Roethlisberger to his third Super Bowl appearance, their personal bond cannot be broken. Troy Polamalu and James Harrison gained a special motivation to push themselves to Defensive MVP honors from constant team dinner pep talks from Mean Joe Greene. Still Pittsburgh's greatest weapon has been dusting off the old Steel Curtain 4-3 defensive playbook and whatchamacallingit to their current league leading 3-4 defensive scheme. I guess I shouldn't praise Pittsburgh yet, Packers superstar James Starks can still crush Pittsburgh Sunday by getting a seal here and a seal here and constantly running Vince Lombardi's play down the alley! These are franchises that remain on top because they cling to a literal interpretation of their past success.
Never mind the 49ers were unable to draft enough great players in the 90's and early 00's to carry on and teach the great tradition to young, developing players today. We had Bryant Young but he eventually had to retire and wanted to get into coaching. T.O. decided he wanted to keep playing despite his close knit ties to the organization. Julian Peterson thought it would be best to have the franchise tag placed on him then sign elsewhere to reload the constantly rebuilding 49ers with more draft picks. The point is if we could just get Joe to show up for a halftime ceremony he might dispense a halftime adjustment which could win a game. Maybe Steve Young can open up the film vault and teach courses in the offseason. We the fans have a pulse on this. We see where the 49ers franchise lost it and deep down know clearly how to get the winning ways back. 49ers fans have always been criticized for being forward looking, let's switch focus and start living in the past.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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This is by far...
what a Front Page article should be.
Make it so.
I would gladly give my keys to bignerd for the Front Page. This is how it’s done. I have been begging bignerd to to write here.
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wow...
Applauding yourself? Well played!
by David Fucillo on Feb 6, 2011 2:45 AM PST up reply actions
agree on the post
With the Super Bowl coming up later today we’ve got several posts scheduled but I’ll work to move this to the front page sometime tomorrow around lunch time.
by David Fucillo on Feb 6, 2011 2:36 AM PST up reply actions
cat pictures?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 6, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
We know you're busy
But except for one particularly well known fan post where you were completely wrong (hehe), your stuff is refreshing, well thought out, and well worth the read.
Rec’d.
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
Cliff notes...
before I attempt to “troll” your ‘article’, I will ask how you define “our”, and “we”, when it comes to the West Coast Offense.
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The Bradshaw and Roethlisberger part made me laugh
They hate each other. They have for a while. However, they are linked and Bradshaw is always the bigger man and tries to help Ben. Its like a father-son relationship. No mater how frustrated Terry gets, he still always comes back. Joe and Steve will not do the same thing. Joe seems to want to move on with his life and be an average Joe. Steve wants to be professional and not have bias towards his former team. I suppose we have to count on Jerry again.
Also: great article. We have to understand the past before we move on to the future.
Amazing Read!
I knew a bit of what you talked about, but just how you went into deep detail that i didn’t know about, (because i grew up not paying too much attention to football because i didnt have anyone to watch it with me and didnt know much about it till my teens). This read really opened up other doors that i didnt know were there. Please write more on the Front Page if you can!!
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What would the Niners need to do
to transition to a 4-3 this year? Could Fangio pull that off?
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
LOL
The ball got distributed all over the field: TO short, TO intermediate, TO deep
Carmen Policy left and began the football dynasty in cleveland
hahahahaha awesome
Am I the only one that sees some holes in this?
It’s a good article but I take issue with the following…
1. “Defensive players haven’t evolved”. Yes they absolutely have evolved. They are bigger and faster and exploiting the edge isn’t as easy as it once was. Ricky Watters wouldn’t be an outside runner today not with the speed at LB in the NFL right now.
2. The Tampa 2 was actually exploited by the WCO which is why it’s a dying breed right now. Very few teams if any run a straight Tampa 2 defense right now so bringing back the WCO to take advantage of that defense is so 1990.
3. It’s not the 3-4 the Ravens run that’s the issue nowadays. The 3-4 Zone Blitz that LeBeau mastered is the defense that came out to handle the WCO and still does a good job of it today. That’s the future of the NFL which is why the WCO has evolved and will continue to.
4. Why did they cut salary in 1999? For the same reason the Cowboys did. Carmen Policy realized very early on when the Salary Cap was instituted in 1994 that there was a loophole with the signing bonus being pro rated over the life of the contract. Policy restructured contracts to defered salary to later years, specifically 1999 when he thought the cap would increase DRASTICALLY due to all the new stadiums and revenue streams. It’s not a secret that is some crazy conspiracy. We bet wrong, and paid for it. So did the Cowboys. Eddie didn’t initiate the house cleaning as you said because he knew he was losing the team.
5. “49ers fans have always been criticized for being forward looking, let’s switch focus and start living in the past.” While there is always a lot to learn from the past, the NFL constantly evolves and looking into the past, instead of the modern NFL is where people fail. Singletary is a PERFECT example of that. He tried to re-create a slice of history in the 1985 Bears, and we know how that turned out. Harbaugh said it perfectly in Maicco’s article regarding how this is a league that adapts very quickly. He mentioned a pass play that burned a bunch of teams for about 4-5 weeks in the NFL but then by the 10th week they had already taken it away. It’s a league that is very fluid and changes from one week to the next. Something that worked in Week 5, may not work in Week 6. Something that worked in the 90’s, may not work now, let alone to base your team around it.
Overall, good article, just needed a little more research into it. It was a feel good article, but not really one that stood up aside from that.
You my friend are satire blind
You nailed most of the points I was trying to make. My only disagreement with your comments is is the Tampa 2 being exploited by WCO. It’s been exploited by the Coryell offense ran by the Greatest Show on Turf Rams, Patriots, Colts, etc. Where the Tampa 2 countered the WCO by putting a lot of coverage underneath the Coryell offense counters the Tampa 2 by flooding and overwhelming the deep zone.
So WCO did exploit the Tampa 2?
That’s what I said.
I guess I don’t understand how I’m satire blind? I felt like I read exactly what you wrote, I disagreed with, and made valid statements back. I don’t get how I made your point when you said defensive players havn’t evolved, or when you said it’s a mystery why they cut salary in 1999, etc…I didn’t feel like it was a satiracal article at all but maybe it’s because I am blind.
No..
The WCO is designed to use timing routes to get separation and YAC and use the short to intermediate pass as an augmented running game.
The Cover 2 is designed to shut down the short to intermediate passing tree, disrupt timing routes, and place a 4 to 5 man wide zone from sideline to sideline to counter the WCO’s attempts to stretch the field horizontally.
You’ve got it backwards.. the Cover 2 and especially the Tampa 2 are the reason why the WCO is fading out or being forced to incorporate methods from different offensive schemes.
No...
“The Tampa 2 is particularly effective against teams who are playing with a lead, because it limits big plays. It forces offenses to be patient and to settle for short gains and time-consuming drives.6 This may be due to the nature of the “bend-but-don’t-break” 2-deep zone coverage scheme and responsibilities safeties play in the Tampa 2. Teams that have been successful against this defense have managed to run the ball up the middle past the defensive tackles, or throw passes in the seams between the outside linebackers and the cornerbacks"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_2#cite_note-5
Psses in the seams like a slant? WCO all day. Tampa 2 was around and WCO hurt it because it is based on short quick timing passes. That’s when the league started going to a 3-4 Zone Blitz like the Steelers run.
WCO info…
Bill Walsh’s West Coast Offense differs from traditional offense by emphasizing a short, horizontal passing attack to help stretch the defense out, thus opening up options for longer running plays and longer passes that can achieve greater gains. The West Coast Offense as implemented under Walsh features precisely run pass patterns by the receivers that make up about 65% to 80% of the offensive scheme.
Walsh’s West Coast Offense attempts to open up running and passing lanes for the backs and receivers to exploit, by causing the defense to concentrate on short passes. Since most down and distance situations can be attacked with a pass or a run, the intent is to make offensive play calling unpredictable and thus keep the defense’s play “honest”, forcing defenders to be prepared for a multitude of possible offensive plays rather than focussing aggressively on one likely play from the offense.
When it comes to X's and O's...
Don’t quote Wikipedia. Nobody who knows what they are talking about will ever quote Wikipedia on any subject. Especially football.. since you have to have a link to supporting data.. and what you see is links to newspaper sportswriters and SI.. which are both horrible places to look for accurate information on football strategy.
The Cover 2 / Tampa 2 matches up well against the WCO because it takes away what you are trying to do. You are trying to stretch the field horizontally, and the Cover 2 puts 5 zones at the intersection of the short and intermediate passing routes stretching from sideline to sideline.
You want to throw 3-4 yard slants all day.. fine.. they’ll let you complete them and hammer your guys a second after the ball gets there. Unfortunately you are going to usually have to go to your 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read because of how well they jam guys off the line of scrimmage which completely screws up your timing.
By then you are going to start seeing guys jumping your routes.
Attacking the Cover/Tampa 2 with the short to intermediate passing game is suicide because that is what THEY WANT YOU TO DO.. that is what these defenses are designed to let you have until they can jump a route and take one the other way for 6.
You want to attack a Cover 2, you go back to simple assignment/execution football with the power running game and high/low read passing game. They are built with smaller faster players, so you run off tackle, counter lead, power trap, and use a 7 step drop PA with a X skinny post, Y Z fade, TE seam, RB wheel to flood the deep zone with more routes than the 2 deep safeties can cover and let your RB find the hole where some underneath zone assignment is going to have to bail deep.
The Tampa 2 was an innovation by Monte Kiffin to mitigate the deep zone flood strategy by employing a smaller faster MLB to play a 3rd deep zone, and speedy LB’s who can cover more ground in only 4 sideline to sideline underneath zones. It works much better than the Cover 2 but you have to have the athletes at all positions to make it work… see… the 2002 Super Bowl team which was offensively mediocre but was defensively an all star unit.
I call BS
Nobody who knows what they are talking about will ever quote Wikipedia on any subject. Especially football.
See this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Willis
I am on the watchlist for this page. I make sure the information on this page is accurate and referenced.
I’ve even contributed to some of the material on this page. Here is one of my contributions:
Patrick Willis is regarded by many as the best inside linebacker in professional football.
Wiki for the most part is fairly accurate.
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
Shallow in depth of information and analysis...
like all encyclopedias. Being online and collaborative doesn’t make it any different than Brittanica… worse.. it means any idiot can edit it.. and worse still.. any idiot with political wiki-clout can lock their pet pages down when real experts in the field try to correct mistakes and outright untruths.
Go to an expert in any field and talk with them about their niche and see how many of them quote Wikipedia or Brittanica.
They won’t… because they actually know something.
Oh.. and btw...
“Regarded by many” are weasel words for “this is my opinion”.
So much for unbiased objective accuracy… even if I share the opinion.
Haha
weasel words… I’ve had many before you make that accusation. Some people just don’t like references…
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
Accuracy
Check out what I said:
Wiki for the most part is fairly accurate.
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
So instead of wikipedia that sources their information
with sports writers, and such. I should use YOU who has absolutely no sources except yourself.
How do you think people learn about WCO or Tampa 2 stuff? It’s written in books and magazines from people that study it themselves.
You are telling me not to source Wikipedia (which already does the digging for you or you can’t post to that site, and instead listen to you who is sourcing nobody but yourself?
Listen, the Tampa 2 has two safeties over the top to make the Offense play short hoping that you string 10 plays together to march 80 yards instead of 1. That’s EXACTLY what Walsh’s WCO did perfectly.
There is a great article on the 3-4 Zone Blitz that LeBeau mastered, and it specifically talks about how Tampa 2 was the rage, and then the WCO started to find the holes in the zone, and how the 3-4 is now starting to become the in vogue defense because it does a great job disguising the blitz and coverage. Essentially the WCO does a great job with hot reads, if the blitz is coming from the right side, they throw quick to that spot. If they disguise it, making the blitz look like it’s coming from the right, when the guy is actually dropping back, that’s the effectiveness. It’s EXACTLY how the Steelers pulled off that HUGE INT – TD in the Superbowl vs. the Cardinals.
Tampa 2 covers the deep stuff. There is a huge hole between the Corners and the LBs, which is perfect for the slant. TEs also do pretty well in Tampa 2 by running seam routes. Slants and crossing patterns were big in the WCO which is exactly what you run to combat a Tampa 2 defense.
Yes, please, quote a book.. because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
The Cover 2 hopes you try to go 80 yards in 10 plays because you are playing into their strength. They are flooding the underneath zones with defenders and ONLY dropping the 2 safeties back.. .instead of sending the CB’s back and having safety help over the top.
What defense hopes you do something that attacks their weakness? That is what you are saying and it doesn’t make any sense.
The Cover / Tampa 2 is strong against underneath routes, weak against multiple vertical routes.
Want to see what happens when a WCO system meets a well run Tampa 2 system? Watch the 2002 Super Bowl. They tried the “slants and crossing patterns” and got annihilated.
There is a hole between the CB’s and the LB’s in the lined up formation.. but the CB will be jamming the WR and following him through his zone until he reaches the point where he can hand him off to a LB. The slant that can fill that zone is a timing route… any successful jam of a WR and you can’t throw that slant… and since these CB’s never have to worry about having to turn and run… they can get good jams.
You want to run those slants… just fine.. you’ll be throwing multiple picks to outside linebackers.
Tight ends do well in the seam vs a Cover 2, but in a Tampa 2 the Mike is assigned to run with the TE or any other deep middle route.
Listen.. this is pretty simple…
Listen.. this is pretty simple…Q: How do you stop a timing based passing attack that is eating you up with the short routes.
Listen.. this is pretty simple…Q: How do you stop a timing based passing attack that is eating you up with the short routes.Right Answer: Jam the receivers to disrupt the timing, flood the underneath zones with defenders. <<<<<<< this is a cover / tampa 2.
Listen.. this is pretty simple…Q: How do you stop a timing based passing attack that is eating you up with the short routes.Right Answer: Jam the receivers to disrupt the timing, flood the underneath zones with defenders. <<<<<<< this is a cover / tampa 2.The Cover 2 isn’t dying out because the WCO is attacking it.. it’s dying out because it was designed to stop the old school WCO… and nobody is running it anymore.
+1 for Ougadas. He’s right on this one. Look at what Tampa Bay’s 2002 stellar defense did to Bill Callahan’s WCO in the superbowl.
In fact, Al Davis has been quoted before that he doesn’t like the WCO because the Tampa 2 was created to stop it.
by BustaTheRippa on Feb 12, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
2 big errors
Pocket passer Jeff Garcia,
Garcia was hardly a pocket passer. He was an overachieving jackrabbit that held the offense back. Routinely, he failed to stand in the pocket and go through all of his reads, and tried making plays with his feet. He was the antithesis of a pocket passer.
This sever didn’t just occur with the Marcucci firing but the non traditional hiring of Dennis Erickson, a popular Pac-10 offensive guru who never would have caught the eye of Eddie D.
And where did Eddie D find Walsh? Was it, my gosh, the Pac 10? And where did Harbaugh come from, who you praised so much in this post?

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