2011 NFL Combine: Patrick Peterson vs. Prince Amukamara In Cornerback Positional Drills
The 2011 NFL Combine wraps up today with the cornerback drills. For 49ers fans this could be a particularly big day as the cornerbacks will be going through the various drills. You can watch the defensive backs run their drills on NFL Network or through nfl.com's live camera. The 40-yard dashes will happen at 9am and 10:30am, with positional drills scheduled for 10am and 11:30am.
Two names connected fairly frequently with the 49ers over the last few weeks are LSU CB Patrick Peterson and Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara. The 49ers have a need at cornerback and Peterson and Amukamara represent the top two options at the position. Peterson and Amukamara both spoke with the press this weekend. Peterson indicated he feels he's fluid enough to stick as a cornerback, rather than potentially move to safety as some have projected. Amukamara was quite confident as he indicated he felt he was the better cornerback as compared to Peterson.
Today's drills will really drive home the cornerback pecking order particularly as it applies to those two. Although the 40-yard dash isn't some big indicator of success, combining it with performance in the other drills would likely be enough to secure top billing for Patrick Peterson. If he runs a sub-4.3 40 and does a solid job (doesn't even have to be great) in the positional drills, Peterson will be the first cornerback taken. He could be average at best in the positional drills and he would still likely be the first corner taken.
As to those positional drills? Well, Mike Mayock breaks them down for you at NFL.com's Combine page. One of the primary drills is what Mayock calls the Speed-Turn Drill. In this drill the defensive back is sent backpedaling 5-10 yards and then brought back towards the coach. As the defensive back is coming back towards the coach, the DB is then given a specific direction towards which he is expected to make a "speed turn." It's apparently meant to simulate the idea of a double move so a DB can show they can turn and go upfield with a wide receiver. At around the 15-20 yard mark, the defensive back is expected to turn back towards the quarterback and locate and catch the football.
There have been some question marks about whether Patrick Peterson is a bit too stiff in the hips and some have said he'll end up as a safety at the NFL level. While this drill won't tell us even close to the entire story about Patrick Peterson, it does give us one more bit of info. Additionally, his performance in the three-cone drill and shuttle run. In the three-cone drill a player has to show he can change directions at high speed. It might not be traditional directional moves of a corner, but it at least simulates lateral movements. The same holds true for the shuttle run.
These measurements aren't the be-all, end-all of a player's draft stock (as much as some folks might indicate otherwise). However, in this world of instantaneous analysis, a strong Combine performance today would secure draft positioning for both Peterson and Amukamara. For Peterson it would likely mean a top seven draft slot. For Amukamara, it could get him in the top ten, if not higher.
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4.4 or higher 40 times… Thanks to the lack of QB and OL he can go top 5
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No. Way.
Peterson ran 4.32 and 4.37 and Jimmy Smith ran a 4.37 and 4.44
Gimme either one over Von
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 1, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
absolutely
cb in first, qb in second…..olb in third…….unless we are able to trade down and pick up an extra pick in second….but…cb,qb,olb
Agree.
Peterson should be our first pick if he is available. BPA and Need too!
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by wellnesscoach on Mar 1, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
That DB from Idaho
Shiloh Keo is looking pretty good…he’s very fluid and has fast soft feet…id be interested to pick him up for the Safety or CB spot.
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The only knock was they said he ran a 4.72 40
He looks like he hustles and works, though.
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by Blank x2 on Mar 1, 2011 8:50 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
yea, he does
sure his 40 time wasnt spectacular, but they say that a 4.5 40 is fast for safties, so im not too worried bout him being .2ish seconds slower than average..and his technique and work ethic is spectacular!
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What about Prince running a 4.37?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Mar 1, 2011 10:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I missed that one.
They are all top 10 worthy.
On another note Deion for as great a corner as he is doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. He’s just echoing everything Mayock says. And Mayock doesn’t like being wrong about Jimmy Smith so he’s finding every opportunity he can to say he’s stiff in the hips when he’s actually been very fluid considering he’s almost 6’3"
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 1, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not that high on Smith
he has some character concerns and not that great of a tackler. They may not be deal breakers by themselves but when Prince and Peterson are more complete corners, I’d not take Smith in the top 10.
As far as Deion goes, I don’t care what he says because at least he’s enjoyable to watch.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Mar 1, 2011 10:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Aha... serves me right for not reading the news today.
I’d want to know more about the drug test.
Mary J, don’t really care.
Two possessions of alcohol as a minor? Don’t care.
A DUI, that I’d care about.
If you discount every kid who smokes a little weed or drinks before 21 you won’t have a draft.
Now if it’s something heavier than the Mary J.. then we have major issues and I wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole.
Pretty much the way I feel about it
If he slips to the 2nd I don’t see how we don’t take him even if we already got PP.
If we came out of this draft with 2 #1 caliber corners our team would improve so much its ridiculous. And he’s such a lockdown guy teams would have to throw at PP who would give QBs just enough rope to hang themselves.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 1, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Think if that happened...
By year two of that setup we could keep the same guys in our OLB corps and double our sack numbers.
deion though made a great point, you can’t simply say he’s fluid for 6’2", you need to be fluid for an NFL CB. that’s why you rarely see corners that big.
He isn't that fluid.
That’s why you really want this kid if you are going to play mostly press man looks and maybe want to take him much later if you play lots of zone or off man looks.
Maybe you should take up your lobbying effort on the Raiders blog
They play a lot of press man. What happened to Jimmy Smith’s projected 4.25 40 yard time?
Um who said Jimmy Smith was gonna run a 4.25?
People were talking about him running a 4.55!
He ran almost 2 tenths below that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 1, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
I said a week or so back the word was that he was running in the 4.3s while people were talking about speed concerns
And today he went and did just that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 1, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
You'll have to dig that one up.
This is all I have said about Smith’s 40 time pre-combine.
I still have some concerns..
With his off zone, speed, and run support.
The first two will come out in the combine where we’ll see if he’s more of a 4.5 or 4.4 or possibly sub 4.4 guy.
I did find some other posters referencing Pro Football Talk who said he ran an un-official 4.35 at some point in time, but nothing in that same thread about a 4.25.
And since I just went back and searched all the comments on my profile for “4.25” and found absolutely nothing…
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With that combine perfomance there is no way PP falls to number seven :(
by knightj on Mar 1, 2011 10:39 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Still think he does
but even if he doesn’t all the concerns about Prince people raised pretty much got squashed today too
I had those concerns about Prince
They aren’t there anymore. Prince was very impressive.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 1, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
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by manraj7 on Mar 1, 2011 12:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Just for that
I want him on the niners….as long as it’s not a reach
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I only watched one Colorado game this year, against Cal. But Cal has two NFL caliber receivers (Marvin Jones & Keenan Allen), and I thought that they had to earn every catch and yard. The Buffaloes had a below average pass rush, but their two corners still made Cal QB Kevin Riley and receivers work hard. Just my two cents.
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Given that Kevin Riley is atrocious, I wouldn’t try to gleen anything about what the next level will be like if a Kevin Riley lead team has success against you.
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by bonbrillio on Mar 1, 2011 2:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
kinda off topic, but
how rad would it be to have two guys named patrick on our d

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