2011 NFL Draft: 49ers In Attendance For Reportedly Strong Christian Ponder NFL Pro Day
by David Fucillo on Mar 16, 2011 6:00 PM PDT
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PrintFlorida State apparently held their 2011 NFL Pro Day today, which meant Christian Ponder got to put on a display for NFL scouts. I didn't have them on the table of Pro Days, but I know not every school is listed. The 49ers sent out scout Matt Malaspina as Ponder would seem to be a guy on the 49ers radar. Although he's created some very divided opinions here at Niners Nation, he's a quarterback and the 49ers are going to check out most quarterbacks. Additionally, he's a guy that some people think could fit into a West Coast offense scheme.
The public was not in attendance at the Pro Day but it sounds like the media was allowed in to observe. I say this because there have been a variety of tweets about the event quoting people like Mike Mayock. Unless Mayock was just guessing about how it went, I have to believe he was in attendance. Mayock reportedly said that Ponder had "[a]bove average arm strength. Excellent footwork. He continues to ascend."
Does a strong Pro Day make any difference to people with a negative opinion of what Ponder brings to the table. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I'm curious if this affects it in one way or another. One thing of note is that since FSU had no senior wide receivers on hand, retired wide receiver Isaac Bruce filled in as he is a client of Ponder's agent Jimmy Sexton (tip of the cap to Sam Lam for that tidbit). Bruce was an excellent NFL wide receiver so does that help or hurt Ponder's case? Or does it really not matter at this point?
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Hope ponder is there late in the first and niners can trade up for him.
hope dalton or kaepernick are there in a later round.
that would be good competition.
would the niners take ponder with the 7th pick?
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Drew might not like it
but I think Ponder has to be a strong candidate for the 2nd rounder if he’s available.
Sad sign
I’m more excited about Isaac Bruce working out with him than anything else.
by mcwagner on Mar 16, 2011 6:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
OK, I’ll bite. How is Isaac Bruce a douche?
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by James Brady on Mar 17, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
because it rhymes
and I never really liked his attitude and there’s absolutely no football to talk about
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
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by James Brady on Mar 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Pro Days for QBs only matter if you have a fabulous O-line
Alex had an all-time performance at his pro day which was what sealed him going ahead of Rodgers.
The only problem? He wasn’t getting hit in the mouth every time he threw the ball, which is of course his biggest NFL problem
Gimme 1 round!
Important point!
Gotta see the pressures he was under. If was avoiding pressure, then good, if he just didn’t have much pressure, then untested. Just ask Carr as well.
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by wellnesscoach on Mar 16, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
you always have the best pictorials
but by far the nate davis one was the best.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 16, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruce
Since NFL players weren’t allowed to help out at the combine, having Bruce there is a cool thing. Getting a chance to throw to a guy that is one of the best WRs ever is kinda cool. Plus it definitely should raise his draft stock.
His quick release and good footwork would be a strong fit for the WCO IMO
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He has poor footwork.
His steps are too short and too long which leads to crazy wobbly overthrown ducks like we saw in the Senior Bowl
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
get off the "poor footwork" thing.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 16, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
footwork
What do you make of Mayock’s comments about him having excellent footwork today? Is it your assumption that it’s a one time thing that he might have looked good today?
by David Fucillo on Mar 16, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at the video
I can pull up a few clips on youtube where he short steps in to his passes and leans on his back foot when he releases causing the ball to sail high on him nearly everytime he does that… it’s a really bad habit.
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It's the only reference I have.. it's not like I can go to Fooch's house, pull up a game and say. "see what I mean"
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youtube clips from high school do not count.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 17, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Had good footwork today
And had a pretty good overall Senior Bowl.
Footwork can be taught and learned and corrected. His other skills already make him a pretty good candidate from the WCO.
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Mayock says other wise. he is more informed than you. In football
by ericalancanty on Mar 16, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Let him speak his case on this .. Mayock is my most trusted draft guy, but that doesn’t mean something he says automatically is right. It’s opinion.
Though I, obviously side with Mayock in this case. Ponder is good and I’ve never really questioned his footwork.
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by James Brady on Mar 16, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, 'cause Mayock NEVER misses on prospects.
In fact, quarterbacks are one of his worst area’s of expertise. He is great at evaluating talent on the defensive side of the ball… and receivers, but other than that, it’s 50/ 50 just like anyone else. Mike Mayock is not the end all be all…. not saying that I am, but he has this one pegged wrong, and so do a lot of other folks.
I can’t wait to use both these Ponder threads later on when he becomes what I (and others) are claiming he is. Or is not in his case…
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
this
he’s a quarterback and the 49ers are going to check out most quarterback
Kaepernick is a five hour drive from Santa Clara. What else are they going to do?
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
but Tahoe is so far away from Florida
Harbaugh hits the halfpipe
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
i predict
another 49er QB controversy in 2012-13 with Andrew Luck and Christian Ponder. haha
with the 7th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select.......
You never know.
He could pull a Locker and go from being a contender for number 1 overall one year to being out of the first round the next year.
Because his drop would probably be a reflection of having a poor O-Line and not as great coaching.
Same reason as Locker. It could be possible that his weaknesses gets exposed to the world. It could also happen that something comes up with his character, aka his rumored anger problems.
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Speaking of Locker
if he’s available in the 2nd I’d take him too. Seems like he’s being forgotten about with the popular new kids, but what he managed to do with that horrible offensive line he had is impressive to me
Don't forget about all of the dropped passes 41 compared to Luck's 17.
Also all of the throw aways that counted as incompletions. I am going to see if I can find every game of this season and see if I can see how many throws were thrown away/dropped and write a post up on it.
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I'd suggest
You also chart where he was throwing. I’ve only seen a few games but it appears he didn’t throw a lot of bubble screens and hitches like you see in most college offenses.
I'm going to ask some huskie fans if they have the games on him. I will try to find as many as I can on espn3 and the such.
Just going to do this season though.
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Actually if I can get Ponder's tape and Locker's tape I could do a duel piece on them.
Compare the two. How deep the passes, the location (sideline, down the middle), how many were thrown away, and other things. Man I am getting excited. Of course I am going to do this before April so that it would actually be relevant. I will start working on it tomorrow. I could get a couple of Locker’s game because they are on youtube but not a lot. I posted a fan shot on UW Dawg Pound (I think thats the name of the site) hopefully I get a bite soon. I will keep yall informed on how its going.
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Niners trade up into the end of the 1st round to grab Ponder.
by ericalancanty on Mar 16, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
this is likeliest scenario to me
He might not be worth a late first to many people, but Gabbert/Newton aren’t really worth top 5 picks either but I bet you one of them goes there. It’s about opportunity to get a guy sometimes. If the 49ers fear Ponder could be off the board before their 2nd round pick, they’ll move up to be sure they get him. Obviously I’d rather it be with our original 2nd, but I wouldn’t be upset if we gave up a few mid-to-late picks to get him
Draft EVERYONE!
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A 3rd? IDK...
people risking top 5 picks on QB’s is a HUGE risk. Ponder had an injury that messed up his throws and production. I think he’s every bit as talented in the right system as any of the other QB’s
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
Harbaugh attending Gabbert's pro day today
but I can’t believe the ‘niners take a QB in the 7 spot. I still think they take a CB or DE/OLB, and take a QB in round 2 (or trade up into the latter part of the 1st round). In that scenario, I like both Dalton and Ponder. Ponder threw some ducks at the senior bowl, but my FSU friends swear he’s under-appreciated because of the injury and the lousy D he played with. Maybe they’re being homers, who knows. I watched some of clips people put up here (thanks) and have cooled on Locker. I know there’s a lot of interest in CK, but I listen to what Mayock and others say and then watch the film and it sure seems like they’re right – he’s got a long wind up and a funky motion – does that work in a WCO? Other than that, he seems like a hell of an athlete with a rocket arm…
i really hope so
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 17, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
how athletic is he really?
he may have turned corners at NV but I don’t think that will work at the next level
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
don't think a rocket arm is a great fit in the WCO
especially with a long motion and playing under the gun to boot. Still, he’s a good kid.
Draft EVERYONE!
Tvittah
You know...
People say “Gabbert’s pro day”
But it really is “Missouri pro day”
There are other guys there, including Aldon Smith.. who Harbaugh could be looking at in case we get a damn good offer to trade down into the teens.
Maybe a trade down to the mid teens, pick up Aldon Smith as an OLB and get an additional second and fourth rounder, and then package two of our fourths to move up into the bottom of the third.
Aldon Smith, two seconds, two thirds… that could work out decent.
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