49ers 2011 Roster Confidence, Nose Tackle: Just How Much Of A Steal Is Ricky Jean Francois?
We'll be looking at various starting scenarios for the 49ers going into 2011 and the confidence that said scenario inspires. I recently finished my Long Look Back, Brief Look Forward pieces and provided a recap of all of them here, so check that out for roster review. Now it's time to look forward, and we'll start with one of the more intriguing prospects for the 49ers going forward: Ricky Jean Francois at nose tackle.
Aubrayo Franklin is a free agent and played the 2010 season on the franchise tag. With the uncertain future of the collective bargaining agreement and free agency as a whole, the 49ers may be without him. Jean Francois made considerable steps in the 2010 offseason and preseason and already seems to have exceeded his draft positioning, as he was taken all the way back in the seventh round.
If Jean Francois never pans out as a starter and has to be a backup, he'll still exceed his draft position. Teams would love to pull seven starters out of every draft, but it just doesn't happen that way, and many saw this pick as one with very little potential a guy with solid potential but a lot of inconsistency. Considering it was a seventh round pick, expectations could only be so high. He was billed as a defensive end, but Jim Tomsula and Greg Manusky took him and placed him at nose tackle, where he was considerably undersized. Undersized like Aubrayo Franklin, who isn't too shabby of a player, right?
But he's put on muscle and weight, and I imagine that will continue throughout this offseason, providing he finds a place to work out that's not the 49ers facilities. He's a quick learner, and his physical talents tell me that he will be a starter eventually, but the team's change in defensive coordinator can't help his case at all. One has to believe that someone more refined, such as Aubrayo Franklin, would have the advantage in learning a new playbook and new techniques faster.
I'd say he had an excellent preseason in 2010, taking first and second team snaps at nose tackle. Going forward, I am personally confident in his ability, but if I'm the 49ers I still make an effort to sign the 30-year old Franklin for another year or two, or perhaps I draft a guy as early as the third or fourth rounds in a class that's deep in the middle rounds at the position. I just wrote a post at SB Nation Bay Area looking at the 49ers options in the draft at the position, and I would honestly be happy with any of them.
But this post is about your confidence levels in the situation that Ricky Jean Francois is the starter at the beginning of the 2011 season. Can he succeed? The poll options will be listed as percentages, pick the option that best describes the percentage of confidence you have that Ricky Jean Francois will succeed. 10 implies that the 49ers will be improved at the position, while something like 7 implies they will probably not miss a beat. In an earlier poll on Niners Nation, Jean Francois did surprisingly well against Aubrayo Franklin.
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Teams would love to pull seven starters out of every draft, but it just doesn’t happen that way, and many saw this pick as one with very little potential
Not necessarily in this situation, but you also have to ask if he would start because he’s actually good enough, or just because he’s the best we can get.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Mar 5, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions
People actually saw this one with potential.
They said when they were studying Tyson Jackson their eyes kept following them to RJF.
RJF was the second best DT on that monster LSU DL
His injuries and off-field concerns caused him to nearly go undrafted.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Mar 5, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
lol, ricky was one of the players I was extremely excited about
I actually remember thinking it was a steal at the time
RJF
I will say that I liked him back when the 49ers grabbed him. I did a quick search and I think people actually viewed him as a guy with potential, but maybe came out a year too early:
Outstanding value; Ricky Jean-Francois was a mid-round prospect going into the draft. Depth is always needed on the defensive line. (Pick Grade: A)
Obviously the 49ers hit the jackpot with wide receiver Michael Crabtree falling to them at No. 10. Running back Glen Coffee gives the 49ers a nice one-two punch with Frank Gore. Getting inside linebacker Scott McKillop in the fifth round was a steal. Bear Pascoe is one of the best blocking tight ends in the draft, and the two LSU kids (Curtis Taylor and Ricky Jean-Francois) were great pickups in the seventh round.
Freaky Ricky
is going to be the kind of steal that they tell you about in grade school:
The one you regret doing.
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by David Fuccillo (Foooch) on Mar 5, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
I continually think of this play when I imagine RJF playing NT...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeavpAliFy4
Granted it is only one play but it definitely leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Mar 5, 2011 12:40 PM PST reply actions
I don't think he did anything bad in that play
He was being blocked by the center and then got hit from the side by the left guard. Not a lot he could do there.
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1. Best CB Available 2. Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 3. DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma 4a. Best NT Available (Fua/Ellis?) 4b. Best DE Available (LSU guy?) 5. Terrence Toliver WR LSU 6a. Stanley Havili FB USC 6b. Greg McElroy QB Alabama 7. Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech
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Yes, I took two straight QBs. Got a problem, get it fixed! Taylor is a flyer pick anyways and who knows if he makes the team. McElroy can be groomed for the future. Kolb can start. Cut Carr, don't sign Alex or Troy.
If he had a third eye
he wouldn’t have gotten hit from the blindside.
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A good NT can hold
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by Sultan of Seitan on Mar 5, 2011 4:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Continued...
A good NT can hold his ground against a double team, he should’ve anticipated it.
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Mar 5, 2011 4:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I could have asked him if he thought he was a steal :P
The night of the national championship I stood right next to him while he was feeding a parking meter. I left him alone though. I didn’t feel like being a pesky fan while he was just hanging out going to watch a game!
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Nonsense
Players love it when fans bother them at every banality in their lives.
Was he feeding the meter peanut butter and jelly?
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by David Fuccillo (Foooch) on Mar 5, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nah maybe feeding it to himself but not to the meter. Has a nice 5 series BMW.
But yeah I could have spoken to him but I said forget it. He was by himself & just looked like he wanted to chill & watch the game.
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by Mangoman on Mar 5, 2011 7:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good coaching can make all the difference in the world
He has the potential to be really good. With good coaching, he can even be great. He has some raw talent to work with.
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by David Fuccillo (Foooch) on Mar 5, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Let's slow our roll a little
RJF got pushed around CONSTANTLY when he played. He still has a LONG way to go.
I'm hesitant to anoint RJF as "The Future"
but if he continues to improve I see no reason why that can’t be his ceiling.
THE MOCK DRAFT SIG RETURNS!
#7 pick shall be swapped with Philadelphia (#23) for Kevin Kolb.
1. Best CB Available 2. Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 3. DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma 4a. Best NT Available (Fua/Ellis?) 4b. Best DE Available (LSU guy?) 5. Terrence Toliver WR LSU 6a. Stanley Havili FB USC 6b. Greg McElroy QB Alabama 7. Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech
UDFA: A center
Yes, I took two straight QBs. Got a problem, get it fixed! Taylor is a flyer pick anyways and who knows if he makes the team. McElroy can be groomed for the future. Kolb can start. Cut Carr, don't sign Alex or Troy.
Surprised at the level of confidence expressed for RJF in the poll ...
I think that he can be an adequate DL backup in the NFL, but don’t see him ever becoming any more than an average starter, if he achieves that. I am assuming that we will lose AF in free agency. Therefore, believe that we must address the NT position in the draft — we can’t be sure who might be available as a FA and nobody is going to trade a better-than-average NT for a reasonable price, leaving us only with RJF.
With respect to your SB Nation Bay Area article on NTs, I believe that you have the prospect rankings backward … namely, Ellis will be drafted before Powe, whose stock appears to be dropping. As far as the Niners are concerned, Ellis is definitely the preferred prospect because he’s bigger, taller, faster, has quicker feet, and is younger and smarter; and, unlike Powe (as you pointed out) he can play DT in the 4/3 (in addition to NT in the 3/4) when Fangio calls the hybrid 4/3. At 6’ 5" and 345, Ellis is more like what has become the preferred NT model, Wilfolk and Raji. If I’m Baalke, I pick Ellis as my “NTOTF”.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Mar 5, 2011 2:02 PM PST reply actions
I voted 7
Only because I don’t want to get all Brooks and Goldson on him. It’s not that I don’t think RJF can be a solid contributor, it’s just that I don’t want to jinx him.
Hey Drew
You still wanting the niners to take JJ Watt in the first? I thought that might be little high for him, he did have a great combine but I just dont see him going in the top 15 none the less top 10. That’s why i was so surprised when you said you wanted him. I know ur from Wisc. and are a niners fan (which is weird by the way) but you need to select the BPA when picking so early.
Anyways, Big 10 tourny today, go Mich and Migh St. !!!
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RJF
Why do you assume he will only be a NT? Lots of good NT’s in mid rounds this year (Casey, Fua, Ellis, Taylor, Powe). Ricky was placed there by need last year. I see him as a left DE going forward replacing Soap.
Ahhhhhh, somebody else who thinks as I do....
I also feel that RJF’s best position is 3-4 DE. He is very talented.
LSU redshirted him as a true freshman in 2005. In 2006, as a redshirt freshman, he was a backup but played well enough in his limited role that The Sporting News named him 1st team freshman All-American.
He was then suspended for 12 months due to an off the field issue (this is why his draft stock fell so precipitously), he returned in time to play only the last two games—the 2007 SEC Championship game and then the BCS National Championship game, in which he was selected defensive MVP.
In 2008, his Junior and final college season, he injured a groin in September and wasn’t back to full speed until some time in November, as a result ended up starting only 6 games.
It appears to me that he has put his off-field issues behind him, and I thought he did a better-than-adequate job during the 2010 pre-season. If the new coaching staff (although his position coach, Tomsula, won’t be new) can find his best position, I think he can end up being a 7th round “steal” in this, his 3rd year out of college. He’s 24 yo, won’t be 25 ’til well into the season.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
RJF has quickness that will be better suited at LDE
totally agree with you.
I think he can get a couple of sacks a year
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 5, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Surprised people think RJF is just a potential backup.
RJF was second only to Glenn Dorsey (who is in the wrong system in KC but played better last season) in terms of talent on that monster DL that LSU had.
RJF doesn’t lack the talent to be an elite defensive lineman in the NFL.
He has had off-the field concerns and injury issues and if anything is going to hold him back it will be one of those two.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

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