2011 NFL Combine: It's a Wrap - Rounds 5 - 7
This is the last post in looking back at the players that could be slotted in each of these rounds as well as some of the guys that could be good fits for the 49ers.
Yesterday, we looked at the 3rd and 4th rounds and the players that may be a good fit should they be around. The later rounds are perhaps about as easy to predict as picking winning lotto numbers for a multi-million dollar jackpot. Okay, okay... maybe not that hard, but it's definitely not easy.
There's been players in each draft that pan out to be better than a majority of first round talent. Though it's not common, it makes you wonder what the heck scouts were looking at in their evaluations of those players. Maybe they had character or injury issues. Maybe they had a horrible off season leading up to the draft... there are a multitude of possible reasons, but it just goes to show that even guys who are paid to scout talent, don't always hit the nail on the head either.
Similar to yesterday, I'd like to display the picks in rounds 5 though 7 in the last decade to see how well the Niners have done from then to present.
2001
No 5th round selection
Cedrick Wilson - Wide Receiver - Tennessee - 6th Round
Rashad Holman - Cornerback - Louisville - 6th Round
Menson Holloway - Defensive End - UTEP - 6th Round
Alex Lincoln - Linebacker - Auburn - 7th Round
Eric Johnson - Tight End - Yale - 7th Round
2002
Brandon Doman - Quarterback - BYU - 5th Round
John Shaw - Defensive End - Michigan State - 5th Round
Mark Anelli - Tight End - Wisconsin - 6th Round
Eric Heitmann - Center - Stanford - 7th Round
Kyle Kosier - Tackle - Arizona State - 7th Round
Teddy Gaines - Defensive Back - Tennessee - 7th Round
2003
Aaron Walker - Tight End - Florida - 5th Round
Arnaz Battle - Wide Receiver - Notre Dame - 6th Round
Ken Dorsey - Quarterback - Miami - 7th Round
2004
No 5th round selection
Andy Lee - Punter - Pittsburgh - 6th Round
Keith Lewis - Safety - Oregon - 6th Round
Cody Pickett - Quarterback - Washington - 7th Round
Christian Ferrara - Defensive End - Syracuse - 7th Round
2005
Ronald Fields - Defensive Tackle - Mississippi State - 5th Round
Rasheed Marshall - Wide Receiver - West Virginia - 5th Round
Derrick Johnson - Cornerback - Washington - 6th Round
Daven Holly - Cornerback - Cincinnati - 7th Round
Marcus Maxwell - Wide Receiver - Oregon - 7th Round
Patrick Estes - Tight End - Virginia - 7th Round
Billy Bajema - Tight End - Oklahoma State - 7th Round
2006
Parys Haralson - Outside Linebacker - Tennessee - 5th Round
Delanie Walker - Tight End - C. Missouri State - 6th Round
Marcus Hudson - Safety - NC State - 6th Round
Melvin Oliver - Defensive End - LSU - 6th Round
Vickiel Vaughn - Safety - Arkansas - 7th Round
2007
Tarell Brown - Cornerback - Texas - 5th Round
Thomas Clayton - Running Back - Kansas State - 6th Round
No 7th round selection
2008
5th round selection forfeited for tampering charges
Josh Morgan - Wide Receiver - Virginia Tech - 6th Round
Larry Grant - Linebacker - Ohio State - 7th Round
2009
Scott McKillop - Linebacker - Pittsburgh - 5th Round
Nate Davis - Quarterback - Ball State - 5th Round
Bear Pascoe - Tight End - Fresno State - 6th Round
Curtis Taylor - Safety - LSU - 7th Round
Ricky Jean-Francois - Defensive Tackle - LSU - 7th Round
2010
No 5th round selection
Anthony Dixon - Running Back - Mississippi State - 6th Round
Nate Byham - Tight End - Pittsburgh - 6th Round
Kyle Williams - Wide Receiver - Arizona State - 6th Round
Phillip Adams - Cornerback - SC State - 7th Round
The shortlist of potential 5th rounders
Pat Devlin - Quarterback - Delaware
Richard Sherman - Cornerback - Stanford
Wayne Daniels - Outside Linebacker - TCU
David Carter - Defensive End - UCLA
Derrick Locke - Running Back - Kentucky
The shortlist of potential 6th rounders
Tyrod Taylor - Quarterback - Virginia Tech
Jalil Brown - Cornerback - Colorado
Brian Duncan - Outside Linebacker - Texas Tech
Corbin Bryant - Defensive End - Northwestern
Tori Gurley - Wide Receiver - South Carolina
The shortlist of potential 7th rounders
Ben Chappell - Quarterback - Indiana
Jason Teague - Cornerback - TCU
Jonathan Freeny - Outside Linebacker - Rutgers
Frank Kearse - Defensive End - Alabama A&M
Chad Spann - Running Back - Northern Illinois
Summary: As you notice, it's not a very common trend (with the 49ers at least) that talent is found in these later rounds; although the verdict is still out on the last couple of drafts. Trent Baalke seemed to have done a fairly decent job at finding some late round talent. There wasn't a single 49er that got cut from last years draft. With that said, let's hear some of the later round guys that you all would like to see suiting up in red and gold next season.
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Winning.
I survived Jim Harbaugh week
by return2greatness on Mar 7, 2011 2:10 PM PST reply actions
I'm bi-winning
I win here and I win there. Hopefully the 49ers follow suit
I survived Jim Harbaugh week
by return2greatness on Mar 7, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
In his defense, he had much better stats passing that Michael Vick cold have ever even dreamed of
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
*could have ever even
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
and throws a much better ball
also is very elusive… but certainly not as fast… Doesn’t have the cannon either. I don’t think anybody drafts Tyrod before the 6th
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
He'll be a good back up but I don't see anything more than that.
I believe that he can be better than Troy Smith though.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
That was exactly who I compare him too in one of these threads.
But a little more athletic. I like Tyrod but he’s gotta elevate his game. I hope he pulls it off.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
To name a few....
Noel Devine – has lightning quick acceleration and could contribute right away
Mark Herzlich – before he was diagnosed with cancer, and subseqently beat it, he was one of the best linebackers in college. Late round steal here.
Greg Salas – this wide receiver from Hawaii has good hands and quick cuts. We definitely need to be looking for a WR late ( if not a couple). Terrence tolliver would be a huge pickup as well.
Alex Henery – the best kicker in the draft . Hit a 57 yarder for Nebraska to beat Colorado
Mike Mohamed – gotta rep Cal. Could be good enough to start alongside P-Willy some day.
Austin Pettis – gotta rep Boise State. also has good hands and runs precise routes, any player from Boise State has extremely good work ethic too and he would keep improving
Austin Pettis is great. If we needed a reciever I would say go after him agressively…
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
Interesting Mock Draft scenarios
I would really love to see a beefed up Rodney HUDSON on the starting line. I feel Rodney has a promising NFL caliber arsenal waiting to be unleashed, and with the right coaching could be a pro bowl center for years to come. I believe the 49ers coaching staff needs to form a team of individuals to calibrate the level of consciousness of potential players to determine the amount of truth in a successful NFL career. Creating a Draft Research group with an emphasis of consciousness can better determine chemistry, potential, positive additions to a collective unit. LOOK INTO IT 49ERS!
Rodney hudson is not going to be a late round pick
This thread is for potential fifth, sixth, and seventh rounders. Rodney Hudson is a potential second-rounder.
Jalil Brown in the 6th round? No way he's there
He was great at Senior Bowl Practices and his initial 10-yard explosion off the line was timed faster than that of Patrick Peterson.
Jalil – 1.48
Peterson 1.49
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.NT Kendrick Ellis 5.S Tyler Sash 6.WR Lester Jean 6.RB Chad Spann 7.OLB Jamari Lattimore 7.Kicker 7.CB Richard Sherman
WR run more than 10 yard routes 40 > 10 for cb
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
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I think you're trolling, but in case you didn't know
the only instance WRs run straight down field, 40 yards, are on Hail Marys. The 10-yard dash/split shows how fast a player gets up to full speed. And I shouldn’t have to explain to you why that’s important.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.G Ben Ijalana 3.CB Jalil Brown 4.NT Kendrick Ellis 4.CB Kendric Burney 5.S Tyler Sash 6.WR Lester Jean 6.RB Chad Spann 7.OLB Jamari Lattimore 7.Kicker 7.CB Richard Sherman
More important to do with hip fluidity.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3
Couldn't be more wrong.
WR’s run straight down-field quite frequently on clear out routes. They aren’t designed to get the ball on that play, just meant to take the CB out of it.
But if the guys upstairs see that your CB can’t keep up.. they’ll be dialing up the deep ball.
For every deep ball that is thrown.. there are 8-9 run on 3rd or 4th options to see where you are weak in the secondary.
2009 late rounds were rich in ‘is our future’ candidates. Nate Davis AND Bear Pascoe. Niners Nation cult heroes the pair of them. And of course RJF, who actually MIGHT be our future. What a draft. Go go Scotty M. One last time everyone? NATE DAVIS WAS OUR SHAWN HILL. Or something like that.
In the throes of a Jim Harbaugh man crush since 1/7/11
Not quite...
More like Nate Davis was our SWAN HILL.
by David Fucillo on Mar 7, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Kicker?
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
Fifth Round Quarterbacks:
I would love to see the 49ers take 2 quarterbacks with their first three picks, trade down or not, but if they were to take a quarterback in the lower first (trading down) or the second round, I wouldn’t mind a bit drafting Pat Devlin and seeing if he can fit into Harbaugh’s offense.
If I were to pick a quarterback to be a late round steal I’d go with Devlin, He doesn’t have a cannon like former 5th round pick Nate Davis, but the accuracy is there. Cannon = Bust more times than accuracy does.
Definitely a project but I all for it. Especially for a fifth round pick.
Here’s an interesting trivia question: How many fifth round NFL draft picks have gone on to be consistent starters in the NFL? No Fifth round pick has won the Super Bowl as far as I know and I can’t think of one who has been a starter.
Sooner or later the fifth round has to give up a champion.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
Why do you want inferior talent on our team?
None of these QBs is better than Jimmy Clausen for gods sake.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
none of who? I only mentioned one
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
NONE OF THEM
How hard is that to read? Not a single QB in this draft is right now at the same level as sorry ass Jimmy Clausen coming into the draft last year. NONE
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Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Locker and Kaep have high ceilings
But not 1 QB in this draft has even the same baseline as Clausen.
We’re not going to be able to put a quality NFL player on the field for at least 2 seasons
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Jimmy Clausen?
N
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If I remember right Clausen got passed over because he’s an idiot or too cocky for the NFL, which must be pretty out there by my calculations.
So far he hasn’t done anything to prove he’s anything more than a snotty punk, so why you want to devalue the possible talents of potential PROFESSIONALS based on the attitude of a qualified childish punk?
Just because you can throw a football doesn’t mean you’re going to be a good NFL quarterback.
Let’s not forget our hometown hero Joe Montana, who by your judgement probably would have come into this draft considered less talented than Jimmy “punk ass” Clausen. Alot of guys think he had “a noodle arm” to this day.
You need to check yourself.
how hard is that to read
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
Um Montana was actually talented
Something most of these guys are not
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
There is not a Bradford
Montana, Steve Young, Rodgers, Rapistberger, Vick, Manning or even Rich Gannon or Alex Smith in this whole bunch.
Its a pathetic class for finding a franchise caliber starter.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Might get a Drew Bledsoe
7 or 8 years down the road in Mallett (but dumber and less mobile).
Matt Cassel from Gabbert after 3-5 years
Devlin could end up a little better than Bulger 6 or 7 years down the road
Ponder will be a career backup with a ceiling as high as a dumbed down Ryan Fitzpatrick.
McElroy could develop into a smarter Trent Dilfer after 6 or 7 years
Newton will probably do something stupid and end up out of the league
Stanzi’s ceiling is Elvis Grbac. Couple games with flashes here and there but career backup
Dalton AT BEST career backup – probably a practice squad guy for a few years
Tyrod Taylor could be a better version of Troy Smith.
The only 2 who’s ceilings are worth risking anything but a late flyer on are Locker and Kaep who are high risk, high reward. One of them will likely end up a perpetual starter and the other will bust completely.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
come on McElroy is already smarter than Dilfer lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 7, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
third rounder
Weak arm, thin body, not the fastest. Montana had great feet and was clutch. With the way we over-analyze today he would be a sixth rounder
by mcwagner on Mar 7, 2011 5:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Weak arm. Not just accurate, incredibly accurate.
Understood how to use touch and timing together. Would throw a receiver open to spots where only the receiver could make a play. Clutch. LEADER. Montana would probably be the 1st QB off the board in this era of having tape of everything he’s done.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
Montana would light up the combine passing drills
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Was that in his scouting report?
Was that the consensus around the league, when he was passed over?
Or did Walsh have an inkling and get lucky.
Harbaughcalypse Now
Everyone though Montana was a 6th rounder except Walsh.
According to Walsh’s interview.
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by manraj7 on Mar 7, 2011 7:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
you are so wrong
NFL scouts didn’t have any expectation of Montana succeeding in the NFL much less conquering it. The foresight Walsh had concerning Montana is legendary.
Phil Simms, who was a pretty good quarterback, is one of the four selected before him, but Joe was selected in the third round, scouted to have mediocre talent.
I don’t know why you think you can judge future talent as well as you seem to be able to judge hindsight talent, but you can’t. No one can.
Your assumption no starters can come from this “pathetic class” is way off.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
I'm not always right dude
But more often than not I am. Somebody nailed me on Reggie Bush the other day. And they would have gotten me on Vince Young too until I found out his wonderlic score.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
this is correct. read "the genius", bio of Walsh (I sense you have)
Montana was thought to have something of a weak arm by NFL standards, and he was perceived as skinny/frail. lots of character, definitely an upside, but he was nobody’s lock to be an NFL starter… except Bill Walsh.
Ok, I reread that...
Wow, I may have went a little thick there, but “how hard is that to read” was uncalled for. It is like saying that I don’t know how to read.
If you were saying no quarterback in this draft is worth a pick, that’s fine but don’t expect me to assume that’s what you mean by “none of these guys” in a response to my post about one specific guy.
Anyway, the fact is we need two quarterbacks at the very least, and there isn’t alot to choose from. But you can’t discount every quarterback in the draft because he doesn’t fit the conventional mold.
If everyone did that we wouldn’t have Brees (too short) or Tom Brady who was drafted at the bottom of a mediocre quarterback draft class.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
I was putting for emphasis. And yah I came off dickish with it... Sorry - You're a good poster and don't deserve that. Despite any philosophical differences we have.
This is my point though, if we are going to try to draft a QB in this draft it should be for EITHER a franchise player or a back-up. Not a tweener.
Draft a long-term but solid backup, (like McElroy), LATE but there are no guys in this draft that I honestly believe are guaranteed starters
Gabbert might be… I could be wrong on him but I see Matt Cassel. Solid but not spectacular. About the same as Clausen.
The only guys that scream potential to me have the complete boom or complete bust risk.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Anyway my comment was simply...
We need 2 quarterbacks, and, Devlin may be worth a fifth round pick based on his accuracy.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
Oh jesus dude now I feel like an asshole! LOL
I read FIRST round Quarterbacks as your headline earlier
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Then I saw QB with 2 of our first 3 picks
and I was like… You wanna spend either rd 1 or 2 on Devlin!?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
You're not an asshole
I think since we need three, we have zero, and there is bust potential for every quarterback to ever come out of the draft, we might mitigate some of the bust potential by selecting two medium level draft talents (2nd round picks).
My logic is there is 1/2 the chance you come up empty. I agree there is a good chance we get nothing with two valuable picks but we have to take a chance, we have no one right now.
My other idea is take one high (2nd roundish) and see if we can get Devlin in the 5th, I have a feeling this guy could work the west coast style and keep up with the NFL once he gets in to it. I don’t think it’s a matter of 5 or 6 years, I give him 2 years to catch on.
Meanwhile we have to get a good free agent, no question. Alex could stay, but I wouldn’t want to have him be our only option again. You have to have someone better than Alex has been. Alex can compete with that guy, whoever it is.
I don’t think Alex should stay, he doesn’t have good chemistry with Crabtree, and he doesn’t have a good repetoire with the fans. He will do much better elsewhere. Maybe he can play for the Dolphins. Just please not the Seahawks. I couldn’t watch that kind of circus twice a year.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Yes, I did just quote myself
That's an Idea!
Would love to have him and Kaep challenge each other for the starting QB position. Maybe Palmer comes in for two years, and these kids learn from him, and tear it up like Rodgers did (or Steve Young) for that matter.
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by wellnesscoach on Mar 7, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
in 2008 ...
the packers spent a 2nd round pick on Brian Brohm. And later spent a 7th on Matt Flynn. Any ideas who turned out to better? I like the idea of drafting two in this years draft.
by wtlichens on Mar 7, 2011 4:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions
But the Brian Brohm thing...
That’s a hell of a wasted 2nd rounder for a rebuilding team when real talent is still on the board.
If we are using a 2nd rounder on a QB it shouldn’t be anybody but Locker or Kaep. At least if they bust we gambled on hitting it big.
Gabbert - late 1st early 2nd
Locker and Kaep - Early to mid 2nd
Mallett, Devlin, Ponder, Newton - Late 3rd – Early 5th
Stanzi, Dalton, McElroy – mid 5th – mid 6th
Everybody else 6th – UDFA
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 7, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Ponder????? 3rd? doubtful
Ponder is probably the most NFL ready kid int he class. Perfect for the WCO, he could by mid season be a starter. Mallet could do the same if not for his off-field issues and lack of maturity. But Mallet could be special, he reminds me of Rivers with better physical tools.
by darkhorse_2000 on Mar 8, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
I understand that I get one from column A (Round 5), two from column B (Round 6), and two from column C (Round 7) ...
In the 5th round, I’ll have RB Derrick Locke from Kentucky;
In the 6th round, I’ll have DE Cliff Mathews from South Carolina and K Alex Henery from Nebraska.
In the 7th round, I’ll have FS Chris Culliver from South Carolina and CB Richard Sherman from Stanford.
Oh, and I’d like a glass of ice water with that.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Mar 7, 2011 6:44 PM PST reply actions
wow!....
I didn’t realize that tarrel brown was a fifth round pick . now I really hope that peterson drops to us at number 7 …. ha
by LongTimeReader1stTimeBlogger on Mar 7, 2011 6:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
How did Pat Devlin fall so low?? I thought he was predicted as 2nd-3rd rounder
Just wondering..
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
East - West Shrine game he didn't do too well.
There were a few glaring problems that need to be corrected.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
pat devlin and scott tolzien
as our two QB’s from this draft, and both late round picks. the drop off from 1st/2nd round to these guys is nowhere near as large as the hype machine will have you believe, and the hype machine is going bananas right now because there is nothing else to talk about. The devil always finds work for idle minds to do. Essentially, this is a commodities market and gabbert, newtown, locker and mallett are seriously inflated. Kaepernick is the only one worth consideration inside the top 2 rounds.
agree on locker and gabbert
like mallett but sort of concerned about the rumors
ponder, stanzi, and kaepernick my favorite
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Mar 7, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
just wanted to point out that
larry grant has more sacks than kentwan balmer. lol
if 5 more players are added to the roster, I think these later round picks will be more important.
late round picks are good.
even players who do not get drafted, there always seems to be some starters on a team who never get drafted.
7nth round prospects not mentioned
ricardo lockette wr 4.34 6’2 small school prospect fort valley state
mario fannin rb 231lbs 4.37lbs auburn
both would add some speeeeeeed
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I like C. Spann
He’s on twitter too!
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by SportsChicken on Mar 7, 2011 11:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I must admit
The Niners are finding the rate gems in the late rounds I am hoping they keep up the good work.
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