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2011 NFL Draft: Dave-Te Thomas On Colin Kaepernick As A "Taller Version Of Aaron Rodgers"

Last month after Drew put together his 50 in 50 scouting report on Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick, I received an email from Dave-Te' Thomas, the official researcher and draft biographer for the NFL. He's worked for and with the NFL since 1968 and has pretty solid background when it comes to draft analysis and general knowledge. He works with Scouting Services, Inc. and has worked as editor of "The Poor Man's Guide to the NFL Draft" and now "The NFL Draft Report." If you have a minute, check out this interview last year with Canal Street Chronicles.

I'm bringing him up now because a while back I had mentioned an individual referring to Kaepernick as a taller Aaron Rodgers. Dave-Te' was the person who made that reference to me and I thought not was as good a time as any to pass along his thoughts on Kaepernick, courtesy of his service's incredibly thorough scouting report on the Nevada QB. In our discussions about Kaepernick, Thomas summed him as follows:

To me, he's another Aaron Rodgers on the field. With his mobility & off-field character, I see a lot of Roger Staubach in him. He's what I call a blue moon QB- only comes along once in a blue moon. Folks tortured me when I had Rodgers as my #1 prospect years ago & got on my hynie over Josh Freeman a few years back, but I'm not a draft analyst & judge guys on production & where I feel they will be three years down the road.

After the jump, I've got some snippets from his scouting report on Kaepernick. Obviously this is just one person's report, and even though Thomas did well with his Aaron Rodgers scouting report a few years back, Kaepernick skeptics are welcome to retain their skepticism. I simply like the idea of a fairly thorough work-up on Kaepernick as the 49ers consider all the quarterbacks out there. If the 49ers end up with another quarterback I'll work with Dave-Te' to get the appropriate scouting reports.

And in looking over these comments, the one positive that I think most people can take out of this is that if the 49ers were to draft Kaepernick, they're at least getting a player who would appear ready and willing to put in the necessary work to take his game to the highest level. It remains to be seen if he'll reach that level, but it's a step in the right direction.

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SUMMARY

This four-year starter is the best athlete in the 2011 draft at his position. He has also become a premier decision maker and elite passer, all through lots of extra hours in the film room and on the practice field. He plays in the "pistol" offense, which is not utilized in the NFL and will have to show in post-season all star games that he will be comfortable operating under center and getting to his pass set point with no issues.

He has all the intangibles you look for in a pro quarterback - size, strength and incredible speed. He is a take-charge type who is a confident leader. He is also a tough runner whose mobility in the pocket and running with the ball forces the defense to remain honest. He is very effective throwing on the move, but is also quick with his feet setting up to throw from the pocket.

He will throw across the body with a high completion rate and has exceptional arm strength, demonstrated with the zip he places in the short-to-intermediate passing areas. He can also plant his foot and step into his throws to fire off the deep outs. With his outstanding judgment and vision, he can take apart a defense with either his arm or feet.

Kaepernick will improvise throws to make the completion and shows the solid mechanics to hit his targets in stride. He is a solid touch passer who will never panic under duress (see 2010 Boise State game). He hits moving targets with very good velocity and has good communication and vision which lets his receivers get under his long throws with minimal adjustments.

With that presence in the pocket, he has the ability to look off the defender, using all of his receivers. His best asset might be his accuracy on the move, making him an inviting target for a West Coast scheme looking for athleticism from their quarterback.

In looking through the scouting report, Kaepernick's biggest weakness was in his release, which received some criticism here and across the Internet. The report gives Kaepernick a 7.1 out of 10. In discussing this weakness, Thomas offset the criticisms with some positives:

Kaepernick has worked hard to erase a bit of a wind-up that he sometimes had in the past when trying to fire the ball from a low angle. Summer camps (Manning) has seen him develop a highly effective and quick release (high), along with an ability to improvise on the run. He throws across the body effectively and even on the occasions where he will sidearm the ball, he puts good zip behind his tosses. When he throws from overhead and not shoot from the hip, he is very capable of getting the ball out with outstanding velocity and touch.

He has shown marked improvement in making his delivery more compact and when that ball comes off his fingers, you can actually hear the "buzz" behind his throws before it explodes into his target's chest. Even when he fires with a "big circle," he gets the ball out quickly, thanks to his ability to anticipate his receivers on the route's progression. More patient coaching will help him to prevent dropping the ball in his motion, but you can see he has the mechanics for a smooth and compact delivery.

It's not surprising that Kaepernick's scrambling and general athletic ability get the highest marks in the scouting report, getting 8.7's (out of 10). He received high marks for his arm strength and the various "intangibles" like work ethic, character, and general competitive nature. His accuracy doesn't get the highest of marks (7.3), but it sounds like he improved in 2010:

Prior to 2010, [accuracy] was sort of an enigmatic category for Kaepernick. Being utilized in the team's "pistol-type" offense is not suited for a player of his arm strength or athletic caliber, resulting in his average pass completion percentage, until his senior year. Allowed more say in the play-calling, he showed the ability to change up speed on his short tosses to make the completion, thanks to solid consistency and timing (see 2010 Colorado State, California, UNLV and Louisiana Tech games).

On the long throws, he flashes touch and accuracy, even though he was "stuck" in an offense that was more designed for the short-to-intermediate passing game. He is a highly effective short-to-medium range passer when given protection, as he can generate the touch and velocity, when needed. The coaches don't let him uncork the long ball as much as a QB with his arm strength needs to do, but on those occasions, you can see that he can throw the deep ball with optimum air, velocity and timing. The thing you saw in his 2010 games was his ability to "smoke it" into the cornerback/safety voids. With his improved touch, he is perfectly capable of giving his receivers space and time to adjust.

Finally, Dave-Te' looked at Kaepernick's ability to read defenses (8.0 rating):

Kaepernick is a classic touch passer who has very good vision and instincts, evident by the way he can instantly read and understand the defensive coverage (see 2010 Colorado State, California, Utah State, Idaho and Boise State games). He is an instinctive player and good decision maker. He is not the type that needs to force the issue in order to make the pass play, as he will simply throw the ball away rather than try to create something out of nothing. He has had just 1.86% of his passes intercepted during his career (best among active QBs with 400 pass attempts). While he is a quick decision maker, he is also the type that plays within the offense's framework. It is rare to see him force the ball into coverage. He has that instinctive nature you look for in a successful quarterback - he knows when to throw and when to run. With just 22 sacks in his last seasons, it shows that he is not the type to hold on to the ball too long.

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The scouting report gives a Donovan McNabb comparison when looking at pro QBs:

DONOVAN McNABB-Washington-Kaepernick is an athletic "stallion" in the mold of McNabb during Donovan’s prime. He needs to add some bulk to his frame to absorb punishment at the next level and undergo some mechanical refinement (wind-up and low release point), but I challenge anyone to find another quarterback eligible for the 2011 draft that has his arm strength, running ability and quickness. His arm rivals that of Joe Flacco’s, his ability to avoid the rush reminds me of Vince Young and his swagger is favorably compared to that of Matt Ryan’s. He’s just not utilized to his best assets by the Nevada coaches, as he should be in a pro-style offense, rather than be confined to a "pistol" type of scheme.

by David Fucillo on Apr 22, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess you could compare him to McNabb without 99% of the dumb passes

I’ll stick with my comparison that his absolute ceiling is Elwayish. Will he ever even approach that? Answer murky… Ask again later.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 22, 2011 6:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty exciting thought that he may be around for the Niners to grab. Where does the majority of mocks have CK going? Latter first round? Second round?

Get it sorted NFL and NFLPA. My Sunday evenings are special to me.

by LondonNiner on Apr 22, 2011 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

problem with QBs

they’re unique and it only takes one team.

Pretty much all of the top 7 QBs have a chance of going in the first round. ( Newton, Gabbert then the other 5 in some random order Ponder, Mallet, Locker, Dalton, Kaepernick )

I think there’s a good chance 2 are available at 45, but which 2?

by whistlingmountain on Apr 22, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Majority I have seen..

and “trusted” have him as a mid to late second rounder or maybe high their. Maybe as high as our 45 to around the 65-75 range. Th

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Apr 23, 2011 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think if we want Kaepernick

We have to give up a 4th to move our second pick up. There will be a run on QB’s in the top of the second round, and we are at the back of the line.

by Ougadas on Apr 22, 2011 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

My thought exactly

Gonna have to move back into first round to get him. I would give a forth n a heartbeat

by mrb24 on Apr 22, 2011 4:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would bet the Colts jump into the early 2nd

To snatch him up. Just a gut feeling I have

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Apr 22, 2011 4:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or if they might just take him in the first

The Colts like smaller cerebral tackles and if there is a guy they like in the later rounds they might pull the trigger in the first.

by Ougadas on Apr 22, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

With a QB like Mannning

and a FO like the COLTS they have to think about the FUTURE, and their future has got to be Kapernick. (SP)

I think our FO has got to resemble the COLTS FO.

I dont want to go through another losing another losing season

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Apr 22, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand where you coming from

BUT, they need to keep the Manning tradition going

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Apr 22, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

My old man is a Colts fan so I know their players about as good as I know the Niners.

One thing Polian does very well is draft in the middle to lower rounds.

He finds guys that aren’t physical phenoms or top notch talents but can play a very defined role in the system his coaches are running.

Consistently finding solid guys in the 4th does just as much for the long term success of your team as picking the right talent in the 1st.

by Ougadas on Apr 23, 2011 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

when i read that he attended the Manning camp. the colts r gonna take this kid and would that be a bitch.

by biggie900 on Apr 24, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice write-up Fooch, Looks like David-Te Thomas has the history to back up his evaluation.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Apr 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

exactly

Obviously anybody can be wrong when it comes to prospects (particularly QB prospects), but given his history, I think it’s an evaluation people should take at least a little bit serious.

by David Fucillo on Apr 22, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

So much of becoming a good QB is having the tactician mentor and the ability/motivation to learn it

I really feel like whoever they end up with has a floor that will be right about where Alex Smith’s ceiling has been the past few years just based on easier reads and better scheming to pick apart defensive weaknesses.

by whistlingmountain on Apr 22, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take so little from hearing about someone's successful comparions/projections

without the balance of their misses.

really wish there was just a site that contained everyone’s top 10 prospects at every position, every year, so when I hear some guy say he nailed these X guys 3 years ago and he’s projecting players Y to be successful I can go look at the site and go, oh , hey, you’re 5 for 30.

by whistlingmountain on Apr 22, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

seems to not think any of the QBs are worth a 1st rounder, at the same time says

next year’s class is very suspect outside of Luck

feels like he has a trade-back mentality, as he “passes” on many talents in the first round, for safer/better value in the 2nd, but then says “I much rather have one stud at 12 that two good guys later” kind of a weird combination of thoughts.

doesn’t like Amukamara as a corner, hates aldon smith, doesn’t like any of the players who have any off-field red-flags

summarizing his thoughts on other QBs

Gabbert is a robot, would be drafted behind Clausen
Ponder’s arm is suspect, reminds him of pennington
Dalton is a west coast only guy that shouldn’t go in the first 2 rounds, throws into coverage and doesn’t have the zip on the deep ball ( but hedged his thought by saying he does have the zip on crossing routes, felt like he was implying the raw ability could be there if molded )
If he drafted Mallett would “lock the medicine cabinet”
Hates McElroy for anything, thinks Taylor, Sanzi better projects

likes the depth of the OL class

loves Dowling(WTF?) and Burton in the 2nd round for CBs
( I think Dowling is a Rumph Clone )

by whistlingmountain on Apr 22, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always like when someone else champions I pick I like

Best part is the 49ers have actually shown Kaepernick some interest. I still think his game is closer to Harbaugh’s than an Aaron Rodgers. I think there is always going to be a lack of fluidity in Kaepernick’s game (part that reminds me of Harbaugh) but he should be effective.

by bignerd on Apr 22, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

49ers will look at anybody if you say they are Rodger-esque. Have you seen Londonniner throw? Not interested? He may be the next Aaron Rodgers… Well doesn’t hurt to just draft him

by mcwagner on Apr 22, 2011 3:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Don't have time now, but have a strategy wherein we get one each from the following groups in the first two rounds ...

QB — Ponder (maybe) / Dalton / Kaepernick
CB — Amukamara / Dowling
OLB/DE — Quinn / Sheard / Houston / Reed

Will write it up and post sometime over the weekend.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Apr 22, 2011 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I HOPE that LOCKER is still around when we pick around the 2nd

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Apr 22, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I want him

Enough said. Let him develop. Next year give him competition and love from the fan base to give him confidence and we got our Michael Vick without the dog killing.

by 49erfannm on Apr 23, 2011 12:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

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